Lex Luthor SAVES the DC Universe! | Forever Evil

[@comicpop]

Pick up a copy of Forever Evil right here: amzn.to/1OH1Mia​

[@wearesibz]

Ethan- "Whose the gigantic woman?" Sal- "I believe thats giganta" Ethan- "...Excellent" This exchange killed me lol

[@WannabeWryter]

That's so funny

[@WannabeWryter]

29:18 Its really funny and the point of this series

[@KiSwordsman]

"Batman was too busy being too popular." Yeah, that pretty much sums it up for Bruce.

[@caitlinbrewer4843]

Flash villains, some of them, tend to treat villainy as a 9-to-5 job and they tend to actually kind of like Flash too. It's pretty funny. My favorite part of this arc is the attachment Owlman develops for Dick Grayson.

[@carlosantelo7771]

Caitlin Brewer in the KZbin app, it hid the Grayson part of your sentence. I had a great laughed since it caught me off guard.

[@Tamaki742]

I suddenly remember that one Justice League episode where Flash starred in an energy drink commercial. I'm convinced he just went to his villains like, "Hey, I got a gig where you get to beat me up and get some money while you're at it. Deal?" No one can tell me otherwise.

[@camerondodge2070]

32:50 I'm about 7 years too late, but I thought I'd just put this out there. Evil Alfred is supposed to be a reference to the Outsider, a classic Silver Age Batman villain. He was a weird pale white dude with purple pants, he had super powers, and he usually masterminded plans for other people to fight Batman. He turned out to be a presumed dead Alfred. It was a whole thing, but it was a pretty cool thing.

[@fredbushee9161]

I love how Black Manta is like "I AM THE ONLY AQUAMAN VILLIAN HERE, THE TRIDENT IS MINE!!!" And then the fact Ethan was about to get Physical all over Ben with the moon thing. Wicked funny episode though

[@CAPappy]

Black Manta on that Reverse Flash level of hatred

[@richardlevin4488]

"He's got all these dudes in him" -Sal 2016 #quoteoftheyear

[@carlosantelo7771]

Richard Levin it deserves the Brazzers stamp of approval. Lol

[@JC-hu6wg]

Just like superwoman

[@ckd8520]

I like to think that every crime syndicate meeting ends with Ultra man leaving to push the moon back in front of Sun for the 10th time that day.

[@patrickandmarcus3275]

Clayton Dills hi h oh

[@rosesske2551]

That seems like it would get repetitive and annoying real fast.

[@flywheelshyster]

back issues is incredibly rewatchable. ain't even been two weeks, enjoying a second watch

[@comicpop]

+Flywheel Shyster Thanks man!

[@roshi3063]

glad im not the only one who thinks so

[@jm329]

I always come back and watch over the years.

[@flywheelshyster]

@jm329 I still do too. Most watched channel on youtube for me by miles

[@batfreeze56]

Sal, I have to thank you. Before I first found this channel in September, I didn't know ANYTHING about comics and was only interested in Batman if anything. Now when people ask what I want for Christmas I say, in my best Alan Moore impression "Watchmen, cause everything else is all horseshit" :D

[@comicpop]

lol That is awesome, Batfreeze! Thank you!

[@genshishio9316]

Captain Cold takes the spot for most badass moment, it was just to sweet to se him take out evil twinkle toes

[@bobcho105]

Owlman's side kicks were called "Talons" ;)

[@hornpilepheonix6254]

a baby owl is called an owlet

[@sarahrixon7627]

A baby owl in the rain is a moist owlet.

[@Revealingstorm.]

+Sarah Rixon that actually made me chuckle good job lol

[@sombrashadow0013]

Everytime I see this comment I think of Ethan hooting in the Court of Owls episode 🤣🤣🤣

[@lifemattersnot]

I call it lunch

[@mateuscordeiropereira6198]

Black Manta gets a tie in book where his father's body gets destroyed by the tides of ultraman's moon moving.

[@Redem10]

Forever Good: the story of Dick Grayson

[@michaeleasterwood2075]

Great!

[@kordelshorgar122]

i want a video of ethan and ben discussing the moon's orbit

[@mattiecastillo2683]

I still the Earth-3 Aquaman should have been some kind of sky pirate.

[@IamMedellinInc]

Lex didn't build Cold's gun, captain cold built his gun from spare parts he found while hiding out with Lex' crew

[@joshuaharrison1633]

8 years later I wanted to say that to sal😅😅

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Holy crap! Ben looks legitimately menacing in that thumbnail (No offense to Sal and Ethan)! Truly, the Bear is about to strike before he enters deep hibernation...

