Lexus GS F V8 FULL REVIEW test driven Autobahn Sound & Acceleration 2017 - Autogefühl

[@maxtroy8511]

This car will not be bought by the individual who needs to explain the reason for his/her purchase (0-60 times, horsepower bragging rights, nurburgring lap times, "brand prestige", etc). It will be bought by the individual who wants a fast, comfortable, quality, great sounding and reliable car. Good job Lexus.

[@t-bone9239]

People who buy that want to brag about they supposedly don't need to brag

[@dragospahontu]

@@t-bone9239 Poor people drive a Mercedes Benz, wealthy people buy a Lexus

[@2URGSE]

Well Said !!! 👏👏

[@ghchen1119]

Lexus = absolutely best reliability, no comparison.

[@dragospahontu]

Honda

[@ghostridertom]

@@dragospahontu Honda not anymore. Stil good but this GS and V8 is over the top reliable. Got multiple iterations of this drivetrain, absolutely great (IS F, RC F, GS F).

[@milenkoboljevic4247]

German car industry in terms of design and technology is absolutely dominant. The only non German brand who has been a true competition is the Lexus. Lexus is the best what Japan has to offer and I really love their products. They are not that attractive and don't have a WoW effect like German models,but Lexus has one thing what others don't have,and that is Quality. Lexus is still number one when it comes to quality, and quality is very important today. It is understandable that in any new Mercedes,Bmw,Porsche, there is a lot of software,electronics, cables and it cannot last forever. Lexus also has similar to offer but obviously Japanese know how to make best quality product all these years. Great job,no doubt.

[@astrogen1960]

Thomas, I believe Lexus' normally aspirated engines use both direct and port injection. This is ideal, because you'll have a more efficient burn, but maintain cleaner intake valves than with the direct injection alone.

[@autogefuehl]

thats right!

[@astrogen1960]

Thomas, I've been wondering about the water injection that BMW has implemented for the M4 GTS. Do you know if it is for rectifying this problem, or is it a way to just cool, or make some other improvement to the air/fuel mixture and improve atomization? For years, It used to be added to carburetors to occasionally manually squirt water for the purpose of cleaning the intake valves, but I'd really like to know more about BMW's design. Thank you.

[@gdwfs]

How about reviewing a 20 year old Lexus and a similarly used euro car to see which has lasted better?

[@asianskywalker]

Haha agreed.. they never talk about reliability. I'de take a used Lexus over a used German car anyday.

[@MrHitman246]

gdwfs If they pointed that out lol would be comic

[@pilnystudent4]

20 years old Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, Mercedes made in Germany have better build quality than Lexus. Back then every engine was designed to last 500 000 km. There are many cars from this era with more than milion km.

[@djoetma]

pilnystudent4 this is not true. Yes others make reliable cars as well, but it's known that Lexus is in a class of it's own. There are stories known of how Mercedes brought a LS to their factory to check out the new competitor and the engineers were really impressed by the engineering behind the Lexus.

[@waelmkaouar396]

pilnystudent4 Ford lasts 20years??????? LMAO

[@That8oySimba9302]

This is a looong review. This is type of review I need when I'm thinking of buying a car. Glad i found this channel 👍

[@autogefuehl]

stick with us !

[@JC130676]

German sports cars are like a moody secretary: one day she'll do an outstanding job, the next she might be extremely cranky and not work at all. Lexus is more like an experienced butler: you can ask him the craziest things and he won't even blink, he just gets the job done calmly and efficiently every time.

[@petitflocon647]

After 1 week of use, the mouse control have became natural. Just a question of time.

[@dragospahontu]

It is designed to kill you

[@gogagoxy]

Great review as usual Thomas! The car is simply awesome. It has better engine sound than any German car in that segment that's for sure. Dramatic look but still very nice! Also, V8 naturally aspirated... very rare nowadays.

[@mariobanovic8378]

lexus for life....better than audi

[@SEBKAL]

I wish audi designed Lexus cars especially the exterior otherwise its a brilliant car 👍

[@dragospahontu]

@@SEBKAL i like Audi more

[@petitflocon647]

Now Lexus got many haters because it have a strong design identity.

[@philard]

He didn't make a single positive comparison. But made around 20 negative comparisons to German cars. Nothing about reliability. But did provide a number of useful details.

