LGR Oddware - SNES Game Saver Plus by Nakitek

Want to utilize save states but don't want to use an emulator? The Naki Game Saver+ cartridge is just the retro gaming doohickey for you!

[@ARCWuLF]

This device is EXTREMELY useful on games like "Jurassic Park" -- a typical play through is about 5 hours (assuming that you know where everything is) but the game has no save feature of any kind.

[@ARCWuLF]

Yes. A great game with epic flaws.

[@Garrette63]

Michael Adams With a save feature and a couple of minor changes, that game could have been a great game.

[@ARCWuLF]

True, that.

[@MosoKaiser]

@@Garrette63 Indeed! Adding a battery save or password system, inventory screen to view your currently held items (keycards & stuff), better in-game pointers for the objectives, and ditching that super sluggish 3D first-person view for the indoor areas for the same isometric perspective as the outdoors (a la the NES game) would have improved the game a great deal.

[@cemsengul16]

Definitely

[@prizedcoffeecup]

The reason that the signal becomes a little bit fuzzy is simple: It uses a small amount of the console's power to power itself, and as a result it causes the amount of available power for the console to decease by a small margin. This allows the console to still function correctly but with the side effect of the video output chip only being able to function at most of it's capacity rather than all of it.

[@ZipplyZane]

***** That's testable. Use two SNES adapters, and see if the problem goes away. Or run it on batteries.

[@prizedcoffeecup]

ZipplyZane​ I don't have the device myself but I would have already mentioned my results in this post if I did. This is just an estimation of the cause of this slight video quality decrease.

[@ZipplyZane]

***** Sorry. Didn't mean for you to test it. LGR has two SNESes, so he probably has two adapters. He could see if you were right.

[@prizedcoffeecup]

ZipplyZane Yeah...I wonder if he isn't in the same boat with the power adaptors as I am with my two Genesis consoles. Both work but the power adapter for one of them never worked and now the coaxial connection for the same one is going too.

[@samsponian]

***** I have the Game Saver+ myself and a couple of SNES. I haven't noticed any problem with signal degradation which should show up instantly on my scaler I use (XRGB-Mini) but I also use a regulated power supply rather than OEM which provides more amperage. One thing LGR didn't touch on with this device and is really awesome is it has built-in slow motion controls that aren't just "MASH PAUSE A BUNCH, SLOW GAME DOWN." It actually slows down the processing side without affecting the sound so you can do things like practice game-breaking bugs in Super Metroid i.e mock balling on a real system to get timing down.

[@LGR]

That does not work the greatest for the yellowing shown here (resulting from the flame retardant used in the ABS plastic) and I would not recommend it. The only thing I've seen that reliably and safely reverses this type of yellowing is the solution known as Retr0bright.

[@JeffreyOsb]

That would have been fucking amazing when I was a child...

[@bobbobson110]

"it kinda mostly works" Sold!

[@LGR]

All it does is let you play imported games without modifying your system. Basically, it's an adapter for the shape of the cart. It doesn't change anything about the game itself, so if the game's in Japanese it stays in Japanese.

[@NewWhirledSlacker42]

I've always wanted to watch a Video Game Review by Norm McDonald.

[@dragonsni]

this is actually pretty good for speedrunners for practice

[@MrGencyExit64]

My favorite accessory for the SNES, the Super UFO Pro, has this capability and also works as a flash cartridge / ROM dump device. Still, it is truly fascinating to know that this was a thing back in 1994 - that was well before emulators popularized save states. The Super UFO Pro's save state function is just as quirky as this one though, it's probably a hardware limitation on the SNES with all of its different co-processors.

[@emmettturner9452]

If you open up the Naki GameSaver+ it has Bung Enterprises chips inside. Bung mad the Professor SF/GameDoctor copier devices for SNES (Super UFO was another one). It's basically a fancy Bung backup unit with save states and slo-mo but without the actual backup functionality, since this thing was sold at Wal-Mart and had to be legal. ;)

[@DrunkencoderPayk]

this reason for the sound and intro issues are properly CPU interrupts which still exist after exchanging the ram and vram with saved state. it seems that they used an interrupt to replay the intro. and for music made like that back then interrupts have been a usually thing as well.

