Lies about the Ka’aba and Black Stone! - Historical Anachronisms of the Qur'an - with Dr. Jay - E. 6

If the Qur'an is truly inspired by the divine then there should be no historical inaccuracies, yet Mecca is described as the most ancient and famous city in the world and the only owner of the Black Stone and Ka’aba. Yet history tells us that the Ka’aba was originally in Jerusalem with the Jews and the Black Stone moved to many locations before landing in Mecca. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay discuss the historical facts about the Ka’aba and the Black Stone. Spoiler alert! They don’t agree with the Qur'an.
Follow Jay Smith: / pfanderfilms
Join this channel to get access to perks and early premieres of videos:
/ @cirainternational
Follow CIRA International ®
Facebook: / cirainternational
Website: www.cirainternational.com
Support Al Fadi:
Patreon: / cirainternational
Website: cirainternational.com/support...
About CIRA International ®
CIRA's mission and goal is to; create awareness about Islam as a religion and political movement; inform and challenge the Church concerning outreach and evangelism to Muslims, equip the believers with effective outreach tools, and advance the Gospel message among our Muslim neighbors & communities so that the vast majority of Muslims will begin a Gospel conversation with a Christ-follower.
CIRA exists to mobilize the Body of Christ across North America, and globally, to more effectively reach Muslims with the Gospel, by discipling and equipping believers, and by empowering church and community leaders to influence the Muslim world for Christ.
#AlFadi #JaySmith #Islam #Mecca #pfanderfilms #quran #koran #false #falsenews #fake #fakenews #kaaba #blackstone

[@qetoun]

Let's not forget that worshiping a magic rock is paganism.

[@Jamal-rg6br]

Where ever we are in the east,north, south and west..we pray towards Kabaah..we don't worship that black stone..it's just our directional to pray. Just imagine if we are at the top of the sky and see all human being praying and bowing down in ONE DIRECTION to ALLAH the God of the whole universe...😊

[@fiditenemini2452]

​@@Jamal-rg6br so, you do not know your own "religion"...or Iie

[@richardkerns1709]

100%

[@Jamal-rg6br]

@@fiditenemini2452 up to you..I don't force you to believe me...am just giving info..

[@EvilHamster428]

@@Jamal-rg6br how about kissing that holy rock ? isn't it paganism?

[@akterhossain8139]

Truth is the biggest enemy of Islam.

[@richardkerns1709]

FACT !!!

[@trevorgriffiths5611]

Absolutely right..

[@thunderous-one]

And Alonzo Harris!

[@trevorgriffiths5611]

@@thunderous-one True very true 🤭

[@doyouknoworjustbelieve6694]

All religions are man made. 3/4 of the stories Quran are edited copies from Biblical myths and legends, which were made up by writers of the books that formed the Bible, or copied from ancient Babylonian, Greek, Canaanite and Egyptian myths. The similarities do not support the common divine origin, because these stories contradict science and proven history through archeology and comparative parallel human history. Biblical and Quranic morality is also focused on supremacy, exclusion, land annexation in the name of the divine, enslavement of women as sex slave, acceptance of slavery and belief in superstition, non existent beings, magic and the power of prayers.. Also a childish belief in eternal heaven and hell with various degrees of bodily pleasures or sadistic torture for ever and ever and ever…

[@Kumarapwmss1989]

Without lies islam dies

[@joinmyparty]

Without Jews christanity dies..... bible is not a word of god but it was authored by jews long after the death of Jesus. Jesus never preached bible, christanity or worshipping of Cross of Slavery.

[@williamgarayua5878]

Dear ​@@joinmyparty: But Quran testifies about BIBLE, explicitly mentioning TORAH & INJIIL, meaning Hebrew and Christian literature; So without that heritage Quran lose credibility and all of its Jewish prophets that are bearing Jewish names.

[@williamgarayua5878]

​@@joinmyparty: Regarding slavery, Moses delivered the Hebrews, and JESUS later came and said: -"No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you." (John 15:15)

[@bibledynasty5050]

And with Lies Islam thrives

[@hollyaldahir5116]

Without profanity, there is no Christianity.

[@CIRA-ru]

This set of episodes is really damaging. We've been waiting for it for a long time, finally now we have it all in one Playlist. Looking forward for making it available in Russian language. God bless brothers Al Fadi and Jay Smith!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

I wish it were in Spanish

[@defenderoftruth3212]

61:8. They want to extinguish the LIGHT of Allah with their MOUTHS, but Allah will PERFECT His light, although the disbelievers dislike it. -04-12-24

[@hmmmmmm69]

@@defenderoftruth3212 what light

[@ishakajalloh2090]

Numbers 23:19 19 God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. According to 😂😂 2 Kings 8:26, Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began to reign, and reigned for one year in Jerusalem. 2 Chronicles 22:2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri

[@runachan2910]

​@@ishakajalloh209042 is the year he ruled in his dynasty 22 was his age

[@Christangel342]

Islam was the same pagan practice carried out by the neighboring countries around Israel, the Baal worshippers has never ceased to exist, they only upgraded to Islam. The Bible refers to them as heathen.

[@pajohnson3041]

You are 💯 PERCENT true ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@eveyjd]

The new testament refers it as antichrist spirit

[@all41tja]

Upgrade?

[@trinitymatrix9719]

💯💯truth

[@AlonzoHarris235]

Is human sacrifice paganism?

[@lahleholivia7398]

Aelius Gallus led an army through todays Mecca region 2000 years ago and never reported the Kaaba.

[@richardkerns1709]

Because there was no Kabba that was another thing stolen by Islam from Israel also and they made it into a pagan worshipping temple or holy place it is not different than the golden calf it is Idolatry with that black stone sealing the deal.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@richardkerns1709 ..................... I don't know what happened to the people of Israel, if why inspite of the fact that it became the home of many Muslim prophets from Allah SWT, still they denied their prophets. I'm afraid that in the Hereafter, they will receive more sever punishment that those places with only one or a few prophets being sent to them. -05-03-24

[@Enjoyinformation-hi9uo]

You both are very special. Bringing so much information for everyone to understand or at least be aware of. Thank you.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Don't just swallow what they are saying. Second opinion is necessary, especially when it is coming from the real authority. -04-14-24

[@saraoostrum300]

I love all these informations. They are getting muslim out the mess

[@AndronikosNikephoros]

We Greeks destroyed ancient paganism when we converted to Christianity ☦️ but Arabs just promoted paganism when they created islam 7 centuries later

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

No, the Arabs returned to the true faith when they believed in Islam. Abraham, Moses, Joseph, and Yahya. They all believed in God Almighty, just as we Muslims believe. Abraham and Moses died believing in the Great God. They did not know that God would transform into a human. We returned to the true faith. I am an Egyptian who returned to Islam, which is the religion of my ancestors 7,000 years ago. Did you know that Constantine When he allowed belief in Christianity, Constantine and those who came after him issued orders to kill any Egyptian who rejected Christianity? Constantine and those who came after him issued an order to demolish the ancient temples of my true Muslim ancestors and turn the temples into churches when Islam came a second time to Egypt with Amr ibn al-Aas and 4000 soldiers. The Egyptians welcomed them and helped them conquer Byzantine. Egypt was liberated from the occupation of Byzantine and the Egyptians returned to Islam. Praise be to God, I am a Muslim and I thank the Almighty that Muslims They saved us in Egypt and introduced us to Islam, which happened in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Jordan, Libya, Tunisia and Morocco. All these peoples knew the truth, so they returned to Islam and abandoned the human god. You, sir, are unfortunately wrong. You believe that a human being prostrated to God and cried out to God and said, “My father is greater than me.” He said, “Why do you call me good?” Only God is good. Please think deeply to see the light of truth, to see the light of God and His religion, Islam

[@AndronikosNikephoros]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e The only Reason why Egyptian Culture still alive is thanks to Christians not to islamic arabs. Ancient egyptians use to HATE ASIANS and we can read it in Hieroglyphs all about Egypt , they called the Asians as Bastard Invaders so trust me if Ancient Egyptians would return to life they would Kick Arab islamic invaders out of their lands ! A Genocide religion that is nothing witout a Sword !

