LIFE CHANGING: Financial Freedom in an Off Grid Outhouse

This one part of our off-grid homestead has been LIFE CHANGING - how we found financial freedom in an off grid outhouse. It's been operating full time for 6 years and still going strong. We'll show you how it has saved us $250K!
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[@kevchard5214]

Jeff I made this exact argument for years but most people have the delusion that you must have a septic system and city water to be civilized. I am starting in a few months my 100% off grid tiny retirement home in the Arkansas Ozark's with the same goal as you guys. 0 debt. I have learned sheep will follow in all aspects of life but thinking and doing outside the corporate norm will always produce a better life.

[@mafp22w]

It is criminal that, really, it is government that makes people homeless. They won’t allow people to live within their means.

[@knotengajin7359]

Stock up on Off and Hotshot and Raid!

[@kevchard5214]

Already done. I have cases of all the above LOL@@knotengajin7359

[@pedroserranoserrano7062]

Saludos a todos esperó que se encuentren bien bendiciones los aprecio mucho ❤

[@lesthompson5907]

@@pedroserranoserrano7062 I'm of the opinion that such a toilet needs a bit of love & care , by that i mean a little more effort invested in it fitting out & given they live in winter At zero degrees. to reach the toilet at night in the dark So a access considering the Quality the view to the toilet at night free of predicters Or falling in the snow Yes a quality do over is one of them must have convenience , as we get older in to our dotage for example a well built out house stench pipe to allow smells to go to air out side is also one of the improvements he can make. given ladies are present . some nice panelling panted or vanish for example would in prove the facilities given the drop lenth, available in the siystom. we had one seller at home. but it was nicely fitted out with oak panelling. that wuld grace any house no stench as it was vented to the out side at a Hight to be taken on the wind.

[@tommcstacker4216]

I love that caution sign!

[@andrewbrown6279]

That sign gave me a good laugh

[@philip1091]

We used an outside composting toilet for years. As we got older, I decided to put in a septic system. I rented an excavator over labor day weekend and trenched the line, dug the hole , set tank, installed leach field, backfilled everything and seeded. I still had time left on the machine so I dug a root cellar. Total cost $3500.00 US. You don't need all the pump nonsense if you site your house properly to let gravity do the work!

[@Gridlessness]

I know, it shouldn’t be difficult. Unfortunately around here the rules don’t allow for common sense…..

[@knotengajin7359]

@@GridlessnessWell, you are in Canada which has some governmental problems. On the plus side, if you get too bummed out the governor will take you out for a reduced rate!

[@LupusMechanicus]

Yep this video is pointless. DIY everything if you want to not get robbed by boomers and genx leaches.

[@jenesisjones6706]

@@LupusMechanicus Who peed in YOUR Weeties? 🤣

[@blackberrythorns]

@@knotengajin7359 the entire western world has governmental problems as the elites have lost their minds and the empire is collapsing.

[@michaelkeyes1050]

Hey guys, I like how your daughters have grown up you’ve done the right thing live off the grid

[@selador11]

Cut an extra seat for that out of blue or pink foam insulation. In the winter, it's like magic. As soon as bare skin sits on that seat, it is magically warm!!!

[@bigboresledder]

No payments is a beautiful thing. Thanks

[@russellwatters5891]

Makes total sense to those of us that have some. I grew up with one, a hole in the ground, but none the less. Your system would be alot better for sure, especially with a resting period. Imma try that, at my next cabin. Thanks so much! Love ya'll ❤

[@WingItWithEthan]

You have an awesome family! You’re raising your girls the right way!

[@earlshaner4441]

Good morning from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your adventures in life

[@terriwhite6273]

We have a composting toilet in our office grid home. I love it.

[@NarnianRailway]

awesome intro for an outhouse update video. when I lived in Alaska for many years hauled my water and had a basic outhouse. Foam seat not too bad at -10. Much respect for your creative solution to a necessity.

[@CatCrazyFamily]

What an amazing analogy on taking a dump lol! That was EPIC!! Thanks for sharing.. now I know why I’m poor! All for taking a dump.

