How the war in Ukraine will end | John Mearsheimer and Lex Fridman

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Full podcast episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGXafYuErsmtm7s Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzbin.info Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.

[@teamextras4life270]

🤔 Ukraine A Waste Of America TAXPAYER'S MONEY 💰

[@hunterphung3638]

can't get any intellect from Putin propagandists. John only knows how to repeat Putin lies and propaganda.

[@bigrootbigroot8237]

He also talks out of both sides of his ass,

[@nenojovanovic9360]

Lex, why are you pushing CIA propaganda?

[@marions7423]

blaming the victim. what will prevent putin to annex those oblast after lifting sanctions. it is total bs. putin invaded crimea when ukraine was neutral. and neutral ukraine is bs from mearsheimer. putin through russian mafia will dominate so called neutral ukraine as with no rule of law it would be maduro like regime. as in belorus with no single belorus language school.

[@Imbalanxd]

when lex said "they cant reach an agreement even with the US at the table?" I spit out my coffee

[@PepeCoinMania]

😂😂😂

[@davidsmith5094]

You're right !! There will never be peace as long as the U.S. is sitting at the same table!!

[@yous2244]

US is the problem 😂😂😂. Problem is Americans never read history except what media tells them

[@davidkottman3440]

Who's history are you reading? That also is a huge difference.

[@quarter_moon_and_a_guitar]

Yeah, we're virtual whizzes at foreign policy. In fact, I can't think of any misguided U.S. foreign conflicts since WWII. On second thought, every one of them. @@davidsmith5094

[@ryanleemartin7758]

The smile on Mearsheimer's face at @13:34 as Lex is talking about person to person talks overriding distrust of the West is great. To me, it expresses.. "Lex, bless your heart, you sweet summer child".

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Well, Lex is blissfully unaware of the fact that under Zelensky Putin's " brother figure " Viktor Medvedchyk was arrested on totally idiotic charges and brutally tortured. Is it even fair to ask Putin to sit down with the psycho killer? Even under Poroshenko there were no death squads, kill lists and people disappearing. Volodya and I don't want to " sit down " with Zelensky- we want him to go for a swim with the fishes in the Hudson River! End of story.

[@3dee106]

Haha well said

[@harleyquinn8202]

lol

[@islandwills2778]

yup sounds about right, while lex is partially correct that sometimes great leaders can transcend the normal bounds and make deals that might normally never be possible there is only one great leader involved in this conflict and its putin. Zelenski is a puppet to the usa, and negotiating with Biden? Well biden is as far from great as a leader can possibly be.

[@dandysd]

I am grateful to Lex for his seemingly repetitive naive questions and for the Mearsheimer's bulletproof answer. Anyone exposed to this cannot make the mistake of thinking upside down.

[@jimmysparks315]

Correction.... the war started in 2014.... not 2022

[@aleksseb2560]

And Ukraine started the war by killing Russians in Ukraine for keeping Russian culture. Ukrainian started an ethnic cleanse back in 2014.

[@altergreenhorn]

Correction the war started in 1945 when the UK/US saved from the war crime court 20.000 SS Ukraine guys to be later used against Soviet union, as insurgence groups to harm communist soviet union they killed aproxematly 20.000 soviets betwen 1946-1953, then the Soviets seal the borders, yes that was the reason for that as well. More about saving the Ukraine SS guys on Mark Felton channel, title: Ukraine nazis in Britain. CIA suported those Ukrainian since then in Britain, Canada and in the US to be used again in 2004 to install US favorite goverment, they failed, but in 2014 they succeed.

[@lockbert99]

The civil war started in 2014. There were no headlines "Russia invaded Ukraine" in 2014.

[@dontbetreadin4777]

Yes there was, It was all over the place how Russia had Unmarked units operating in ukraine... @@lockbert99

[@seferinorino6951]

@@lockbert99civil war run by Ruzzia.

[@carlossolanom.789]

I swear... how naive can Lex be? He's so cute. I can't wait for him to grow up and pick up a history book.

[@kingkiplar]

I'd be happy with an engaging interviewer. Give him a coffee at least for christ's sake.

[@cazman182]

Can you fucking imagine the US, Ukraine, or Russia acting in good faith? International geopolitics is pure self interest. Every actor is hoping to get the best for themselves. Ukraine would never EVER be truly neutral. All that means is that Russia gets to once again start infiltrating the state's institutions when the US is busy somewhere else like with China for example.

[@chickenlover657]

Cute like a puppy.

[@wojteks4712]

Naive? Lex? His guest just said Russia would be interested in prosperous neutral Ukraine. How naive or corrupt you have to be, after centuries of Russia looting and killing Ukraine in all possible ways? This is beyond naive, it's criminal

[@X9xredgkoa]

he aint dum, but being smart ahh jew engineer or karate mf doesn't make you think in realistic terms, he's still biased

[@abraham_myshkin]

I find it hard to believe that Lex could possibly be this naive

[@milanvanik8701]

Iits not his naivety, It's cognitive dissonance

[@Victoriacernysmith82]

Unfortunately he is. Politics wise lex is not smart at all.

[@charlesspencer6339]

If only he was naive. Very early on he calculated that he is up against his revenue stream if he discusses this conflict objectivly. Now when the invevitable has unfolded he has no leg to stand on so he preaches love. So dissapointing, thats why there is only one Joe Rogan

[@milanvanik8701]

@@charlesspencer6339 Joe Rogan is not the smartest as well! He got many things wrong. Maybe he is too careful (?) anyway regards to politics and news, there are much better podcasts

[@charlesspencer6339]

@@milanvanik8701 not calling him smart but he is authentic...it doesnt appear, at least to me, that he tailors his messaging according to trends

[@Hamgt83]

'have russia and ukraine tried telling eachother they love eachother?' -Lex probably

[@thehonestguitarist6543]

Yes but that was the 17th century. 😢

[@HeyHEY-fg9rp]

It's his gig but it's also his way to remain more or less neutral. His slot makes it neccessary to remain ignorant of a lot of reality.

[@herojam.slava.]

Never, russia always wanted to destroy our nation since their history started from the mongolian Muscovy and they always wanted to steal our culture, language, history and heritage. Because Ukrainian history started from the Kievan Rus.

[@KeekeOrb]

Lex will singlehandedly solve the world peace at the next Miss Universe pageant 🙄

[@cliffgaither]

@KeekeOrb :: 😊 What is wrong with Lex ? He's interviewed too many people to be this naive.

[@KeekeOrb]

@@cliffgaither Lex jumped the shark 🦈

[@defunctuserchannel]

😂

[@defunctuserchannel]

​@@cliffgaitherlex is another elite class fool

[@wandaperi]

@AtlanticCity

[@gov4130]

He should ask BlackRock about how it ends.

[@zarategabe]

.....with huge profits for General Dynamics, Boeing, Raytheon, and company....

