Lexus IS250 DIY Big Brake 14" BBK Upgrade | OEM F-Sport GS350 RC350 Caliper Rotors | BREMBO What?

Installing Lexus GS350/RC350/GS200t F-Sport calipers and 14" 2-piece rotors.
Check out other three paint and prep videos I have in this series to see the condition before I got them paint ready.
Caliper Prep: • Lexus Rear Brake Calip...
Rear Rotor Prep: • Lexus Rear Brake Calip...
Painting: • Lexus F-Sport DIY Brak...
My Total Costs:
CALIPERS $200 (junk yard)
PADS (LOW DUST) $60 (ebay.to/30WFNkM)
ROTORS (2-PIECE) $650 (ebay.to/3C9h92S)
IS-F SHIELDS $70 (Lexus Dealer 47781-53050, 47782-53050)
STOPTECH 950.44003 $60 (ebay.to/3NaLS5Y)
STOPTECH 950.44504 $50
PAINT (BASECOAT) $40 (online touchup paint site)
2K CLEARCOAT $22 (amzn.to/3ccIS3w)
F-SPORT DECAL $8 (ebay.to/3qYxcKU)
FLUID DOT 3 $8 (walmart)
GRAND TOTAL $1,000
For this "big brake" upgrade, I used OEM rotors but you can do it using basic coated 1-piece cast rotors that are made by Centric GCX for $130/set or the better "premium" 120-series which are $180/set.
Centric 356mm aftermarket rotors - ebay.to/43IxU0t
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0:00 Intro to BBK
2:05 Caliper/Rotor Setup
5:20 Rear Caliper Assembly
6:25 F-Sport Calipers/Decals
8:35 Rotor Overview/Options
10:50 Rear Stoptech Stainless Lines
15:30 Front Caliper/Hub Removal
18:20 IS250/350/F-Sport Weigh In
23:00 Front Drivers Brake Install
27:20 Front Passenger Brake Install
28:30 Bleeding Calipers
30:00 Test Fit OEM 18" Wheels
32.20 Total Costs
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[@aleksislionakis]

This would have been an expensive / time consuming mistake had it not been for this video. Thank you!

[@pirihern9329]

My wife has the 2011 lexus is250, my daughter has the 2015 gs 350 f sport. Thanks for helping me mmaintain their cars. I'm good on my 06 subie sti not so good with the Lexus cars.

[@johnsheehe3690]

Just got my rc 350 f sport calipers in the mail, happy to say the test fit with the oem 5 spoke 18” wheels cleared with wheel weights. They don’t have the same 1/4” step up as Binh’s oem wheels. Hope this helps someone!

[@jeffgrant7113]

Fantastic job! Awesome dedication to your IS Build. You certainly do pay attention to detail! I'm almost the same way! Lol. I have a 007 IS350 Build with Vossen 20" CV2 wheels and a RR-RACING big brake package on the back with the stoptech brake lines. I just purchased a set of R1 concept 13.1 carbon Geomet drilled and slotted directional front rotors. Running with BCOILOVERS with upgraded swift springs. THANKS FOR POSTING!! JEFF GRANT MOORESVILLE NC

[@tonyle7311]

It’s turn out very nice, now it’s make me want to upgrade my IS 350 brake

[@TunerwithKids]

easy swap for the 350 calipers, and cheap now.

[@tonyle7311]

Tuner with Kids i looked on ebay, but can not find any newer GS calipers, all i see is the one same with my Is 350 caliper

[@pirihern9329]

patience and determination. I. Getting there. I have the goodrich s.s. brake lines. Have not put on the sti yet

[@tennesseetreasures124]

I know a dude that would love those brakes that you're taking off😁

[@TunerwithKids]

I'll post them for sale once I clean them up. I'm debating having to package and ship them though since the cost to ship 75lbs isn't cheap and worth the effort considering the aftermarket cost of these isn't much these days.

[@alfonsoboyer3476]

@@TunerwithKids crap. I was about to ask you if you still have the 3is setup but i guess you sold them already?

