LEWIS THE CONQUEROR! - Crusader Kings 3 w/The Armchair Admirals - 07/09/20

[@_rainsferd927]

just imagine, Its the summer of 894 AD, you're the pope about to carry out one of the largest crusades in history and you receive a letter stating that Swedish Vikings have successfully conquered Jerusalem then allied with the Muslim nations to defended it against your armies. Praise Odin. lolz

[@archerchance6214]

i realize Im pretty off topic but do anyone know of a good site to watch newly released series online ?

[@KuueenKumi]

"That alliance wasn't in la biblia!"

[@shynarcissist]

I love Rythian in this and I love the play between him and Spiff. They work really well together.

[@JDrewism]

At the same time, it is amazing seeing the utter lack of cooperation between those in Britain....this game is so much fun

[@sheldomore]

Gg

[@KuueenKumi]

I love Spiff, Rythian and Daltos together. They're like the three chillest CK3 gamers (unless Spiff kills Daltos's wife), and they're pretty positive about things. Plus they actually try to help others.

[@lakersouthpaw]

I get Duncan was a little salty about Lewis just taking half of England, but he acted so stupidly and stubborn just because of something that happened hours before. Lewis and Rythian were right. He has literally the entire world he can raid, but he's choosing to be salty and hold grudges instead of actually playing together like they planned.

[@cavalyn]

Pretty much how Duncan plays sadly. I don't dislike the guy, but he often comes in with "one plan" and then spits his dummy out when it doesn't go as he wants it to. You can kind of see it in TTT as well (even though I like him there) where he will absolutely use the same weapon (prop exploder or launcher) for, like, 100 rounds in a row, then get salty when people call him out on it. He's one-dimensional when it comes to strategy.

[@nakenmil]

@@cavalyn he's always been like that, there's been jokes about him being a "tryhard" (lol, there's a throwback) since like the Tekkit days.

[@johntan4997]

Yup, that's Duncan. He is the opposite of "Flexible Leader"

[@billmarley7767]

@@cavalyn tell me why Duncan and Daltos be some of the saltiest and most whiney members of the yogscast. Its cool its fun to watch but dam id hate to have those guys be my friends

[@jyquin5012]

The thing I find more annoying about it is just that Lewis entered the original war with England to help Duncan. And immediately after taking the land Lewis told him he could go to war with Lewis for the land and Lewis would surrender it over to him. But instead of working together like they agreed to Duncan refused to take Lewis up on his offer, then sat in mostly silence about it for half the stream, then warred Lewis for the wrong piece of land because he didn't actually have a claim on the land he said he wanted. And the only reason Daltos was on Duncan's side is because Daltos did almost the exact same thing.

[@cyan_2877]

In literally every 4 x game duncan is ALWAYS the one who gets the most prickly about his borders and never changes his course of action

[@Troglodytarum]

Duncan "It's the game's fault!" Jones strikes again.

[@jekanyika]

It's exasperating.

[@Reason300]

Can't even give a proper excuse lmao

[@kyletenorio8541]

Watching Lewis learn succession is a rollercoaster of emotions. Good job Lewis!

[@sir__crow2024]

“It’ll be successified by his evil brother.” Oh Lewis, haven’t you heard? Spiff is the evil brother

[@DavidRokon]

"Spiff can't break the game that bad"

[@edholmes8726]

It’s hard to break such a perfectly balanced game...

[@Duskifer]

Frustration is a little understandable but the whole point of this game is largely to manage inheritance. Without that as a challenge the game quickly becomes rather trivial, so it is tempting for me to ask that Duncan in this case "git gud".

[@Blisterdude123]

Duncan's most consistent trait in all his years in the Yogs is to blame the game when he does things wrong. At this point, I doubt that's likely to change.

[@sethnewlin510]

Yeah he was insufferable the second half of this video. If he was that salty he should have just left after he threw the game attacking Lewis out of spite for something Lewis didn't even realize upset Duncan

[@theformalmooshroom9147]

I would have loved to see him get kicked. I mean can they not find better people to play with than Daltos and old saltsman

[@panner11]

I think the problem is the CK series requires the most research and knowledge of mechanics to play properly of just about any game, and those are two things Duncan refuses to do in any game. In his mind, the game is broken because it doesn't let him do what he wants.