[@anderseckstrand7033]

BINGO!!! The true owners of the US government, along with Vanguard, StateStreet, J. P. Morgan Chase, and ALL of the Washington think tanks.... It’s amazing how uneducated most westerners are. I’m from New York and I see the smug ignorance every day! 😂

[@nicknamenick9448]

They will buy all Ukraine probably

[@maverickgood5204]

Only if Ukraine gov is still in charge.

[@maverickgood5204]

Only if Ukraine gov is still in charge.

[@shayneswenson]

Lex-“do you think it’s a good idea for world leaders to talk about stuff?” The popularity of this guy’s podcast is a testament to the median IQ of western civ these days.

[@muresandani]

Don't confuse your cynicism for intelligence, Lex is far more intelligent than you are. He's just naive on this particular subject.

[@AveTrueToCaesar8212]

@@muresandani Lex is a shill

[@jaimeperez8247]

It’s always some “easterner “ talking shit about the west. The whole “ east vs west “ shit is hilarious because ppl from the west never even use that term it’s only yall 😂😂😂.

[@-the_emperor-1660]

@@jaimeperez8247 It is not the easts problem youve bred so much gore on this world that not pointing it out would be like choosing to go blind.

[@jaimeperez8247]

@@-the_emperor-1660 only western nations are to blame for all the atrocities committed by man? That’s hilarious. Guess you don’t know your history

[@aznblu3cap]

I truly believe Lex has good intentions with his naive “humanity” questions, but it’s a bit difficult to listen. This is not a marriage dispute, and stakes are extremely high. This is not a place for emotional heart to hearts of two people. Besides, Zelenski can’t make the call on decisions Putin would want him to make for the conversation to be productive.

[@overbe]

He is very naive and kinda delusional. I think we all know that words of Western leaders hold no value. Also US has no leader. I'd say it's the most corrupt country on Earth

[@timmy-wj2hc]

Zelensky is a US puppet, everyone in the world knows that.

[@PDNvideos]

Sadly and unfortunately you are completely right

[@sigma4471]

Absolutely. Foreign relations are not romantic relationships.

[@nalanala9725]

I disagree just in that not even a marriage dispute can not be solved by an emotional heart to heart.

[@serafim7779]

This feels like an adult explaining things to a toddler

[@tjcint]

I was thinking something similar.

[@fgb3126]

There is something about Fridman that is rather unbelievably naive and idealistic in a World of Real-Politik! It is time, Lex, to wake up and smell the coffee.

[@yokoyosi3084]

Exacly

[@spritemultipack]

@@fgb3126 It's something which is usually kind of endearing about him but becomes absolutely insufferable when conversation is in this space

[@Thomas...191]

Well I bet he is way more knowledgeable than you on every counterpoint to each mershimer argument.

[@xuevgermanist]

13:03 As a Russian, sometimes I can't help thinking Lex believes in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus

[@jinkazama7491]

I would like to think Lex is a smart guy but he’s just dumbing himself down to get the views.

[@pierman4858]

As a Russian you need to protest the war and not type silly comments here.

[@sshpeppermint]

​@@pierman4858 oh shut up, you have no moral right to tell people to go against their government. are you going to protect them afterwards?

[@pierman4858]

@@sshpeppermint if I would protect Russians if they get in trouble with the Russian state for protesting the invasion of Ukraine? Nope, probably not. My wife left Belarus and can never return there because she protested Lukashenko. I guess supporting her is my little part in the fight for justice. I do also support the victims of Russia's aggression in Ukraine.

[@kostia_ff_]

​​@@pierman4858why he must protest? For many Russians this war is protective war and honest

[@andrewholmes2343]

Prof.Mearsheimer hits the nail on the head once again,you have my vote any day.A guy who knows and knows what he is talking about.

[@JHank-yb4jv]

Lex can be hard to take seriously

[@tankerd1847]

Yeah I think Mearsheimer has the most realistic take here. I think what Lex has to remember is that both of these men, Putin and Zelenskyy, are ideologically motivated in the favor of their own nations, they feel wronged by the other and Putin feels wronged by the West. Does Lex really think Zelenskyy after two years of watching his people get butchered by the Russians could sit across from Putin, smile, and say "Let's figure out how to end this thing?" And conversely, Putin who sees a grave security threat to his people from Ukrainian ascension into NATO, who has seen the West throw countless billions of dollars of advanced armaments into Ukraine to kill his soldiers, could sit across from Zelenskyy and actually figure something out? I appreciate Lex's heart and hope, but it's not realistic. In my opinion, the only way this ends is if the West backs off and leaves Ukraine to be beaten by Russia. Otherwise it's going to turn into an unstable frozen conflict, like Mearsheimer alluded to, to where both sides beat the crap out of each other until a ceasefire and then the conflict will simmer until something sparks it off again or Russia thinks they can break Ukraine down a little further. There is no way this is going to end the way the United States and Russia have gotten entangled, because both sides have too much to lose. Not until one side decides to give up, and who has more to lose? Russia who sees Ukraine in NATO as an existential threat, or the United States who are funding a proxy war to gain strategic supremacy over Russia? All the US has to lose at this point is face and strategic advantage. I think Russia has more to lose and more they have lost. I don't see them backing down after what they have already sacrificed.

[@TheMasterhomaster]

Because Lex is globally naive.

[@imanghavami]

I agree, he keeps mentioning the human side. It is kind of annoying as well.

[@TrueFork]

"no NATO expansion" and such have been promised before, and the previous promises and agreements were broken. I think at this time Russia will accept no less than unconditional surrender.

[@omarchemly8412]

Lex is bought and paid for by the usual suspects

[@junk4dimeji]

For a scientist, Lex's dismissal of evidence is shocking!

[@yuriysemenikhin302]

And that's how russian propaganda works. They pay Lex a few pennies and he eats up their BS and then throws it at us.

[@robby3467]

What evidence? At least Lex pushed back against this guy's crazy claims. Everyone with even a half functioning brain knows this war was cause by pootin. It's been like that since ruZZia stole Crimea.

[@rotfogel]

What evidence?

[@rotfogel]

Love Lex nodding, just listening to this idiot, Lex knows things, this fool (John M.?), is WAY out of his element. It's as if he doesn't read any history. Finnish war of 1939 ring a bell to this idiot? I mean, John M is WAY out of his element.

[@Sayantra]

Why? Do u know how actually work science today?

[@Sup_Mate]

This guys “I believe in the power of individual leaders” position is cringey childish nonsense.

[@overbe]

1000% It was big WTF moment

[@Sup_Mate]

@@overbe it’s very egocentric. This is a numbers game occurring on an epic scale and these leaders and constantly making decisions with a limited scope of the facts, both intentionally and unintentionally betraying each other. This is not a movie, Lex.

