Lies of P - Bullying King of Puppets

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옹발이 ONGBAL

옹발이 ONGBAL

8 ай бұрын

NG++ Lies of P King of Puppets No Damage Boss Fight

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@SomeUnkindledAsh
@SomeUnkindledAsh 8 ай бұрын
That combo after he sets his scythe on fire in the 2nd phase legit killed me about 5000 times. I eventually just started sprinting in the other direction like i do with Waterfowl Dance.
@Gwyndolin-hk4ql
@Gwyndolin-hk4ql 8 ай бұрын
This guy is a god gamer. But for an old man like me, I really couldn't deal with it well. And this boss just gave me rage. The move is worse than waterfowl imo.🥲 Beat it eventually, but has a lot to complain. Also the fact that some attacks can knock you back even with perfect block is annoying.
@latinoviking
@latinoviking 8 ай бұрын
If you hit him with two heavies u can knock him out of it that’s what I did and he didn’t get to put the fire on his weapon
@elkmeatenjoyer3409
@elkmeatenjoyer3409 8 ай бұрын
Is there a dodge move in this game?
@paladindanse81
@paladindanse81 8 ай бұрын
If u interupt him when he is lighting the scythe on fire he lose the combo entirely. Its actually fairly easy to do and has a short learning curve.
@jakeislavic3024
@jakeislavic3024 8 ай бұрын
​@@elkmeatenjoyer3409yep
@volty883
@volty883 7 ай бұрын
Man, the balls on you to just parry the whole fire combo is wild man. Absolutely killed it
@otrousuariomas7411
@otrousuariomas7411 8 ай бұрын
Ongball gets a katana and starts beating the shit out of everything
@KoreanSpy1997
@KoreanSpy1997 8 ай бұрын
Not a Katana, Hwando. Difference between two is that Katana is from Japan when Hwando is from Korea.
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 7 ай бұрын
​@@KoreanSpy1997"🤓"
@TheRockstarRunkey
@TheRockstarRunkey 2 ай бұрын
@@KoreanSpy1997nerd alert! 🚨
@MUTANG_Official
@MUTANG_Official 8 ай бұрын
Ongbal : Look at me King of Puppets : Sure Ongbal : Look at me King of Puppets : Sure Ongbal : I AM THE KING NOW
@JF-eh6vb
@JF-eh6vb 8 ай бұрын
Ongbal: You think you’re the king IM THE KING!
@Voltackle86
@Voltackle86 8 ай бұрын
Probably the best Lies of P player so far. So much style to your gameplay, always fun to watch.
@Spades01
@Spades01 8 ай бұрын
Best souls player of all time check out his other vids
@Pisellus77
@Pisellus77 8 ай бұрын
Is not that he is the best player of lies of p, he's just a monster everyeye
@dirtydan4519
@dirtydan4519 8 ай бұрын
​@@Spades01that's not even a stretch lmao dude clapped malenia at lvl 1
@CapucineNighly
@CapucineNighly 8 ай бұрын
Looking at how other players are dying at the parry... Ya. ONGBAL makes it look like a walk in the park.
@ladistar
@ladistar 8 ай бұрын
Dude this is the legendary ONGBAL, he destroys every game he plays
@basselh2585
@basselh2585 8 ай бұрын
Dude casually parried the entire flame scythe combo…
@999solar3
@999solar3 8 ай бұрын
Crazy
@whipseryname4295
@whipseryname4295 8 ай бұрын
Wtf, I didn't know the boss puppet voice lines could become so clear
@CapucineNighly
@CapucineNighly 8 ай бұрын
This is NG+, so that means he has the decorder I think? Coz you get one later on in the game to understand what the puppets say. Interesting playing it a second round.
@S0M3GUY778
@S0M3GUY778 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad this video showcases it. I'm a huge fan of Romeo's voice here
@CapucineNighly
@CapucineNighly 7 ай бұрын
@@shadowdream1152 Nah, in the story because of the first puppet went blood craze murderer, they installed a system for all puppets to never tell a lie, always follow what humans say and never harm humans. Our MC is special because he was created to be more human, so he can, not follow other humans and harm other humans. So he gotta lie to be more human. Get? XD And as you do those side quests where you either lie or tell the truth. The lie options actually makes the human npcs feel at ease. Yanno white lies and all.
