LG18650-MH1 40cell Scooter Battery Packs - R5s

[@johnperry5960]

Great video, tearing apart a bunch of your scooter packs right now to put together a couple of the power boxes.

[@richierich2154]

just ordered the r5 cant wait

[@ciciedee5474]

Just went to your website, loved that shipping costs are displayed in the cart. Not like other sites that you have to login to see the costs.

[@johnsherby9130]

His site is awesome. I’ve bought 15 20 cell packs alreadg

[@ebikeengineer]

30 cells back in stock?!! Outstanding! Though I'm looking to also try one of those R5 Shorties.

[@Mast3rShak305]

I'm a fleet manager in oregon. Those are from bird one scooters. Charger disconnects at 4 amps

[@terrysobkowich2084]

Any info on bypassing the security feature for people who bought the security enabled battery packs?

[@philaell]

Wish he would have showed him taking the case off. Some of these packs are simple, others are a B to get apart.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

So I have been playing with these batteries with the extra wire (third unused end) and I love them. A number of these packs however do not have the third extra wire and just have the charging end and the thicker discharge end...... these packs also have a anti theft sticker on them and shut down after 5 seconds, any ideas on this??? It says OTA WITH ANTI-THEFT

[@felixmendez6294]

Can I use the purple battery case for my Jetson eBik?

[@elfocker]

As of yesterday 4/25/22 a launch edition rivian sold for $119k at bring a Trailer auction.

[@MarkPrince1317]

Thank you very much brother for always the very informative video's Best regards from Philippines 🇵🇭

[@romulogatpo9903]

Are the R5 long packs going to be sold untested?

[@fredericklein9784]

Wish that your shop would be over here in Europe..

[@christopherf7423]

As to charging: keep it below 3.5 amps. You have NCR18650BD with 4 in parallel (10S4P). The datasheet says about 900mA each. If you jam 20A into the port, you are hitting each cell with 5 amps each (on average). That is very dangerous, and will destroy the cells quickly.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

I'm only charging through the charging port and using a 2 amp scooter charger.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

In your research , does it say what the discharge rate of these packs is ?.

[@Code_hack_]

@@terrysobkowich2084I just got two of these packs. I was able to charge thru charging port for initial charge but after first full capacity test cycle it will only allow charge through discharge port. Have you had similar experience or know how to reenable charging through charging port?

[@terrysobkowich2084]

@@Code_hack_ I have never had a problem charging through the charging port,...mostly.... the only time I put power into the discharge port is when the battery was completly discharged and the BMS didn't even have enough power to wake up and start charging the battery, so....I had to put some power into the discharge port to get enough charge into the battery to wake up the BMS to allow charging into the charge cable. The bigger challenge I have had though is that some similar packs I have gotten from elsewhere had a anti theft firmware lock whereby the pack will only supply 0.7a unless it receives a digital code from a scooter that is no longer there....the battery assumes it has been stolen and then shuts down lol, So then you need to do a modd on the battery pack whereby you bypass the bms for discharging or run it inline with a digital signal box that emulates the scooter signal.....I have done both.

[@Code_hack_]

@@terrysobkowich2084thanks for the info. Once the voltage reached about 37v I was able to charge through the charging port again. These packs seem really good and mine are shown about 90% capacity. Did any of your packs come battery clearinghouse? Mine are from jag35

[@bobravenscraft5376]

I'm not rich but not dumb battery clearing house had LGMH1. 72 for 72 free shipping. I procrastinated for couple days. Bought them. Now. Way different shipping up to $20. Do your RESEARCH. MHI are best cheap 10amp I found. Panasonic has a slightly better power curve Not much Panasonic you WILL pay

[@noce1071]

Are these batteries as good as the Panasonic ncr18650bd? . I am building 60v batteries. 16s 13p .

[@kevinlieb]

You are skipping over the important details like cell config? Is it a 10s4p then? Also can you post more info on the grid tie inverter? It seems to be happily running and inverting w/o AC input, or is it just feeding back to your wall outlet?

[@juliematos6429]

You make me want to learn💕❤

[@josephau4623]

what is the dimensions of the take apart unit??

[@dr.projectx5142]

Wonder how much 1 mwhr cost?? For the bulk price woth shipping. That would he a great project to do.

[@fredericklein9784]

That 10wh difference is because of the maths. The capacity is calculated 37v x 12500 mAh, the other packs are rated 36v nominal voltage.

[@oscarcparadis]

Currently living in Puerto Rico where I can buy your products?