[@MinhVo-ig7no]

I wouldn't call it cringe but definitely naive. He still believes if someone like Trump is the US president somehow the US will suddenly have the global power and influence like it once did after Soviet collapse. The Western world has been playing with Putin's trust for years and now none of the Russian leadership are listening anymore. You violate s.o trust for so long and expect them to be the humble person? Thats impossible.

[@RealistReviewer]

Figureheads have power? 🤣

[@cowboyingeurope]

Ukraine to accept being anexed? Not a f **cking chance

[@jamessmithers4456]

The war started in 2014 not 2022

[@lordlink1]

I was listening to this while hiking and I was SCREAMING when a smart guy like lex was talking about the leaders talking person to person about war. It reminded me of when people talk about Manifestation.

[@MrFrossty94]

God I was doing the same. He just couldn’t let that idea go

[@sirlancair]

Idealism and optimism decline with age. Intelligence decreases slightly, but wisdom increases exponentially. I see John saying..and this is one of our smartest youth...oh, the Naiveté.

[@troiscarottes]

Why do you call him a smart guy? He doesn't seem to know the first thing of what he's talking about!

[@sirlancair]

@@troiscarottes You must also have a PHD in Robotics or Computer science?, so to me..that's fn smart. Now, naive..another story

[@sillymesilly]

@@sirlancairno a midwit can have phd.

[@Jny235]

This is incredible. This is what "they will never learn", " history repeats itself" is all about. "The war starts on February 24, 2022". Hey asshole, 2014 called, he wants his beginning of the war title back.

[@MP15aug]

Lex is a demonstration of a smart person that is extremely dumb in area outside his main focus.

[@yous2244]

Yeah like Jordan Peterson and Elon Musk, especially Jordan Peterson when he started talking politics

[@user-lp8ur5qn3o]

@@yous2244 Exactly, Jordan Peterson studied USSR history and now thinks he understands everything there is to know and that everyone is dumb on this issue except him.

[@documenter1199]

@@user-lp8ur5qn3o nah bro stop the hate despite some discrepancies he has deep insight.

[@Zeckellin]

@@yous2244 From your lips to God's ears! When the SMO broke out, Jordan went right away to interview Fred Kagan "to get to the bottom of what was going on." I nearly cried. My hero revealed that indeed he has feet of clay. I wanted to shout out "Jordan, please, stay in your lane" but alas.

[@megamastah]

​@@yous2244Agree. I respect JBP a lot, but his take on external politics is hot garbage, all the while being preached with absolute certainty. He talks a lot about the romantic appeal of communism/Russia, only to fall prey to it.

[@dnz_k]

Lol. John explains how France, Germany and Ukraine leaders said one thing but did another thing and Russia leader lost trust to their words Lex again talks about leader word...

[@romanroman1850]

​@@ZugZugMahognymearssomethings aren't just informed of that ((...

[@ApakukiNayacakalou]

this guy needs to quit while he is ahead, not dig a bigger hole! What a dunce! LOL!

[@dan-bz7dz]

@@ZugZugMahogny After a coup. Funny because the West were talking about invading Niger for the same reason. But Russia isn't allowed to play with the same rules

[@triglavbog7527]

after killing of the Russians, banning of the Russian language and Russian political parties in Ukraine.. Of course they had to come in.@@romanroman1850

[@eachday5705]

​@@dan-bz7dz This is misinformation. Ukraine is a parliamentary-presidential republic. The parliament remained intact, and President Yanukovych fled. The same parliament that once voted for Yanukovych's laws also voted for his removal from the presidency due to non-compliance with the labor code. President Yanukovych had the full right to challenge this decision in court but did not do so. That's all, no terrifying coup.

[@drleishaobo]

Lex is so politically naive, geo-politic is all about interest. Interpersonal trust means nothings.

[@timmy-wj2hc]

He has the mentality of a 5 year old.

[@greasher926]

Yep both sides need to make real compromises. Most compelling would be Russia getting those territories they have already annexed and in return Ukraine gets to join EU/NATO. That or Russia returns all the territories back and Ukraine becomes neutral. However both sides want their cake and eat it too, so no diplomatic progress can be made.

[@taoforte8988]

The naivety is an act, which makes him untrustworthy.

[@DearProfessorRF]

Those judging Lex as a naïve young man are the real problem in the world today. A world ignorant of how much has dialogue achieved to prevent wars and violence throughout human history. Keep it up Lex. there’s enough historical evidence to back up the approach that you are encouraging and sharing with us.

[@Krakondack]

An interviewer's job is to get the most out of his guest. You have to earn the right to have your opinion be relevant to the interview, as Prof. Mearsheimer has, but Lex has not. I couldn't believe the naivete in his last question where it was all about his ill-informed opinion, and the shocked look on John's face as he had to politely tell him no, that's not how things work.

[@dingo8babym20]

He sounds like a tankie. EVERYTHING is the U.S. fault. He thinks it's best that weak countries submit to dictators. It would be bad - because, yes, there would be bloodshed - if we intervened. That's what we did with Poland, and Czechoslovakia 85 years ago. How'd that go?

[@RlsIII-uz1kl]

John represents the view of the permanent political class within every allied nation and the unelected globalist oligarchies (not all) who've used neoliberal economics and unconstitutional military acts to finacially bend and militarily break those with different cultures and traditions for power wealth and resources in the false name of freedom and democracy. We've watched the faltering of the unipolar liberal international order because of those facts and a new unipolar international international order has risen. We're also witnessing a National Populist global movement that'll redemocratize the rising Western Civilization State. What we're watching play out was theorized by prized author and Harvard Professor Samuel P Huntington. We have a lot of work to do if we plan on staying on top! Trump 2024!

[@kingenoname1495]

This is guy has bought and paid for by Putin. Don’t buy anything he is selling.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Because everything is. Starting with Operation Paperclip. We've become too bold, too unreasonable, too greedy. If we wanted to hold onto Ukraine we should have been sending the people who grew up in the Mexican States and nobody else. True, Yares'ko is a Ukrainian but she's not a Texan or Californian- what the hell could she know about keeping the peace between the Anglos and the Mexicans? But then again- the Blake Association never wanted peace, right? Of course right. The idea that my fellow Californians Pelosi, Speier and Feinstein didn't know what the hell they were doing when they allowed an open Banderite by the name of Yuschenko with his CIA wife to influence Ukrainian politics is laughable.

[@a8uella]

It’s genuinely mind boggling

[@BarinKayaoglu]

I really admire Lex's idealism. But this "sitting across the table / trust in talking man-to-man" idea was tried before. Truman on Stalin during the Potsdam Conference: "I liked the s.o.b." And then came the 45-year Cold War. I don't have a solution I could lay out in a comment section, but I can say more is needed than "the power of the individual."