[@mark_30_60]

Nice vid! Also, with interior plumbing, you’ve got to have a consistent heat source - either a furnace or someone has to stay at home to keep a fireplace going

[@mark_30_60]

At least for those of us who live where it gets cold…

[@MMOverlandAdventures]

15k for our well, 5k for the solar pump install. $500 for solar panels installed on 3k shed, 5k for septic tank installed. Under 30k in 2018. 70k for the land. 70k for shop, leanto solar etc. 45k for a plumbed foundation. no house yet. But I am broke now, so buy my ATW so I can buil my house. Thank you!

[@ernestospadolesto8126]

I wouldn't have thought that a video about a shit house could be so interesting and informative. That's a good idea with the two-chamber system. The pretty girls have grown and I realize that I've been watching your KZbin for quite a long time.

[@BernieWiebe-vg3dm]

Man that reminds me of when I lived at home in my early teens digging the outhouse hole was always my job

[@timtv2826]

I used the outhouse everyday until I was around 18 years old. It could get very cold in the winter and you sometimes get a frosty seat. Best solution for that is to let someone else go first and warm the seat, Lol. Thanks for another educational video, Abby made me smile!!

[@sandyc6569]

😊👍

[@mywildholm]

This is cool!! Way to go guys! We really need to talk to you guys about your process. We got an incinerator toilet so we didn't have to deal with any of it but what you guys are doing is great ❤️

[@ЮрийКотеланов-и5и]

Уважение Вашей семье и привет из Сибири Россия ! 👋

[@donniev8181]

Hello from Ohio US!

[@SilentHillhomestead]

Everyone we knew thought we were crazy until we showed the numbers of our cost and the see the freedom of no bills .

[@offgridinthepacificnorthwe3210]

Greetings, my well is 300' and cost $10k. I installed my own septic system for $7k. I have a 5000 watt solar system with 8000 watts of inverter. My well runs fine. We are totally off grid with no power on the area. Our township does not allow a outhouse as a primary waist system. We built our first 1500 square foot house for $5,000 40 acres of sizable reprod and a LT40HD woodmizer is what worked for us. That was 30 years ago. You have raised wonderful daughters in the woods of freedom and my wife and I raised 6 sons the same way. God bless you and your family in Jesus name.

[@JamesSmith-pc6bh]

I've used an outhouse when I was very young and I absolutely hated it. In the winter it was cold and at night it really sucked. No way I would ever have an outhouse again.

[@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123]

“Please don’t put that in the video, please don’t”……… highlight of video ❤ I don’t have an outhouse but I am debt free, have a well and septic but I do have a compost setup I can use in the house if needed. I live in northern Minnesota and don’t tolerate the cold very well but I love your set up ! All I would add is some slip on toilet seat covers that can be removed to wash but keep your bare butt off that frozen seat …..old thick wool socks work well :) Slip on if you have an open front seat or you’ll have to sew one with elastic or draw string !!! Blessings

[@Jakwisp1]

"old video where we made this" oof that one hurt since I remember seeing it come out. Pepperidge farms remembers.

[@gordonauld5945]

I've been stung there just sitting on my bed.

[@MichelleTech]

This definitely puts it into perspective! I'm wondering what kinds of permits one needs here in my county to have an outhouse. I'm sure there's something! Seems like an acquaintance that built offgrid here said they don't want you to have a residence without a well or being hooked up to the power grid (and septic). Defeats the purpose, which is what govt wants!

[@Ggorazzi]

I grew up in a country with disgusting outhouses. They use to have trucks pump up the waste when it gets full.. it really stunk and i use to dread having to take a dump because the smell would be so bad.. wood chips would have been a huge help and the compost could rejuvenate a dessert..

[@DanielAubel]

Its so true - the sad thing is that we are required to have a septic tank where I live in Arizona, but I can do the cheapest method possible and install a tiny one for 6k so thats what we will do, and just never ever use it because we want to conserve water.. lol in a desert where water is scarce, everyone must waste massive amounts of water becasue its smart...

[@ibislife]

I'm too old for that! 🤣 I live in the woods too, and no public water or sewage line. I have installed a drilled well, and an eco friendly sewage plant, which means I have an inside flushing toilet! ☺ Worth every penny!

[@CplSkiUSMC]

9:30 You just got to thinking about something... Well, you were in the right place for it. I'd be thinking about a heated "office" to do my thinking in. I'd also be thinking about screens for mosquito season because there are certain parts of the human anatomy that you really don't want bitten.