@Amocoru
@Amocoru 8 ай бұрын
This weapon is insanely fun to use. Nothing else in the game even exists to me after I got it. The first time I accidentally parried Laxasia with the charged attack I knew it was the one. 10/10
@jaguarjosh24
@jaguarjosh24 8 ай бұрын
What is it?
@kylele23
@kylele23 8 ай бұрын
@@jaguarjosh24Two Dragon sword, charged attack has a parry frame on it and the basic light attack combo has built in dodges. It also does good damage since it’s actually more weight than it looks. Pretty much does everything you could ever want
@bjornrosenzweig8535
@bjornrosenzweig8535 8 ай бұрын
Seeing ongbal use it I'm like "hell yeah I'm gonna equip this thing right now" and then 20 minutes later after getting my ass kicked I'm just going back to the trident lol
@PepePepe-ge5hk
@PepePepe-ge5hk 8 ай бұрын
This weapons IS the most Broken in the Game...
@cleightonpresutti5764
@cleightonpresutti5764 8 ай бұрын
What is it
@Benjamin-mj9pd
@Benjamin-mj9pd 8 ай бұрын
I like how Romeo, aka Candlewick, dies with more dignity here than the original story.
@FruitCapoeira
@FruitCapoeira 7 ай бұрын
2 things in this video that makes it so great: 1) Ongbal's wonderful skills 2) P looking fine as hell in that outfit
@sixft_under
@sixft_under 8 ай бұрын
As a fellow double dragon enjoyer, these videos are extremely helpful for fine tuning some of my parry timings. Takes me back to my first days playing Sekiro, thanks as always Ongbal! You da man 🤟
@infinityimpurity4032
@infinityimpurity4032 8 ай бұрын
yeah thats so true
@JuiceEternal
@JuiceEternal 8 ай бұрын
Man, as usual you slayed it. For real, you have made me a better player. Watching you play has made me strive to be better.
@beargrylls6135
@beargrylls6135 7 ай бұрын
Before watching Ongbal I was playing like I play souls games - only rolling from attacks. I was wondering why the game felt so shit to play, but after realizing how effective and fun perfect guard is, everything clicked for me. So a big thanks goes to Ongbal. Im no longer afraid of taking hits if it means I'll get better at parrying.
@Poetic_Justice92
@Poetic_Justice92 8 ай бұрын
Here's a piece of advice for those who aren't good at parrying and struggle to guard against Romeo's fire waterfowl attack. As soon as he starts the move throw a shotput at him. It'll instantly knock him out of the combo.
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 7 ай бұрын
Why not firefowl?
@clashaccount8737
@clashaccount8737 7 ай бұрын
@@TimothyGod Firehawk Dance
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 7 ай бұрын
@@clashaccount8737 also good
@quintonhoffert6526
@quintonhoffert6526 7 ай бұрын
The Aegis blocking explosion also knocks him out of it.
@karvenman
@karvenman 7 ай бұрын
I just used a spectre and the provocation wishstone
@Sir.CringeALot
@Sir.CringeALot 3 ай бұрын
Gemini: incredible! You defeated the king! Pinocchio: i have DESTROYED the king.
@ethor7676
@ethor7676 8 ай бұрын
This guy is so damn good at video games.
@apieython7853
@apieython7853 8 ай бұрын
great fight as always. would love to see you bully those elite unique enemies such as that one jester puppet at Lorenzini arcade.
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 8 ай бұрын
My God, I hated that enemy
@Mrtherapists
@Mrtherapists 8 ай бұрын
Just back up and let the corrupted enemies do the work
@randomnobody9229
@randomnobody9229 7 ай бұрын
That puppet literally take 7 parrries before his weapons break. It would not be a good video lmao
@Cleanrotknight456
@Cleanrotknight456 8 ай бұрын
With English subtitles it finalt feels like understanding what they're speaking and thinking.
@kylele23
@kylele23 8 ай бұрын
It’s a NG+ thing, you find a decoder after this fight in NG and when you rerun you’ll hear what the puppet bosses say
@TheCake1223
@TheCake1223 8 ай бұрын
Ohh
@OLDGREATONE1174
@OLDGREATONE1174 8 ай бұрын
@@kylele23Thank you!