[@taoforte8988]

You encapsulated my thoughts on Lex's idealism in a much more polite way than I am able to, because to me, he is being purposefully ignorant. For what reason? I can only speculate that it's related to self branding.

[@anderseckstrand7033]

@BarinKayaoglu....... This is a war the US provoked and strived for for over a decade when Putin has tried several times to negotiate peace with surprisingly fair terms. Keeping Viktor Yanukovych in power would have been much more preferable, especially to Ukraine’s survival. But the US neocons, globalists, and Military Industrial Complex wanted to create a new taxpayer laundering conflict they could immensely profit from at the expense of NATO and Eastern European security.

[@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns]

Or maybe you misread history. Maybe if there were more Tehran, Yalta and Potsdam conferences after the war, then deténte with the Soviet Union could've been the order of the day. Don't forget that Stalin defined his rise to power by halting the Soviet Union's war against Poland and the East. This was part of his "socialism in one country" foreign policy in stark contrast to Trotsky who wanted endless war with the West under what he called "Permanent Revolution". Stalin also reached out to Western powers like Great Britain and France to contain Hitler prior to being rebuffed, and thence signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in an attempt to secure his eastern flank. Like Putin, Stalin also sought membership inside NATO. The Russians lost 27 million in that war, the third such war in which Russia was almost wiped off the face of the Earth after Napoleon and the Kaiser invaded years before, and even the US supported the whites in their civil war with Russia. Stalin needed to dominate Eastern Europe as his way of guaranteeing Russian/Soviet security from future western invasions. That's why he pushed Germany's border back to the Oder-Nesse Line. That's why he dominated Eastern Europe. That's why he allowed Finland to remain neutral (because the west could not easily invade via Finland). Stalin's post-WW2 domination of Eastern Europe was thus pragmatic, not ideological, much like the US has had its puppet states around the world since overthrowing Mossadegh in Iran.

[@anderseckstrand7033]

@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns.....Very well said. Most westerners don’t even know that Putin wanted to become a NATO member and do business with Europe. Putin actually admires European culture, and up until recently, was doing a lot of business with Eastern Europe and Germany.

[@TheAntsh]

He thinks that leaders of countries are like absolute monarchs alone can decide everything. The thing is any leader is just a face representing many different power/financial structures and interests within a country. That's why Zel couldn't negotiate - his hands were and still are tied by banderites and Nato puppet masters.

[@wthomas5697]

Lex really needs to stop offering his lame opinions.

[@nomadkxm3240]

He is so cringe

[@mikexhotmail]

It is "Normie lame opinions" he offering. ps. He just act as it is his own.

[@timmy-wj2hc]

He is a Slavic, raised in US, brainwashed by US propaganda and has the mentality of 5 year old. So naive and childish.😂

[@AmbivertFellow]

Lex is Russian and he wants his people both Russian and Ukrainian (Slavic, Christian Men) to stop killing each other, it comes from a loving heart.

[@wthomas5697]

Of course he does. However, emotional reactions aren't useful in evaluating reality. @@AmbivertFellow

[@bcvetkov8534]

Lex has such a good heart. Never change man. Kindness goes a long way. Much love to ya.

[@henrikasb1626]

War didnt start at 2022... it began at 2014... 3:11

[@8uratino]

officially it was a civil war

[@henrikasb1626]

@@8uratino Even if it was a civil war, there were ruz soldiers involved. People were tracking em down with footage.

[@8uratino]

I know. I'm just saying that officially war started in 2/24/2022

[@stanbondarev9256]

@@8uratino "officially" both sides have not declare war yet, officially only putin declared he send russian armied forces into Ukraine (to provide "deukrainianzasion" or what-ever-he-want)... Indeed it has really started in 2014.

[@xo121w]

@@8uratino civil war with Russian military involved. makes sense lol. was Iraq civil war too?

[@kierenmoore3236]

Lol … get real … Ukraine with no security arrangement = No Ukraine … be serious!!!!

[@ivank656]

"I believe in democracy but I also believe in autocracy when it suits me" - Lex

[@Raul_Menendez]

Lex Luger

[@michdo23]

Lex. And everone else, sadly.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

Lex Luthor

[@Inchaos42]

He is russian

[@sangueblu8383]

there is no democracy, there are only autocrats (individuals or as a group) who are democratically elected. btw democracy has been a rotten system ever since it was created in ancient greece

[@coffeeortea547]

12:58 I'm not sure I understand Lex's point about human nature and trust. Lets say he's right that Putin has that capacity to trust Zelensky, like he's capable of doing it. But assuming Mearsheimer is right about the Minsk agreements (which idk), what reason has he been given to do so? For the hope of ending the war? Assuming Mearsheimer is correct about Minsk, then Putin can only believe that any negotiation now is yet another attempt for Ukraine to further entangle with NATO, resulting in an even bloodier war in a few years time.

[@AbcDino843]

Mearsheimer doesn't have an "opinion" about Minsk, that he can be right or wrong about. His statements on Minsk are based on explicit statements of EU officials made in a public forum. This is a matter of public record, it's a fact.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Not assuming- Uncle John is correct about Minsk.

[@Aleks.Markov]

Lex has no idea either he’s just trying to come off inspirational and is way out of his league.

[@tatianalyulkin410]

95% of Americans don't truly understand the conflict. The minute you start repeating the official Party drivel you've become totally useless as an analyst.

[@pervnav14]

Lex using platitudes substituting a lack of knowledge

[@stephensuddick2557]

Annexation of territory does not mean holding territory.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

It's not Putin and Zelensky that need to talk - it's Putin and NATO.

[@freeloader247]

NATO is a US client organization. Washington is an adversary .

[@robosergTV]

did russia attack NATO or Ukraine? The russian invasion has nothing to do with NATO, its about Ukraine.

[@marcinromanczyk9587]

⁠@@robosergTVyoure in the wrong comments section on YT for sure my friend.

[@ashfield1425]

@@robosergTVIt has everything to do with NATO. For Christ’s sake go and read something and become educated. So frustrating seeing these brain dead drone like comments.

[@jinkazama7491]

That’s what some people still don’t get. It was never about Zelensky, he’s just a fall guy. It’s the US/NATO that are really pulling his strings.

[@ElkoJohn]

*The truth hurts doesn't it Lex.*

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

One of the things I've just learned from watching this interview is that John Mearsheimer appears to be a very patient and very kind interlocuter. Holy shit, Fridman has no idea just how kind.

[@RobinHarris-nf4yv]

John Mearsheimer is talking bolox, it's pure opinion. It was Russian atrocities in Bucha that ended any negotiations not the West

[@TheBigWall3284]

​@@RobinHarris-nf4yvexcuses.

[@RudySanErik]

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv You really belive in that BS. Look up some articles about that "incident" its full of fals claims. NYT is writing about bevidence (fotos/videos/vitneses) bot never show any. its sus

[@sava411]

@@RobinHarris-nf4yv source?