[@benbaragona]

+Just Some Guy with a Mustache I've practiced my evil grin...a lot. I once worked at a haunted house.

[@brandontriplin5447]

+Ben Baragona oh. My god it most be so evil

[@nathanginn8742]

I️ imagine Zatanna meeting mazahs and just inevitably summoning Shazam by saying his name.

[@anitak3985]

Clever! 😁

[@zacharywalker4369]

Imagine: Owlman turns Nightwing into Nite-Owl. Da dun dunh.

[@Xelveki]

"Ohh... right. The guy who adopted the kid and made him his sidekick.... no duh." Certainly my favorite part of the video, might be out of all of them.

[@hazelcoleman6744]

My crush on Ethan grows. All these years and never did I question the positioning of the moon.

[@comicpop]

+Hazel Contreras I'll let him know ;)

[@ryebreadreturn1]

+Hazel Contreras apparently I should talk about the position of the moon more often

[@joannicholson4156]

Laughed out loud at Sal's deadpan "that's King Shark"

[@michaelthethird702]

I love Back Issues and this has to be one of my favorites. I've watched this episode so many times. This is a great story and you can tell that Sal loves so much of it. I also think I like Sal's explanation of Captain Cold's interaction with Johnny Quick and the frozen leg. That part is so awesome

[@rabl3535]

It's almost prescient when they are talking about Dick Grayson and editorial's plans to ruin him. If only they had any idea what was going to happen to the poor guy.

[@devinamendez9709]

im a rewatcher myself...best comic channel ever

[@yermatedave4930]

At 37:31, you talk about why no one figures out Bruce is Batman due to Dick's unmasking- Johns did hang a lampshade on it: Bruce explains to the public that his ward, former acrobat and police officer, was an early recruit for Batman Incorporated. It's still preposterous that no one but Luthor figured it out, I agree, but it is addressed. 😊

[@Ebrehlac00]

"They had the crime syndicate in her box" (03:24)-The Bear

[@bug5317]

I loved Forever Evil! I love the Crime Syndicate. I think they're a fun change around from the norm.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

And when comes to the test results ultra-man,owl man YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER

[@comicbookbullies]

Oh and you didn't mention that the security guard Lex tells Bizarro to kill was Otis. Lex Luthor's dumbass sidekick from the 70's movies lol.

[@rayvenkman2087]

New 52 was an angry thing wasn’t it?

[@KingOfAllBlerds]

I always look forward to new episodes of Back Issues. Please keep them coming

[@benbaragona]

+KingOfAllBlerds thanks, we will!

[@chaseljohn12]

I've always liked Lex Luthor, but this book made a huge fan out of me. He had so many amazing moments.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Melting people, pushing groups of people into a single person, arm chopping, people squishing, Kryptonite snorting, repeated stabbing, bad guys being good guys-ish. This is all very disturbing. And believe me, I know disturbing. I've seen the Centaur-taur.

[@Xaintrix]

What a great episode! Great walk through the plot and a ton of fun expressed by everyone. Some great moments in the book were highlighted so well. Professional courtesy *blam*

[@TFB97]

This is my favourite DC graphic novel, Forever Evil is a brilliant book. I only started watching this channel last week, and I have already watched about 10 of your back issues and a couple of the rack videos. This is a great channel, you explain the story well, and all you guys are hilarious. Its great to be a comic fan, and be able to listen to other people talk about comics.

[@bryantgrizzle6669]

Just gotta say. The earth moon sun orbit discussion was great and made me laugh a lot. This show is the greatest Best comic book channel

[@benbaragona]

+Bryant Grizzle thanks, this is what we love to do!

[@nathanwright8381]

Thank you Sal. I haven't read the pre-52 superman book ongoing right now. When you said Pre-52 superman was watching the JL during origin I thought something. Does that mean that random guy trying to protect his wife and kids in origin called "David" actually Clark? Because if so my head will blow up like that guy from scanner. Because if it was planned. Wow. 👋👋👋👋Geoff Johns everybody! 👋👋👋👋👋 That man is amazing. He's created the GL Mythos and now he plotted the entire return of the multiverse WITHOUT A CRISIS since day 1!!!!

[@haydentrull7217]

This was the first event comic I read once I started seriously reading comics. I thought it was awesome, that Jeff Lemire's Animal Man (which would be a cool back issues by the way)the Court of Owls were the storylines that helped me fall in love with comics. Say what you want about the New 52, but as a new reader it was pretty awesome for me to catch up pretty quickly with the titles I cared about. I love this show, I've went and read about every episode you've done, at least on the DC side, and your X-Men titles. Even if I don't always agree with you're opinion, I love the passion in your videos. P.S. Thanks for picking the stories for Superman that made him interesting to me (All-Star, Birthright, Kingdom Come).