[@brixynixy]

what inverter is that? been trying to find an inverter that will handle 36v as i have a ton of 36v scooter batteries.

[@steven-vj6lc]

No more in stock ? :(

[@edwardo1973]

Two Megawatts :D crazy

[@noce1071]

How do these compare to the Panasonic ncr18650bd. Are they about the same ?

[@jgc5782]

Hello Jahu....I like to assemble lithium packs as a business in Canada...How do I go about that can I get your feedback....Thanx

[@steven-vj6lc]

Are those bird batteries plug and play for the bird one scooter ??

[@blackfaithdoom9018]

Where to get those XT60 Battery-Meter ... ?

[@iegsolarcom9698]

Going Green.

[@doncodman913]

Hi ...Wow you seem to love all this stuff and really know your stuff. I have a couple of questions about the battery pack you were testing there.. I have a battery in a copy Xiaomi scooter that has the same type of bms along the full length of the battery . How can i tell if my BMS has failed or just somehow needs waking up . I am going to watch more of your videos ,btw,. The scooter i have i bought as a non runner to hopefully easily fix. Got new dash-board and new mother board and when i connect the battery if i quickly press throttle i can run the motor for 7 or 8 seconds then all cuts out and error code 21 ( NO communication with battery ) . There is no Bluetooth as far as i can tell ,although im not sure if i need a scooter APP to be able to detect any Bluetooth signal & no lights at all on BMS. I am interested to find out if that little device would help , i am really new to the scooter world and its problems and you look the guy that has the parts to help . look forward to hearing from you ,Don .

[@kevins5016]

Probably need to bypass the BMS on discharge. Sounds like you’re dealing with a prior rental and the system is looking for a signal from the gps board that isn’t there anymore. So get a different battery or just research bypassing the BMS but still used on charging.

[@doncodman913]

@@kevins5016 Hi Kevin . No its not a rental or ex rental. It is a copycat of a xiaomi . Last night i tried waking the BMS as demonstrated but no joy . the battery is good at 42 volts . I think now i need to replace the BMS but are they specific to suit the mother board ? rgds Don

[@pimprock23]

why no ship to canada?

[@jehugarcia]

where were you last year? I had 10 pallets of these stuck in Canada I basically had to give them away as no one was interested in them.

[@pimprock23]

@@jehugarcia I am just getting in to the lithium world and have learned lots from you in the past week, thanks for the content keep up the good work!

[@ColePEET]

I just bought 30 of these R5 shorties as you call them, what is the pinout? How do you connect them in series and parallel? I have arduinos, everything, but having a hard time getting the info.

[@jehugarcia]

Who cares about the pin out if there’s no connectors, install an xt60 connector and charge/use them, you don’t need anything else

[@ColePEET]

@@jehugarcia You said in one of your videos you EV project doesn't have a BMS, do you have more info on this? I kinda feel like running 6 parallel strings of 5 series batteries for my EV project would be a little sketchy, is there a way to use the onboard BMS and can you recommend another BMS that could handle all the series and parallel strings? Also thanks for the response buddy, I bought 30 of these R5 shorties as you call em and you seem to be the only guy that knows anything about them so I'm super glad to make your acquaintance.

[@ColePEET]

@@jehugarcia also if you want to figure out shipping to edmonton alberta I'll buy all the connectors and stuff from you so it's worth your time to respond to messages if thats fair.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

@@jehugarcia XT60 on the output for sure, I found that those small red RC hobby connectors will connect to the charging input port , just saying.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

@@ColePEET Ha Ha Red Deer here lol

[@scottjeffery161]

How do u buy

[@charlierivers631]

Saludos Jehu, I wanted to ask you if you have ever done a battery replacement for the Segways? I am trying to replace my battery packs for my segway but wanted to ask you first to look at my options. Cheers brother!

[@jtmtb856]

Too bad R5 shorty will not fit on my Razor E300, too thick

[@terrysobkowich2084]

Ok so I picked up a bunch of these 36v units at auction , the voltage of one of the units at the discharge is like 2 to 3 v ?? , it this a sign of the bms being off (or would that read zero?) or is this particular pack screwed and good only for salvage of individual cells? Or salvage of bms ?. Thx

[@jehugarcia]

Try charging it, if the bms wakes up your are good to go

[@terrysobkowich2084]

@@jehugarcia Thank you sir, I charged it for a short while while and the discharge leads are reading about 35v ish even with the power brick unplugged so I'm assuming that the bms is working fine and the cells are taking a charge, the pack was just very deeply discharged ? we will see what it is at by morning. perhaps ill even try discharging it and see what its capacity is at?