@Yatashi_Sayo
@Yatashi_Sayo 7 ай бұрын
I felt sad after finding out that Carlo and the King of Puppets had a past together and that the King just wanted to help his friend Rest in peace king of puppets
@danielcaraballo914
@danielcaraballo914 4 ай бұрын
I’m gonna be honest, just because it looked stupid and weirdly elegant, I used the umbrella for most of my first play through. I’m now realizing it made a lot of fights much harder then they were attended to be but I still love the damn thing.
@TheMAKRS
@TheMAKRS 8 ай бұрын
사람의 실력이 아니다...매번 볼때마다 경이롭기 까지하네
@XxTAKESHI777
@XxTAKESHI777 8 ай бұрын
Brother, you are from another world, what ability you have, wow.
@demontheory
@demontheory 8 ай бұрын
Never stop uploading bro, this is so satisfying
@yadataro6546
@yadataro6546 8 ай бұрын
From now on, you're the king.
@anndre_wilson
@anndre_wilson Ай бұрын
Your ability to time the parry with that sword is undoubtedly some of the best gameplay I’ve ever witnessed in this game
@ShirasEntertainment
@ShirasEntertainment 8 ай бұрын
I crave one of your boss fights every day 🤣 pure gold 💯 let’s see you take out Simon again
@0Nome0
@0Nome0 8 ай бұрын
you are my inspiration. It's thanks to you that I finished Elden Ring on level 1 and it will be thanks to you if I try challenges on this game. you are the best!! I greet you from Italy.
@yoredrag-onight4204
@yoredrag-onight4204 8 ай бұрын
the king was up against the overlord
@crystallitex6311
@crystallitex6311 5 ай бұрын
This guy plays insanely while still maintaining cool styles and postures, holy
@koktszfung
@koktszfung 8 ай бұрын
It's the perfect game to show off your skills
@xenogaming8417
@xenogaming8417 8 ай бұрын
What a dominant performance. Your character feels smug like that overpowered anime boss character that renders any chance of the main story lines characters chance of winning to smoke & ashes. Such a OngBal classic fashion win here. Sheeez!
@derekd2863
@derekd2863 8 ай бұрын
I've heard much less forgiving parry windows in this game than in Sekiro. How do you manage to parry blows so deftly and perfectly?
@esmith2k2
@esmith2k2 8 ай бұрын
They aren't actually much (if any) worse than Sekiro. The difference is you need to hold the button to deflect. In sekiro, if you tap the deflect button you get the entire parry window every time. But if you tap the button in this game you are only getting a fraction of the window. This is why most people seem to think the parry window is less forgiving.
@rohansensei5708
@rohansensei5708 8 ай бұрын
Sekiro is his easy mode since he can parry in souls games as well. Sekiro has 13 i-frames meanwhile Souls/Elden Ring has 6 and LoP’s is 8. But what makes perfect guarding in LoP so damn hard is animations are half assed and terribly telegrahped which makes his flawless gameplay even more impressing.
@maniacalmurderer4123
@maniacalmurderer4123 8 ай бұрын
Practice
@blackhaze_gaming
@blackhaze_gaming 8 ай бұрын
​@@rohansensei5708 whats your source for the parry frames? kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4ColIqOa8iKm9E according to this you can get 14 with carian retaliation, 11 for buckler parry, the 6 you mentioned is only for medium shields or worse. ive parried malenia with a medium shield before but still had a hard time figuring out how to deflect consistently in sekiro.
@grandmacrinkle8094
@grandmacrinkle8094 8 ай бұрын
it’s ongbal, what do you expect
@MaRINoL
@MaRINoL 8 ай бұрын
I'm struggling with perfect guard timing... I'm impressed. You have serious skills.