[@VladislavDoroshuk]

@@sava411 mary jane

[@cesarpolitics7576]

Have you noticed that whenever Mearsheimer is talking about Putin he is always the good guy, he was the one negotiating in good faith, Russia was always the one who wanted peace through a reasonable agreement.... I mean, even if he believes those things no one ever asks why he believes that is the case? Interviewers shouldn't let him get away with those explanations, he says stuff which is beyond unreasonable and no pushback.

[@DJRYGAR1]

he is literally Kremlin's mouthpiece. He might be 'useful idiot' or straight up foreign influence agent. It is so obvious for outside observer

[@DmytroZhyvonitko]

He is spreading bullshit about NATO and its expansion, I would say most russians don't believe in this crap.

[@Andrew-pv5sx]

He asks what happend during Istanbul talks? -Bucha happened

[@nesirosern8596]

Bucha did not happen Boris Johnson happened He himself admitted that he convinced Zelensky not to sign anything And then they made up Bucha for the stupid people like you as an excuse for the war to continue

[@evgenyreshetnikov3483]

Made up by USA and Britain. His point still stands.

[@Peter-bg1ku]

Lex, I like your idealistic solution to this situation. But I'm sorry to say, that will never happen.

[@WW12882]

Lex is smart, but sometimes he is terribly naive.

[@taoforte8988]

Yes he is smart, so that naivety is strategic. Lex is not who he tries to project himself to be, and that is very troubling.

[@robosergTV]

he is not naive, he is a pro russian fascist

[@Allynism100]

@@robosergTV Look at you throwing around the word 'fascist' with no basis. Fascist doesn't mean anything now so it isn't a insult anymore

[@rogueagent0191]

Lex is anything but smart

[@IndoG117]

To put it more into a Computer Scientist's point of view regarding world politics so that Lex may understand; it's like a giant never-ending game of Game Theory: every 'agent' is always trying to maximise its 'utility'. There is no room for 'human trust'. States are 'machines', not 'squishy humans'.

[@stateofopportunity1286]

Just like corporations.

[@CashCatz]

This is a great analogy.

[@cpthrki5852]

Well it shows you have zero clue on game theory. Spoiler alert, being mean in game theory means you lose, trust and forgiveness are winning traits.

[@cobanus2862]

Human machines*

[@arthurbrina111]

This guy, Fridman, is incredibly naive. Mearsheimer is being polite to him, and is gracious in the way that he is taking this guy to "school".

[@jojomojo3847]

But Mearsheimer is appearing just as naive, pretending the agressor being the real victim here... with age it seems you CAN lose a sense of reality.

[@mrobocop1666]

@@jojomojo3847 there is no black and white, kid

[@edwinwee267]

This discussion is insane. Words and no matter what Diplomacy is used have closed its doors a long time ago. Only Military might remains. Correct - Trust is the door!

[@TheArtimusMaximus]

That's ridiculous

[@migdetg.885]

You are naive lol

[@imrekalman9044]

Just to clarify the collective west closed the door on diplomacy, at least 30 years ago. Everywhere else, namely the other 150 countries of the planet diplomacy is well and thriving. For example the Russian efforts to bring Syria back to the Arab world, or the Chinese bringing Saudi Arabia and Iran to the table. Or the total failure of the western anti-Russia sanctions. That's Diplomacy.

[@JeriDro]

What's with the vampiric NPR tone?

[@andrewcharles4349]

Russia shouldn’t settle for anything less than everything east of the Dnipro.

[@stasodessit3965]

If they do , they leave the a Nazi boil right next door. A terrorist state that looks and talks without accent . It would be a big mistake for the Russian s.

[@AbcDino843]

I think with everything that happened in the Black Sea, Odessa is almost certainly not going to stay with Ukraine.

[@andrewcharles4349]

@@AbcDino843 Agreed

[@definitelynotthecia4998]

Lol where do all you ru bots spawn from?

[@sunilsilva8204]

@@definitelynotthecia4998 seems like you are sooo blind that you dont see how the west shot in thier foot now..dont you? keep wishing the west and NATO will come out as winner..

[@resist2030]

You can trust a person, a leader, because behind every leader there is a powerful group of people who can sabotage any promise.

[@jimluebke3869]

"Can relationships between leaders counteract forces of crisis?" Lex, if you want to break your heart with might-have-beens, read up on Gustav Stresemann and the Locarno treaties.

[@gentlemanjim480]

Lex is completely naïve here. He thinks that Russia has some kind of legitimate security interest here and genuinely felt threatened by NATO. That’s absolute nonsense. Putin has been quite open about his imperialist ambitions for very many years, not untypical for a Russian leader. Russia’s lust for imperial expansion is not a new thing. My country fell victim to it as well. Putin wants Ukraine because Putin wants Ukraine, not because of some imaginary fear of NATO.

[@andreyklimov88]

If Ukraine stay neutral without any support of the west, what will stop Russia from taking more regions or whole Ukraine? Or do you believe that this time Russia will not broke the agreement?

[@andrewglitz1]

nothing

[@XployDR]

Потому что России не нужна западная польская Украина. Россия заинтересована только в регионах с русскими людьми и в исторически русских городах. А так же для создания буфера между враждебными натовскими странами хватит несколько областей и нейтральной западной Украины. Запад можно сколько угодно поддерживать экономически Украину, но не накачивать её оружием и устанавливать там свои ракеты и базы.

[@cpthrki5852]

​@@XployDR Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts are 15% ethnic Russian, never belonged to Russia, never separatist. Neither were Kyiv, Sumy, Chernihiv etc. all brutally besieged. NATO can't be close? Where's the invasion of Poland, Baltics and Finland? Big Russia is scared or lying your ass off? And you're calling on history now? Hey we want Konigsberg, occupied Moldova and Georgia, Finnish territory back!

[@UnusualDeathCause]

"The civil war in Ukraine" - you mean the one that had superstar-FSB agent Strelkov running it from the very start?

[@yuriy5376]

Yeah, even Strelkov himself admitted that if it wasn't for him crossing the border in 2014 with his russian fascist fanatics and FSB officers and smuggling a ton of weaponry from russia, there wouldn't have been a war in Donbass in 2014

[@nathanhiggers4606]

So spanish civil war wasn't civil because there were thousand of international volunteers? 🤡

[@samcrick2349]

John wasn’t really pushed on the ping that yes there was a potential peace deal that could have been negotiated but Ukraine would have spoken to the US and UN about what support they had then made a judgement on if they can fight for their country. To say that it was deal that could have worked is not critical thinking.

[@Bryan-fb8dh]

Come on Lex. There's a game ah foot. Call it CIA, KGB whatever. There are think tanks and people playing chess. Sometimes for a states benefit......lets be real though its for pride. And people die. Not them. All this is just a chess move. Its a one dollar bet between friends.