[@habofro]

Dat Re-Volt song tho

[@dragan_zc]

which song tho? ;w;

[@nerdicorgi]

I realize that this video is old and that, odds are, no one cares about why those codes exist, but they actually serve the purpose of allowing the GSP to modify the game's RAM address offset. A lot of games will shuffle RAM addresses around when they are loaded in (there are numerous reasons for this, but that's a talk for another time). What you're inputting with the code as actually the hex address of a RAM value for each game that controls that shuffle. If the game is allowed to shuffle, the GPS won't know what values to track or, what's worse, where to assign them when you resume your game. So, say you're playing mario, and you've got 5 lives and 60 coins. If the game shuffles addresses when you reload you may have 60 lives and 5 coins (though in all honest you're likely to get a game crash as you have [bg_mountain_sprite] lives and [fireflower_shoot_sound] coins).

[@tatertot64]

Fuck yes this is very valuable supplemental info. Can't say I can understand it very well, but I respect your sharing of it!!

[@almightyk11]

@@tatertot64 tl;dr the codes help it understand supplemental data

[@DOSRetroGamer]

Is this shuffling related to the lockout mechanism for third party games?

[@nerdicorgi]

@@DOSRetroGamer Not usually. Typically it's to ensure that that the code can run regardless of where in the pool of available RAM addresses the system begins to write, because not every system, execution cycle, or RAM vendor is going to start reading or writing from the same address. So it's far safer to write to the first available than force a specific address. These days address shuffling, offsets, and multi-point references are all frequently used as a means of deterring cheating on modern console and PC games both to protect the integrity of the game and to increase the likelihood of the game's internal error handler spotting the anomaly and safely crashing rather than risking damage to the system.

[@rushnerd]

I had this! my mom bought it for me for Donkey Kong Country so she didn't have to wait for me to find a save point

[@TheFableHistorian]

Exactly how I felt when I played Final Fantasy. XD

[@TheFableHistorian]

*4

[@vhs1984]

@@BeerBaron23 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH. unexpected, had a good laugh xD Thank you.

[@awnnerd]

Props for your clearly cool mom! (everyone should have a cool mom - it's a requirement for becoming a great man).

[@Kalvinjj]

I'm 100% sure you've used the excuse "OK, let me just reach the save point" and she found a way around it, if that's it, your mom is a genius!

[@OGBDMCAST]

Why don't you put a SNES game saver INSIDE OF AN SNES GAME SAVER?

[@Nathan-ob2gh]

BDMCAST You could save the game saver!

[@freezetile8588]

He can't, the universe would implode.

[@nukacola6639]

I almost died when he said, ya know, piss on it and smoke on it for like ten years

[@ejaayej3465]

inSNESption

[@anthony_leckie]

In 2004 after pissing on the Gamesaver+ and smoking around it for 10 years it finally looked uniform with my SNES.

[@kinamiya1]

Anthony Leckie ahh the classic piss yellow consoles

[@Jannesmitderwelle]

😂

[@cemsengul16]

Haha too true

[@nickpavloff8977]

Well in the future, if yours is yellow, it means it’s original and can sell for much (even now for like 1-$2000) much much more then the newer so........

[@dankhill6851]

@@nickpavloff8977 or you could mix coloring with plastic, and melt it down, start with very little, if its not right remelt with more color, you'll probably go through 5-10 batches of plastic trying to get this right, weigh the color on a scale and record weights of the coloring/plastic so you can do it over and over again, if your thinking "that sounds tedious" a meth addict could do it

[@StrayGuitarist]

I have a terrible idea. Plug a gameboy game into a Super Game Boy adapter, then plug the SGB into a Game Genie, then plug the Game Genie into a Game Saver+ adapter, then plug that into an SNES.

[@NicholasMarkovich]

I have a gameboy I have a Game Genie UUH

[@sethseth6ify]

Nintendo's take on the tower of power.

[@TheClaybones]

Plug all of that into Super Noah's Ark 3D.

[@StrayGuitarist]

So, then, take that GB save pack, and add it to the mix. Along with the GB Game genie.

[@StrayGuitarist]

ZachAttack84 I guess, just a black screen when it boots?

[@LGR]

Not really. It'll play the game through the cart, but save states don't work. It's one of the SuperFX carts with extra pins that is incompatible.

[@LGR]

I got mine on eBay for $5 shipped. As for the "goldish" SNES, it's just a system that's turned yellow over the years. Lots of them do this.

[@1-eye-willy]

wtf is up with this deluged of coments clint lol

[@zangl2955]

Old youtube nested replies differently, so now all the replies are out in the open.

[@syntaxerror9994]

theory on video issue... the power pass thru is polluting the power feed and creating interference. it could also be underpowering the SNES making its video output weak.