[@ianjacobs2998]

7000 yrs ago🤣🤣🤣🤣🤐🤐🤐🤡

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@ianjacobs2998 yes

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@ianjacobs2998 Yes, sir, this is recorded history written on the walls of our temples (our ancient mosques) and cemeteries. The inscriptions have been present for 7,000 years, so we suffice and say our civilization is only 7,000 years old, but it is much further than that, but there are no writings, so we suffice as an example. We have a demolished temple southwest of Aswan 14,000 years ago, but it does not have an inscription on it, so we do not mention it, sir. Will we suffice? Did you know that God sent prophets to every place in the world? To every people, God sent a prophet who would teach them, guide them, and lead them to His ways. He sent prophets to Japan, to China, India, Iran, Italy, Egypt, Syria, Nigeria, Mexico, etc. Therefore, you find similarities and overlap between the religions known now, and unfortunately those who do not know reject the similarity and rapprochement. The overlap, but the overlap, is evidence that God sent his prophets to the world, as the Qur’an told us. Did you know that most Egyptians are Christians and Muslims who follow the teachings of the ancient Egyptian philosopher Plotinus? He lived in Alexandria 200 years AD. All the Christian monks echo his ideas. All the Muslim mystics repeat his sayings about God and how to abandon your burdens. The requirements of your body in order to reach God and rise in knowledge to behold God. The Muslims stole some of Plotinus’ sayings and attributed them to God. Yes, they said that they were holy hadiths that God revealed to the Prophet in the books of heritage. This exists.

[@adrine5193]

NO LIES NO ISLAM FINISHED BAY BAY 😂

[@jibsonestopshopmachineries417]

Delusional 😅

[@trevorgriffiths5611]

@jazzymilesmiles3308Clearly more than you do 😂..

[@Jomgg]

@jazzymilesmiles3308refute them and stop talking, the fact Mecca isn’t found on the maps in any historical context should be alarming for you

[@sultanahamed2484]

Lies means definition pls Hitler bush Tony Blair spoke golden truth to attack the innocent unarmed people of Iraq ur people lies definition is this

[@sattaurnikki]

You are the idiot for believing anything about the kaaba! ​@jazzymilesmiles3308

[@leechrec]

Muslims putting their head into that toilet bowl is always kinda funny.

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

Dear Sir, we know our religion well. What is said in the video is not true

[@ente_kadang2_ya158]

brother it's not toilet bowl but it's come from angel. angels toilets bowl in heaven😂

[@KeithWilliamMacHendry]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Well, produce the evidence to counter claim then? There is no credible evidence worthy of name to substantiate the fantastical claims of the Quran worthy of name. In fact, there is no credible evidence to back the claims of all the Abrahamic faiths. However, there is plenty evidence that the Quran heavily plagiarises the old & new testaments. One thing for sure, Jesus was a Jew, he was never a prophet for islam. Those that peddle the claims of Mohammed live a life of wishful thinking & pure fantasy. Islam is a cult religion that conditions its children from birth to believe in unprovable nonsense. Islam is a clear & present danger to secular society & humanity.

[@rogerjamespaul5528]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e If it makes you happy to live a lie, then Okay.

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@rogerjamespaul5528 I live the truth, sir. You live the lie. You are a god. It is impossible for a child to be on his mother’s chest

[@agalphaga]

If mekka was an old city where is the ancient cemetery old ruined buildings houses arts stones nothing

[@QueenQaffir]

There’s a reason they don’t dig there. They know they won’t find anything. Now go to Israel and ur lucky to find a spot that hasn’t been shoveled.

[@MichaelPetek]

It's possible that "Mecca" is related to "makaan", which is Arabic for "place". The Hebrew "makom" has the same meaning. It is a euphemism for the Temple or the Sanctuary which, to begin with, was portable. "Mecca", then, means any place where the Kaaba happens to be for the time being. Including Petra. Just as an aircraft becomes Air Force One as soon as the President of the United States steps aboard.

[@jester56]

Even show me a 5th, 6th, or 7th century map, that has Mecca on it. Seems to me No-one knew it was there 😊

[@munteza9262]

​@@jester56dont exist 😂

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@QueenQaffir .................. Israel is the home of many prophets, where are their graves? -04-12-24

[@drummersagainstitk]

Thank you for all your work.

[@alexandernorman5337]

Flavius Josephus was a 1st to early 2nd century Jewish historian, if anyone is wondering.

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

Before Josephus, Herodotus was a Greek historian, and others said that he was a Syrian who preceded Josephus by 500 years. He lived in the Arab region, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan. He arrived in Yemen on a ship and wrote about everything he saw. He did not mention anything about Jerusalem. He did not mention anything about a Jewish group. He never mentioned anything about Israel. So what is it called? that? His writings were in the years 450 and 435 before the birth of Jesus

[@alexandernorman5337]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Great, naturally not every human being on the face of the Earth will write about any particular city. But we DO KNOW that Jerusalem existed and that Judah existed during that time because WE DO have Egyptian, Assyrian, Persian, etc. records for their kings's dealings with them. We also know that in the first few centuries post Babylonian exile that Jerusalem was a rather small and unimportant city. (Because it had recently been destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar - confirmed by Babylonian records.) And the Bible confirms this too. The original Second Temple wasn't anywhere near as stately or grand as Solomon's. And it wouldn't be until the Herodians that Jerusalem regained some prominence. There has never even been one writing from a historian which mentions Mecca - or any major trade city where Mecca now is. There is not one royal document which mentions it.

[@richardthornhill4630]

Continue exposes the lies of deception.

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

Information is not accurate and biased

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@richardthornhill4630 ............... That is if you believe in their lies and deception. -05-03-24

[@joesaba386]

​@@defenderoftruth3212Yes like you.

[@AWW8472]

Why would Muhammad want a sparsely populate oasis settlement on the fringes of the empty quarter? Matthew 12:43 An Unclean Spirit Returns (Luke 11:24-26) “When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none.

[@ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439]

Good point

[@maorthekinglong]

He wanted to prof the Jews he was a new profet

[@user-vw4zb9rq6y]

This is where most of the followers of the bible are kept underwraps about the verses in Gospel of John chapter 16 v.12-14. The churches hid the truth of authenticity and never wanted to clarify it was who ?

[@AWW8472]

@user-vw4zb9rq6y The present-day disciples of Jesus Christ are led and empowered by the Holy Spirit. We use His gifts and bare His fruit by doing good works, bringing glory to the Name of LORD Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit was poured out on the disciples of Jesus on the day of Pentecost starting the Church age. That Spirit of Truth has not ended His ministry within the Church. I pray the slaves of the false god of the dead man Muhammad be freed to become children of the Living LORD, the Eternal Father of Jesus the Christ.

[@samiaziz5]

Allah the Pagan ☪ Moon god.. ▪︎°Robert Morey's 1994 book Moon-god in the Archeology of the Middle East revives Hugo Winckler's identification of Hubal as a moon god, and claims that worship of Allah evolved from that of Hubal, thus making Allah a "moon god" too. ▪︎ After Muhammad entered Mecca in 630, he destroyed the statue of Hubal from the Kaaba along with 360 idols of all the other polytheistic gods. ▪︎ Al-'Uzza, al-Lat and Manah, the three daughters of Allah, had their sanctuaries in the land which later became the cradle of Islam. In a weak moment Muhammad was tempted to recognize these powerful deities of Makkah and al-Madinah and make a compromise in their favour, but afterwards he retracted and the revelation is said to have received the form now found in Quran 53:19-20.

[@dothackoblivion]

Would be great is he actually existed lol. Someone may have been influenced by pagan dirties, but it wasn’t Muhammed.

[@user-vw4zb9rq6y]

The context that you have attempted to distort using only a single verse without quoting the full context in Quran that makes your statement a fabricated lie. Surah An Najm chapter 53 Allah says in the Quran 19. Have you then considered Al-Lat and Al-Uzza(two idols of the pagan arabs). 20. And Manat (another idol of the pagan arabs), the other third? 21. Is it for you, the males, and for him, the females? 22. That indeed is a division most unfair! 23. They are but names which you have named -you and your fathers -for which Allah has sent down no authority. It is very clear that Allah did not have any daughters or to worship in the sanctuaries of land, as it mentions that these are idols made by pagan arabs, and prophet Muhammad (PBUH)was commanded by Allah to convey the message that there is none worthy of worship except Allah. Unfortunately Robert morey did not understand the true concept of God through his own faith or scripture, when the churches hid the truth by altering and tampering the bible into English, which it mentions about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Solomon 5:16 in hebrew authentic bible language. Also, in other parts of the bible. I feel sorry for this guy, although their innerself pretends to accept the false knowing the truth. No where god (Allah) has mentioned to worship his creations ( sun, moon & the stars) than only God (Allah) himself. May Allah guide all in the straight path.