[@joekerr3638]

The Great Game

[@tatianalyulkin410]

Agree- 100%. But it's out of control. I don't think Putin was prepared to play chess with Viktor Medvedchyk's life. And what the frig does Uncle John expect me to do? On October 26 of this year the CIA and the Gestapo/SBU tried- and almost succeeded- to assassinate my brother, Oleg Tsarev.

[@scubamaz1]

Follow the money.... Corruption. The fact that Russia has how much more resources... Manufacturing and men vs. Ukraine? This war was over before it began. PERIOD. - Sense when has the USA followed through?

[@joebloggs430]

Mearsheimer wrote a paper in 1993 stating his belief that Russia would invade Ukraine if Ukraine gave up it's nukes. in 1994 Russia demanded 'Security Guarantees' in the form of Ukraine transferring it's Soviet nukes to Russia. Russia got the nukes and promised to promote an independent and economically prosperous Neutral Ukraine. In 1991 Ukriane had 791,000 in it's military, by 2014 Ukraine had 6,000 combat troops. So in 2014 Ukraine was demilitarised and neutral as Russia had demanded, and it invaded Ukraine anyway. By the way Russia never promoted Ukraine's independence or economic development.

[@valeriegillet473]

After the 2014 coup d’état organised by the West, Ukraine’s neutrality died and as proof throughout its years Ukraine never had a problem until the day the West decided to change this by force by supporting neo-Nazis

[@AlexanderKirilkin]

Because the Mearsheimer is on side of Putin

[@omikhlephonon]

Unless, it actually did, almost every other industrial branch in central and Easterb Ukraine was working with Russian companies, also with Russian MD. Almost all of tge Donbass was deeply connected to Russian industries(since Soviet times) so Yanukovich trying to side with Russia and the US injecting its tentacles in Ukraine's interior affairs made things escalate quickly

[@draganmilicevic3344]

But in 2014,Ukraine decided to join NATO and broke agreement about neutrality.

[@joebloggs430]

@@draganmilicevic3344 Total and utter BS. In 1996 Yeltsin refused to commit to ratify the border and recognise Ukraine so Ukraine was forced to turn to NATO for protection. It applied to join but NATO denied Ukraine because West had Russia-First policy.This scared the **** out of Yeltsin and he signed 1997 Treaty recognising Ukraine. If NATO wanted Ukraine as member they could have had it in 96. In 1991 Ukraine had 791,000 in military. In 2014 Ukraine had 6k combat troops. Russia promised to guarantee an economically prosperous neutral Ukraine but Russia sabotaged neutral Ukraine economically and crippled it with Russian corruption and interference since independence in 1991. In 2014 Ukraine was neutral and demilitarised but Russia invaded it anyway because that was always the plan and anything else is just Kremlin propaganda.

[@sebastianruhland5198]

Is the guy on the left half asleep ?

[@shannonbrown5913]

Scuttling negotiations early on in this war was a terrible choice.

[@phoenixrising4073]

Not for the military industrial complex it wasn't. It was a great decision for them and all their shareholders. I wonder how much money Raytheon and Lockheed Martin used for lobbying and soft money on our politicians?

[@adamblack267]

It has caused bloodshed beyond comprehension.

[@kirillzapple]

John shared some simple yet powerful ideas that modern peace loving generation has forgotten. I don't know who said it but I remember this saying: one thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history.

[@KayiWuzurg]

"I believe in the power of the individuals" Lex, this is isnt harry potter buddy

[@techpriestdominus8611]

If Zelensky ran, none of this would be happening. He stayed and Ukraine fought. Individuals actions obviously matter.

[@KayiWuzurg]

@@techpriestdominus8611 lollll if you say so

[@yemuppet8102]

@@techpriestdominus8611 IQ 60 detected

[@thomasthereal4067]

This dude literally forgot that russia decided that UA was suddenly a facist country and was a part of russia/had to be annexed. Imagine USA annexing Mexico. It's the same level of aggerssion.

[@disco1974ever]

What's your source? r/ukraine comment threads? A) Putin more precisely used the word "Nazi" not "Fascist" but he never said UA was a Nazi country, he said NAZIs had control of the government, military and Interior (SVU/Police) which is objectively true and not denied but anyone credible. In population terms they are insignificant but through their US/EU/NATO Backing and control over the military and SVU they have all the power over what UA does as a national entity. They have support of about 25% of the country, almost entirely from the Western Galician/Ruthenan regions that were the last regions added to UA(SSR) by Stalin. The rest of the country are not NAZI or Fascist or even Nationalists. Putin said Russia will remove the NAZI leadership from UA and that they are doing this for Russia's security and for the moderate 75% of UAs. If Russia wasn't concerned with the UA people, Kiev, Lviv and Odessa would be rubble with millions dead, like what USA does in every war it fights, Iraq, Korea, Vietnam. USA has murdered 6 million people in wars since WW2. ISR killed 4x more Palestinian civilians in ONE DAY than Russia has killed UA civilians in nearly two years. Russia is doing this for UAs as much as for Russia's security ...and what do mean "imagine USA annexing Mexico"? how do you think California became a US State? USA has annexed a dozen states and nations.

[@backpackpepelon3867]

Well... US did annex part of mexico 😅

[@thomasthereal4067]

@@backpackpepelon3867 it was literally in 1846 - 1848

[@pite9]

USA toppled the elected president. Only afterwards did Russia intervene. What do you think USA would do if Russia put in a Russia-loyalist in Mexico?

[@salj.5459]

USA is 100x more aggressive than Russia. Look at all the conflicts they started in Latin America and the Carribean, not to mention all the other wars they started all over the world. Aside from that, that's not what started the war in Ukraine

[@kochetovalex]

12:00 - by the time of Minsk agreements Russia has ALREADY occupied and annexed Crimea. How can you trust such a person as Putin in the first place?!!! Don't you see how hipocrotical John Mearsheimer is suggesting this?!! Oh my god... It's so insane...

[@MrTL3wis]

If we went to Putin and told him that we weren't going to expand NATO, why would he believe us? We've been saying this since the early 90's while expanding NATO the entire time.

[@uschurch]

😂 old lies Russia broke every international agreement. Nobody will sign any deals with putin and his gang

[@murrygondwana7260]

Why practice martial arts if your policy is to just give bullies everything they want?

[@kleinenboese395]

Гони друзей, что предали однажды. кто предал раз, предаст тебя и дважды (Drive away your friends who betrayed you once. Who betrayed you once will betray you twice)...

[@MarcoMorandi-o4z]

When you make a mess under someone's windows, don't be surprised if a bucket of cold water gets on your head, you have to stop treating others as inferior beings.

[@yuriy5376]

That's right, russia will pay for the mess it created

[@techpriestdominus8611]

Exactly, Russia needs to f off and rethink their life.