[@autogefuehl]

I often say that lexus is the most reliable

[@koichi.k1161]

"door closing sound"? Solid, not good? No mention in this. Sounded really solid, I've driven a GS and I know how solid it is.

[@petitflocon647]

the sound is superb

[@gildasgautier8323]

Such a nice review again ! I must admit this lexus is quite desirable..

[@asianskywalker]

Thomas why don't you ever talk about superior Japanese Lexus reliability over german brands? ;)

[@farisselimovic4614]

asianskywalker hahahahahah true I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING TO DO BEACAUSE HE IS GERMAN LOL

[@djoetma]

asianskywalker you can't prove this in a review. This is also why most others don't mention it either.

[@waelmkaouar396]

asianskywalker he doesn't have to talk about it, everyone knows it.

[@tacosr]

Because that doesn't exist!

[@SDav21]

Are you from the US? I only ever see people from the US say it is reliable. In other countries it doesn't seem to have this reputation? I for one can say that our neighbour's C180 Kompressor was more reliable than my aunt's IS250. Her IS250 had issues with the xenon lights not leveling, faulty subwoofer wiring and a touch screen that needed replacing because it just stopped working. The only thing on the C180 which had many more kilometers on the clock...a broken clip on the interior armrest.

[@Billfish57]

The Lexus won't break down, that makes it the winner for me.

[@sleepygamer5590]

Great review. I never expected this car to have a NA engine, but like you said this is going to be one of the very few left on the market as everyone else is going with Turbos, Diesel, etc.... I like the engine sound, but that is my opinion since it will keep me more entertained than listening to my music. Cheers.

[@autogefuehl]

Cheers!

[@dragospahontu]

Last N/A engine

[@mfmf100]

Great car overall, love the engine - nearly 100 hp/liter for a NA engine that size is really impressive, even if face is controversial and some interior/packaging elements a bit dated.

[@Skare147]

mfmf100 Yeah nice car if it stands by itself. But compared to the competition it's quite underwhelming.

[@gordonbennett6057]

Really enjoyed this car Review as always. (A Lexus! The narrow-minded whingers can't complain that you only test VW Group products, Thomas! Anyway, we Autogefuhl followers realise the situation with manufacturers. And also respect the fact that you are impartial, unbiased). Great car, and if you want something different. I like the integrated infotainment display but shame it doesn't work perfectly. I love the big V8 and the noise and sound effects. Slalom mode sounds interesting, if a little complicated. Many thanks Thomas & team.

[@autogefuehl]

if only more people were like u !

[@gordonbennett6057]

+Autogefuhl - No, if only more people were like you (and your Team).

[@Dr23rippa]

Soon as I see this man 40:00 mins and a car I know Im going to see a review!

[@boris.m2624]

Reliable car.

[@worldolivier]

Love this car

[@MrMustangrick]

Thomas really doesn't like Lexus cars at all. Definite European/German bias.

[@djoetma]

MrMustangrick He really isn't saying anything most other journalists aren't saying either.

[@arisporrazzo4268]

Thank you Thomas great selection for this review.

[@autogefuehl]

always a pleasure.

[@MrCarGuy]

And the engine will last for 500k + hard miles.

[@RK1FX]

Far more than that.

[@anismirawi]

the lexy is a very beautifull car

[@heartcomedy5]

Lexus creates the best sports cars because they are safe, reliable and comfortable

[@rondhole]

First generation 30 years Lexus LS400 are still roaming around like cockroaches. Never die

[@dragospahontu]

This GSF is so cool

[@rondhole]

@@dragospahontu But Toyota will discontinue all V8 cars, replace it with V6 turbos with dual injection (carbon build up is not a problem). Out of RCF, GSF, ISF, and LC500 with V8, I believe only LC500 is the only high performance line for mass market. LC500 takes a lot of technology from legendary LFA that cost more than $500k used. RCF is cheaper and as fast as GSF, they are loud because design that way. V8 and V10 drivers want to hear their engine sounds. If you like muted, numb driving, Lexus ES V6 is the best value

[@dragospahontu]

@@rondhole i like Turbo engines, but also N)A engines are cool. Like Camry V6 3.5

[@rondhole]

@@dragospahontu When turbo engine is made right and reliable like 90s Volvo or Diesel Land Cruiser, yes, they are good. But when it drink engine oil like cammel and kill Catalytic converter, that's easily $3k repair. Unfortunately, so far VW and BMW do not do a good job in their Turbo engines in terms of reliability.