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

It is He who created the night and the day, the sun and the moon, each swimming in an orbit

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

And if you asked them who created the heavens and the earth and subjected the sun and the moon, they would surely say, “God,” then how can they be fooled?

[@pajohnson3041]

Satan's invention 😢 Strange religion 🙀🙀

[@ehhe4381]

Sahih Muslim 146 It id narrated on the authority of Ibn 'Umar ('Abdullah b. 'Umar) that the messenger of Allah (saw) observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it will again revert to being strange just as it started, and it will recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.

[@jacquelinelion9879]

😊 it's a cult

[@sultanahamed2484]

S Satan deceived Mary in the donn of jibreal

[@ehhe4381]

huh?

[@user-kb8wl1do1d]

Cult and pagan religion

[@steavemandang]

Mr. Al Fadi And Mr. Smith, please put the references that you mention about the history of the black stone, what documents you have, and the references from Josephus about Marwa an Saffa. put it on screen or put the references on the description above.

[@arifsoetanto7533]

Read Fountains of Knowledge by John of Damascus

[@bankubanga789]

Is that the book where John of Damascus goes in on islam?​@@arifsoetanto7533

[@hambam7533]

great info gentlemen i am sure many muslims are learning the truth and leaving islam in spades

[@ryantaylor731]

I agree with you mate the problem is most Muslims are so brainwashed by it they will simply refuse to believe you no matter how much evidence you have 🙄

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@hambam7533 ...................... One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -04-12-24

[@joylyfe1435]

We are happy to bring more Muslims in Islam 😊 peace ✌️

[@rockzalt]

For all anyone knows, the Ka'aba and the 10th century Ottoman fort may have been built at the same time using the same stones.

[@jancjmusic772]

Very informative ..i learned something new today.. as a foreigner who worked and lived in Saudi, & Bahrain many many years ago this story took me to another understanding about my old point of view about written misinformation about Ka'aba

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

What is the meaning of the Kaaba? We say Ka'b al-Ahbar (the name of a Jewish character who converted to Islam at the time of the Prophet). Any man to whom the rabbis return and learn from him is the center of the news and the focal point of the news. Likewise, the Kaaba is the place to which people go to worship God and perform Hajj. The Kaaba is the center and focus of Islamic places for worshiping God. The Qur’an says that the Kaaba is the first house on earth. People worship God there and pray and communicate with God there. The Kaaba did not take its name from the geometric shape of a cube, but it took the name because it is the focus and center of worship. Abraham and Ishmael, peace be upon them, rebuilt it among the Samaritan Jews who believed in the first books of Moses (5) holy books. They say that Ishmael was the one who built the Kaaba. Books What is sacred to the Samaritans is older than the sacred books of the Jews. Is the Black Stone sacred? Of course not. It is a unique stone that people placed at the Kaaba so that they would know the number of times they circumambulated around the Kaaba (circles). However, many Muslims sanctified it. I am a Muslim. I consider the sanctification of the Black Stone to be a remnant of the paganism that entered the Muslims historically. The Qarmatians stole this stone and said that it was ancient paganism before recovering it from them. The strongest group of Muslims, Ptolemy, in the second century AD, mentioned Mecca in his writings. The Babylonians, two thousand years before the birth of Christ, mentioned Mecca as (Makkurba). In ancient history, there is Mecca. Some researchers said it was the name of a god, but what is surprising is that Arab historians did not mention his name as a god. They mentioned the names of all... The ancient gods in the region did not mention Maqah. Other researchers say that (Maqah) is a phonetic derivation of Lal Mek = for the god of Mecca, as is the case with (Baalbek Baal Bek) (Babylon Bab El) (Bilqis Baal Qais) Heodotus is a famous historian who lived before Christ 438 after the return of the Jews from The Babylonian captivity, as the legend says. Some say he was Syrian, others say he was a Greek. He wrote about the region and did not mention Jerusalem, nor did he mention Israel or the Jewish religious community. Should we deny the existence of the Jews because Herodotus did not mention them in his writings? The same is the case with Mecca. It did not appear suddenly in history. Greetings to you. I wish happiness and peace for humanity.

[@leprojetveinesdesdeserts.6311]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Mecca is not even 1000 years old. What are you saying ?

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@leprojetveinesdesdeserts.6311 اكاذيب يخدعكم رجال الدين وعلماء التاريخ التابعين للكنيسه فمثلا هيرودوت عاش في المنطقه سنوات وسنوات زار مصر وسوريا ووصل الي اليمن وكتب تاريخه ولم يذكر ان في المنطقه يهود ولم يذكر القدس ولا ارض اليهوديه فهل نلغي وجودهم لان هيرودوت لم يذكرهم في كتبه؟ سيدي مكه مزكوره في التاريخ منذ 3500سنه في النقوش الاشوريه مكه مزكوره من 3000سنه في النقوش اليمنيه وتاريخ مكه مذكور ومسجل في النقوش اليمنيه قبل 4000سنه مسجل انتقال ابراهيم اليها وكيف انتقل الحشمونين اليها وكيف تكونت قبيله قريش فيها وقبيله جرهم الي مكه كل ذلك مدون في تاريخ اليمن وطبعا لم يقل ذلك ابدا لك المؤرخين التابعين لكنيستك هل تعرف لماذا لايذكرون لك ذلك؟لان النقوش اليمنيه تذكر ان موسي وداوود وسليمان وايوب وابراهيم ولوط وهود ويعقوب كلهم عاشوا وماتوا في اليمن لذلك لايخبروك عن مكه المذكوره في سجلات اليمن لكنهم يخدعونك باكاذيبهم ان المقه هي مكان في اليمن ولايذكرون ان المقه هو ايل مقه اي اله مقه اله مكه ياسيدي نحن العرب نعرف تاريخنا جيدا فنحن نعيش التاريخ ومحبوسين في التاريخ ه

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@leprojetveinesdesdeserts.6311 Unfortunately, you believe the lies of your clergy and the lies of historians affiliated with the church. The truth is, Mecca was written in Assyrian records and inscriptions 3,500 years ago. Mecca was also mentioned in Yemeni inscriptions 4,000 years ago, but they never told you that. It is written on stones in Yemen. Mecca. Mecca. Mecca = Il Mecca = God. Mecca = God of Mecca. They are. They will not tell you that because the Yemeni inscriptions record Abraham, Jacob, Hood, Moses, Pharaoh, Solomon, David, Lot, Job. All of these prophets lived and died in Yemen, so they will not tell you the truth. Herodotus is an ancient historian who lived in the fifth century BC. He lived in Syria for a time and in Egypt. He moved to Yemen and wrote about the history of the region and its cities. And its peoples, but he did not mention Jerusalem in his writings. He did not mention anything about the land of Judaism or Judaism as a religion. Can we cancel the existence of the land of Judaism, the religion of Judaism, and the city of Jerusalem because Herodotus did not mention it in his book?

[@pinoydataanalyst1705]

Other cities in the area were mentioned in historical documents, but mecca supposed to be the earliest and greatest city have no mention in any historical documents prior to 8th century AD

[@stargategoku]

tama ka kabayan :)

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@stargategoku ........................ One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -04-12-24

[@stargategoku]

@defenderoftruth3212 you are wrong about John 17.3. This is the complete verse of John 17.3 "the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." You missed out the "AND" intentionally. You also missed.out to read John 17.1 and John 17.5 If someone like this priest, it doesn't mean islam is correct. He missed to read that pedo mo married a child and visited his adopted son's wife while his adopted son was away. This don't know the bible itself because moon god lah's book was full of errors, inconsistencies, incoherent in terms of historical, logical,.moral, origin and empirical evidence.