[@bullzebub]

sounds probable. and easy to test :-)

[@DemomanX614]

Lol, i like you showed "Six batteries!" and I thought "what is this a game gear??" and you went on to bring up a similar point. I love your videos

[@LGR]

I have, plenty of times. I just don't feel the need to force people to look at it when I'm focusing on games and hardware. The videos are about those, not me.

[@DaVince21]

Naki means crying in Japanese. So is it like the predecessor of Crytek?

[@zUltra3D]

*Crying Tek®™™®™®™®™®™®™®*

[@cemsengul16]

You might be on to something come with me sir.

[@LGR]

That's how I found that one. Some of them go yellow over time, has to do with the flame retardant used in the ABS plastic.

[@Kiralmao]

damn!

[@DarkestAngel2ndCh]

love your stuff man

[@LadnarvonBoshaft]

@LGR The socially acceptable term is "flame adverse" as opposed to "flame retardant" - 😜

[@LGR]

And a lot of space in-between each "stage", so save states certainly come in handy if you're not very patient.

[@Fauxvale]

so apparently 2012 LGR had a mighty beard

[@09yulstube]

KazutoPlays I'd completely forgotten about this look, the beard cameo caught me by surprise.

[@cemsengul16]

Nerds today have beards haha

[@NineEyeRon]

03:44

[@jarofyellow2408]

game saver+ + super noahs ark3d + super game boy + gameboy game genie + gameboy game = wtf life support

[@prizedcoffeecup]

Solomon Garbett Would make a real damn good giveaway for any KZbinr that does anything with these old consoles at all. XD

[@brickbrainiac]

Solomon Garbett add on the snes game genie.

[@brickbrainiac]

thats an nes game

[@ZipplyZane]

Solomon Garbett Good luck getting the GB Game Genie to work on the Super Game Boy. You'd have to physically alter the device, making it not sit well on a real Game Boy anymore. I know--I had both, and it bummed me out.

[@prizedcoffeecup]

Yeah...if two items that seem like they're meant to work together don't work, in Nintendo's scenario it's almost always a complicated process to work around it.

[@LGR]

Yes, but who wants to mutilate a vintage console? Not me.

[@TimeLemur6]

What happens if you try to load a state in the wrong game?

[@LGR]

Usually nothing, or maybe the game glitches out and crashes.

[@TimeLemur6]

Lazy Game Reviews Boring, but I'm not sure what else I was expecting.

[@thischannelisdefunct4651]

telmer6 your picture matches your response

[@TimeLemur6]

ZachAttack84 Reasonable.

[@SirGlooper]

This is awesome for speedrunning. You can save a state, and if you die or lose a character you can just restart right where you want. Very ideal for practising hard tricks/glitches.

[@madwax4771]

Eazinn E - and now, a couple of years later, we have the Classic SNES mini with the ability to save your progress into 4 different slots.

[@OathOfRevenge]

@@madwax4771 Pc emulators have had SNES savestates for decades though

[@bigpurpleflower2185]

@@OathOfRevenge This is on real hardware though

[@jeckjeck6943]

@@bigpurpleflower2185 Hello. Classic minis are not "real hardware". Those mini consoles run emulators on generic arm hardware.

[@anthony_leckie]

In 2004 after pissing on the Gamesaver+ and smoking around it for 10 years it finally looked uniform with my SNES.

[@EmpressKaga]

"It kinda mostly works." What a confident-sounding review.

[@THEMADMAN254]

the youtube algorithm is slowly making me watch older LGR videos

[@LGR]

Just because you can't see it most of the time doesn't make it acceptable if you ask me. Cutting off parts of a retro machine when there are better and less permanently destructive options is just not very appealing.

[@claypf4795]

Loading screen on a cartridge game? That must have been one heck of a game

[@MosoKaiser]

Yep. One of those games that use data compression. Mickey Mania and Street Fighter Alpha 2 for instance also had loading pauses due to the game assets taking a short while to be decompressed for loading.

[@danxepha4535]

Could the poor video quality be anything to do with it leaching power from the system? If it's quite high powered then that could mean not enough power is getting to the SNES.

[@marcellmeszaros9381]

+Dan Xepha It has a batteries/power in so it wouldn't be getting power from the console, only exchanging data

[@danxepha4535]

+Marcell Meszaros You should probably watch the video again. He clearly shows and says that the power is taken from the console's power supply (you plug the SNES power adaptor into the device then plug the cable onto the device to pass through power to the console. He also explains that the batteries are no good for running the device and only work as a short term option when switching between consoles.