[@Geyservillespeedshop]

if you ever have the brakes apart again, hit the kuckle with green scuff pad then steel wool and then use some aluminum polish and a budffer and that knuckle will be like a mirror! did that on my GS and think itd look good on you ride

[@TunerwithKids]

Yea next time I polish my wheel inner barrels

[@R0ll_lex]

On my 2015 gs350, Im doing the ISF front calipers which bolt on and use the oem f sport 2 piece rotors. I wish there was aftermarket replacement rings for the 2 piece oem rotors.

[@xxbowiexx]

Comprehensive video. I love it man. Great job

[@BLacknesmonstaz]

Great job man, i wish you were in my neighborhood :)

[@mckav2358]

This is a gr8 tip if u want to upgrade ur IS250 brakes excellent thanks

[@frankw3226]

Thanks for the very informative video. You didn't comment on how much improvement there was in the braking power or stopping power and the sensitivity of these brakes. Thanks.

[@TunerwithKids]

I didn’t see much difference but I went from IS350 13” to these 14” so not much change. Still same pads between both brakes.

[@aksprayz6855]

Beautiful beautiful beautiful work man. I love ur vids. Great info

[@omarizzat690]

Very cool stuff man!

[@JDavis-ul8qb]

Daaaang now that looks 🔥 man I just ordered the techstream and it's giving me trouble installing the mini vci software!

[@TunerwithKids]

you follow the online instructions? Try blog.obdii365.com/2019/06/06/install-toyota-techstream-v14-10-028-for-mini-vci/ or tech.memoryimprintstudio.com/how-to-setup-mini-vci-with-techstream-on-64bit-computer/

[@JDavis-ul8qb]

Thanks man will try it out!

[@kaveenr4280]

Love your vids, so informative!

[@leit013]

How did you prevent brake fluid from draining from banjo bolt?

[@bronxtaskforce01]

Can you do a video on upgrading wheels to a bigger size and recalibrate the cluster for a more accurate speed reading

[@TunerwithKids]

I have a video on 20” wheels but no need to recalibrate. Most of the time the overall diameter is with 5% to 10% of OEM and good enough.

[@sonson2669]

I have 1p of the 2014 is250 stock brake. I'm going to upgrade to 4p of the is350 but who says it doesn't make much difference? Is the performance really good?

[@TunerwithKids]

Bigger brakes don’t really feel much different during normal driving. But when they heat up and on track or aggressive driving they make a difference for brake fade.

[@sonson2669]

@@TunerwithKids Thank you for your answer. I also have an LS500, and the brake performance is very good It would be hard to compare 6P of LS500 and 4P of IS350, right? Currently, I only bought the IS350 caliper secondhand, but I'm a little worried whether I should install it or sell it. But it's sweet, so I think it'll be good to experience it

[@peewee2327]

You are the best 💪

[@hangx26hog86]

I have a 2006 Lexus GS300 Could I do this set up with the 14"rotors need help

[@TunerwithKids]

Yea. Perfect candidate. The 06 GS300 is the only 3GS that got screwed for the big front brakes. Rear is same as others though, just a slightly different caliper.

[@khushal0181]

What’s the best starting coils for 07 is250. Under 700$ lmk IS family

[@TunerwithKids]

Probably Megan’s but they are like $900

[@khushal0181]

Sweet

[@HunterLexus]

Can I assume the front GS 350 fsport RWD Calipers won't fit on my IS 250 AWD?

[@TunerwithKids]

Nope. The rotors don’t have the rear clearance for the axles. You can do IS350 using 2012 USA spec rotors. They are made to work on both RWD and AWD.

[@betosanz2359]

Nice job 👍🏼

[@sopondchuch3194]

One day my car will look exactly like yours minus the wheels lol

[@mon4gh4n101]

PLEASE ANSWER!! I have a 2006 Lexus is250 and am looking to do the is350 brake upgrade kit.The rear rotors are larger and the rear calipers are minimally different but I saw one example where the rear is350 caliper wasn't a direct bolt up to the is250 and the mounting bracket from the is250 had to be drilled and tapped to a different thread pattern to be able to bolt up the is350 rear caliper. Is the is350 rear caliper a direct bolt up? Or what needs to be done to modify it? Thanks in advance!