[@dragospahontu]

@@rondhole Toyota 2.4L from 2009-2012 drank so much oil. I think the new 1.5 ea211 Evo from Volkswagen is in the right direction.

[@grdixon83]

Anyone else think Lexus should enter the DTM alongside AUDI, Mercedes, & BMW? I think there brand would benefit, especially if they won some races.

[@Xscrambler]

G Dixon possible. Now that CLK GTR is gone to pension some years ago, Lexus might have a chance.

[@vicalam]

As an ex-GS owner I'm pretty sure the windshield is double paned, however I'm not sure about the side windows thought because some GS come with double pane side windows but some don't.

[@dragospahontu]

Mercedes E-Class👌

[@alexanderp5612]

Great review as always Thomas. Even though i was looking for standard GS 300h with 181hp. Maybe that would be more relevant for middle class. I consider to change my Honda Accord VIII 2.4atm

[@JC130676]

Don't bother with the GS 300h. The smaller engine has to work a lot harder even in normal driving so you're not really getting the fuel economy benefit you'd expect. You're better off getting the GS 450h, similar fuel economy with much better performance and it sounds nicer as well. I did a test drive in a GS 300h first but after five minutes in a GS 450h I had made my decision. I've had mine for two years now and I'm still as happy as on day one.

[@alexanderp5612]

JC130676 , thanks for valuable experience. Yes, more powerful engine is cool but then some extra costs step in (insurance, ownership tax etc.). Agree with you as powerful engine gives lots of advantages on the road. Great car.

[@JC130676]

@@alexanderp5612 In that case don't bother with the GS, go for the ES 300h instead. It's got about as much power but is slightly lighter, has better fuel economy and it's got a little more space in the rear. I drove one for a day (loaner while my GS was being serviced) and it's a good car. Wouldn't trade it for my GS though. One thing that surprised me was how much bigger the turning circle of the ES is, at times it felt like I was driving an ocean steamer. Actually it's not that bad for a car of that size but the GS has a really tight turning circle so I guess I'm spoiled. ;-)

[@corpnupe85]

Great review! Besides the bembo brakes, V8 and the torque vectoring what is difference between the GS F and the GS 350 F-Sport?

[@AbzAden]

John Green I think u answered ur own question but definitely the V8 is major selling point...I too I’m considering the GS350 F Sport AWD but my heart says get the V8 lol

[@ThePixelize]

Seriously, who likes this abomination of an exterior? I do give them kudos for the interior (with the exception of the steering wheel and the red parts in the door openers. That looks cheap!). I especially love how they integrated the infotainment display into the dash, and the interesting shadows this casts.

[@johnspence2630]

N/a V8 check. Looks, check. Tech, who cares, verdict....getting it.

[@Skare147]

Hey Thomas, what do you think about the Kia Stinger? Interior looks nice and the exterior is just insane eventhough it is controversial. I'm quite excited for it and hope you guys can get your hands on one this year :)

[@autogefuehl]

will check it out this week

[@mrmementofinis]

Dream car:) And what about Mark Levinson (best sound sys.)? Lexus>Audi, Merc, BMW for me ofc:)

[@BigMadmax91]

@@ihugun The combination between Lexus and Mark Levinson is a garant for constant high audio quality in ALL Lexus cars. This is the difference between Mark Levinson and other brands like B&O or B&W.

[@YungMerlyn]

Thomas please do LEXUS LC!!!

[@bodbad5022]

weißt du irgendetwas über den volvo c90 coupè also wann der rauskommt usw. ? :)

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

Respect for taking about the emissions, thumbs up. By the way, the GS F has a combined direct + indirect injection, when it runs on the indirect one it produces far less particles. The Infiniti Q50 Hybrid would also be very interesting, it's even cleaner since it has no direct injection at all, maybe you can review a Q50 Hybrid.