@mritz579
@mritz579 7 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he is just holding block for most of it. There is a skill for perfect block while holding block. Makes the game a lot easier. Lol
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 7 ай бұрын
​@@mritz579no, there is no such thing. You have to time it
@mritz579
@mritz579 7 ай бұрын
@TimothyGod Phase 7 abilities - Add Legion Arm Slots 2 - Fury Attack Guard (Guard now stops Fury Attacks) - Light Weight (Weight class -1; e.g. 69% weight is now "normal" instead of "slightly heavy") - Add Amulet Slots 3
@mritz579
@mritz579 7 ай бұрын
@@TimothyGod I think you have to be on ng+3 to access phase 7 of the p organ. (Only way to get enough quartz to unlock it)
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 7 ай бұрын
@@mritz579 that doesn't mean he doesn't have to time deflects tho, just that you can block fury
@user-eq4tn5xf5i
@user-eq4tn5xf5i 3 ай бұрын
THET WAY YOU FUCKING PARRY WITH STRONG CHARGE ATTACK MAKES ME FEEL SO INFERIOR. awesome work on those enemies haha
@iamandrewyang
@iamandrewyang 8 ай бұрын
i'm starting to believe LOP was made specifically for ongbal.
@hk-47droid64
@hk-47droid64 8 ай бұрын
1:39 Man, if I were Romeo in that situation I'd just give up.
@canoodlepoodle7892
@canoodlepoodle7892 8 ай бұрын
This video made me realize you could party both of his arms for the side swipe
@raccoonofmotivation20
@raccoonofmotivation20 8 ай бұрын
Prince: im sorry carlo Ongbal: im also sorry for what I'm about to do
@raz6672
@raz6672 8 ай бұрын
Ongbal for real is the actual main boss in every game
@infinityimpurity4032
@infinityimpurity4032 8 ай бұрын
1:28 is definitely the best moment for me
@mars009
@mars009 8 күн бұрын
For a sec I thought this was sekiro ;) . Always impressed by all the ways you beat the bosses
@badro-agent808
@badro-agent808 8 ай бұрын
The absolute madlad did it again
@FCGODGAME
@FCGODGAME 8 ай бұрын
3회차라 피통이 어마어마하네. 예술이다 진짜 시몬 마누스 기대기대 옹발이 전용무기네
@test-driver
@test-driver 8 ай бұрын
와 진짜 필요할 때만 버튼 누르시네요 존멋
@allandm
@allandm 8 ай бұрын
U PARRIED THE WHOLE FREAKING FIRE COMBO? HOW?
@amiru9768
@amiru9768 6 ай бұрын
Dude he just perfect parried that flame combo 💀
@curupa66
@curupa66 8 ай бұрын
Another great video. Did you find any other technique weapons that are fun?
@tommyc2245
@tommyc2245 6 ай бұрын
I feel like nowadays, while designing all of this, the Devs had to be thinking "I can't wait to see what ONGBAL does to this Boss".... and homeboy does not disappoint.
@DownbeatNova
@DownbeatNova 5 ай бұрын
Lmao i finally deflected that stupid fire combo, it felt so relieving. Huge props ONGBAL, nothing short of impressive
@dwaynecooper5502
@dwaynecooper5502 6 ай бұрын
bro parried all the dudes fire attacks like it was the first level 1 police puppet holding the stop sign at the tutorial phase
@OwrdItzTy
@OwrdItzTy 7 ай бұрын
I died so many time to this boss it's insane! love your videos as always, what is that weapon and how did you get it??????????????
@user-zi1iu8ep6u
@user-zi1iu8ep6u 7 ай бұрын
안녕하세요 옹발님 옹발님 영상을 이전부터 재밌게 쭉 봐온 구독자 중 한명입니다. 이 댓글을 읽게 되실지는 모르겠지만 혹시나 싶은 맘에 댓글로 질문 좀 드려봅니다. 이 게임의 대다수의 보스들이 선딜이 빠른 공격 후 강공 패링으로 응수가 가능한 후속 패턴들이 꽤 많은걸로 압니다. (옹발님 영상들 보면서 많이 보고 배웠었습니다.) 근데 유독 로미오만 후속 패턴 타이밍이 굉장히 빡빡한거 같습니다. 영상 속 1:28 패턴이나, 흔히 '불새난격'이라고 부르는 화염 인챈트 후 10연타 공격 중 마지막 9타 직후 공격이 굉장히 빡빡해서 강공패링 성공율이 들쑥날쑥 하는데요 (1타 직전, 3타 직후, 9타 직후 강공패링 가능 한걸로 알고있습니다.) 이런 빡빡한 패턴에서의 강공패링 타이밍이나 팁을 알수 있을까요? 그리고 게임을 하다보면 퍼팩트 가드 직후 강공패링을 시전하다보면 가끔씩 강공차징이 되지않고 가드키를 진즉 떼었음에도 입력한 강공차징이 되지않고 가드상태를 유지하는 경우가 있는데 이런 경우는 왜 생기는지, 어떤점이 문제인지 궁금합니다.