[@dixiewishbone5582]

Could you share how your shower/bath process works?? How does your privacy or when-in-use / occupied policy work for the Johnny? Great practical no-nonsense video, thanks for sharing!

[@jonesbretth]

I've done a lot of projects in recent years in Maine that have included wells and septic systems. Prices in the last 2-3 years have surely gone way up, but I'm _shocked_ when I hear the price differences between the west and the east (in the US). I have family in Washington state and septic & well prices are bonkers out there compared to where I live. My current project included 2 drilled wells and a septic leach field for 3 1 bedroom cabins and a barn with 3 employees (the site is a flower farm with vacation rental cabins). The leach field was more/less $30k, and there are 2 septic tanks the buildings drain into that were $8k each. I drilled two wells, one to 420' one to 270'. The 420' well was abnormally deep, 270' is more typical. The cost of wells have gone up considerably with these being a bit under $30k (the bulk of that being the 420' well that also needed to be fractured to flow more water). Three years ago I did a well for $7k.

[@user-sk3pi1me2f]

You're absolutely right about things costing ridiculous amounts and avoiding debt. HOWEVER, it doesn't HAVE to cost that much. I just had a 1,500 gallon septic system installed for $5,500. I'm having my cabin and workshop wired for approx. $5k (over 3,000 sq ft). I got bids for over $15k on the septic and I'm sure someone would have been glad to rip me off on the electric too but I met good people and I do any of the labor they'll let me. So, the cost of things are crazy but a lot of it is greed and some of it is ridiculous government regulations (we don't have much of that in Kentucky). I bought 20 acres on a river and am building a cabin, separate workshop and barn and expect to come in at less than $250k (debt free). That's not bad in a world where people pay $400k for a 2-3 bedroom in a subdivision so it's still possible to have nice things. I think you're right about debt though, it is to be avoided like the plague and IMHO we're about to see a lot of people suffer because of it.

[@billybob-v1i]

That's a very rustic style outhouse for the savings. I certainly would want something a bit more insulated for the winter, and well vented in the summer. Many designs can be made with cheap materials that would leave you less "exposed" hahaha.

[@glennwilck5459]

A screen door is all you need to keep the mosquitos away..you don't sit in there too long in the winter lol

[@mattg6472]

Your best video. This information youve shared is true

[@clivecook7193]

Brilliant that a load off my mind!!!!!😢😢😢😢

[@user-McGiver]

I get it!... crunching numbers was your superpower on your previous life and you're using this... but since you're building future now you have to do more... find a stream that you can use, or find the right spot to make a well... you can't depend only on rainwater... a spring would be the best, because it can provide with energy AND water... you can learn how to do stuff, you already know that!... and soon you're goin to need all that and more.... you're about to become a tribe leader pretty soon... so build for the future tribe!

[@lesthompson5907]

with ram pumps to day we do not need expensive wells dad sunk is well & Lind it with bricks he was a miner after all . black powder was used sink the well do not for get your ribbon in the Centre LOL .

[@69anatole69]

PRO TRICK: Keep your toilet seat indoor in the winter, so its nice and warm when you gotta go!

[@sjk7995]

Excellent breakdown. No brainer! TY!

[@WifetoJohn]

We had to have our septic replaced a few years ago, to hire someone, and it is to code we paid a little over 7K.

[@ashmagardener]

I love it, but I would have to have it screened for sure, haha.

[@barnyardbrio7597]

love this channel

[@anthonyweigand6377]

I love the way you look out for money. American or Canadian. It's a lot cheaper to take a dump with a view than pay the Government.

[@rookm13]

I went throught this a while back design in my area was literally a sketch drawn plan on a piece of paper where the items were going. excavation wasnt that deep and we could have dug it up using shovels in about a month or two but luckily a friend lent us an excavator for a day. tanks, plastic(concrete are being phased out) in my area and only needed one pipe?(i guess plumbing?) sand/gravel this is what you need to draw into the plan as well, they tell you how much you need dont know anything about lift pumps, we have to call to get it pumped if needed this to me seems like the price of offloading the work. Too nuts but my experience is WA state codes and prices total was around $12k freedom units funny memory this triggered, there was another friend(lower elevation) that spent about a year digging a well with a shovel. Every day after work he spent 3 hours just digging, crazy...