[@lukecording8726]

Duncan turns into a spoiled child when he does understand something or have something go his way then ends up ruining other parts of the game for people

[@panner11]

Yeah unfortunately he did the same thing again on the Christmas ck3 stream... He wanted to play fractured world himself but picked a huge kingdom which didn't work, then when they all decided to play as a single count, he played a huge duchy and when he was forced to play on as a count, he made no progress and started playing a different game. I just hate how he does things that are obviously his fault and people even warn him beforehand not to do it, but he always goes ahead with it and blames it on something else later.

[@MsPysoul]

its funny how lewis has no idea what to do when he just conquered the south of england lol

[@KnownAsCesar]

As a Dane, Rythian mimicking Danish sounds was terrifying... and absolutely accurate.

[@MrOsteost]

Do you know when he did that?

[@KnownAsCesar]

@@MrOsteost hmm, can't remember exactly, but definitely in the first half. Maybe around the 2-3 hour mark? It's right after Rythian assembles Denmark.

[@MrOsteost]

@@KnownAsCesar Thank you, that narrows it down a great deal

[@edwardsmall3680]

@@MrOsteost 1:20:20 I just got there :)

[@MrOsteost]

@@edwardsmall3680 Better late than never in getting an answer. Thank you for that.

[@wloffblizz]

"The inheritance is complicated and requires so much effort!" they say while talking about a game that's literally an inheritance management simulator.

[@garrethatch5362]

Duncan starts losing a war, "I think theres a bug here". Come on Duncan, you're a vassal under Lewis in real life, become his vassal in the virtual world too!

[@WrightsFragment]

I was thinking the exact same thing haha

[@justoneman13]

Duncan and Daltos didn't quite ruin this for me but the tantruming was super-irritating.

[@drakhoon]

yesssss i want them to play this so much it gets its own channel, and then i want them to start using mods :D

[@finleyjennings6051]

I think they considered putting this on the civ channel (that's why it's late)

[@kyletenorio8541]

I've had the same problem as Duncan with changing my empire from tribal to feudal. Failed the first time but second time, my solution was only upgrading my capital holding. Giving my vassals (kings at this point) the de jure vassals under them and for the next hundred years play high diplo emperor's and manage it that way. It's pretty fun and that's what makes the game unique I think. The gameplay switch up.

[@CaptainInvisible1]

This game should have been a no holds barred campaign. Just a nice fun brawl between friends. The only players who got the "Lets have fun and work together" were Spiff and Rythian, who sounds like they were having mush more fun than Duncan and Lewis's childish squabble over an area big enough for three Kingdoms.

[@Mathew_01]

Duncan "Blame the Game" Jones is back in action.

[@Jakers457]

Rythian likes the small things

[@guncore]

Is it just me or does Lewis really look like Alfred the Great in 'The Last Kingdom'?

[@Emperorhirohito19272]

1:25:40 lol Lewis by complete luck actually fixes his succession so he doesn’t lose everything. Then for some reason thinks he’s fucked it up?

[@Dave_L913]

I don't think I've ever heard Rythian have so much fun.

[@Lutoxias]

Duncan complains that he cant create a duchy that he literally already owns classic

[@ToxicToothpick]

Spiff already seems to know everything that can happen and how to make it happen or not happen on a whim.

[@Force2reckonVods]

He *did* do a massive stream in order to break the game to cap his stats. Don't know how that went as I haven't watched it but, ya know.

[@dylanconfer1116]

@@Force2reckonVods that was actually just a game like this, with the bois. I didn't watch the whole thing mind you, but the title is misleading as it's not what you think it is

[@Force2reckonVods]

@@dylanconfer1116 Well if it's a game with the lads I might have to go and watch it, only reason I haven't watched it is, as with many people, I don't find Spiff all too entertaining, though moreso than most, on his own in a livestream format. Could be fun though if he's got some lads with him. I still wanna get a big ol game together someday.

[@maggintons]

Spiff started off playing Ck2 Yknow

[@cavalyn]

Yeah, but to be fair to Spiff he's a good egg in helping the others and never tries to squash them like some people would. Usually keeps his machinations from harming them ;)

[@thedutchguy6732]

Yess I've been waiting for this

[@Kapuzenkamel]

me too!

[@zoeymax]

im not the only one who thinks duncan acts like a spoilt brat when something doesnt go his way, right? like duncan literally did have everything else to raid, instead he raided his ally, declared war when lewis defended himself, had his heir killed, and refused to even talk about compromise

[@edholmes8726]

I love the contrast between team spiffian and the other three!

[@Troglodytarum]

I want everyone to know that daltos is not an accurate representation of what a normal american is.