[@taylenfaith4220]

😂😂 Lex still believes in Santa Claus

[@kendalljones5540]

one person may be able to trust another person, but unless that person has full control when they go back home it doesn't matter.

[@RSfailblog]

John needs to realize there will never be a neutral Ukraine. Whether or not its forced, the people will choose a side. They're not the Swiss. Ukraine needs foreign investment. If it won't be from the west, it will be from Russia. For the same reason there was never going to be a neutral Georgia. This war was imminent with or without NATO influence.

[@fungunsun1]

As a Ukrainian we cant be neutral because its matter of survival for us. Neutral just means Russia can attack us any time they want again. And no, its not chicken and egg, Russia has occupied and genocided us gazillion times in history

[@kdubs9111]

"How the nerd, who never fought outside protected rules, would LIKE the war to end"

[@chief8559]

No little buddy, that's how YOU want it to end. Currently Russia has succesfully slaughtered all the billions of dollar equipment at a fraction of a price. I know it's hard to look at the facts.

[@Akalashnik1]

Lexs wishful thinking is cute but completely unreal.

[@tomascc9367]

yeah agree, with Putin you cant "talk" or find a "way". Bully understands language of force only

[@Akalashnik1]

@@tomascc9367 when you’re the big dog, you don’t let the little dog bite your ankles with no repercussions. If that’s what a bully is then so be it.

[@tomascc9367]

@@Akalashnik1 how UKR was "biting"? why free choice of democratic society should be silenced by teroRussia?

[@esoteric_beta]

is Lex a big hearted, hopeless optimist... I feel I'm cynical after listening to him...

[@juancitogario787]

Even when it was explained to Lex what transpired with the Minsk Agreement, he still uttered those words of trust and human nature. I was waiting for John to say, “didn’t you hear what I just said about the Minsk agreement”?

[@Razaknight]

Yea and John was completely wrong about the Minsk agreement as it's seems you are

[@tomascc9367]

Minsk agreements were broken by both Sides. But must of escalation was made by RU side

[@Dodo-ym8cc]

Kiev refused to talk with the Donbass leaders about implementation of the Minsk agreements.

[@Dodo-ym8cc]

Merkel said in a newspaper magazine the Minsk agreement were meant to buy Kiev time and prepare for war.

[@tomascc9367]

@@Dodo-ym8ccin your conspiracy pedo-dreams vatnik. No proofs as always, tik-tok news lol

[@dankoppel6271]

During WW2, Hitler said that if only the British and French minded their own business, he could make nice little "deal" with the Poles. And that it was the British and French "interference" that kept this from happening. How similar that is to what Mearsheimer is saying.

[@Cryptantha]

I would like to see Mearsheimer, Sachs, and Chomsky living in Russia, their spiritual home.

[@fungunsun1]

Or at least turn on russian tv for fun. Like that alone is enough.

[@frostflower5555]

They speak the truth and I guess you don't like it?

[@Cryptantha]

@@frostflower5555 Mearsheimer speaks Putin's truth.

[@Big_Sloppa]

Putin's truth is still truth, don't like it - live in false.

[@PatrickMoog]

Is he the reincarnation of Chamberlain?

[@GairikGhosh]

I know Lex is playing devil's advocate, but from Russian view: Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

[@markmilan57]

As an outsider my advice would be you need a mediator, like china, outside of NATO who has nothing to do with that part of the world except business. Any NATO members would discard any peace proposal currently and goes for NATO expansion. Realization of mistakes is a good sign for future Peace.

[@monopalle5768]

Putin can make his own allies... But he can't determine mine.

[@Klovaneer]

China couldn't give two shits about peace in Ukraine. Firstly, Russia has already survived the sanctions, remains a great trading partner and is dependent on China more than ever. Secondly they are watching just how much does USA actually care about non-NATO allies. When they finish decoupling from US market and creating their own they will have all the cards to annex Taiwan.

[@abbcc555]

The problem with this distrust is that Putin is only disappointed because his next annexations were made more difficult. You don't negotiate with terrorists, you give an inch and they take a mile. Ukraine cannot be made "neutral", to Russia it means similar situation like Belarus. Again, you don't negotiate with terrorists. As long as Russia is an imperialist kleptocracy there is no other way for the west than to confine Russia. If it's not done, Russia will go further and further. It's pretty simple and sad.

[@ruiddd956]

Warmonger opinion.

[@abbcc555]

@@ruiddd956 So what you say is that Putin should be allowed to annex neighboring countries as he pleases? That is exactly what would happen, exactly that. Putin is known for _killing_ his opposition, he is not sane like you and me or the leaders in the civilized world.

[@MrPhillip-o5m]

​@ruiddd956 Everybody that doesn't agree with russian expansion is a warmonger.....

[@ljubomirculibrk4097]

Russia is cleptocracy? What are then US and UK? They are magnitude worse.

[@stephen1145]

12:54 Lex's idealistic naivete the professor finds comical. A constructivist tries to convince a realist that people are 'good' ha! Also, Lex is missing the fact that leaders are not acting as individuals, they embody their nations, and concomitantly its interests, therefore all of this claptrap about trust, and I think he's a good person and all this just does not come into the equation. Lex is way out of his element here.

[@SoB_626]

"they embody their nations" - do you think kim jong un embodies his nation?

[@yous2244]

​@@SoB_626yes

[@SoB_626]

@@yous2244 Ok then. How about the south koreans? Does kim jong un embodies them too since they're basically the same nation?

[@yous2244]

@@SoB_626 no because he's not their ruler, did you really take 2 weeks to give such a dumb reply🤦

[@Lyashin55]

IT'S THE MOST TRUSTFUL, OBJECTIVE AND HONEST ANALYSIS I HAVE EVER WATCHED FROM THE WEST SINCE THE BEGINNING OF CONFLICT FROM 2014 TILL NOW THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MEARSHEIMER, THANKS A LOT LEX. LOVE FROM ISTANBUL

[@marci811]

Lex is so romantic. The man is so hopeful. He could be a divorce negotiator or a Pastor.

[@samsonyator2021]

I really admire this interviewer hope for humanity. But really feel sad for him because nature cant naturally exist with everyone being friends

[@Autumn572]

It can, but humans are too primitive

[@Aleksander1812]

Lex, you think Zelenskyy is control and not a puppet?

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

He’s independently wealthy. He made his fortune as an actor and a network owner and he sold his businesses before he ran for president. He has shown major spine in rooting out corruption among people who he personally knows. He refused to protect his old oligarch boss Kholomoisky from prosecution. He is a Ukrainian patriot despite the fact that he only spoke Russian until about 2 years ago. Of course Ukraine needs massive assistance from EU and US to survive this brutal invasion. So he’s got to grab ankles in order to do right by the population. He didn’t start this fight. He’s willing to do whatever it takes to achieve victory over fascism though.