[@joanneganon7157]

Wow😳. A pedestal and some sawdust ✔️. JO JO IN VT 💞🇺🇲

[@mrsquidmanmike]

Well prices are high in the states as well. I am surprised about the cost of a septic system. I would think the big cost for you would be the delivery of the tanks, distribution box, leech field piping and gravel. I had to have my tank replaced about 7 years ago and it cost me around $2500. The prior tank (installed by the original owners) was metal and completely rotted away, plus there was no leech field (only a pipe going to the back of the property), so the contractor dug a trench and a hole and filled the hole with gravel and made me a dry well. I will need to have a leech field installed in the near future. All I need to do is have a perc test done, which I can do myself and then an engineering drawing of the field for the appropriate amount of footage of the leech field. Those close to bodies of water, rivers and streams or other houses will have to have a more sophisticated septic system installed that would cost much more.

[@JoseRamos-su3ep]

Mixing urine and feces can be more hazardous than keeping them separated. The combined waste can create an environment conducive to the growth of harmful pathogens and the production of toxic gases, such as ammonia and hydrogen sulfide, which can be dangerous in high concentrations. Separating urine and feces can help in waste management and sanitation practices by reducing the potential for contamination and making it easier to process each waste stream. For example, urine is often sterile and rich in nutrients like nitrogen, which can be used as fertilizer after proper treatment. Feces, on the other hand, contain organic matter and pathogens that require different handling to safely decompose or be treated. In systems where waste is mixed, such as in traditional toilets, proper sanitation and treatment are crucial to prevent health hazards.

[@jckelsey]

I really like the set up . Great video. Thank goodness I only had to have a simple septic system in 2000. It was only 800 dollars then. Thank God for sandy soil😁

[@lesthompson5907]

i would love to see abbey & rose get a rely nice . off grid toilet re' designed. to make access from the house in winter with out having to risk the elements in the dark & cold by giving her a corridor to the toilet. & a panted & up graded. the co, pasty in the loo That speaks comfort . & putting the dry toilet to good ues . . as a fertilizer for croups like hay.

[@michaelmount76]

Thanks for another great video

[@HonestOne]

I think they could make an enclosed path towards it and add a heating system.

[@EvoS76]

😂 I love that thumbnail. My wife gives me that look too often.

[@Ian-Bell]

Have you thought about a homebiogas digester? Really cheap, and gives you endless gas for cooking etc.

[@CanadianDreamer]

Why does no one ever build a hallway to the outhouse? Door on either end. It's my dream lol

[@WhatDadIsUpTo]

I use a composting toilet, but mine is INSIDE. NO smells or insects ever. How? I use a plastic 5-gallon bucket with an $8 snap-on toilet seat & lid, but (and this is KEY) I don't do my business in the bucket! I do my business in a tall plastic kitchen trash bag with draw strings that I place INSIDE the bucket. My bucket stays clean and dry. Everything else is the same. I use it and change out the bags weekly. They go into a dedicated compost bin or sometimes into any convenient waste can - like the one provided at my gas station. I buy some gas and leave a little sealed-up bag in the trash can next to the gas pump. I've done this for years. I let the "humanure" compost 2 years before spreading it on pasture. I raise cattle. Edit: I don't compost the plastic bags. I slice the bottom, dump the contents and pyrolise the plastic in a solar-powered retort, which turns plastic into fuel.

[@blackberrythorns]

the writer paul kingsnorth does something similar in western ireland.

[@toko7746]

Me eating rye cereal while watching this was definitely a mistake 😨😂

[@MrFakit]

My neighbour drilled 3 times and never got water, refused to pay, then moved lol

[@justinobyrne4143]

should have bought property with a stream on it. Love what you do otherwise reminds me of my brother

[@rajeshnvijo-dj7dk]

Utube high days are over buddy..... Not happening anymore.... 2012 it had the world in its grip 😊😊😊 some people are still pushing their luck 😊 too much to watch 😊 don't know what to watch 😊 many channels disappeared 😊 but nice to see people living their dream

[@al_p]

I'm all for this approach and totally agree with the sentiment, but being here in rural New Brunswick trying to do this right now; If you want to build, even a small camp (not even to national building codes), you need a development permit. To get a development permit, well... you need an "on-site sewage disposal system permit", that's a septic system to you and me. What if you decide to stick it to them and just do it anyway?.. Potential forced demolition of your new home. If folks have solutions to this in Canada that doesn't risk your family becoming suddenly homeless, please share!