@vinceconstantine
@vinceconstantine 8 ай бұрын
I just used this sword on this fight last night, that charge deflect/hit is soooo satisfying to use
@rnwazoro6104
@rnwazoro6104 8 ай бұрын
Where did you get a weapon?
@an_ordinary_goose
@an_ordinary_goose 8 ай бұрын
@@rnwazoro6104 This weapon is one of the boss weapons, which are traded with Boss Ergo from Alidoro
@mando5279
@mando5279 8 ай бұрын
​@@rnwazoro6104Kill the Boss in the Barren Swamp
@embersome
@embersome 8 ай бұрын
Legendary as always!
@bencoulibaly4869
@bencoulibaly4869 8 ай бұрын
C’est assez dingue quand même…. On dirait qu’on joue pas au même jeu que toi. J’ai galéré pour le mettre KO et toi comme si c’était une partie de jeu de carte.. respect mon frérot 🙌❤️
@lencarcalin8465
@lencarcalin8465 7 ай бұрын
Can you parry the leg move on this boss? The one when he stands on his hands does a breakdance spin and lands with his feet on you?
@Hoboken90
@Hoboken90 8 ай бұрын
this guy is showing the ashina way in every game. Isshin knew
@hoitem6500
@hoitem6500 7 ай бұрын
1:41 tryna learn the timing so I'm replaying this
@Siilas29
@Siilas29 8 ай бұрын
Thank u ongbal, why don't you do some livestreams playing?
@vaapad3092
@vaapad3092 7 ай бұрын
How long did it take you to practice to bully him like this? It took me 8 hours to beat him solo (with the holy sword and no consumables for perspective) so this is godlike to watch
@kevingonzalez9592
@kevingonzalez9592 8 ай бұрын
A still there's people saying that this game is unfair....literally you bullied the hell out of him...this is a great game
@TimothyGod
@TimothyGod 7 ай бұрын
This is ongbal tho, he's built different
@Yixuidhalbh
@Yixuidhalbh 2 ай бұрын
This dude is insane. I’m getting fucking annihilated against Romeo right now, dudes Cooked me at least 40 times already
@ze_glitchy_gamer7629
@ze_glitchy_gamer7629 8 ай бұрын
I cant WAIT for the npc fights!!!
@shadilamesbutr8239
@shadilamesbutr8239 8 ай бұрын
King of puppets vs The Final Boss
@ArturDZGN
@ArturDZGN 8 ай бұрын
Sweet baby Jesus... Best Puppet King cheese I've seen!
@cpt.aimassist1480
@cpt.aimassist1480 8 ай бұрын
Cheese? Are you stupid?
@FAHOOD-we6hk
@FAHOOD-we6hk 7 ай бұрын
Romeo is a very fun boss to perfect parry against.
@soulrecalibration
@soulrecalibration 8 ай бұрын
i can't believe what I just witnessed.
@respawn3598
@respawn3598 8 ай бұрын
That was INSANE 😮 awesome.
@Kaleb._
@Kaleb._ 8 ай бұрын
nice pfp!
@dtmyco1044
@dtmyco1044 7 ай бұрын
Archbishop gave me a way harder time. This game grows you!
@bloodywall81
@bloodywall81 8 ай бұрын
nice gameplay bro !
@Totonatiq
@Totonatiq 6 ай бұрын
I gotta tip my hat to you mate ;) I had to swallow my pride with all my 3 playthroughs & use a fucking SPECTRE in this fight, because that 10hit flame scythe combo killed me every single fucking time and there you just perfect parry fucking everything like a beast :D :P
@MarvinM-hh4ip
@MarvinM-hh4ip 8 ай бұрын
Bullying him and humiliating us kkkkkkk you're realy good man
@SenUchitana
@SenUchitana 8 ай бұрын
he really likes the katana I can tell lol 🤘
@imalexboyssss
@imalexboyssss 7 ай бұрын
What sword do you have? Also nice video.