[@TunerwithKids]

Yea 350 loaded caliper is a bolt on. Must have the caliper and bracket for the 350. Need to modify the dust shield to fit 12” center rotors.

[@mon4gh4n101]

@@TunerwithKids Thanks so much! Really appreciate the help.

[@Twixx32]

Bro could you please share the paint code for that orange that's exactly the color I'm searching for my 350 calipers. Thanks & keep it up!

[@TunerwithKids]

Alex Duma Suzuki YAV. Burning Copper. Check my prep and paint videos. I have all the details there.

[@Twixx32]

@@TunerwithKidsthank you! Lucky to have found your channel!

[@RevLexus]

Great video!

[@Simplyshreddedpeeps]

Hey, I have a 2014 Lexus IS250 Base model, and I was wondering if the old caliper you have is going to fit in my lexus.

[@TunerwithKids]

All the 350 calipers used in IS,GS, and RC if all the 06-2021 IS250.

[@Simplyshreddedpeeps]

Do you mean it ‘fits’ the models from 06-2021? Sorry, might be a typo on your response or I might need clarification lol Thanks in advance!

[@TunerwithKids]

The larger 350 4-piston calipers fit ALL IS250 ever made. Need the matching rotors. If you are AWD, need 2012+ USA spec rotors.

[@dejuanru]

i got different numbers for the stainless lines, for my is250 it says that StopTech 950.44504 is the part number for my car. Are yours different for the 14" ?

[@TunerwithKids]

I just used what was listed for IS350/250. Not sure if ISF was different.

[@lostfrequency7055]

I want to upgrade my 250 brakes to 350 what do I need ? Jus the rotors ,calipers and pads or something else

[@TunerwithKids]

I actually have a video about it planned. But I originally did the DIY on ClubLexus. Check the parts list and links there. www.clublexus.com/forums/suspension-and-brakes/405811-is350-brake-upgrade-on-is250.html

[@lostfrequency7055]

Tuner with Kids thank you for the information

[@DefiningKicks]

Aren’t the oem brake lines Kevlar lined? Thus making the stainless steel kit not really needed? I could be wrong though idk.

[@TunerwithKids]

DefiningKicks , naw they are rubber hoses used in most all Lexus and Toyota.

[@pedromontes6776]

Came out so sick! Really motivating me to get on a big brake upgrade for sure 👏🏽Do stock 17inch is250 rims clear the 350 calipers and rotors or would you have to get 18s minimum ?

[@TunerwithKids]

pedro montes I’m not sure on the 17s. It might clear the is350 since the spare is a 17.

[@pedromontes6776]

Tuner with Kids gottcha I’ll prob get some rims before doing a brake upgrade just in case then

[@Twixx32]

@@pedromontes6776 Stock 17" rims do clear the IS350 calipers, just got the same setup.

[@pedromontes6776]

Alex Duma dope! Thanks for letting me know 👏🏽

[@pedromontes6776]

Tuner with Kids was also wondering if you’re selling the 350 set up?

[@ianhill9352]

Do you know if the 360mm isf discs will work with the calipers

[@TunerwithKids]

No. You need ISF hubs due to the offset difference.

[@ruthnoya8424]

Damn your car looks sick! Do you know if these will fit lobster claws on a 2010?

[@TunerwithKids]

Idk. It’s borderline on OEM 18s. 06-08 are a no. But people have fit 11+ FSport wheels so only way is to test fit on a GS350 Fsport.

[@RS-lt2ue]

Looking at those calipers and wonder if they could be used to upgrade a Sienna. Thoughts?

[@TunerwithKids]

Nope. But the new RX can. Check out 350phi.com

[@RS-lt2ue]

@@TunerwithKids thanks!

[@jasonablah7702]

How much should you pay a mechanic to put on this kit?

[@TunerwithKids]

For a mechanic, basically the cost of a brake job with rotors, calipers, and fluid change. I don’t pay people for that type of work so IDK.

[@luisfigueroa8394]

Nice work! What year range GS350 are those calipers from?

[@TunerwithKids]

2012+ gs350 F-sport. RWD only

[@jlhowser]

will the OEM 17" rims clear with the IS350 calipers and rotors? BTW this is the BEST IS channel EVER!!!!