[@simonsonlyfan8600]

Of course not, he's the pinnacle of what an american should be

[@daz184o_o6]

@@simonsonlyfan8600 he is peak American

[@AlmonMalk]

As a Texan I disagree

[@spongmongler6760]

you'd better hope not...

[@theformalmooshroom9147]

Thank god for that because he's the biggest fucking pain in the hole

[@KuueenKumi]

Another CK3 stream I haven't yet seen? This is gonna be great, love this group

[@Beredaman08]

The thing I had to get used to regarding being attacked and wars was that my vassals were already helping me in wars, just not directly, since levies are a portion of their men that they have agreed to give to me, after all, and I do have some degree of control over that via the feudal contracts. The other main element, of course, is marrying off kids for alliances and calling those individuals to war (though I like to keep a couple for marrying off to vassals to keep alliances there to prevent the most powerful from forming factions against me).

[@wilfchapman-gandy8120]

Ah yes, Daltos has opinions on this game.

[@leek_w_]

"You can't torture a child, but you can decapitate them"

[@mrsullied]

Rythian "speaking" Danish was glorious

[@JamesW6179]

Why didn't they just make one nation and each be dukes?!

[@theformalmooshroom9147]

Rythian is so right about the inviting Daltos part

[@narsil1984]

Bit hard to listen to Duncan complain... Ive lol'ed frequently in my first ever long CK campaign, because the things I do are so fucking medieval... this is what I wanted in CK2 and never got, now it works and isnt that hard. It's just important to get 1 big title early on that your main heir keeps, then conquer enough holdings for yourself and distribute new ones to him. My first 3 rulers quickly got to their domain limit of 6-8, and I made my oldest son always hold at least 1 full dutchy or equivalent in counties. Sure, it lead to alot of border gore and Ive then had more than 1 war against sibblings to gain the ancestral seat of my house back. But since my main heir was always the best of the lot, with 5-6 domains before the succession, he was usually fine when becoming king. I struggled on the one that was 7 when becoming king, cuz too many vassals hated him. Nifty trick: when my old king was 70+ and I figured, he'd really kick the bucket any minute, I stole several titles from vassals and that made all the unhappy ones rise. But being in power for so long and having 4-5 allies, that rebellion was crushed and all the unhappy nobles were in prison when my 7 year old son became king. I released them one by one (or disowned them) as my new king got older and able to impress them (short rule penalty aswell as child penatly gone, it helped). Some of the former prisoners became my young kid's best friends later :P => medieval!

[@sandergaasbeek5978]

I think it'd be fun if Spiff starts as like a mongol horde in the east and the rest in the west, having to prepare for Spiff's inevitable exploit onslaught once he crosses the map

[@alfernee]

I felt Daltos greif, at 1:28:00 when he have told Duncan the same thing 4 times, and he kept about it, not listening

[@jakobknudsen6864]

Best reaction to being deposed by a catholic crusade: Daltos: "Speaking of heathen Catholics..." Lewis: "Thanks for watching!"

[@milesdavis607]

Within 30 seconds Daltos asks if guys can stream shirtless. I don't think I've met someone more like a USA citizen than Daltos is... and I live in NY.

[@priamneville5899]

It's like being around brits has driven him to be more and more american...

[@finleyjennings6051]

@@priamneville5899 he has been forced to become the stereotype everyone believes him to be

[@replicasex]

He's from NJ and is Italian-American, being shirtless is his god given guido right.

[@SpaceMissile]

1:02:57 - I like how lewis is stuck on the "alternative taste" notification for 52 days. I am just pretending that his king was just in his bedchambers self-pleasuring for nearly two months.

[@wrathisme4693]

*The most miserable thing about watching any Yogscast live stream is Daltos mindlessly yet confidently just saying shit that is absolutely not true.* I want to leave that comment there because I'm sure most people will know what I'm talking about, but I'm compelled to give an example out of only frustration. I'm not even an hour in and already there's been two or three things, the one that inspired this comment was him saying that George RR Martin was just some kid from New Jersey who started writing a fantasy book about a European war. George RR Martin was an accomplished sci-fi writer for decades before he even started on game of thrones, and the Yorks and lancasters thing is all purely referential surface dressing with none of the events of the books matching up to any of the events in history with only the most vague connections that could also be true for nation/ruling families at the time

[@River.s.]