[@theonetuby]

I agree, it could also be "bad" or "dirty" power from that cheap looking thing. Not sure, but I'd bet it's power related...

[@m2pt5]

Of course it won't save state a super game boy, the SGB was basically game boy hardware, receiving controller input from and sending video output to the SNES.

[@LGR]

Adapterception? Count me in.

[@shana_dmr]

It looks like it is eating this poor cartridge;(

[@LGR]

Never said or implied that you should play with batteries on all the time, that wouldn't make sense. I was saying that they draw battery power like crazy when in use, and last only an hour or two. Say you want to keep a savegame around until the next day or so? Nope, no can do.

[@Orangestar1]

KZbin decided to recommend this to me today so I could re-watch it and after skimming the comments I notice nobody mentioned that the region locking on the SNES is done through two little tabs on the sides of the cartridge slot. You don't need adapters, you can just rip those out and play the games on the native system.

[@LadnarvonBoshaft]

@Orangestar1 I believe most people with an interest in imports know this. However, few gamers likely consider maiming their 30+ year old console a viable option. Thanks for making those not "in the know" aware of this method though. It is a more cost-effective solution.

[@UrbanArtifact]

I looks like a duck from the side

[@visioncb]

UrbanArtifact hahahaa soo true

[@xcryi]

UrbanArtifact Quack!

[@LGR]

Epic fart compilation? Do I even wanna know?

[@jevansturner]

I'd point out the reason the music gets screwy is because the SNES has an entirely different processor for music, which has its own memory too. I once managed to transfer a DKC3 save to a friend's cart by saving a state right as I was choosing the in-game save option, then swapping the cart and loading state. It took several attempts. The game would always lock up almost immediately after restoring state, but we actually managed to get it saved.

[@LGR]

I take it you're not familiar with the joke...

[@neophobicnyctophile8264]

Misses Jupiter, misses Saturn, hits my game console.

[@ChosenOne41]

but what if your game console is a Saturn?

[@ChorusKids]

Chosen SCIM 41 It would reflect to Neptune.

[@LGR]

While I am unable to try it, I'm told it does.

[@NightfallGemini]

Video issues are absolutely because of the passthrough power. What an odd system. I get why they did it, but it seems a rather 'dirty' solution.

[@LGR]

Came out yesterday, actually! Expect an LGR Plays soon :)

[@Crazywaffle5150]

I had a game saver. I loved it. lol

[@junibuffooni]

Did it have the video quality issues?

[@zgillet]

@@junibuffooni Could you even tell on a CRT?

[@LGR]

PC.

[@DaveRicher705]

I think the batteries for redundancy, not primary power. I would assume it would not draw on them if it did not need to?

[@LGR]

Because it still has to decompress and load the data into the system RAM.

[@Flex_Battery]

"Piss on it and smoke around it for 10 years" Funniest thing i have heard in years lmao dying :))))))))

[@LGR]

I tried this, it did nothing. Would have shown it, but it just blanks the screen for a split second and that's it.

[@DustyTheKitty]

I'm guessing if the T-rex eats the whole console, Game Saver Plus included, your still shit outta luck?

[@LGR]

Weird huh? I grew up calling it Out of this World, but have been calling it by its true name since I found out about it. I like Another World better anyway, and all the re-releases over here have gone by that name too, so I'm steadily re-training myself.

[@MarginalSC]

Fuzziness probably happens due to interference.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

I expect the power passthrough reduces the quality of the power, which negatively impacts the video due to increased interference.

[@MavDude]

Speaking of the Game Genie codes... tell me I'm not the only one that used to put in codes for the wrong games or make up random codes entirely to see how it would glitch out the game? My brother and I used to spend hours doing that. You could get all kinds of odd glitches. Weird colors, screwy music, etc. Haven't thought about that in years.

[@FordGTmaniac]

You know how cool it would've been if the Genesis had this? No more failing to get the emeralds in the Sonic games, just save as soon as the bonus levels start.

[@evenmorebetter]

Of course Sonic Origins lets you kind of do this now

[@unchi1999]

And also no more broken controllers due to rage quits

[@manuelink64]

4:23 No way, you have the Legendary Golden SNES Zelda Special Edition?

[@prizedcoffeecup]

manuelink64 Nevermind this comment...stupid thing won't let me make new lines as needed. I just pressed enter here and it corrected that on my computer...gee whiz, so picky.

[@zUltra3D]

I think it's just yellowed plastic.

