Lexus V8 BATTLE!! LC500 VS RCF Track Edition!

[@AKhan-c6w]

Nothing compares to an lc. Its an art piece on wheels with that glorious v8. Thats why i bought one. Worth evy penny.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@rbsd952]

Ahhh my favorite brand. 👌🏾 these two are monsters, but I love my IS 500!! Nice review as always! 🔥🔥

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Two cool cars for sure!

[@layne4376]

Apart from the engine, not even close.

[@TheMDorchester]

Good review. Definitely, the RCF. It is crazy how people tend to diminish the difference as I drive both cars on the track in a Lexus event. RCF runs laps the LC500 and LC500 is not meant for it. It overheats, rolls and drags the front wheels excessively under roll when you start pushing and transmission car go into limp mode abruptly. The 400 - 500 lbs weight difference and the RCF being much smaller size and shorter wheelbase makes it feel so much faster everywhere. The LC500 is amazing on the streets and RCF does not justify it unless you really start taking the cars over 6/10th where RCF is in a league of is own

[@sly9263]

The issue is that the RC F track edition is grossly overpriced for it's performance. There isn't anywhere close to $33,000 in performance (or design) value stepping up from the base RC F to the track edition. In any other car you'd be getting forced induction with a 15-20% horsepower increase for that kind of money, or more. The track edition, in truth, is more of a fanboy and collector's car. Anyone who wants a track worthy vehicle with a $100,000 budget is not looking at this RC F- it's not even in the top 10 at that pricepoint and there's numerous $80k vehicles or below that vastly outperform it for the same purpose. The LC500 as you said, isn't designed for the track but fills the role of a sporty luxury cruiser- you can see value in the unique design both inside and out, as well as the ride quality and general comfort. The LC500 transmission is vastly superior and more responsive than the RC F's and I never understood why they didn't offer it for the RC. The RC F track edition doesn't excel in either role of being a high end performance vehicle or a luxury cruiser. If anything, the regular RC F is a nice, sporty luxury cruiser at an acceptable pricepoint for those who can't afford the LC500.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks for sharing.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks for sharing, just depends on what the buyer wants.

[@Nezzer57]

LC 500 is a beast! Love that both have natural V8's though. Great job Lexus 👍

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah very cool to see these in todays world!

[@2ZZGE100]

LC500 is an amazing grand touring halo car that is decently quick and somewhat sporty, but I would not call it a beast with lots of real world experience. It is not what the car is meant to be. A great luxury grand tourer, but at 4400 lbs, it is more of a 13s car.

[@davidbarlow372]

RCF TRACK EDITION ALL THE WAY ...if you want the faster more sporty car...if you want the nice looking Cruiser car go with the LC 500

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The LC is still a fast sporty car.

[@Manusia.satu1]

Both fast. But you are right

[@ACLMSC]

LC 500 hands down... It looks amazing.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah it's super cool!

[@TheMDorchester]

RCF all the way. Driven both in the track in the Lexus performance event. No comparison. RCF does everything much better as a performance car except stock sound. However, LC500 is the better luxury street car. It is not about the numbers, but how they feel. RCF feels much sharper and precise while the LC500 feels very soft, squishy,vague and floaty at times when you push them beyond 6/10th

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks for sharing!

[@speeddemonRS3]

Call me crazy but those engines could really benefit from a super charger like the caddy black wing! They sound great already tho! Both great 👍

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I could see that!! I’m sure someone has done that!

[@motaz1975]

love my RCF! a great gt car that has all been forgotten about.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Great car for sure! Lot's of people overlook it

[@2ZZGE100]

Great car for both track and streets. I take my RCF Car/TVD to the track one in while and also have two baby seats on the back

[@speeddemonRS3]

@@motaz1975 Does it honestly feel fast enough!?

[@motaz1975]

@@speeddemonRS3 listen, who cars about who is the fastest anymore. you got gas cars you can buy new in the 700-1,000 hp range. electric crappers that can kill most gas cars in a straight line. 467-472 hp depending on the year is more than enough for good times on the street.

[@speeddemonRS3]

@motaz1975 Did you get mad? I was just curious from an owners perspective!