39:43 Pretty on Brand for Lewis

[@nerdletter3773]

Lewis: “I wanna fight Scotland or something” Me, knowing Scottish history: *wheeze*

[@Thoran666]

4:22:15 The moment Daltos realized he fucked up big time. Yeah, turns out sleep isn't overrated

[@kamikazesopp]

Watching Lewis capitulate all those wars was mind-melting. It was almost as frustrating as him neglecting to upgrade his towns and cities despite having roughly 2k gold. Great stream. 😂

[@voided_sun]

First of all, sitting on some money is always the right move, cause you never know when someone decides to be cheeky and tries to conquer/subjugate your entire kingdom in a single war. Secondly, he didn't even own cities, he owned baronies/castles. Thirdly even if he did upgrade his own land, his possessions were going to get carved up amongst his children, so why bother? Fourthly, he couldnt win those wars that he surrendered without hiring mercs costing at least 500 gold. That isn't worth the few little counties they wanted. The only war that mattered is the civil war, because winning that one puts all the rebellious leaders directly in your prison, which stabilizes your kingdom.

[@kamikazesopp]

@@voided_sun Geez, sorry to offend. While I get your points, I have to counter a little bit: not upgrading your stuff because your kids will carve it up in a game largely about building dynasties is like not fertilizing your fields because your kids will just eat all the crops. Hanging on to your money is fine, but when you are consistently suffering from things like small and weak levies, and getting easily sieged because of your shitty castles, not upgrading them when you could afford it twice-over is nonsense. Lewis is just new to the game, ain't nothing wrong with that. No need to swoop in like a bald eagle and ravage a pretty weak criticism. :P

[@voided_sun]

@@kamikazesopp offended and criticizing are two different things. I'm not the one pretending to be ripping his balls because Lewis wasn't spending money when a crisis is looming.

[@kamikazesopp]

@@voided_sun Okay, I must have worded myself badly. No ball-ripping was intended. My dick might have been ripped into low-orbit, but that was just a personal thing. While I still think he wasn't properly utilizing his wealth, I'm willing to bury my opinion-hatchet here.

[@drizzle8309]

"I'm just gonna let him have it." And he wonders why people think he's an ass...

[@eljeffery3147]

I love how Duncan raids Lewis for like 15 gold and then Lewis retaliates by buying mercs for 400 gold "You cant raid me"

[@Reason300]

Can someone give me a title of a live wherein spiff exploits the game/match?

[@MegaRemington13]

What happened to Duncan at the start? I haven't heard him speak in like an hour...

[@hazz1337]

Duncan sad laughing, lol

[@dylan4137]

Someone needs to tell them that you dont lose you de jure capital titles upon succession. If you organize everything correctly you shouldn't have any problems

[@AnonSeacat]

You can lose your capital duchy if you have elective succession on a kingdom title, while the duchy title still follows the realm law.

[@mclovemoffin5977]

Spiff is like a god in this game.

[@nicholasjones7774]

I wasnt sure what the Duncan hate was. 3:20:00. Being a bellend.

[@Sadeyr]

Lewis genuinely looks like Alfred from The Last Kingdom in the thumbnail. x3

[@thesteelrodent1796]

Þ is a 'thor', one of the letters in the Icelandic alphabet. It's literally pronounced 'Th', so 'Þorbjörn' is 'Thorbjörn, but in 'Þorbjörn' the 'h' isn't completely silent.

[@stormwarren3126]

Haven’t watched it yet can’t wait

[@atspydrxiiiontwitter7468]

is this the non sponsored CK3 video? 'cause that's when we really learn if it's worth buying.

[@atspydrxiiiontwitter7468]

rythian is so wholesome. he role plays happy marriages full of love.

[@atspydrxiiiontwitter7468]

pretty on brand that duncan drank himself to death.

[@charliegorham8301]

I’ve got it and if you like strategy games and are willing to spend a couple hours figuring things out then I definitely recommend it

[@ddude1417]

Scandinavian Succession isn't bugged. You vote who gets the title aka like the king title in lewis's case, but the county of your current capital still goes to your eldest male child, to stop that you need to change the succession laws for the county, for Scandinavians that's 1500 prestige. Basically when you adopt the elective type it only does that for one title not all of your titles

[@McSnacks930]

I wish Daltos would be a bit more quiet jeez

[@HokadoKong]

We come in at the end because we play to win and end

[@Tenn1ng]

I would love a series where they play more like Civ and fight against eachother. Forming alliances and stabbing eachother in the back.