[@danieldeanmasterfinisher4715]

Contemplation vs constipation = liberation lol😂😂😂

[@markmoritz8102]

First I just love you guys really do. What a team! I too live in Can. OK sit down this will hurt some maybe. I installed my septic for 3k but I had a backhoe. tank was $1300. PVC and sand fitting etc. $1700. You can put in a dug well basically surface water well, as only use it for flushing the toilet. Use concrete well liners. Puhase a couple for $400- $600 depending on depth. 12 volt transfer pump $50. The toilet would be gravity-fed as it is higher than the tank. You may be convincing yourself of this and don't mind roughing it. But I'm sure that ur wife and daughters feel much differently. Wait until you get older... ur still a buck. When ur bones start aching no one likes cutting logs in the freezing cold. The women in ur life deserve this. Thats under 4K Wouldn't that be the best anniversary gift ever... rofl 🤔😂

[@veetoacuna4863]

Abby at the. Lol glad to didn't edit that out😂

[@HelleAquila]

it is so cool :-) What about smell issues? Is it bad when you sit there and how far away can you smell it?

[@GeFerr]

Another great video about common sense! How's Sarah? Are you grandparents now? When will she be in one of your videos?

[@kaye9657]

Could you put a heat lamp in the out house to turn on while you are in there so it's a little warmer.. just wondering kaye

[@calholli]

The Well I can understand... but if you just watch a few youtube videos, you can set your own septic tank pretty easily. The hardest part would be all the digging. If you had your own little excavator, then you would have it beat-- all it takes is time. If you could borrow a friends excavator or back hoe, etc.. Or you could RENT one.. You could plan it out and with non-stop digging.. You could probably get the tanks set and dig all the leaching lines out in maybe 2 weeks.. it's really not that hard. You don't have to use concrete tanks.. They sell big plastic septic tanks for around a thousand each.. Plus you have that hill where you could direct some runoff if needed.. and minimize the amount of lateral lines needed for the leech field.. You could definitely do it yourself-- if you just had easy access to water.

[@alvindueck2104]

Hey, do you ever get any ideas from Boss Of The Swamp?

[@joshuakeegwell2896]

We alteady paid for the sh#t once. Might as well save money with an outhouse, and not have to pay for the sh#t twice. I was raised as a young child on 50 acres, no hydro, no plumbing, no problems.

[@PilgrimStanding]

Is it possible to insulate an outhouse like this without creating a toxic gas issue? Also how far do you think it would need to be from the house (For smell and such)?

[@onewhitestone]

one question, how long have you lived where you are? How much would it have cost you when you first moved there? I think it would have been much cheaper back then.

[@kurdtpage]

Do solids and liquids go in the same place? I've seen some where you have to separate your No1 and No2

[@erinconnolly1809]

Is there any state in the US that would allow this?? I live on the west coast and every state requires a septic which is so ridiculous!! I am too old to just do it and worry about the government kicking me off my land for not following "the rules." Please let me know where it is allowed - Thanks

[@johnkreider3860]

I saw yellow snow. Wander who did that ? 😅

[@scotpleski5534]

"... there ... " 😆😅🤣

[@MosesTheDrake]

Bro, this is government contraband. 😂😂🙌

[@kattmcnutt]

i started watching your videos a few months back. i also watch another youtuber who makes animated content. honestly its weird how similar you tow look and how similar you to act and get excited about things in a similar way. his name and channel are Olan Rogers. if any one else thinks the same like this comment because i wanna see these two men meet in person. two totally different lives yet very similar lookin men.

[@zundappwatercooler]

How is it going with the woodgas generator

[@stevenwintersnight1036]

Der Shtinkhausen!

[@korridor7]

You should make this nicer for the girls. At least screen it in to keep out mosquitoes. Maybe add a solar, motion sensor light?

[@LitoGeorge]

why for the girls? Do you think they will expire or something? What about your great great grandmother - do you think she was some weakling? Of course not.