[@vwestlife]

So the power loops through the add-on cartridge and then goes to the console, instead of needing another AC adapter... why couldn't Sega freakin' think of that with the 32X??

[@MrJasonSnell]

loading screens, screens that show loading. One day, there wont be a word for load. Or it will just mean semen.

[@fotakatos]

Blahhh Lol, guess I wasn't the only one who appreciated that line. I literally laughed my butt off. Well, figuratively, really.

[@ilovemybeard3394]

Omg!!! Yes...thank you for mentioning the reverbs and weird sounds when you load up your game I remember when I was a kid I loaded my save in Link to the past and the over world music was mixed up pretty weird, and even Boss battle themes were interesting to hear So I was somewhat hooked and experimented on many SNES games and had fun poking around with weird sounds echoing repeatedly and weird music for entertainment purposes Yes...I also saved too, but my main goal was enjoying weird sounds and showing it off to my friends for laughs Good times

[@LGR]

Tandy 1000 RL/HD, which I've done a review on.

[@tomyyoung2624]

YesSingnal

[@squishybrick]

Wow, a device for nintendo that gave you access to psuedo save-states? AVGN should do a review on this.

[@Axioanarchist]

Hey, I had one of these. I loved it, though I didn't use it incredibly much, but it was the only way I managed to actually get all the way through Super Nova (aka Darius Force).

[@MrGoronxX]

We love random beard cameos !!

[@jonthefuzz]

whats weird is my cousins snes has been smoked around for over 15 years and is still grey

[@jjjoshiii6659]

Its all about UV light.

[@cirocjones9886]

"These poor yellow super Nintento's suck.." *sigh* That was hilarious for some reason. Enjoy watching your older content man thanks for a great channel.

[@ShadX222]

Carmageddon :)

[@Drumstyx427]

Just got one, it's awesome and it works with my super everdrive!

[@BigHead2615]

I never heard of this until today, and let me say, this could have been a useful tool back in the day. Of course my brother's Super Nintendo was never unplugged unless we were moving it from one room to another... and when I got my own, it was plugged in to a power outlet at all times. Anyway, I can't tell anyone "how many times" I had interruptions during any gameplay, say if my mom wanted me to go to school, go to bed, take out the trash, feed the dog, wash the fucking car, set the table, wash the dishes, vacuum any given room in the house, just randomly have to turn the game off because she just couldn't stand that I wanted to have a relaxing time with video games. Hell this could be useful to me now, since I still play my Super Nintendo when ever I'm in the mood for any of it's games, I prefer it and actual cartridges to any emulation that's possible.

[@LostInVertigo]

Does the Game Saver+ work for a PAL-SNES?

[@thereelmaster]

as far as i can see, the reason why it lowers the image quality, is because its pulling extra power from the snes, which pulls more power from the video chip, in turn, reducing the image quality, at least it dosnt make it lag! LOL

[@1-eye-willy]

Thats what i was thinking

[@MosoKaiser]

Or just the fact that the

[@Eyetrauma]

You could play a Japanese SFC cart in an American SNES by removing the tabs inside. On the other hand, it's interesting that the part that plugs into the system has a SFC/Euro-style design (not the boxy one we use in the US), so it'd be interesting to see if it'd work as a SNES->SFC adapter in a Super Famicom.

[@MichaelSchiciano]

Chances are it would work if the shape is right.

[@fornavnefternavn208]

That yellow Snes is an awesome seal of endurance :D

[@DarkAvatar1313]

Except that it is not. It's a sign of the plastic getting weaker and more brittle than just turning yellow. Plastic-bromide UV reaction is horrible for the consoles life; there is ways to partially reverse the reaction and stop it though.

[@ProtosMerkabah]

I like to call yellowed US SNESs Gold Frieza!

[@nathanhamman418]

Darkavatar retrobright and then custom paint to stop or at least slow the uv degradation

[@jasonross6727]

There are tutorials on how to mix chemical solutions that can halt and reverse the yellowing. You have to partially dissasemble the SNES to soak the case in the solution.

[@JohnWDisco]

Is that a Raspberry Pi underneath the monitor?

[@steinaech]

"Hokay, so this is the earth." I heard that.

[@Dknife9]

I did too! Started digging in the comments to see if anyone else had lol

[@iivoli]

Never understood why the us snes's were made so clunky and dull coloured compared to the european/japanesium version.

[@techmouse.]