[@mclovemoffin5977]

Duncan made this not fun

[@emzular]

Duncan 'bUt YoU tOoK tHe LaNd I wAnTeD' Jones; maybe next time don't play as as ruler near any of your friends...

[@YoungGarrett]

This was good stuff, they should do a long term game.

[@macennh]

Scandinavian succession in a duchy which you own all counties

[@bldarkman]

So much Duncan salt XD

[@theformalmooshroom9147]

Yes, fucking love Rythian's "Just kill him then, teach him a lesson" 💯

[@mouseinthehouse_]

How do these guys not know that you can just disinherit your sons so that your main heir keeps all your shit?

[@kamikazesopp]

Because it's not immediatly obvious? The whole "partioning the country among the heirs"-thing is a strange concept by modern standards from how inefficient and archaic it seems.

[@bird9230]

Also disinheiriting is lame. You lose a whole bunch of dynasty fame. And why would you disinherit your kids? I think its fun to just rp.

[@thepurplepanda4]

@@bird9230 it's a min maxing thing for sure.

[@rosehenderson4258]

Yogs say Trans Rights?

[@whenthedustfallsaway]

In regards to Americans *Losing* Vietnam war, we actually withdrew. Data from the Vietcong suggests that they were actually losing the war, but domestic opinion caused us to withdraw.

[@Epicrandomness1111]

People don't care about that stuff lol, its like the French always surrendering or the British invading almost every country. Its not really true, but it's gimmicky reddit internet history.

[@harryeachus]

Ł

[@kairoshin]

Cucking Kings 3

[@scurvymcdiggle2741]

Duncan needs to learn to listen to the smartest man. daltos is king

[@Shhtteeve]

ahhhh spif ruining multiplayer again

[@stephenhanney7958]

Hate to say it, but spiff in these does kind of ruin it. Love the guy, but its not fun to watch

[@adamcharman8726]

I didn't think it was that bad? the men at arms prestige thing is exploity as hell (& needs to be patched so you don't get the prestige you spent on regiments refunded) but it just ups your prestige rank & unlocks the better casus belli. He would have snowballed as he did but 1-2 years later. I know because i managed the same thing & i'm a total scrub at this game

[@Prof.GoodFeels88]

Nah you're tripping spiffs antics are great. If team UK was actually working together it would have been a great fight between them and team scandi.

[@cavalyn]

Spiff is the best part. In between Duncan whining and the others being unsure about things, having someone who plays well, can help them and DOESN'T take advantage to try and squash them is great

[@KuueenKumi]

Queen save you, coffee drinker. Seriously though, he is usually forthwith about exploiting, and he's the only one who doesn't get salty or angry. He also tries to defuse things. He limits himself and shares exploits, so I think it's pretty fair. Not to mention he teams up with Rythian like the plan was all along, and explicitly tells him what he's doing

[@osuf3581]

These are exploits, not strategies. Not fun

[@chosu1234]

Is it just me that thinks this game is a bit overrated baring in mind it is literally ck2 w better graphics

[@finleyjennings6051]

Well not really. one of Lewis' points is that he played lots of ck2 but couldn't get into it and now all of his playtime has become relevant as ck3 is more accessible

[@kamikazesopp]

If you have bought CK 2 and the 300 dollars worth of DLC and played them consistently, then this game isn't anything but a facelift. But CK 3 is much more intuitive and informative than CK 2 ever was for new players. Moving the schemes from RNG-based to timer-based was also a great idea, since you won't be stuck for decades waiting on a fabricated claim to fire.

[@McHobotheBobo]

Nah it's way better than CK2, the stress system, the 3d models, the new trait system, the perk system, the fame system, new religion. Just fuckin' awesome. Two or three DLCs and it will hands down be far and away better

[@Prof.GoodFeels88]

@@kamikazesopp hmm, I disagree. I have all dlcs and over 4k hours in ck2, I think this game is a lot different. There are some ways in which it is worse, particularly in the customizability of things like UI and game rules. Then there is the obvious lack of some systems in ck2 dlcs, however that's to be expected and we got alot more of those systems incorporated into base ck3 than I expected. However ck3 introduces or revamps some systems with great detail, such as the way of life dlc equivalent being far better here and introducing the lifestyle trees. Imo this game is way more character focused than the last, which is really what ck has always been about. Although not totally relevant rn, it looks to me like the dlcs are gonna be better aswell. What particularly makes me think that is the foreshadowing that the China dlc will actually add China to the map.