@DemMedHornene
@DemMedHornene 8 ай бұрын
Meanie Ongbal out here bullying all the bosses
@state_of_games
@state_of_games 8 ай бұрын
Full fight control, great)
@sktZyx
@sktZyx 8 ай бұрын
The RT parry was insane.
@klausklaus6080
@klausklaus6080 8 ай бұрын
Dude i truly love your shit...you're beeing a shinobi where ever the fuck you want!
@ZebsWorld
@ZebsWorld 8 ай бұрын
Are u going to play spider man with the new parry mechanic
@supremespanker
@supremespanker 5 ай бұрын
You should use the etiquette, twin swords combo. Together they have the highest damage potential. Swap to etiquette when full fable.
@HonePlay23
@HonePlay23 8 ай бұрын
Wow!! Nice brutallity 😭😭
@jacktheripper3581
@jacktheripper3581 8 ай бұрын
King of Puppet VS King of Soul-Like
@Doodoocaca16
@Doodoocaca16 8 ай бұрын
@Ongbal What is your build on this character?
@djovani98
@djovani98 8 ай бұрын
Most of us getting bullied and my bro here is actually chilling...
@Planterobeets
@Planterobeets 8 ай бұрын
Stamina regen,Weight capacity and Extreme modification amulet but which one is the third? Also see the perfect guard amulet activating, is there a 5th amulet slot?
@YannMetalhead
@YannMetalhead 2 ай бұрын
Good video!
@Baishe_
@Baishe_ 8 ай бұрын
Here’s a tip for anyone struggling on first phase immediately corner him on the entrance pop an electric blitz with the specter and just spam the heck out of him when second phase begans throw everything at Romeo while the specter attacks and he’ll be dead In no time Thermites Throwing Electric Cells whatever you have will do the trick!
@2easy4doomsday
@2easy4doomsday 8 ай бұрын
and 0 gaming skills
@pvsweetypie
@pvsweetypie 8 ай бұрын
​@@2easy4doomsdayCheer up lil boi I'm gonna tell your mom to heat you up some hot pockets
@john.barrameda323
@john.barrameda323 8 ай бұрын
​@@2easy4doomsdayits called beating the game in my own game 💪
@2easy4doomsday
@2easy4doomsday 8 ай бұрын
​@@pvsweetypie people using summons and throwables to defeat a boss : 🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈🏳‍🌈💅💅💅💅
@Absorbant
@Absorbant 7 ай бұрын
Cheesing takes all the fun out of the game. Git gud or go home
@Kaleb._
@Kaleb._ 8 ай бұрын
How are you perfect parrying with just holding block?
@loumatic9183
@loumatic9183 8 ай бұрын
Whaaat, I didn’t even know you swap out arms mid fight lol
@ItsYourXLNC
@ItsYourXLNC 8 ай бұрын
Do you happen to know what button it is to change between legion arms on keyboard?
@Seiren5454
@Seiren5454 8 ай бұрын
So clean and cool.
@_chrome_hearts_
@_chrome_hearts_ 6 ай бұрын
God that was beautiful
@giovanni9420
@giovanni9420 3 ай бұрын
Two Shigaraki tomura with sword in the same fight
@TheCDCDCDCDCD5
@TheCDCDCDCDCD5 8 ай бұрын
Como le hace para que no le hagan daño los golpes cubriéndose? A mi me hacen daño aunque me cubra si no me cubro en el momento exacto
@rudyh3546
@rudyh3546 8 ай бұрын
I was hoping to see something that would help me since im stuck here but all i got was "just be way better"
@giacomoguarnieri2461
@giacomoguarnieri2461 8 ай бұрын
Are you going to play that mod that turns Malenia into a Sekiro boss?
@killval849
@killval849 8 ай бұрын
dude, how do you do it, you're like a machine.
@ohkennny6289
@ohkennny6289 8 ай бұрын
can you show us what your build is like you weight motivity and stuff
@pika4739
@pika4739 5 ай бұрын
made me happy made me smile
@kalimovx
@kalimovx 7 ай бұрын
CLEAN
@ovidijuspocius6336
@ovidijuspocius6336 7 ай бұрын
But how do you perfectly bloking by holding only block. I mean is there way to hold block and click to perfectly block or im mising something
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