They thought US culture was into a lot of sharp lines. They eventually fixed this with the SNES 101 model. But by then, the N64 was almost out so nobody gave a shit.

[@notyoursavior78]

For 1994 that's not bad. It also let you play imports which is neat too. I never heard of this item before.

[@Dragondraikk]

One thing I am curious about (mostly because I love seeing old games completely break from glitches or the like) is what would happen if you saved, then booted up another game and tried loading

[@FloowSnaake]

A RASPBERRY PI!

[@jamescree6331]

... Sucks ass!

[@blackjack1374]

AND YOU SPEND $163 ON A KIT... that at the price you could probably buy a decent little tablet for...

[@JoshuaSabourin]

"I guess you could just piss on it and smoke around it for 10 years." hahaha

[@TheWarmotor]

battery-backed EEPROMs don't hardly take any power to retain state. WTF does it need SIX AAs for?!

[@user2C47]

Probably to have enough voltage.

[@compzac]

What if its not an EEPROM, but how about dynamic ram, hmm constant refresh needed as well as constant supply of smooth power or data loss or corruption occurs, sounds a lot like what this thing does

[@emmettturner9452]

It copies workram, not battery-backed SRAM. EEPROMs don't take any power to retain their state, but SNES games don't use EEPROM to save progress. Furthermore, this has nothing to do with what kind of save memory a game uses since it can save/restore any game even if it didn't have built-in saving. Real-time save-states are totally different. It's basically a RAM dump, like when a Windows PC goes into pure Hibernation (as opposed to sleep or hybrid sleep/hibernation).

[@MrBronsonNY]

For fucking jurasic park!

[@ColonelNegative]

carlos carrion That's why I bought one a few years back hahahaha

[@Revilerify]

That game he plays (out of this world) looks likes it fucking sucks

[@PsionicMonk]

S Bock Had that game as a kid. Everyone seems to love it from what I've seen. But I hated that damn thing, it was slow, stupid, and not engaging to a child.

[@xXUnicornYoloXx]

When you mentioned the t-Rex and the meteorite, I died from laughing.

[@jonas-fr]

Try put an AC adapter for each of the SNES and the GS+. The video issues might be related to an electrical problem

[@AmEv7fam]

Hey, a 1st gen Raspberry Pi!

[@Joshy05]

Actually the yellowing is caused by a reaction to light of the chemicals used for making the plastic. But I guess smoke and piss could do the same thing lol

[@superandroidtron]

The video quality loss might be caused by interference generated by the Game Saver.

[@mazdamx5miata]

I have been sliced by a worm tooth

[@herrabanani]

"so if you don't have an adepter i guess you can use this..." you said that and i was wundering a name of a regular adapter, can you tell me what the most comenly used adapter is called?

[@GzeeBRII]

the image looks interpolated, as those filters found on emulators

[@areanem]

omg ur beard is awesome!!!! im growing my beard too! only 6 months in!

[@laharl2k]

i bet that its just overwiting the sram, while checking that the vram is more or less the same as it was before. no way its reseting the hardwarw setting the interrupts and reloading all the memories

[@imagoatbah]

There's no reason why it couldn't save the registers and program counter as well. I'm curious about what it does because if it did do that, what else could be making the loads so unreliable?

[@laharl2k]

wanswers But are all registers from all the chips read/write? maybe some are write only. Also another thing is hardware state, some parts of the hardware arent readable, much less from the cartridge. I'm not sure about that last but if the hardware has some internal settings and stuff and you reload state while they are different, then that's the only thing that i can imagine could cause it to fail in such a manner. It would be much clearer if we could take a look inside that cartridge and see if there's another sram, a microprocessor or what, to have a better idea as to what it's actually doing.

[@ZenPunk]

As to the affect on video quality, my guess is that it's injecting some electrical noise onto the power supply line to the SNES. I've had some similar issues with a poor quality AC adapter.

[@handznet]

American SNES is so ugly :(

[@JamesBond-dw9rn]

its beautiful actually

[@MegaNerdX]

+Anymynous Wumbo US SNES for life! Especially the mini version. Lover the grey and purple. Hate the SFamicim 4 color scheme.

[@JamesBond-dw9rn]

***** I actually like all the models but the US snes is not ugly.

[@MyPhobo]

+Jan Skácelík aw hell naw

[@chigimonky]

I'm really like the way the American Snes looks.

[@Phos9]

The super game boy doesn't work with it because the super game boy is basically a game boy that replaces the screen and buttons with a cartridge connector. It has the gameboy cpu and ram on the cartridge.