[@dragospahontu]

Infiniti 👎

[@juliusopmn7488]

Hast du wirklich so viel zeit um jeden tag ein Video zu einem Auto zu drehen? Ich meine das braucht ja zeit (drehen, schneiden, hochladen) und dann auch noch an die Autos ran zukommen um überhaupt ein Review zu drehen.. Aber das macht du (ggf. ihr) echt gut!!😉👌🖒

[@autogefuehl]

in der Tat ist das ein 24/7 job und die Organisation muss sehr gut laufen, damit wir das alles auf die Reihe bekommen.

[@Skare147]

Julius Oppermann Er ist ja zum Glück nicht allein. Die arbeiten vermutlich immer schön vor damit immer was da ist :) Gerade auf Messen sieht man ja, dass dann viele Videos an ein oder zwei Tagen gedreht werden und dann über eine Woche lang ausgestrahlt werden.

[@autogefuehl]

ist bei den Dateigrößen auch kaum anders möglich, die Sachen müssen ja auch geschnitten, exportiert und hochgeladen werden.

[@uYahbonaEmbo]

Very through review , however i was not happy when it was tested on the Autobahn this should hammered the car to its top speed , also the tunnel scene was wack he should have tested that load V8 sound. but overall from a German guy it was a very detail review well done.

[@autogefuehl]

safety first - I wont risk anything just to show a max. speed

[@davidbluhm1867]

The Lexus is just so much more reliable. The Merc & BMW can not touch that.

[@dragospahontu]

If you maintain it properly it's ok

[@acericoniadak]

Hi Thomas, I see you last video was deleted what happen, And did planed the review of the Volvo V90 cross country. Thanks.

[@autogefuehl]

+Sawers Iconia aj is doing the cc this week!

[@aryapradhanad186]

Failed drift attempt at 0:50 :D

[@1094362722gb]

We know ur favourite word is "Interesting "now...

[@carloscampos-kl2kl]

I love this car but everyone always says reliable with every Lexus car, is it really reliable or they assume because it's a Lexus?

[@setugupta8490]

Look at the way the exhaust are positioned?!

[@Itaintyouitsme]

28:13 Wow! Go Speed Racer Go!!!

[@profibuzs]

Hi thomas..can u compare the comfort,sound insulation between CLS400 and lexus GSF?

[@autogefuehl]

the Merc should lead that

[@profibuzs]

Thank you Thomas

[@dragospahontu]

@@profibuzs Mercedes is betetr

[@medellon]

Looks like Lexus is falling behind the competition, time for an update. Good and thorough review regardless.

[@petitflocon647]

James E. they will change totally GS in 2 years.

[@petitflocon647]

My dealer Lexus told me that in 2 years the GS will totally change.

[@6th.replicant577]

Tedious! Why do you bother reviewing anything made by Lexus? You are always so pedantic and hyper-critical - eg, the blue trim on the engine cover doesn’t match the colour of the car, oh no! The reason? The shade of blue on the engine cover is the F Sport signature / brand colour. If the car were red, it would have the same blue trim on the engine cover. And why do you never acknowledge Lexus’s superior build quality and craftsmanship compared to BMW, Mercedes, Audi or Jaguar? At 160,000km an M5 would be an unreliable money pit that also needs an engine rebuild; at 200,000km a GSF would need nothing more than standard servicing and be as reliable as a Blancpain.

[@dragospahontu]

These are new cars, we can't talk about reliability. The shade of blue from the engine clashes with the outside color. He should review old cars i agree.

[@TyrantTitan.]

u ok?

[@koichi.k1161]

He definitely has an issue with Lexus or maybe Japanese as a whole. I've noticed him mention the treatment of employees where the cars are built. Never heard any criticism of the German car plants in the China and Mexico. Its just unnecessary nonsense that he mentions, criticising the alignment of the bagdes which is often deselected anyway.

[@TheRorymcloughlin]

Sorry Thomas, I am unsubscribing, this review is not VW Audi Merc or BMW, you have such a bias for Japanese cars

[@autogefuehl]

haha =)

[@PaulBasikila]

R Mac hahahaha..well said mate...Thomas is the most impartial reviewer. And I know your comment is a tongue in cheek comment 😁

[@revoltoff]

Bro when will you switch to 4K recording?