[@salimrandall]

The LC500 is built on the LS500 chassis. The RC-F is based on the IS250/350/500 chassis. Very different vehicles.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah of course. Still fun to see how they stack up both being a V8 performance model from Lexus

[@2ZZGE100]

RCF has its own chassis. It does not share with the IS and I own both an RCF and a 2019 IS350 F-Sport. The RCF chassis is a lot stiffer and is shorter wheelbase while being wider. The RCF chassis was originally created to form the basis of the RCF GT3 cars, which is why they did not simply make a two door version of the 3IS platform

[@salimrandall]

@@2ZZGE100 RCF does not have a designated chassis. 2/3 IS and 1/3 GS to be specific. LC500 is on the LS500 chassis. I don’t care what you own these are the facts.

[@2ZZGE100]

@salimrandall That sounds more accurate now. I own both a 2019 IS350 F-Sport and a 2016 RCF CF/TVD. RCF chassis code is a unique chassis code called UC with the unibody is designed from the 4GS, 3IS and IS-C platforms and the monocoque is shared with the RCF GT3. The LC500 uses a shorter version of luxury platform of the GA-L platform of the LS500. For the brief history of RCF development Lexus need to build a high performance chassis without having to build something from scratch. That is why the front part is strengthened and more rigid version of the 4GS for wider track and long hood, the middle portion is from the IS-C convertible to have a very rigid core and short wheelbase and the rear section from the 3IS for a compact rear section, but RCF has it own rear subframe and it's own suspension not shared then with the base RC.

[@is4life862]

Good review 👍 Looks like the LC500 was lowered. LC500 for me. In your opinion do you think the 2024 LC500 looks worse with the screen on the dash? Some people say it looks out of place.

[@motaz1975]

that lc500 has all kinds of body mods.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It’s just a kit, can easily be taken off.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I’ve reviewed the 24 model, I think it looks great, nicely integrated and not out of place at all.

[@rickjames6867]

Great cars.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Oh yeah!

[@92IsaacYun]

LC 500 only because I know I won’t track my car. Best luxury car out there and reliable. BMW and Mercedes can’t compete for the price.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

BMW has models for a similar price…M4 for example. You get a lot more for the money from a bmw..

[@RandenMontalvo]

The LC is the ultimate cruiser and its own vibe. You get the F car for doing that and track duty. Same heart but only one will perform much higher around the track and eventually lap the other car. The other will be the one you want to drive in longer and tune out the world. Great offerings by Lexus you cant go wrong with both tools just different use cases. Me personally it’s the RCF Track Edition zero question.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah, both are great options!

[@2ZZGE100]

Well said. Totally agreed

[@RandenMontalvo]

@@2ZZGE100 facts

[@MercOne]

Battle for last place in the antique class.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

They are both extremely fun to drive! Have lots of character!

[@TheMDorchester]

The RCF with a Nurburgring time of 7:48 done by an owner in traffic on stock configuration tells it kicks a lot of cars behind even today. A pro would do low 7:40s easily

[@NVSTRZ34]

Really interested in this match up

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah cool to see how the two Lexus V8 cars stack up

[@bigbunnyboi]

ISF 500 vs these 2?

[@HalfBreedMix]

There is no "ISF 500". The F with no number = the performance model. So the hierarchy goes; IS350 -> IS350 F-sport -> IS 500 -> ISF. The ISF has not returned yet.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I haven’t seen one of those in years!

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks for sharing!

[@layne4376]

It is too bad that the IS500 doesn't have the better transmission and gearing, more performance oriented brakes, and better suspension. These two are incredible. The half baked IS500? Not so much.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

The IS500 is a sweet sedan. We took one around Daytona International Speedway, so impressive.

[@layne4376]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed When you compare it to something like an M340 or even a TLX Type S something is lost in translation.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

@@layne4376 I’d disagree, but buy what you’ll enjoy.