[@TunerwithKids]

Yea. Barely fits but word is that 17s for the IS will clear not sure about other OEM 17s.

[@nono_ct200]

Looks good 😍

[@mobshipa187]

Dope like what you did I bought the Gsf brakes from Lexus new want to do it myself on my 15 gs350f how hard is it to do?

[@TunerwithKids]

Bolt on. For GSF brakes since they didn’t mess with hub space.

[@suhnebasi5492]

i have a 2015 IS 250 and im looking to install the brembo GT bbk. my frpmt rotors are 15' and the rears are like 13.6' can i use the dust shields for the RCF?

[@TunerwithKids]

Not sure how the 2015 shields are mounted.

[@Gdesign07]

Great job & attention to detail. I have 08 is250 AWD. What year did you get the calipers from? want to do this same set up.

[@TunerwithKids]

AWD can not do this cause of the rotors. You can do IS350 calipers using 2012+ rotors which work on both AWD and RWD.

[@haydenlee6365]

can i have the part no of the brake pad and repair kit of gs350f caliper 356mm

[@TunerwithKids]

Brake pads all same for IS350 GS350, etc. the 13” and 14” use same pads. Also check description box for links.

[@haydenlee6365]

@@TunerwithKidswhich means , different caliper with the same brake pad am i right bro

[@TunerwithKids]

@haydenlee6365 yes caliper is different but uses same pads.

[@haydenlee6365]

@@TunerwithKids thanks bro appreciate with ur reply ! good day

[@dnyce420]

So I can get is350 and everything will work

[@TunerwithKids]

Yes it will work.

[@dnyce420]

@@TunerwithKids jus the calipers and the bracket how about the rotor I have a Is250 awd so I can return mine and act like there is350

[@TunerwithKids]

For IS250 AWD, you need 2012+ USA spec front IS350 rotors. All front IS350/GS350 calipers are the same. Rears you need IS350 rotors/calipers/brackets. The pads on rear are same as 250.

[@frostybay4887]

Where u from I need work done

[@Jedi_Luke]

Great video. Just to be clear, are the GS350 calipers bigger than the IS350 ones?

[@TunerwithKids]

Yes. 14.1 (Fsport) vs 13.1.

[@unyen3288]

Looks super good! Was there a difference in thickness between the normal rotors and F sports?

[@TunerwithKids]

I think they are both the same thickness, minimum 27mm, nominal 29.5mm. They use the same pads.

[@oneBIGMAC2go]

Great work Binh! Looks amazing!

[@TunerwithKids]

Glad you like it!

[@AllEyezOnRod]

How much will you charge to do mines?

[@knowledge561]

Just found your channel and love your videos. Quick question though. I noticed your RWD rear rotors are vented and not solid like mines. Did you upgrade your rear brakes to the is350 caliper and rotor or are those stock?

[@TunerwithKids]

Sidney , I have 350 rear rotors with calipers off an 06 GS300. It’s slightly different than the IS/GS350 caliper. The design is like 250 but bigger.

[@knowledge561]

@@TunerwithKids much thanks T.

[@epicgamer9100]

​@@TunerwithKids When you installed the 350 rear calipers did you need a new backing plate? or did the is250 backing plates fit fine with the is350 rear calipers?

[@TunerwithKids]

@epicgamer9100 backing plate was too expensive ($250/each). I just bent my 250 ones.

[@jeffkeryk3550]

How were the results? Worth it? I have a '13 GS 350 F Sport; these brakes are known for squealing! Good luck and thanks for the video.

[@TunerwithKids]

They are fine for my needs. It’s more for looks since I got big wheels. They design of the 2-piece is stupid with the rivets instead of bolts. If they had bolts like aftermarket BBK and make the rings replaceable, it would have saved them tons from the TSB. Most people replacing the rotors later are installing solid $50 rotors anyway after they realized the 2-piece are $250/each.

[@jeffkeryk3550]

@@TunerwithKids My car came with 2 piece rotors. Toyota has a TSB to replace them with 1 piece.