[@Brainiac356]

my favorite moments easily are 8:55 27:56 31:25

[@jabezcreed]

I really did like this whole story. It had all the big fights you want to see, but without the consequences since it's mainly villains fighting other villains. Plus you get all the crazy comic book stuff like pushing moons, love squares, and alternate realities. Good artwork also. I love your takes on the story and the well-deserved criticism of all the goofy plot points. How awesome was our seeing Yellow Lantern Batman for those 2 frames though, right?!

[@poisonsmoon]

them not liking and trying to get rid of Dick grayson because it ages Batman is so freaking stupid considering that Batman has other sidekicks and a son and they age him so dc or whatever specifically targeting Dick ??? makes no sense to me, Dick grayson is always getting the short end of the stick

[@AliceBright]

gotham knights1 reminds me of a certain other superhero who's family they removed because it was ageing them...

[@ArvynnTababa]

I love the Trinity War and Forever Evil!!! and no, it was the Outsider who opened the Box, Pandora opened the box millions of years ago and unleashed the Seven Deadly Sins and it was shut again... Grid was already sentient at the back of Cyborg's mind/system and he was the one who sent information to the Outsider with the help of Atomica.... and please do Justice League Vol. 6!! That volume includes the aftermath of Forever Evil and the Amazo Virus Arc(which was pretty awesome)... PS: Owlman calls his sidekick/s Talon(assuming he's got a lot of them like Bruce's got four Robins) **I thought the pre-New52 Superman was the one who pushed Darkseid into the Mother Box Portal as the New52 JL are staggered...

[@Spikex1]

42:53 - The Parasite does take powers when he takes a metahuman's energy.

[@patrickjennings8116]

It's the New 52 moon so it obviously doesn't orbit the Earth at all... ;)

[@deanvrosch]

Honestly, I love this channel. Incredibly entertaining stuff, I hope your channel grows a lot more. I might buy this book as well, it seems like great fun. Much love from the Netherlands :)

[@raidahn1]

Sal I think either Ben or you were wondering when Bats and Wonder Woman hooked up its hinted at in the Troika storyline so apparently that got carried over from the eight thousand retcons that have happened LOL.

[@Steg_The_Man]

I stopped watching Arrow to watch this. I regret nothing.

[@amazingspidermew]

Honestly you didn't miss much. It was basically just setup for Legends of Tomorrow.

[@MotionUniverseguy]

The explanation for Mazahs powers can be narrowed down to the polar opposite of Captain Marvel and Black Adams powers. Where their powers are given to them by the gods, Mazahs does the opposite, and can take power from the gods (this being other metahumans). Thats my theory.

[@robertparkhurst4034]

So Amazo but mythical?

[@maringbage1305]

My god, they did it! It has been requested, and it has been done! Love your work, guys. Thank you for the quality content.

[@johntrek187]

loved forever evil. the best crossover arc from new 52. along with justice league origin, Snyders entire batman run, future flash, earth 2 vol1, and aquaman. new 52 certainly had some high points....

[@plumlineltd7585]

Sal's reaction when Ethan says the words "murder machine" is priceless.

[@kazen16]

this is really cool! didnt know this is such a fun story thanks! I will grab a copy!

[@Lowkidoe29]

Wwwooooooo, just the break i needed from working on my new album.

[@bigfest6498]

C'mon guys...everybody knows that a baby owl is called a Hooter...

[@zachcouch1987]

oh Sal and the guys. Another Saturday night with the boys.

[@MagoDSnowman]

I really like Forever Evil Bad guys have always been my favorite part about comic books

[@benbaragona]

+Mago The Snowman I agree, bad guys are really fun

[@timcarder2170]

"She gad the Crime Syndicate in her box!?" Ben says.....And doesn't immediately giggle at what he just said.

[@murder101storytime]

6 years old, I know, but I just reread this today and felt like looking up this episode. Ultraman does actually address the issues mentioned around pushing the moon infront of the sun. He gets back from doing it, sees the damage from tides and quakes and basically goes "Huh. I didn't think about that. Whatever". And then later it's mentioned that he has a schedule for pushing the moon back over the sun when they move out of sync enough to start bothering him.

[@moartv0112]

I think the fact that no one figured out Batman when Nightwing was unmasked is because there is no reason to think the first Robin is Nightwing and that Nightwing really has anything to do with Batman.

[@tristanbastille8554]

I never would have read Forever Evil were it not for you guys (hate Crossovers in general and usually hate Lex Luthor) but you totally sold me on this book and I loved it.