[@richardkerns1709]

I listen to alot of Dr. Jay and they can not dispute the history of non evidence for the existence of Muhammad, Mecca, or the Quran and he proves it. Even Muhammad's biography was written by a old German author literally thousands of miles away and thousands of years after his supposed death which I am not buying that either, the guy never even knew Muhammad or anyone associated with him but yet wrote his biography ?🤔

[@stargategoku]

@@defenderoftruth3212 this bishop was decieved by dawah team. and it's not enough to prove moon god lah's book was true but it was full of errors, inconsistencies and incoherent in term of historical, logical, moral, origin and empirical evidence. for example surah 11, surah 20, surah 28, surah 5, surah 12, surah 34, surah 66, surah 18, surah 66, surah 2, surah 41 vs surah 79. everything is wrong for example surah as-samiri built idol calf in surah 20 and existed at the same timeline of moses which is a huge mistake because as-samiri and moses had almost 800 years gap and also it's not as-samiri were not the one who built idol calf. do you believe on this? . another historical error is haman in surah 28, haman existed at the same timeline of pharoah. again this is a huge mistake because there's 700 gap between them. who is haman? haman existed in book of esther. another mistake in moon god lah's book is surah 11, where one of noah's sons was drowned, this is a big mistake. how come moon god lah didn't know the old testament about noah. another mistake is mary sister of aaron surah 19 and her father's name is imran in surah 66. mary was from tribe of judah and moses from tribe of levi. this is a big mistake by moon god lah that mixed up between maryam the sister of moses and mary the mother of JESUS. surah 86.6-7 gushiing fluid of woman from ribs and man's gushing fluid from backbone, do you believe this? this is a huge mistake again? surah 18.86, the sun sets in the murky water and mo pdfile confirmed this Sunan Abi Dawud 4002, do you believe this tons of errors in moon god lah's book.

[@QueenQaffir]

Who else sees the ad of the near 20 yo muslima begging to stop war bc she’s a “child” and think “but u argue Aisha wasn’t”?

[@donprovolone1425]

She also has zero accent and looks healthy as can be. Im sure she's not an actor lol

[@mysotiras21]

Bingo!

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@QueenQaffir .............. Maybe your eyes are now a little bit blurry.

[@mysotiras21]

@@defenderoftruth3212 , his eyes are blurry because he has been LAUGHING at Islam until the tears came. So have I.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@mysotiras21 .................................. Laugh all you can throughout your life. After all, your ending is all crying and screaming and begging. -04-13-24

[@sushiboy9693]

Amazing as always, I might have missed the topic regarding the movements of the black stone, probably from previous episodes, is it possible for any one to provide the names or the documents or books mentioning the move all the way to the south? Thank you as this will help me with a case I have right now with regards to my own research

[@xavierbesnard9201]

Huge ! congratulations !

[@SupaKio]

We pray for our Muslim brothers and sisters, may the light and truth of Jesus Christ be revealed them; but not only them, all those who need to be awoken to the glory of the resurrection ✝️🙏🏼

[@user-rg9jp9md8x]

Lol that doesn't mean Christianity is true either 🤣😂

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@SupaKio ....................... 61:8. They want to extinguish the LIGHT of Allah with their MOUTHS, but Allah will PERFECT His light, although the disbelievers dislike it. -04-12-24

[@justaminute3111]

@@user-rg9jp9md8xDeflection alert!

[@emilianoespiritu9637]

​@@defenderoftruth3212it is already completely destroyed. You just have a blind eyes denying it is absurd, your religion

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@emilianoespiritu9637 .......................... What is astonishing is that no matter how Jay Smith and his cohorts tried to demolish Islam, the conversion of priests and pastors is unstoppable. Is this not a thing worth pondering for? -04-22-24

[@SamStGeorge]

Safa is from the Hebrew eord Tsofim. Which is the Scopus Mount in Hebrew

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

Do you have a manuscript in Hebrew? Its time? The Jews, Moses, Abraham, Ishmael, Joseph, Solomon, David, and Yahya are all Arabs who spoke Arabic but did not know Hebrew. If you have a manuscript in Hebrew, please submit it. The oldest manuscript in Hebrew dates back to how many years? Is there any archaeological trace or inscription on stone, metal, or leather that confirmed the presence of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, and Solomon in Palestine? Israel formed a committee to excavate for any trace that confirms the Biblical story for twenty years. Dr. Herzog said, “We have not found any trace that confirms the Biblical story, and there is no trace that confirms the existence of the Torah stories in Palestine or Israel, but the Palestinians have thousands of evidence of their existence from thousands of years ago. Canaanite inscriptions on stone and metal. What do they explain? That?Do you lay your head down without thinking?

[@collybever]

The black stone's movements could probably be more clearly described there, with references. John of Damascus also had the idea that it was originally a statue of Diana, roughened up for reuse, so it would be interesting if its impressive manoevres could be definitively (or at least fairly reliably) proven. But Mecca does not look to be in the Hijaz, if we regard that as the home town of whoever wrote the Quran, or its major author. Features of the Hajj are "copy-pastes" and also some myth making about Abraham, Ishmael and Hagar that isn't feasible.

[@oekmama]

Do you mean the Artemis of Ephesus?

[@BellaCroyda]

Excellent video.

[@Happydays134]

Those historical artefacts are the gifts that keep on giving ✊

[@CRi5_Ralph]

Thank You for your honesty sir.

[@RobertEMason]

Excellent video!

[@gilbertjones9157]

There is an idea that would make a very interesting video idea: Let everyone know what has been the impact of all your videos to date on the Muslim Community. There has been some Muslim commercials played on you videos. I have not seen many since Oct 7 and those I have seen are related to IDF efforts in Gaza or Lebanon. There had been some before Oct 7 speaking to mostly in Arabic needed contribution to support and build mosques in NY/NJ/Florida but have not seen any recently. Basically have your videos making a dent in their numbers?

[@peterjackson2625]

Very interesting.

[@karthigeyanarunasalam3700]

Truth is big and strong. Lies just multiply exponentially but gets destroyed instantly.

[@kratu23]

Excellent explanation and clarity. I think the circumambulating tradition and that too 7 times goes way back to Vedic civilization which was the most prevalent ideology since ages.

[@marcushans4317]

Praise the Lord in Christ Jesus🙏 God bless you

[@123dsj123]

In Islam, the eternally un-created Quran is older than the followings: (1) Baking Soda (2) Credit Card (3) Human Beings (4) Lights (6) The Big Bang (7) Creation In other words, in the eternity past, before creation, there were only two who existed: (1) Allah and (2) the Quran. But Allah speaks about an honorable messenger who spoke the eternally un-created Quran into existence: In Quran 81: 19-21, Allah says, “Verily, this (Quran) is the word of an honorable messenger, endured with power, and with rank before the Lord of the throne.” * This honorable messenger must be older than the eternally un-created Quran in order to speak the eternally un-created Quran into existence. At first, this may sound confusing, but Quran 2:2 assures us of the reliability of the Quran. It reads, “This book (Quran) is free of doubt (confusion, disbelief, or distrust).” * CONCLUSION: If the eternally un-created Quran is the word of an honorable messenger, then the honorable messenger is older than the eternally un-created Quran. This points to Islam having three different eternally un-created beings: (1) Allah, (2) the honorable messenger who spoke the eternally un-created Quran into existence, and (3) the Quran, which according to Islam, is eternally un-created.

[@jdschauss]

Lucifer always counterfeits real worship of The Almighty, so it makes perfect sense that in his book he would create an anti-trinity.

[@user-ex9pc9ps8x]

Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.

[@garethdavies8673]

Very interesting thank you

[@joeynanez9897]

Off topic Just wanted to know about Hatun ?

[@quaesitor-scientiae]

Yea, what happened to her ? I heard so many rumours from kidnapping, killed to held hostage.

[@createinmeacleanheartohgod6871]

Hatun is still alive. She was advised to not go to the park to debate because she had threats from islamists. The problem with Hatun is she would provoke muslims by having the quran "holed". Remember, she is dealing with satanic people, just debate intellectually like the rest of Christian apologists and you'll be fine.

[@joeynanez9897]

@quaesitor-scientiae exactly I don't know. David Wood said she was OK and she had sent him a message but that was like 3-4 months ago and I'm worried for her .