[@autogefuehl]

Well first now, beginning with the next full review, we will present you everything in 60p - that will look even more fluid and especially honours American friends who are watching Autogefühl on a TV. As for 4K, I do not want to abandon 50/60p, and most cameras cannot make both yet. Plus, those are tremendous data rates and you would also need to upgrade production equipment ... plus uploading times / bandwidth which is limited. And then is the question ... who could stream 4K ?

[@revoltoff]

Get a RED camera lol. As for the streaming part, most people in Europe/VS can nowadays , internet speeds have doubled since 2014. I know the data is a huge issue but tbh HDD's are becoming sooo cheap and SSD's too. IMO 60fps is a gimmick for videos like this , 29.97 is more than enough, I mean, what are you trying to show lol... a bird flying or perhaps a game? No. I would MUCH prefer 4K but I perfectly understand the investment is kinda hard. And p.s. what do you mean by that the American viewers are watching it on their TV's lol.. Us Europeans don't have a TV or something haha :P

[@marinoint]

I'd never buy this car or most Lexus, because they have became very ugly over the years. (The previous two generations of Lexus SC coupes were quite attractive, especially for their eras.) The only reason I click on this video and thumbed up, is to support Autogefühl. I really appreciate the effort you put in to create these detailed reviews.

[@whatisthisevenfor26]

from what I was told lexus an Toyota are different now they are their own division now not same

[@InteriorDesignAnderson]

Akirah Shamie this GS was made during the Toyota influence and the later models such as the new LS are now now part of a more independent Lexus.

[@seikocitizenwatches]

LEXUS LEXUS LEXUS Fine wine 🍷 Lexus Over Premium milk 🥛

[@ast5515]

This car makes 19 inch wheels look small.

[@66karim66]

Nice channel only the drift was bad in the beginning hhhha

[@Sevy89]

Music wants to keep playing at 5:05 xD

[@Sevy89]

Good review like always nevertheless !

[@Toyota4Life]

you need to be more enthusiastic

[@penvon]

Toyota4Life I know,I almost dozed off for a minute there.

[@ИванПетров-ю7й1м]

noise insulation is missing?

[@stalefish85]

Lexus seriously need to upgrade that antiquated steering wheel design

[@donelmediterraneo8626]

It's Thomas blue !!!

[@autogefuehl]

indeed!

[@omarcarnegie346]

test drive. the. 2018 ls 500 f sport

[@hermitld]

$100K too rich for my blood!

[@Sepolden]

Years ago i was a huge fan of Toyota and Lexus - esp. Lexus obviously. They do last forever, and are very very reliable compared to German cars. However I have come to realize that there is a difference between electrical engineering (go Japanese) and mechanical engineering (go Germans). After years and years of looking at the differences, the Germans, as a general rule, are better mechanical engineers. You can argue that point ad nauseam, but 99% of motor journalists say German cars set the standard for driving pleasure and a nice solid feel.. They cannot ALL be biased....if you think YOU are right and THEY are ALL wrong, well - that's ok too (I guess?!). The reality is, better chassis and suspensions translate into a better driving experience. (And Safety - its only recently that the Japanese are closing the crash safety gap - go onto IIHS and see for yourself. One thing I will say, today - Lexus IS designing stunning interiors and the design language is pretty stunning!

[@stressedhaish69420]

6:07 the steering wheel wobbles? 🤨

[@firasatali8813]

Can u plz do a Suzuki Ignis review? ?

[@zikzaki7253]

In death car refuse 😂😂

[@danI43541]

Naja irgendwie wirkt das Auto teilweise wie gewollt und nicht gekonnt bzw irgendwie eine Mischung aus teuer, hochwertig und billig.. ich weiß nicht warum und es mag nicht stimmen aber vom ersten Eindruck her mag ich den nicht.. aber die Sitze sehen gut aus und die Türinnenseiten auch!!

[@MrSpeedy99]

How come the wheels on the GS-F are so tiny in Germany? Everywhere else I have seen them they have the larger alloys.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

Can you review a Ford Mustang Shelby GT 350?

[@billybob1511]

Latest E-class is quieter on the motorway?

[@autogefuehl]

Yes

[@JULIAN71102]

Only selling point of this car is the engine, because the germans are just much better in every way

[@petitflocon647]

Julian J lol hater spotted.