[@MercysLittleShoww]

I started reading comics around the time this event was ending so I've always been curious about it. Great episode.

[@PlayForLOLs]

I liked Forever Evil, especially the scene with Cold and Quick. But the way they released it just killed me, took like two months and was just padded with irrelevant tie-ins.

[@jesserandle3519]

lol not gonna lie I saw this was like, "Cool Back Issues. Wait is this Marvel or DC? Dammit this is gonna end stupid isn't it?" lol thanks guy's. Love the Channel

[@b1merio]

46:20 Bom chick wa wa You forgot the part in Trinity of Sin where Pandora's box wasn't a box but a golden skull because...why was that again :P Anyway, I really didn't like Forever Evil. The tie ins were, for the most part, crap. And this book was for the most part meh. Liked the ending with each of the Syndicate getting offed, but the book overall seemed like such a chore to read. Also what the heck happened to the villains that weren't killed like Superwoman and Owlman. Kind of annoying that they haven't really showed up again even though Superwoman is supposed to be carrying some superbaby and Owlman basically knows who Batman really is.

[@williambrown873]

+b1merio Pretty sure DC's saving Superwoman (and her child) for an event later down the road. As for Owlman, beats me. I'm fine with him just disappearing for good, New52 already has a *way* cooler Owlman.

[@LapsedComicFan]

I didn’t think Trinity war was teeeeeeerrrrrrrible. It’s a lot better than most of the crap nowadays from the big 2. I thought it explained a lot of what happened after the Flashpoint.

[@Orrytt123]

Sal, love the show! I see that the POPulation is getting close to 25k. Maybe in celebration you could get the guys from The Weekly Pull to do another special Back Issues as you did for Kraven's Last Hunt. I really enjoyed that episode.

[@comicpop]

I would love that!

[@jcdx87]

Do you plan on doing Trinity War?

[@yeastu]

hey comicpop! so Sal's shirt is pretty cool. Ben is still way OP. Ethan is surprisingly funny. Great job again! :D

[@standunk]

owlet is a baby owl and funny enough a group of owls is a parliament

[@OmegaRanger1986]

thank you comic pop I can watch this before I buy the graphic novels awesome video

[@supersonicxz1]

“I’m Johnny”

[@TheGuy735]

I really enjoy these. I saw you at BCC this year but I forgot to get something signed (Although I got Superman 64 signed by comicstorian.) Keep up the great content!

[@alejandrogonzalez00]

‘Forever Evil’ that is an awesome title I love it and I love the thumbnail of this video

[@tonyfulgoni2913]

I liked this story overall. It's very much like most of Geoff Johns' big stories. Lots of cool moments and interesting twists on stuff we know. But with plot holes though ones you can over look because they create cool stuff. hah Where Marvel does heroes vs heroes, DC went with villains vs villains

[@HarrisonNaftelberg]

"You will never see king shark again." Is appearing as the main villain in this weeks episode

[@rbraunbeck96]

Sal did you hear that Samurai Jack is coming back

[@comicpop]

I did! Hope Mako's successor rocks.

[@TheRealZubes]

Well...he's gotta get back... back to the past...you know Samurai Jack? Waaaachaaa!

[@ricardorios2355]

+ComicPOP! You guys should cover the Samurai Jack comic by Jim Zub. It is great.

[@TevyaSmolka]

+ComicPOP! i am so happy that Samurai Jack is back

[@grimthane]

I thought for a second that Ethan was gonna let that moon shit slide. So glad he didn't.

[@jtsupersized]

I loved this book. So many great moments. Also, can't wait for episode 100, the last, or you could say, the FINAL CRISIS. #CRICYCLE

[@tromusic7815]

Sal's answer as to whether or not Black Adam has the same powers as Shazam kills me lmao

[@vigorlilover]

I've watch this episode like 5 times, I die every time. It's hilarious.

[@marcusjackson8135]

This was the first book I read when I got into comics a few months ago.

[@nathanwright8381]

I'm sorry for you that books is very confusing for new readers. But as Stan Lee says "Every comic is someone's first comic". Here are some books you might want to check out: Green Lantern: all the books by Geoff Johns, If you love 80's cartoons TMNT, Transformers, and Jem and the Holograms are goods a good indie book is Invincible from Imagw and Robert Kirkman. If you've seen the marvel movies I definitely suggest Civil War

[@marcusjackson8135]

I read civil war three weeks ago and I bought sinestro corps war and blackest knight last week.

[@jeremyjohnson9053]

This was almost as intense as an episode of Getting Physical with Ethan.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Why do DC comics hate nightwing so much

[@singh91zh]

Ultraman pushes the moon several times, so it blocks the sunlight from where he is on earth

[@QuintMarvel]

A baby owl is called an Owlet, but traditionally, Owlman's sidekick was called Talon.