[@user-tp3hg4se1s]

Maybe under police protection program. I'm guessing

[@joeynanez9897]

@user-tp3hg4se1s I hope, I just want to be sure she is ok

[@ryanparris1021]

Guys be cool with @alonzo harris. He’s celebrating the eternal Quran’s 100th Birthday today! Congrats on a full century 🎉 buddy! Eternal=younger than some people alive today! Wait a second…

[@hmmmmmm69]

I think he needs 2 right hands

[@defenderoftruth3212]

It seems that Alonzo Harris has really nailed you down. -04-16-24

[@ryanparris1021]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Yup. Honestly his incredible ability to expose how terrified I am of him keeps me up at night. Crap..do you remember how to make my comments in the sarcasm font? My knowledge on that was abrogated.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@ryanparris1021 ...................... What I see in you is your ire towards Alonzo Harris. It means that he hurts you so much. Be cool. Hatred would diminish your knowledge. It will limit your interest to search for truth. Don't confine yourself to one area of knowledge. Be inquisitive. -04-20-24

[@ryanparris1021]

@@defenderoftruth3212 Nah buddy…you completely misread the situation. If you just started frequenting these comment sections, let’s agree to disagree for now and we’ll check back in about a year from now. However, I will at least consider your comment here when you link comments to him asking him to pull back. See ya in 2025!

[@user-fj2zc9iz5u]

Couldn't Al Fadi just silently be giving a thumbs up and let Jay do all the talking? Wouldn't that be better?

[@arwandajunior1122]

Very fascinating 🤔🤔

[@truefaith4200]

Islam associated black stone with AL LAH where the black stone erases sins. And it will has eyes, hands, mouth, and will be able to talk in the resurrection day. Amazing teachings of Islam!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

😂 a rock? This is new age garbage... Using stones....

[@sattaurnikki]

How can your sins be forgiven by a dead rock? Come to JESUS, He is alive and and can forgive your sins.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@truefaith4200 .............. Amazing but true.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@sattaurnikki ........................ All wishful thinking.

[@user-it5qe2zn8f]

See the man can't listen to the lies of his stone... You see and I already researched about this rock.. The myth created by phoinecians and Romans then copyrighted by there fake prophet and this guy can't listen to the English.. Of course not..

[@mickey1cg708]

Muslims just prove what u say.

[@Kumarapwmss1989]

Get out

[@mickey1cg708]

@@Kumarapwmss1989 They are never going to prove anything. They say they believe. We Christians believe too and back up anything about Christianity

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@Kumarapwmss1989 ............... One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -04-12-24

[@willz.7141]

Is it possible to have the source about Josephus Flavius and safa and marwa?

[@willz.7141]

Nice

[@MishiRmz]

Dr Smith 🙌🙌🙌

[@byronumphress3805]

🕊JOHN 14:26, 14:6, 3:3-5, THEN REPENT OF YOUR SINS 🕊REVELATION 2:17, I RECEIVED A WHITE STONE, AS IT JUST MYSTERIOUSLY APPEARED IN MY KJV BIBLE 🕊REVELATION 3:10, 20:6, 7:14 🕊OPHANIM 🛸 ✝️🌹🕊GOD BLESS ALL, SHALOM

[@byronumphress3805]

🕊I RECEIVED A BIBLICAL MESSAGE, 5/22/2020, STARTED NEW JOB AT DOING THE LORD’S WORK, SON OF MAN, FEEDING THE HUNGRY, SHALOM

[@byronumphress3805]

🕊I WAS DIPPING A PIECE OF BREAD INTO A BOWL OF OLIVE OIL, THEN MY HAND JUST WENT DOWN ON THE EDGE OF THE BOWL, THE OIL SPLASHED UPON MY FACE AND HAIR, I HAD KNOWN OF QUEEN ESTHERS FASTING, SO I RESEARCHED THE HEBREW TRADITION OF ANOINTING, SO I THEN WENT THREE DAYS NO FOOD OR WATER AND ANOINTING DAILY, AS I BELIEVE GOD ALMIGHTY ELOHIM, HAD A HAND IN THIS HAPPENING, SHALOM

[@shanthisrinath8823]

What a great heart break for those Muslims whose dream was to visit once in life time, 5:00 their religious place Mecca ,now turned out to be false. Truth should be the bace of any religion or faith.

[@ginavega6458]

Like the soda bottle falling from an airplane in "The Gods Must br Crazy." 😂😂😂😂😂

[@PastorwithoutaPulpit]

Man, book, city if any of these are false so is their whole religion according to their own teaching. The man, (their false prophet if he ever existed), wasn't written about until 180+ years at the earliest after he supposedly lived. There are still 31+ different qurans that can be found and bought today teaching some 93,000+ significant doctrinal differences. The city itself simply does not exist on any early maps we have from that time period as there was no water supply there. If just one of their tenants are proven false none of them can be true. What do you call a three legged stool with no legs? Useless. Come home to Christ where we've faced all the critics and proven so many of their arguments false. Many a critic has been determined to disprove Christianity but found their faith instead, which is different from any other religion on earth...

[@richardkerns1709]

There is no disputing the historic facts yet they will say your information is wrong as well as literally thousands of historians, authors, scholars, archaeologist and some even eye witness accounts of no existence at all of the Kabba, Mecca or even Muhammad and the Quran.

[@user-rg9jp9md8x]

Lol that doesn't mean Christianity is true either, how people can be this stupid😂 🤣

[@defenderoftruth3212]

Saudi Arabia was lush and green during the pre-historic period. -04-12-24

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@richardkerns1709 ..................... What about the Caliphs that spread Islam into as far as Spain? Are they not witnesses? -04-12-24

[@user-rg9jp9md8x]

Prove me Christianity is true

[@joshuaharahap2227]

Difference Kabaa vs Pyramid Kabaa : House Of Al Lah, Build By angels, Ibrahim and Ismael, destroy 20 times, Stolen Black Stone one time for 22 years (After Muhammad death) Pyramid : House Of Pharaohs, Enemy Of Al Lah, Thousand of years never destroy once, A Miracle of Creation 😂😂😂😇😇

[@thunderous-one]

That’s an interesting comparison

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@joshuaharahap2227 .................. That's quite an ignorant comparison. Ka'aba was built by Abraham and Ishmael only. It's only made of bricks of stones piled up to serve as wall so that prayer can be conducted inside. Pyramids were made by thousands of the subjects of Pharaoh for a long period of time. -04-12-24

[@thunderous-one]

@@defenderoftruth3212 where is the evidence……. That Abraham contributed to the building of Kaaba? That Ishmael contributed to the building of Kaaba? Or why… That neither the Hebrew or Greek scriptures never mention Kaaba? That no prophet ever mentions Kaaba? No other faith system even mentions Kaaba? Or That the Kaaba existed ore 7th century?

[@thunderous-one]

@@defenderoftruth3212 also, according to Islamic tradition, it was 90ft Adam who built original Kaaba, so, why did you fail to mention this?

[@wakuwakuX]

Have you ever seen some videos showing 90ft adam's graveyard? My first thought, was it adam or anaconda lying there😂

[@moemara9506]

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 96: Most surely the first house appointed for men is the one at Bekka, blessed and a guidance for the nations. (English - Shakir)

[@arivaanggreini7990]

To admin CIRA. Can you make this vidio with another language s like Arabic,India,Pakistan,Indonesia,?

[@fantasia55]

The name Elagabalus refers to the god Baal.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@fantasia55 .................... Sounds similar to Bulus whom your scholars claimed that it is Paul. Therefore, Paul is the personification of the pagan god Ba'al. -05-03-24

[@fantasia55]

@@defenderoftruth3212 alrighty then

[@thunderous-one]

Without lies, Alonzo Harris has nothing to say.

[@jegannagaseras6323]

Sir I found this video.. It's mazing try to zoom in. At the starting of that video, maybe be u may explain about it.. It's really scary the face as a beast Someone is wiping the kaaba with green cloth.. Try to zoom in towards the wiping place.. U can see a face.. Uhh. As it is asura

[@curtdevere1891]

Spend some time researching the life of the Roman emperor Elagabalus and his pet rock. Some of the coins minted during his reign even have pictures of it. He brought the rock to Rome from Syria, and after his assassination it was shipped back to Syria. It was rediscovered some time later by some Arab tribes, and eventually it found its way to Mecca.

[@user-tr8pc9ym9g]

how isnt this more recognized by the public or academya or goverments overall? this proofs a lot that people follows a blind cult.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

One verse in the Bible that made Bishop KLEOPAS DACLAN of the Philippines converted to Islam: JOHN 17:3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. Bishop Kleopas Daclan was a priest for 21 years at the Catholic Orthodox Church. He studied Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin, Greek languages, and found out that the translation of the Bible into English is totally erroneous. He then changed his name to MUSA IBRAHIM. Isn’t this worth pondering for? -04-12-24

[@thunderous-one]

So does tabernacle = Mecca due to relocation? That is to say, prior to the temple the NoI used the portable tabernacle and wherever it was pitched was deemed holy, thus in comparison, Mecca, was a portable location deformed worship?