[@JULIAN71102]

loo lolo if u had any knowledge about cars you wouldn't see me as a hater, can you tell me in what the GS is better than the german rivals,

[@JULIAN71102]

loo lolo ?

[@netweed09]

they gave it a good shot and it's modern and sounds great for sure but, in end it looks as if it's insides are melting out of the grille, sorry it's hideous lol

[@SDav21]

Lexus design doesn't make sense. The front is a mish mash of sharp creases and protruding edges then the side profile has none of this. So it is like one person designed the front. another the side and another the back. Oh and the awful 90s look interiors with bad screen graphics are not good at all. It is full of Toyota bits in there. If they want to compete with the German manufacturers, they need better, more cohesive design and bespoke switchgear not shared with a sad Corolla.

[@petitflocon647]

SDav21 make perfect sens. All is logical if you read the designers choices... did you did it? no.. of course no...

[@ramanjitsingh4340]

dont judge on the youtube mate

[@sjmedia_official]

I like Lexus, but design of this one not so much, lights are a bit weird, side profile feels too mixed, and that alcantara piece on the top of the dashboard is done very badly..

[@paddifexka3188]

the Exhaust Pipes Look very unpleasent

[@joeblack5421]

gaudy, comes to mind.

[@SDav21]

The interior is just shockingly bad. This looks like a car from 10 years ago versus the German interiors. And why must it make a beep beep sound when selecting everything and starting. This car is definitely made for the US. Lexus needs a new GS. But if the new GS is going to be similar to the new LS then I don't know because the new LS isn't exactly a looker and nor does its interior look any better. And why is the wifi box just plopped in there like an afterthought?

[@o.t7351]

Typisch Neidgesellschaft ...

[@jamesoneill1840]

Looks 10 years out of date inside and outside

[@mxm.s]

But it will outlast every single BMW, Merc and Audi

[@zainag]

Lol Thomas in a GS F gets cut off by a Ford Transit :) With regards to reliability - the only car that didn't last me more than 75K miles was a Toyota Corolla - so I'm a little skeptical of Japanese reliability claims. Audi is at number 3 in Consumer Reports for reliability and I must say the interior of my '17 A4 is miles ahead of the IS and GS IMHO.

[@KL_Stereo]

Too much going on styling-wise, seems they just crammed every shape and material that they could come up with into the car

[@phicollins8934]

It's lacking something ,

[@LL-fy8qf]

eh, it looks like cheap honda, id rather have honda than this

[@petitflocon647]

Luck Lucky troll kid spotted.

[@penvon]

L L No,you can only AFFORD a CHEAP Honda so that’s why you’d get it.

[@motzi6]

such an ugly car das ist ein dummes Auto

[@stefanwimmer4852]

Awful design!

[@djoetma]

Stefan Wimmer I don't particularly like it either. However as Lexus, they need to do something different, because realistically they aren't going to beat the three big ones.

[@stefanwimmer4852]

L.GH. Djoetma You're right. But in my opinion they could have differentiated in a better way. Especially the side view and the rear view is terrible.

[@tsx3158]

Usually design grow on you and you may learn to accept them even if you don't like them. This car has been out for a while and I still hate the design. Some have mentioned interior quality being superior. Yes Lexus interior is always extremely high quality. However design and tech in this case is extremely poor for the class and price point.

[@petitflocon647]

Haters nest 😁

[@64hawki]

not a lover of Lexus ugly over priced Toyota

[@waelmkaouar396]

Richard Hawkins Toyota #1 :) too bad.

[@djoetma]

Overpriced? Why?

[@tinyhotopicbitch]

It's neither of those.

[@petitflocon647]

Richard Hawkins / hater child spotted 🙈🙉🙊💩💩💩

[@european1114]

German cars Much better 👍🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪😁

[@mrmementofinis]

No:)

[@ramanjitsingh4340]

it depends how you compare them

[@zz1x3r68pk3xxx]

Not sure about the looks, I think the older ones look better. A bit too much of everything. Also some of the buttons and vents look like they are from 90's Toyota :)

[@zz1x3r68pk3xxx]

The digital instruments look awesome, reminds me of LFA.