[@sirscizor8935]

shout out to Ben, dat evil grin do!

[@Snowjob109]

Look at how ripped Black Manta is in that picture. Jesus christ.

[@matrixgear08]

To be fair, that thing with the tides was addressed in the Black Manta tie in to this event.

[@Blackwing2040]

This was definitely the best story new 52 story I ever read

[@TheGuy735]

But what about Death of The Family?

[@thecityofboston1251]

What about court of owls

[@Blackwing2040]

Raging Froakie I would make that my 2nd, and also Justice League: Origin is tied with Forever Evil for my number 1 spot

[@Blackwing2040]

The city of Boston That was a good story, it's this story brought all the villains from the new 52 and you have some of the best villains along with Batman and Catwoman to team up with each other

[@creme8338]

+Raging Froakie death of the family was soooo bad and melodramatic. way too much dialogue and dumb story. worst of the n52 batman by far.

[@anothercleverusername992]

That Classic Comic Book Moment: *Sinestro:* _"What's happenen?!"_

[@IamKel-gf2ty]

According to google a baby owl is either a owlet or fledgling

[@karsten128]

I'm so mad at D.C. for doing that to Dick is my favorite superhero

[@raymondcorona3682]

imagine if owlman joins the court of owls just saying dc make it happen

[@Skitsless]

The Flash villain tie in for this book was also real good.

[@ianmckee4726]

I woud say if anyones interested tjat the best tie in to FE was Blight. It is way too long at something like 18 parts, but it actually contributed to the overall story by the end. Turns out the evil magic users from the syndicate were trying to turn all the magical heroes (besides Shazam for some reason), into magical WMDs to magic nuke the Anti Monitor when it showed up. So they had a plan, despite what Johns made it look like. This one focuses on Constantine, Zatanna and the rest of the JL dark though, so be warned if you wander in not knowing DC magic.

[@ianmckee4726]

Arkham War was a very mixed tie in if anyone was curious. Bane trying to take the city and besting the Talons of the court was a neat idea, but the ending kind of ruined the entire story for me. In Court of Owls a single Talon was roughly a match for batman at his peak, but in the end of Arkham war he picks off like a dozen or so of them in like half a page. Then he fights Bane, who is in his own armored bat suit complete with a cowl and cape. I would recommend it, but go into it expecting batman to show up and declare he wins because hes batman.

[@ianmckee4726]

hakamhak The little there was was indeed fun. Bane and Cobb were a cool pairing. I wish they had stuck around for abit though. Bane had all of Blackgate, the talon brigade, and whatever was left of his army. Even with Barbra and Dick beside him, that should have been a whole other miniseries of Bruce trying to take the city, no mans land style.

[@ianmckee4726]

hakamhak JL was also a mixed bag. Johns goes into the backstories of the syndicate like we all don't know they will never mater again. Also he tires really hard to make Cyborg interesting, then he gets bored and throws him aside for the metal men. It is a strange feeling to realize the androids who just showed up are far more fleshed out and interesting than one of the founding league members.

[@ianmckee4726]

hakamhak I just didnt see anything above the standard dark mirror to the heroes stuff. Junkie evil Superman is novel, but he needed so,e characterization better than Im strong so im in charge junk. Owl Man is just Prometheus, Wrath, or any other dark Batman archetype you wish to name. Just his name is interesting and even that is very similar to the twist from court of owls. As for the dark trinity surviving, I just doubt it will come to anything. Superwomans baby is supposed to be the key to something, but so is power ring and i have no faith the three of them will alter anything. Cyborg should have never been on the league. I am fairly new to DC but i cannot except that he was the most interesting minority they have to bear. Jaime Reyes the Blue Beetle is far more interesting as a character based off what I have read of Victor. As it is now, Vic is just there to ferry them around via boomtubes like a chauffeur.

[@masterrance]

Then I bet you weren't a fan of the Robin Wars when a bunch of kids could take on talons.

[@Sicod79]

Justice League loses....hmmm....don't let Scott Snyder know, it might awaken something in him.

[@jabezcreed]

My favorite component of the storyline is Ultra Man moving the moon so he doesn't get weak.

[@b1merio]

+jabezcreed Which makes even less sense when you think of the fact that in order to move the moon he would have to have flown into space where he would have been even more greatly exposed to the sun than on Earth due to the lack of an atmosphere, especially when you consider that he shriveled up once Black Adam and Sinestro move the moon back into proper orbit.

[@jabezcreed]

+b1merio Exactly. It's just so comic book.