[@TeslaMYLRShorts]

Hi, could you provide some info please about the paks: all the paks are fully functional or you got some dead cells?

[@terrysobkowich2084]

@@jehugarcia So the morning has come and the charger (which is for this battery type has changed from red to green indicating the BMS has shut off and the battery is charged, disconnecting the charger the battery still reads 41.5 v. I think im good.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

Strange...this post now says 2 h ago but i posted it yesterday. the responses i got and my follow up on this pack are gone.....

[@edmundJung]

wait, your inverter can take 40V?

[@jehugarcia]

22v-65vdc

[@TeslaMYLRShorts]

@jehugarcia there will be another auction in Canada for these type of batteries? I got 4 lot of these but premier auction refused to pack them that would only take 10 mins so the shipping company could pick them up. I really wanted to buy ay least 50 60 of these : (

[@jehugarcia]

So you are not getting the ones you purchased?

[@TeslaMYLRShorts]

@@jehugarcia First I wanted to arrange shipping then I was gonna pay. I couldn't find a company who can pack the shipping as well. That's why I kindly asked them a few times that batteries already on the pallet all you need to do is wrap it but they refused to it.

[@jehugarcia]

4 lots is 1/4 pallet, why not ship them in the pallet?

[@TeslaMYLRShorts]

@@jehugarcia idk, I even got quote for it but they just didn't wrap it for pick-up. It would take max 10 mins.

[@FarmingGoneWild]

@@TeslaMYLRShorts Did you get your batteries or you paying storage fees?

[@georgeknight7079]

What is your website to purchase batteries?

[@johnperry5960]

Go to his website, jag 35

[@jehugarcia]

How is it possible you guys still don’t know how to click on the links in the description?

[@blackfaithdoom9018]

Excuse me Sir ..., i am writing this from germay ..... . Do you have any relalions to Pakistan ?

[@markreed9853]

Could you make a "powerwall" style product out of these BUT make it so the BMS tells you when one needs replacing and can be easily swapped out?

[@jehugarcia]

Ues

[@cmsclips1770]

Just bought 4 of these. Soldered on an XT60 and plugged into an Ecoflow mini as an expansion battery. The battery cuts off as it ramps up above ~200w. Unplug then plug back in and same thing. Any ideas?

[@cmsclips1770]

Is it the anti-theft feature. Mine has a sticker that says SOC 65-70% OTA with Anti-Theft

[@cmsclips1770]

@@thatguychris. I opened mine up and connected the negative lead directly to the B- pad on the battery and the pack works fine now. I would prefer a solution that disables the anti theft mechanism so I could use the cells through the on board bms. To be clear you can still charge with the smaller charge wire and the BMS is in play to balance it when charging. But now when discharging and the BMS is bypassed there is no low voltage cut off so you have to monitor the voltage. Opening the unit was a pain, I used a heat gun and worked at the seam of the plastic, wasn’t easy. Another option is to take the batteries out of the case remove the on board BMS and install any 10s BMS from Amazon or wherever. I might do this if I can’t figure out how to disable the anti theft feature or whatever is causing it to cut power after 5 seconds.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

The three cable ones (charge cable, power cable , and and extra capped off cable ) work straight up. The two cable ones (that have the anti theft sticker and only the charging cable and power cable) require a work around to get around the anti theft feature, there are vids on this.

[@josephau4623]

​@@terrysobkowich2084 so it a crab shot which 2 or 3 wires battery I will get. If I got the 2 wires one. you think it is still worth the price? I am not confident on working with batteries.

[@terrysobkowich2084]

@@josephau4623 Well ,about 80% of the ones I got ( not from the website )were the 2 wire ones that unfortunately require the modification but once you see how its done, its not really that big of a deal in my opinion....... but You would have to figure out the cost benefit for yourself especially if there is a lot of shipping costs. I have a thousand watt ebike and I did 15 miles just this morning on a pair of these packs in parallel.

[@danielteegarden8982]

nope

[@kevins5016]

Jehu must get so irritated by some of these questions

[@RandomClips27.]

Hi how do you take it apart i took all the screws off but still not opening Thanks

[@RandomClips27.]

Just did manage to take it apart think its got some kind of glue i just used a dermel to cut one side get a screw drive to pull it apart

[@Yosupra]

hello, im looking for es-90 battery pack please contact me