[@cyrusthegreat3081]

3:54 when Al Fadi said he is playing devils advocate he meant it 😂

[@salancy3279]

✝️❤️💐😇🙏👍👌

[@gail2698]

Islam has 3 god Moon God Black stone and Muhammad

[@maryblessing2205]

Your three gods were not The Creator. Fast and pray for Yahweh’s truth. 🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖🙏📖

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

no only one God

[@jooo7011]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e Abu al-Fida Isma'il ibn Umar ibn Kathir al-Dimashqi ,al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī and Jafar al-Sadiq 34.12-13 21.78-82 flying carpet in kuran .

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@jooo7011 My beloved, unfortunately I did not understand your words, Your Honor. You mentioned Ibn Kathir, a Salafist sheikh who is ignorant of Islam. He has an interpretation of the Qur’an whose interpretation is stupid and far from the true understanding of the Qur’an. As for Al-Hasan Al-Basri, I do not know much about him, and Jaafar Al-Sadiq is a great man and a pious Muslim who knows Islam and is a teacher with extensive knowledge, and our Shiite brothers consider him one of their nation. But the three Muslims, none of them said that Christ is a god. They said that Christ is one of God’s prophets

[@jooo7011]

@@user-wc7ku7ud3e -Jaafar Al-Sadiq is a great man and a pious Muslim who knows Islam and is a teacher with extensive knowledge, and our Shiite brothers consider him one of their nation- Solomon (‘A)’s Ring According to Imam Ja’far al-Sadiq (‘a), Allah (SwT) had placed Solomon (‘a)’s power and authority in his ring. Whenever he put it on, the jinns, the humans, the demons, the birds, and all animals would be under his power and would obey him. He would then sit on his throne and Allah (SwT) would send the wind to carry the throne and his train of demons, birds, humans, animals, horses, etc., and would go wherever Solomon (‘a) wanted to. This is the meaning of verses 12 and 13 of Surah Saba’ (Ch. 34) and also 21:81-82. Solomon (‘a) would say his morning prayers in Syria and his noon prayers in Persia. So you have flying carpet in kuran. Why al lah corrupt text about flying carpet in your kuran?

[@nahdsaeed2068]

The Lost Early History of Unitarian Christian Theology As I’m again working on some of these early catholic unitarians, I thought I’d re-post this talk I gave in May of 2013, at the Theological Conference in Atlanta. (Here are the slides if you want to click through them as you listen.) This was just before I started the podcast. The paper moves quickly through some big names of pre-Nicene catholic Christianity. I show that they were to a man unitarians, and not trinitarians, as many would prefer to believe. This has been pointed out in some detail before, in the 17th century, in the 18th century, and again in the 19th century. On the whole, the trinitarian tradition prefers not to hear the detailed case for this. It raises too many uncomfortable questions. This is why they keep forgetting or covering up these facts. Since this talk I have continued to work in more depth on Tertullian, resulting in this podcast and this published paper. God willing, a revised version of this talk will be a chapter in a future book. Many thanks to Sharon and Dan Gill for recording and editing this. See their 21st Century Reformation website for many helpful unitarian Christian resources. You can download the video or audio of this talk there. 👇 Go to website trinities.org kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnnRnapqnrKbe5osi=3ArU1eTf_qJ-pdEC

[@frankmckinley1254]

Was the black stone originally in Ephesus in the temple of Astarte?

[@GabrielEddy]

Meanwhile, why are there over 100,000 textual variants among the biblical manuscripts? 🤔

[@runachan2910]

What about the readings of the Q'uran? Muhammad had one tongue. Also, before you hit me with the "it's like accents!" Let that sink in: Some words are different. Which reading is the one Muhammad said? If I say: "I took the elevator" and someone said: "She said: "I took the lift" ". Isn't that a "variation"? Luckily for the bible, it's divinely inspired. As long as elevator and lift mean the same and the message is intact, it's ok. The Q'uran is divinely dictated. Which variation is etched on the tablets in heaven?

[@runachan2910]

+ Hadith about lost passages + The ones who had memorized it were dying (why it was being collected) + Arabic had about 3 more stages after being accumulated for the first time: dots, tashkeel, and (in some versions) tajweed. So, now you know. (I'm not denying the variations, before you say I'm "running away" from the question)

[@GabrielEddy]

@@runachan2910 lol I’m no Muslim

[@runachan2910]

​@@GabrielEddy Even if you aren't, this wasn't meant as an attack (sorry if I sounded rude😓) I was explaining the reasoning for both in my comment. I'm here because someone asked a question and I answered it. I have to admit, I thought you were a Muslim because that's usually who comments on these videos. Again, sorry if I sounded rude❤

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@runachan2910 .................... Who said that the Bible is inspired by God? What do you mean by "inspired"? -04-12-24

[@Soothsayer210]

I thought the Kaaba location more aligns with Dan Gibsons theory where he thinks it was in Petra. Also, if the Kaaba were in Jerusalem, why didn't they say so in the Quran because Jerusalem was a well established location back then.

[@aaronmusa234]

petra and Beersheba bone dry the holy site would have pools of water. Mecca has wells that have quenched the thirst of millions for centuries

[@ryantaylor731]

😂 you didn't see where the water comes from that goes to the zam zam well? There is only water in mecca and Saudi today! Not back in the 7th and 8th century.

[@aaronmusa234]

@@ryantaylor731 nah. son that dog won't hunt. had zam zam well been located in Jerusalem it would be called a 9th wonder of the world. a miracle quenching the thirst of millions for centuries despite being in desert with little rainfall but god put it in Mecca and disbelievers turn away as those who watched Jesus raise lazaras from the dead then turned away in disbelief

[@cavalier2097]

Syncretism: Religious syncretism, the fusion of diverse religious beliefs and practices.

[@aaronmusa234]

@@cavalier2097 English please mate

[@ftk-forthekingdomministrie7439]

So, in Josephus, are yall referring "hill", the city in Galilee?

[@khalilkhalil1000]

Let us all accept the fact that Abraham is not exclusive to any faith group. He is an important figure in the Jewish Tanakh, which Christians call the Old Testament [OT], the Christian scriptures which they call the New Testament [NT] and the Muslim scripture, which I refer to as the Holy Qur’an [HQ]. The Bible tells us in Genesis 11:28 that Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldeans in Mesopotamia. Today he would be called an Iraqi. The three faiths, widely known as the Abrahamic faiths, are very closely related. It is no surprise therefore that there are passages in the Bible itself that tell us of the connection between Abraham and Mecca where the Kaaba is. 2- We learn from Genesis 21:14-21 that "Abraham took some food and a skin of water and gave them to Hagar. He set them on her shoulders and then sent her off with the boy [Ishmael]. She [Hagar] went on her way and wandered in the desert of Beersheba. When the water in the skin was gone, she put the boy under one of the bushes. Then she went off and sat down nearby, about a bowshot away, for she thought, “I cannot watch the boy die.” And as she sat there nearby, she began to sob. God heard the boy crying, and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her, “What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid; God has heard the boy crying as he lies there. 18Lift the boy up and take him by the hand, for I will make him into a great nation.” Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well of water. So she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. God was with the boy as he grew up. He lived in the desert and became an archer. While he was living in the Desert of Paran, his mother got a wife for him from Egypt” 3- Muslims regard the Paran of Mecca to be where Hagar cried for water for her son Ishmael, and the well of zamzam in Mecca as the miraculous well that saved Ishmael's life and consider it sacred for that reason. Furthermore, Mecca is referred to by its ancient name Bacca in both the Muslim scripture (HQ 3:96) and in the Bible (Psalm 84:5-6) HQ 3:96 says, “The first house (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka; full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings.” While Psalm 84:5-6 reads, “Blessed is the man whose strength is in You, whose heart is set on pilgrimage. As they pass through the Valley of Baca, they make it a spring…” The sacred ‘spring’ of the well of Zamzam in Bacca/Mecca is well known. 4- Although the question only mentions Abraham here’s what HQ 2:127 says “And as Abraham was raising the foundations of the house, and Ishmael, [they prayed:] 'O our Sustainer! Accept Thou this from us: for, verily, Thou alone art all-hearing, all-knowing!’” So we can see that according to the HQ it wasn’t just Abraham alone who built the Kaaba as one might conclude from the question but it was Ishmael as well. The Bible verses I quoted concern the move of Ishmael from the home where he was born to a new home in the valley of Mecca. Hagar was still Abraham’s legal wife and Ishmael his firstborn. So Abraham was the head of two households, the second one of them being in Mecca. 5- The Kaaba (a cubic building and possibly the origin of the word cube) is a box of a building draped with black fabric embroidered in gold with verses from the HQ This “black box” is the symbol of oneness in the religion of the one God, and is the centre of focus for Muslims throughout the world and is what they face in all their prayers wherever in the world they are. 6- Mecca is also the birthplace of Prophet Mohammed and where he lived for about 53 years. It is here that he started preaching Islam at age 40. Pagans in control of Mecca tried everything to stop him, from offers of bribes to actual persecution, exile/open prison in the desert, torture and the murder of followers.