[@leojohnwayne1422]

My front calipers are kinda scratched up. I was planning to powder coat it. Would u recommend to get a new set or it should be fine?

[@TunerwithKids]

Just paint them? Powder coating will require rebuilding the calipers with new rubber seals. Would only do that if seals were shot.

[@leojohnwayne1422]

@@TunerwithKids can I send a screenshot of it? Through your email or IG?

[@peterock9682]

your rear caliper is from is250 still?

[@TunerwithKids]

I have 2006 GS300 rear (same rotor and size as IS350) but the design is more like the 250 compared to IS350 rear calipers.

[@peterock9682]

@@TunerwithKids gotcha, i wonder if the gs350 2007 and up is same caliper design

[@TunerwithKids]

The GS350 is same design as is350.

[@donaldsolomon3750]

After watching your videos I found some calipers with this part number on ebay(47750-22460) which says gs250 gs350 gs450h but can I use is350 rotors?

[@TunerwithKids]

That PN is the left side IS350 caliper. For the 13 inch rotors. They used this on the IS, GS, and RC with regular 13 inch brakes. See my other video on IS350 upgrade on IS250.

[@kenmaller2456]

Do you have to get an engineer certificate to make these brakes road legal in the US ? Even though they all OEM parts ? In Australia you have to get a mod plate to make it road legal if the vehicle didn’t have the brake upgrade as an option !!! Is the master cylinder he same as the 350 ? Is the ABS pump the same as 350 ? Brake booster? Brake bias ? ABS module ? The engineer looks at all this when does the brake test !!

[@TunerwithKids]

How do they even know? If they are looking hundreds of cars a day seems like they would just ensure it works and maintained.

[@mckav2358]

What's ur opinion on ceramic pads ?

[@TunerwithKids]

They work.

[@user-qy9qy5xe6j]

Hello. When did you install Lexus 350 front calipers? Have you noticed a difference in handling? Is the steering wheel hard to turn?

[@TunerwithKids]

No. They are brakes, they don’t affect steering.

[@user-qy9qy5xe6j]

@@TunerwithKids Thank you. I installed front brakes from a lexus gs 350 awd on my awd and immediately noticed that the steering wheel became harder to rotate, the car felt harder, harder to drive through bumps, all the same, the unsprung mass increased on each wheel by about 3 kg.

[@TunerwithKids]

You have the right rotors? Nothing is grinding? Make sure you have IS350 AWD rotors or 2013+ USA spec 350 IS rotors. RWD and some AWD GS rotors rub the axles.

[@user-qy9qy5xe6j]

@@TunerwithKids Calipers and brake discs from awd. Everything is installed correctly, it doesn’t rub anything, it doesn’t catch, it slows down clearly better than a car, but the sprung weight has increased on the front axle by about 6 kg and I can see it in handling, reaction speed in the steering wheel, in the feeling of rutting. While I'm getting used to it, maybe I'll change it back to the old ones.

[@TunerwithKids]

That’s barely any thing noticeable in weight.

[@suhnebasi5492]

whats the size for the rear rotors?

[@TunerwithKids]

Like 12.4”, I don’t remember, it’s the IS350 stock size.

[@vincentvalentine9417]

Thanks so much for the videos. I'm picking up a 2008 IS250 AWD this week and the first thing I always do is the brakes. I'm still a bit confused though. There is the IS350 big brake upgrade like your other video and you have the F Sport upgrade like this video. So which one of the two upgrades CAN I do? Do all the calipers fit but just need different rotor sizes? Or the calipers dont fit?

[@TunerwithKids]

For AWD, you can not do the GS350 Fsport. There isn’t enough back side room for the axle CV. You can do IS350 calipers and 2012+ rotors that have the hub venting on the rear.

[@vincentvalentine9417]

@@TunerwithKids ok so the FSport's are totally out of the equation for me. So I can do the IS350 like your other video. Which rotor size specifically do I need?

[@TunerwithKids]

Vincent Valentine the is350 uses a 13” rotor. Plenty of options available on market. Make sure it’s for USA spec 2012+ or IS350 AWD. RWD won’t fit the front axles.