[@techpriestdominus8611]

@@TobiasC-mg4zk thanks. This comm sections is full of shills. Finally an educated reposnse.

[@dontshootthemessengr-j3i]

You cant conquer a country unless you somehow get rid of its population, but Hitler always intended to invade the Soviet union, the only reason why he invaded poland was to get a direct boarder with Russia, poland wouldn't allow hitler passage through poland, so he invaded them instead he only invaded france because they declared war on Germany he didn't want war with france or Britain and Britain especially...

[@masterroshi8812]

lex is living in a fantasy land, that's not the real world works buddy, didn't you read history.

[@Superintendent8814]

If you read any history at all it shows that interpersonal relationships between leaders means absolutely nothing. I mean just look at WW1 as a prime example.

[@achoice2bmade]

How it started: "Soon, you will be one of us" (NATO, EU, THE COLLECTIVE WEST) How it's gone: "Soon, you will be one of us" (Syria, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq)

[@MiS-jy4gm]

@13:50 exactly what happened to Slobodan Milosevic from Serbia, he trusted in negotiations with NATO and look what happened to him.

[@samuelbell626]

I need to listen to this whole conversation because this snippet is hard to take seriously. Always like to give Lex the benefit of the doubt tho

[@lylewalker5681]

Why give him the benefit of the doubt on this? He doesn’t deserve it, that’s for sure. And I’m not hating, I’m just stating an objective fact. He’s been crappy on Ukraine for the entire fucking war, let’s just call a spade a spade.

[@samuelbell626]

Yea I do agree with you on that, he's been so disappointing to listen too.@@lylewalker5681

[@junk4dimeji]

Don’t bother watching the entire conversation. It does not get any better.

[@hrissan]

I stopped taking Lex seriously after he dismissed facts about Ukrainian war and narrated mainstream line.

[@garettjames6349]

You should watch the whole thing. It's very good for Americans to hear clear and real information from a dispassionate source like Mearshiemer.

[@johnnie5442]

Weren't the British the ones to push military aid for Ukraine in March-April of 2022?

[@thrackl3]

I would be interested to understand how a neutral Ukraine is supposed to work. If all Russia wants is a neutral Ukraine, give the Oblasts back in exchange for such an agreement.

[@emanuelsarimanolis2400]

It won’t work, Mr. mearsheimer has been wrong a large part of the time since the beginning of the full scale invasion so he’s not this great prognosticator. In addition the myth that there was negotiations in March that would stop the conflict has been so unbelievable, Russia was still convinced Ukraine would cave, why negotiate? All Russia did was give ultimatum. It’s a big lie

[@Big_Sloppa]

It's entirely obvious neutral Ukraine is not existing Ukraine at this point 🤷‍♂️

[@tandrew0ate]

Just how it existed for 20 years. It was pretty damn neutral. There was peace, economic stability, no hatred between nations. Now what’s done done. No one’s getting territories back.

[@curious.lad.369]

That agreement was on table before russia entered war, that agreement was on table even in march 2022, us said no to that peace agreement even though ukraine accepted it. That agreement is no longer on table

[@elochukwunwolisa6803]

​@@curious.lad.369that's not what the deal was about maybe go and read the Istanbul deal yourself

[@craig74100]

Zelensky (the PUPPET) is too indebted to the AXIS i mean the ALLIES already.. so Lex... you are talking of a possibility that happens in a parallel universe somewhere.. definitely NOT here

[@semina5]

Something that hasn't been brought up: Zelensky won the presidential election in 2019 by a HUGE landslide! Over 70%! And not only that, but Zelensky won in almost ALL the regions of Ukraine, except for the L'viv region, and maybe one other next door. The reason for the landslide? Zelensky PROMISED to end the civil war in the Donbass! in effect, Zelensky had a MANDATE to implement the Minsk Accords, which were UNANIMOUSLY approved by the UN Security Council!!! Zelensky actually got down on his knees promising peace, during a televised debate before the entire country! So, how can Zelensky ever be trusted again?

[@chrisfung1607]

Say it convincingly like how they said the Minski 1 and 2?

[@Hassan_Rajput_PAS]

6:00 / 15:28 23 per cent of Ukraine land The speaker suggests that Ukraine should become neutral and completely sever all security ties with the West, and Ukraine should accept the fact that Russia will not give back the four oblas it has annexed - territorial status quo. Mearsheimer also notes that the EU's expansion into the region is problematic for Russia, as it is seen as a potential threat to NATO expansion, and that establishing healthy economic relationships between Ukraine and the West is possible, but depends on reaching an agreement on territorial issues. Ultimately, Mearsheimer argues that leadership matters and that it is possible for individual human relations to counteract the structural forces at play, but that it will require trust and cooperation among all parties involved.

[@maxodgaard1335]

John apparently accepts Russia dictates Ukraine security, which I find odd.......

[@kasparsvirbulis365]

Putin has true belief he will restore "Russian Empire", to start with. Putin was testing west in Georgia before 2014. No decent reaction from West. Then he tested in 2014 in Ukraine. No decent reaction form West in forms of sanctions etc. Then he was mentally getting ready for something bigger. It was difficult decision, even if they planned to occupy Kyiv and swap the regime to their people that was already in their way to Ukraine. But things turned out differently. And here we are.

[@RobbWolfVideos]

Fascinating and depressing. Also, infuriating what the US did here.

[@rogueagent0191]

whats even worst is people barely talk about it. Americans love to portray themselves as the savior

[@JohnK004]

@@rogueagent0191 because they are, Americans could destroy the world or colonize it after WW2 being the sole SUPERPOWER with NUCLEAR weapons, yet they did not, so they are indeed saviors, while ruzzia is a shithole country about to be split into multiple banana republics, next is Iran and then the Chinazi, and so the world becomes a NATO vassal, guess your beloved eastern "leaders" were nothing more than arrogant muppets.

[@michelschimek8648]

Point added to prior post on Trump: Trump doesn't like NATO. Putin doesn't like NATO. Deal = so easy. Trump does something about NATO to make Putin happy, Putin does something to reciprocate. So easy and obvious. Could be this or something else.

[@jasonb111222]

3:40 In every peace talk ever between leaders, they always come away with that "tremendous progress was made"; this line of thought isn't a useful anecdote.

[@ot44eto]

This clip have my blood boil from indignation. People forget that his is not a conflict, it's war of conquest by Russia. Give them land and say f to a world order where borders are respected. Is this the world that we want to live in?

[@melvynobrien6193]

NONSENSE. You clearly know little other than the propaganda fed to you by the evil western warmongers. Wake up.

[@christianpervert525]

ot44eto- The only proven "expansionist" here, is the US and NATO. Look at a NATO map made in 1990 and then now and I think even you would be surprised.