[@mudaaa1015]

Imagine of real archaeologist got chance to unearth mecca 😂

[@thunderous-one]

Why would they bother? What would they find other than more dirt? Sufficient is the dirt found in the Quran and Hadith.

[@arifsoetanto7533]

They did when Majidil Haram was built in 2008.

[@mysotiras21]

Muslims will never permit that.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@thunderous-one .................... Sufficient is the dirt in the food waiting for you in the Hereafter and the scalding water as your drink which will burn your belly. -04-12-24

[@thunderous-one]

@@defenderoftruth3212 really? All this is waiting for me? It’s a shame you could not challenge my comment by providing archaeological evidences of Islams veracity? Let’s have it right, what statement in the Quran with reference to history has been proven true? Let’s look at an account in chapter 18 of Quran. Dhul qurnain, who was he? Dhul qurnains giant brass covered iron wall, where is it? How did he build the wall? Why have no Muslims ever launched an expedition to find the wall? Face the facts, there’s more truth in the statement “the moon is made of cheese” than this account being true. So, I will gladly suffer with your allahs punishments if proven wrong. But we both know I will not be proven wrong though you be proven nothing more than a blind Muslim by rote

[@bloedblarre]

The black stone is the Meteorite of Anu from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Islam is the igigi slave replacement religion.

[@munteza9262]

Lol... Its just a rock😂

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@munteza9262 .................. Many scientists have conducted a study on the Black Stone and proved that it's meteorite. No rocks can be compared to it. -04-12-24

[@munteza9262]

@@defenderoftruth3212 lol...No rocks can be compared to it. Never compare a stone with bullshit... my god what a cult

[@JohnP-go6wf]

You worship a meteorite. Well done.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@munteza9262 ........................ Call it cult, or any name you want, but just prepare yourself to be thrown to the raging fire of Hell. -04-13-24

[@user-xg1rt5gg2k]

Jay ,your face is so funny, especially when you smile. You look like a 2 year old to me

[@strangerintime]

You should also discuss about St John of Damascus (676 - 749) who wrote about the black stone of kabah which was actually the head of a statue of Aphrodite.

[@bobinindiana]

Islam is not an Abrahamic religion. Hagar was an Egyptian and Ishmael married an Egyptian. Egyptians were descended from Ham. Abraham and Isaac were descended from Shem. Thus the early Christians were descended from Shem until gentiles converted.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

Rabbi Manis Friedman,suggested that the first Jew was Prophet Isaac and thats due to his mother Saria,and Abram/Abraham was not a Jew.

[@richardkerns1709]

The fact still stands that Isaac was the true inheritance of the promise and not Ishmael though Ishmael will be blessed not the true son of Abraham And Sara, Isaac was Ishmael was born of Sara's maiden servant, so they have it backwards from the get go, And Moses was raised by the Pharaoh's daughter but did not learn and follow all their false Deities and traditions of men.

[@richardkerns1709]

100 % agree on that

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

@@richardkerns1709 . I ain't in disagreement that godly line is from Prophet Isaac. Ps.off topic.A Rabbi at site called Blessed is Ha'Shem The G_d of Israel,and vid called "difference between Gypsies and Jews". That Rabbi suggested that Holy Torah actually says that Sarah was 9 and not 99 when she had the birth of Prophet Isaac.

[@richardkerns1709]

@@asifbrettishmaelmakki9P.S... I don't listen or follow any Jewish Rabbi except YESHUA

[@Mike-hr6jz]

You may want to look into the connection between the corporation of Blackrock and the Blackstone and the caliphate

[@pashamehmet]

If the theory suggesting that the Kaaba was originally located in Petra turns out to be true, it opens up the possibility for some unconventional speculation. Could the Battle of Badr, known in Arabic as 'حرب البدر', actually be referring to a battle that took place in Petra? I'm noting here the absence of the /p/ sound in Arabic, where words containing the sound /p/ are pronounced with the sound /b/, and the sound /p/ is represented using the letter 'ب'.

[@narrowistheway77]

I’m a little surprised that you didn’t bring up the Roman Cult of Cybele and how that may have influenced the black stone tradition in Islam

[@moemara9506]

Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 96: إِنَّ أَوَّلَ بَيْتٍ وُضِعَ لِلنَّاسِ لَلَّذِي بِبَكَّةَ مُبَارَكًا وَهُدًى لِّلْعَالَمِينَ Most surely the first house appointed for men is the one at Bekka, blessed and a guidance for the nations. (English - Shakir) via iQuran

[@moemara9506]

Mecca is Bekkah as mentioned in Quran as first worship place and the direction of worship also muslims prayed 17 months toward aqsa . Also mentioned in old testament as valley of bekkah .Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools. Psalm 84

[@justaminute3111]

The Bekaa Valley is in modern day Lebanon.

[@moemara9506]

​@@justaminute3111pure lie

[@moemara9506]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4O4iIVnmtKqnJYsi=KJM24CbeOK1oQDHI

[@moemara9506]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqHRqmdqhJWYe7Msi=fdx3d6-dYtJK7cIH

[@user-wc7ku7ud3e]

@@justaminute3111 They lie to you. Do you like to think? Did Moses escape from Egypt with a million without the Egyptian army knowing? Did Musa escape without the Egyptians and security knowing? Can you believe that a million people escaped without the police and army knowing and preventing them? Moses lived in Sinai for forty years. How? Did the Egyptian army die or migrate? Why did Moses, the border protector, not prevent soldiers from the fences and border points? Did you know that Egypt controlled Palestine before and after Moses? How did Moses escape from the ruler of Egypt to go to an area subject to Egyptian rule? Does your mind accept that? Why is there no trace confirming the stories of the Bible in Palestine? Why is there no archaeological evidence confirming the presence of Moses, Abraham, David, and Solomon in Israel? Canaanite inscriptions Thousands of inscriptions recorded the lives of the Canaanites and did not mention the existence of Moses, David, or Solomon. Did they disappear from history? Were they legends? Sir Israel, search teams were formed to search for any antiquities that confirm the stories of the Bible. For twenty years, they did not find anything. Dr. Herzog stated the results of the research. Did you know that in Yemen, inscriptions on stone and metal mention the stories of the Torah, the cities of the Torah, the tribes, mountains, and springs of water of the Torah, and that there are Jews and Ishmael in the Yemeni inscriptions? Did you know? Arab researchers concluded that the Torah was in Yemen and not Palestine? Migrations from Yemen to the north in Palestine occurred in the fifth century before the birth of Jesus

[@np33123]

The Talmud is written in Hebrew and Aramaic, and exists in two versions: the vastly studied Babylonian Talmud, compiled by scholars in Mesopotamia (Babylonia) around 500 CE, as well as the Jerusalem Talmud, compiled earlier, around 400 CE, but much shorter, incomplete and in consequence, for centuries studied less ... THE CORRUPTION OF THE BOOK OF THE ISRAELITES IS WHEN THE RIBBIS WROTE THE TALMUD !

[@moemara9506]

Mecca is Bekkah in Quran and old testament. Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them. Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools. Psalm 84

[@jooo7011]

Abu al-Fida Isma'il ibn Umar ibn Kathir al-Dimashqi ,al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī and Jafar al-Sadiq 34.12-13 21.78-82 flying carpet in kuran .

[@sura2proyect428]

Where in the Bible speak of doing tawf in the temple mount. ?