[@2ZZGE100]

Completely different cars. LC500 weighs 4400 lbs. About 400 lbs heavier than a standard RCF and is much softer. The RCF TE is 560lbs lighter. The LC500 does not look stock either. RCF is a street/track luxury cars. LC500 is a large grand touring luxury car. RCF TE is lighter, much smaller, much stiffer while the LC500 is a better gt luxury cruiser. Performance feel and numbers wise, RCF runs circles around it, but as a halo, luxury grand touring street car, LC500 does much better job.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah obviously they are different. Thats why I went over their differences along with what they have in common and how these two Lexus V8 cars compare

[@2ZZGE100]

@BrosFOURRSpeed Yes, you are right. This is more for a lot of people believing you can have your cake and eat it too. I get asked all the time and I am always surprised at how many people believe you can be 400 - 500 lbs heavier, have a much more softer setup and still not give up anything

[@TheMDorchester]

Completely agree.

[@jamesolive3693]

Trans is different of course the mpg is gonna be different

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

There's other factors then just that.

[@totalgraphicsmn4319]

Lexus owner x 3 here... RC is for tuner track kids... LC is for the big ballers. **tosses valet driver the keys**

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah I can see that! It's a super nice luxury car

[@sly9263]

The issue is that the RC F track edition is grossly overpriced for it's performance. There isn't anywhere close to $33,000 in performance (or design) value stepping up from the base RC F to the track edition. In any other car you'd be getting forced induction with a 15-20% horsepower increase for that kind of money, or more. The track edition, in truth, is more of a fanboy and collector's car. Anyone who wants a track worthy vehicle with a $100,000 budget is not looking at this RC F- it's not even in the top 10 at that pricepoint and there's numerous $80k vehicles or below that vastly outperform it for the same purpose. The RC F sells terribly in the US because it's not competitive, and that's before the horrific value proposition of the track edition trim comes into play. The LC500 as you said, isn't designed for the track but fills the role of a sporty luxury cruiser- you can see value in the unique design both inside and out, as well as the ride quality and general comfort. The LC500 transmission is vastly superior and more responsive than the RC F's and I never understood why they didn't offer it for the RC. The RC F track edition doesn't excel in either role of being a high end performance vehicle or a luxury cruiser. If anything, the regular RC F is a nice, sporty luxury cruiser at an acceptable pricepoint for those who are willing to settle on performance for something different and unique and or can't afford the LC500

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Thanks for sharing, just depends on what the buyer is looking for.

[@tanteng1227]

Might be an acquired taste but the aftermarket body kit on the LC is meh.

[@leojohnwayne1422]

eBay special

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I think it looks good, looks like it could be factory.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

I doubt it.

[@amill1563]

500 all ze way.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Epic car for sure!

[@amill1563]

@@BrosFOURRSpeed Jingle all ze way too.

[@latino914]

Battle of the dinosaurs 🦕

[@GHOST-hd4wm]

Why are they dinosaurs?

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Yeah cool to see the old school engines!

[@karmahunden]

@@GHOST-hd4wm old school tech... slushy transmissions, NA v8s... it's essentially a 2010 car. That's the appeal, tho!

[@totalgraphicsmn4319]

Go crash your BMW...hater.

[@abovenbeyondlimits81]

I have an LC 500 I’m rooting for it and all but mentioning storage and good or decent at 4min mark , Then gets worse to proceed to me to mention legroom in the back and good . 😂 I’m not saying he is a liar he is clearly just an optimist 😂😂😂😂

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

It's definitely small, I never said it was good to use everyday, just if or when needed. They aren't 4 seaters, just extra if needed.

[@filterec1698]

In a world where the LC is available, signing a check for the RCF would be embarrassing.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Interesting, just depends on what the buyer wants. Doesn’t make it embarrassing..

[@djnewmark]

For those of us that had the faster cars already, we will go with the LC...

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

What faster car?

[@i.d.6492]

It's literally same car just different exterior styling

[@davidbarlow372]

Not the same car at all ...suspension ...drive ratio and gearing is different the RCF has oil ..coolers etc for track use the LC 500 DOES NOT......,,DIFFERENT TRANSMISSIONS also the RCF has carbon ceramic brakes the LC does not

[@i.d.6492]

@ again it's essentially same car.

[@davidbarlow372]

@@i.d.6492 .lol sure it is whatever you say

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

No, they are not the same car.

[@BrosFOURRSpeed]

Definitely fun cars!