[@Gainn]

What's it like when the mosquitos are hungry?

[@TheKlink]

why not put it in your biodigester? also, are you allowed reedbed systems over there?

[@jasonschannel9017]

60 grand for a septic system? How? I could build one for about 5 grand. That's doing the work myself, but still. Do you have insane regulations? Requirements that someone install it for you?

[@kitsurubami]

wasn't there some health reason for not letting your waste just sit there near you? Like airborne disease?

[@hassenfepher]

wow so... i live in the sub tropics my toilet has a heated seat. it washes my but hole after i poo, and theres an exhaust vent built in that evacuates the poo gas as i sit there. when i get up, it rinses itself off and turns on a UV light to kill germs. i do pay almost 1200 a month US for the mortgage of this house though, and 37$ a month for Water and waste collection. so theres some juxtaposition for you.

[@waddeym]

To each his own but I would at least put a composting toilet in the house. I don't like freezing my bum off.

[@wantoismun7123]

Bapak Jeff ibuk ross.kok jarang live di youtup .kenapa,,aku rinduuu banget kluarga bapak.kangen semua.terutama.A.K.J.K.

[@lesthompson5907]

just watching your film on the out, house & i must say that your effort into making the out house a pleasanter places to send some time. given the view's. is a bit disappointing we had a siystom much the sane as the one you have but we had buckets that fitted under a a noisily designs & posh two bucket toilet that was shut Down wen full by sliding a damper to shut. of smells. while it composted . in reality it was a pleaser to site on a well crafted seat that was vanish with out splitter's. & boxed-in in a calcic old English way . I'm surprise you haven't a bit of nice panelling , ? you do not need a mortgage to up grad the Compacting toilet son. just the will to get it done. Happy wife & family Priceless we had a brick out house with tilde floors. so i get it i found wood ask killed the smells a lot so mix wood ash in to your sawdust . it helps the composting too.

[@lesthompson5907]

check out English wood panelling in the WC, On KZbin

[@HamidA-to8vy]

Forget about 100 grand, I am sure you can figure out something by yourself. Watching it on KZbin looks nice, like a trip or vacation. However, living like that all year around is very difficult

[@glennwilck5459]

Not really you get used to it

[@DumpsterElite]

But....but ..what will the neighbors say??? 😮

[@arnoldreiter435]

well i guess you really can put a price on a good time.........

[@lesthompson5907]

I think Rose should get a beter of grid toilet . No i do not agree that it should be a water closet far from it . using wood ash & stardust as a notarizing affect on a composting toilet butt there a limit to the suffering one can expects one wife to be subjected to, in the littlest room on the property, & for the winter & the mosquito time . exposer to them craters is not '"exsepterbal The basic idea is good But i think she disserves A lot better & comfy toilet I get it But given the number & the savings there rely no ensues not to indulge. on to build in elements of comfort in to it construction of the build . I believe she deserves better .they all do That my opinion. i get it at the time it was the cheapest option. I get it But Now 8 years on , now it needs a UP Grab Not changing from a composting idea I'm all for that but But a new rebuild with a properly jointed timber. frame building . Rose deserves the improvement. you don't need a mortgage to improve the out house son. you just need the will. Yes what would i do well id move the sower out side &. think about a scorner & shower Combined in one building with the out hose as it's bases of construction that can be heated in winter . sufficiently of a size to allow cover access from the house . it a big job but some one need to do it LOL

[@douglasw804]

It doesn't cost that much. I put in a septic for 4000. And had it done. No they don't need pumps. Most are gravity.

[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

Yellow Snow 🤣

[@RippingLips23]

U saw that aswell 😂

[@waynekerrgoodstyle]

@@RippingLips23Couldn't help but notice 🤣

[@debsalady2]

Lagoon! 😂

[@LupusMechanicus]

Why not both? Love crappin in the outhouse with the door open, also like peeing in the toilet when there's 3 feet of snow on the ground.

[@russwise1]

😎👍👍

[@SingleDadHomesteading]

People just do t understand

[@diliprautela6591]

how many kids do you have.

[@gridfreedomquest8613]

i crunched the numbers and living with an outhouse will cost me 5 times more than putting in a well and septic system. the divorce is more expensive lol. kidding