[@richardkerns1709]

That may be a jewish oral tradition as they are doing plainly at Mecca and also in Jerusalem as they also follow a lot of rabbinic oral traditions not found in scripture but instead are apart of the Talmud or Mishna, not in scripture thanks for pointing that out.

[@sura2proyect428]

@@richardkerns1709 Sahih Al-Bukhari 4376-4377. Say that the arabic tawaf is historically a stone worship ritual.

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@richardkerns1709 .................... Read the book THE RETURN TO MECCA by Avi Lipkin, a Jewish author. It's about how the Bible tells the story on how Moses and the rescued Jews performed Hajj at Ka'aba in Mecca. -04-12-24

[@suniljoseph5888]

Which book is not?

[@jessiejames7492]

I lived in jeddah with my husband fr 2 yrs. our house was about a half hr drive to the city and shops On the way we will pass the road leading into mecca. Its paved green. Non muslims it seems are not allowed to travel that road. This was in the 80s. I dont know if its still law. During ramadan we would see thousands of tents along the area closebto mecca. I know mecca is very modernised and improved since the catastrophic crush of people yrs ago. So i believe. That area in mecca is well known. .

[@robertgorlee2552]

Never heard about a kaaba in Jerusalem (the holy of holiest was square, but they did not circumambulated it).

[@RoninofRamen]

But we do have a sevenfold circumambulation in the Bible with the defeat of Jericho. So that rite during the Haaj is a mightly large coincidence if not lifted from some Jewish sect's traditions somewhere.

[@robertgorlee2552]

@@RoninofRamen I wondered about Jerusalem, what has Jericho to do with it?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@@RoninofRamen ................................ Coincidentally, the Jericho wall collapsed on the 7th circumambulation. Had it not collapsed on the 7th circumambulation, it could have been done up to a hundred times. -04-13-24

[@varadarajcuram2238]

He is equally fanatic.

[@BobSmith-lb9nc]

What about Makka as derived from ancient South Arabic Makorba "Temple"?

[@trevorgriffiths5611]

Macoraba isn’t depicted at the right place on the map .. It only gets one mention and after that then nothing .. Also it’s mentioned that Macoraba is next to a river ..

[@urbandsouza7279]

In that case next to makroba is a river.where is that river can u point river

[@BobSmith-lb9nc]

@@trevorgriffiths5611 Thanks, Trevor. However, I am thinking of the mukarib kings and the root mkrb "temple" as the generic origin of the name Makka, since it is considered by Muslims as their primary temple.

[@trevorgriffiths5611]

@@BobSmith-lb9nc Ok 👌 but Mecca wasn’t even mentioned until 741 CE and even then it was placed in Iraq 🇮🇶 according to the chronicles..

[@BobSmith-lb9nc]

@@trevorgriffiths5611 I'm talking etymology not chronology.

[@JohnP-go6wf]

There’s no other religion where the sight of a little girl playing with dolls leads to a marriage contract and all the adults around him say “perfectly fine”.

[@HereForAwhile]

😮 Had never heard the Jewish throwback on the circumambulation, etc. LOL 🙄

[@RJFP67]

There’s no Islam without tyranny 😢.

[@daddo52]

I thought he sent the stone to the in between masque, since Mecca wasn't built until after 714.

[@royalvalentina534]

Truth is Islams kryptonite

[@defenderoftruth3212]

@royalvalentina534 ...................... You'll feel the heat of kryptonite in the Hereafter. That is the truth of Islam. -05-03-24

[@np33123]

Why didn't Paul get along with the apostles? None of the answers thus far have it quite right, assuming that “the apostles” means the disciples (students) of Jesus, his inner circle who followed him during his lifetime. Paul was a later convert, who claimed his authority as an apostle (evangelist) based on a visionary encounter with Jesus after Jesus’ death. We know from Paul’s letters that not all of the disciples and their followers had complete faith in that claim, so there was some suspicion right off the bat. Paul also introduced a new idea to the Christian sect. He noticed something about the apocalyptic scriptures upon which the Christian Jews - because at that time Christianity was a Jewish sect - based their views of Jesus. It was written that when the Kingdom of God was established, all nations would worship the one true God. This meant that some Gentiles would have to be saved from the wrath of God at the End of Days. So he set about on a mission to convert Gentiles to Christianity - without converting them to Judaism - which he believed had to occur before Jesus would return as the Son of Man. The pillars at the mother church accepted this on the condition that Paul’s Gentile congregations contribute to their fund for the poor in Jerusalem. But James in particular never got fully on board. He insisted, for instance, that Jewish Christians not eat with Gentile Christians. For Paul, the denial of table fellowship was abhorrent, since all were equal in Christ. There is widespread confusion about this point, by the way. Many people believe that Paul thought all Christians were not bound by the law, but that is not accurate. He and the disciples agreed that Jews should keep the covenant. The disagreements were over whether or not Gentile Christians should keep the Law (i.e., convert to Judaism). Paul, for example, reported that Peter would eat with his Gentile congregations unless any of James’ followers were present, at which point he would go eat with them separately. But Paul didn’t just think that Gentile Christians shouldn’t convert to Judaism and keep the Law by keeping kosher and (for men) being circumcised. He insisted that they must not do it. Not only because of the scriptural prophecies but also because it was not the Law that offered salvation. Rather it was election by the holy spirit based on faith in Jesus’ resurrection. So for Gentiles to feel that they had to covert, well, this was a lack of faith in salvation by the blood of Christ alone, and following through with it would cost them their salvation. His battle with the James faction over that point was quite heated. So in sum, there were 3 key points of contention between Paul and at least some of the disciples: The validity of Paul’s claim regarding his encounter with Jesus and therefore his authority as an apostle; The validity of Paul’s interpretation of scripture, holding that unconverted Gentiles would be saved; The question of whether Paul’s congregations of Gentile (pagan) Christians could share table fellowship with Jewish Christians without defiling the Jews.

[@Kumarapwmss1989]

Bullshit

[@donnafraenkel7852]

The Kaaba floorplan is incorrect. The structure is based upon symbolic representation of the square, which is length, breadth and width, symbolic of the 3d world of matter. Within,is three symbolic shapes working with the spiritual number system, and divination from old times, which was initiation past the three d world and into spirit. We cannot comprehend the information until we go out of body and this temple is connection with the library of Akash record hall, of old which we can all visit when we become closer to God. The pots on the roof are Spiritual gifts which one can obtain which are helping hands very similar to the tarot cards of the hands in the clouds 😂. Blessings to all who can go beyond the nature of material understanding and understand it's higher learning which works also with communication with God and higher entities which guide us through life

[@TheLionFarm]

Give them the history! That's right

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

a perfectly preserved book, not even the works of plato socrates, aristotles are prerfectly preserved.

[@Stolas1777]

I’m pretty sure the stone Elagabalus brought to Rome wasn’t the same as st the Kaaba stone worship was common back then. They called them bayt-el (house of god). He was a high priest of a Syrian sun cult. Many cultures had bayt-el worshipping

[@st6217]

I'd like to take issue with your claim about Hebrew/early Jewish sources that refer to the Ka'aba. Firstly there is no Biblical Hebrew (or the late Mishnaic Hebrew word for cube. The modern Hebrew word is clearly borrowed from European languages. Secondly, the nearest word to it - qubbah - refers to a small room, definitely not to a square block, such as a rock. Accordingly, it could be applied to the Holy of Holies, but that was part of a much larger building, and neither was ever referred to as such. They had their own specific names. The Holy of Holies was built over a rock, which is still there today, and is referred to in Later Hebrew as the 'Stone of Foundation' (my translation, you might find something different) and it is in the centre of the Mosque on that site. I'm not sure what references in Josephus you're referring to, but (1) he is not exactly the best source for relating the Temple Service (even though he was a Kohen, he clearly never participated in the Service) and (2) we have an extremely detailed description from Classical sources. Neither the Holy of Holies, nor the larger building were ever circumambulated at any time in history for any reason. A circumambulation of the Altar was made during the festival of Tabernacles, but that is something different altogether. So, whatever the history you've uncovered about that stone's journeys, at no time was it in Jerusalem, not has it ever played a part in Jewish ritual - nor is it referenced in Jewish texts (except one 12th century reference that states that it originally had a pagan source, but that has since been abandoned and is part of (ie, a 'prop' in) monotheistic worship.