[@vincentvalentine9417]

@@TunerwithKids Ok so as long as I'm listing my car as a "AWD IS350" on amazon, the big brakes and rotors will fit on my ISO250 right? Thanks man your the best love these videos

[@teamsauto2259]

​@@TunerwithKids I bought FSport Rear BBK Calipers Do i need brackets/adapters or any other hardware? What size rotors will fit? I also got GS350 Fsport Advics Front Calipers for a BBK Mod on the front. Any tips / advice? Thanks in advance

[@pedromontes6776]

Hey man I’m going to be tackling the is350 brake upgrade tomorrow and was using this and your other videos for reference and just had a question for the brake line upgrades, it didn’t seem like yours leaked much fluid while you were changing them? Did you drain the fluid before hand or did you do anything to slow down the flow when you were switching the brake lines?

[@TunerwithKids]

Are you replacing lines? You can do a drain into a bottle then swap in new and bleed.

[@pedromontes6776]

@@TunerwithKids yes I’ll be upgrading to the stop tech stainless steel lines also! And okay cool thanks I’ll be trying that also love the content you’ve been putting out it’s always so informative and helpful keep it up man🙏🏽

[@TunerwithKids]

for the line change, let it hang down and drain before you unscrew the hardline to the rubber. Then take it out to minimize the mess.

[@pedromontes6776]

@@TunerwithKids great tip thank you 🙏🏽 lowkey a little intimidating but I’ll be sure to use your videos for help lol thanks again

[@TunerwithKids]

@@pedromontes6776 brakes are one of the simplest and easy DIY items.

[@justinking8220]

What's the size on the decal sticker you got?

[@TunerwithKids]

IDK, I think I measured the width and had the eBay seller cut to length with proportional height.

[@kylemarsh2883]

What coilovers do you have

[@TunerwithKids]

eBay $200 ones. I have a video on it. One of my really early videos on the channel.

[@jangzo]

Hi. Will either the f sport or the is350 big brake fit on the AWD 06-13 is250?

[@TunerwithKids]

Fsport GS/RC 14.1, no cause rotor clearance. The 350 will fit using 350 AWD rotors or 2012 IS350 rotors.

[@luisfigueroa8394]

@@TunerwithKids where would the clearance issue be? I would like to get the 14 inch rotors on my awd too 😥

[@usmanabdullah772]

Abs works with these?

[@TunerwithKids]

Yes ABS using a drive axle sensors and pulsates the brake fluid so doesn’t matter the caliper or rotors.

[@daunycorporacion4642]

Bro are they fit like I mean like if you don't need something like I brake to fit ??

[@TunerwithKids]

Come again? They are bolt on, like pull old ones off and bolt new bigger rotor and calipers on.

[@daunycorporacion4642]

@@TunerwithKids 🔥

[@TheLou612]

Love You Channel ...

[@oaklavegas8779]

🤤 omg...

[@FireLikeIYA]

Do you have the caliper part numbers?

[@TunerwithKids]

nope, but you can look them up on Bell Lexus parts or other sites like that. These would be F-sport for GS350 or RC350 (non AWD).

[@jgs021488]

What was the size of the decal?

[@TunerwithKids]

Don’t remember. Had to measure the length and they cut it proportionally.

[@TheGambinoo]

Will the isf setup fit a 1993 gs300?

[@TunerwithKids]

Gambino orle don’t know. Check out 350phi.com, he has a lot of info on brackets and brake compatibility.

[@wale484]

Nice work 👌🏾

[@justinking8220]

Can this upgrade be done for the AWD?

[@TunerwithKids]

No. RWD only.

[@justinking8220]

Are you selling the old 350 calipers?

[@TunerwithKids]

Sold already.

[@tiburon69]

can I used Rotors none F-sport ?

[@TunerwithKids]

No. Only the GS350 RWD F-Sport comes with 14” rotors. The OEM rotors are two piece and cost $250/each. The aftermarket Centric can be had for $32/each up to $75/each. Non FSport and AWD have IS350 calipers/rotors n

[@tiburon69]

@@TunerwithKids thanks

[@tiburon69]

@@TunerwithKids I gonna keep my 18" OG wheels . I hope they fit and install this set up ...