I NEVER Should’ve Bought This Honda Navi

I bought another Honda Navi for UNDER MSRP!! But it's not as exciting as I had hoped it would be...because I didn't do my due diligence and kiiinda got ripped off. Hopefully you all can learn from my mistakes! Now...what should we do with the new (used) Honda Navi? Destroy it, sell it, or fix it?...
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[@QuasiMotard]

That's almost certainly a CVT issue. The belt is shuddering as the clutch engages and that causes the bike to shake. The centrifugal clutch might have a broken spring or the clutch shoes might be glazed. If the bike is under 12 months old, then the Honda warranty is still in effect, so I'd go that route first. If the warranty is expired, then a new performance variator, rear drive assembly (pulley, springs, and centrifugal clutch), and belt will set you back around $200-250. Good luck with the diagnosis, and let me know if you need any help... I've been down that road many, many times! 😉👍 --QM

[@LifeOfBurch]

The Minimoto God himself has spoken! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 I’m happy to know my diagnosis seems to be pointing in the right direction, and even happier to know that all those parts can be had for so cheap! 😂 I’ll keep you in the loop if I run into anything crazy! 👌🏻

[@SvanbergSimon]

Had a similar issue on a scooter years back and disassembled the variator/CVT transmission for troubleshooting. Found the issue right alway and it was the weights in the variator that had desintegrated partly. I think you need to remove the cover of the final drive and you will probably see right away what the issue is. Quasimotard has extensive knowledge in cvt transmissions and you already know him.

[@brandoom9122]

My money is on stripped splines or threads either variator or clutch side. Easy to mess up with an impact wrench. But a big enough mistake to warrant just selling it at MSRP.

[@z9brigade]

@@LifeOfBurch is it still under warranty? I'm really invested in this story now lol

[@packgrog]

Damn you both! You're making me want a busted Navi to fix up! :P

[@serious_in_seattle6917]

You’re making a simple thing unnecessarily complicated. Just get it fixed under warranty. It has only 800 miles, right?

[@blainepittman1354]

I’d definitely take advantage of that warranty, best case scenario you fix it for basically free, worst case scenario you’re in the same spot you’re in now, nothing to lose by just letting them look at it

[@LifeOfBurch]

True that! I like that line of thinking 🤘🏻

[@Tyler-si2rj]

i was going to say this exact thing, if he had to pay anything itd just be a couple hundred for diagnostic but at least he would have the knowledge, and if its under warranty itll all be free

[@andydarling8951]

Right exactly. Even if it’s not covered under warranty and you end up paying for the diagnostic, the mechanic will at least be able to tell you what’s wrong with it and you can determine if: a) you can fix it yourself; or b) the price for them to fix it is worth it to you to let them do it. Good luck man I know this is stressful

[@Seawhaleorgonite]

Clutch studder my beo, 181 cc does that as standard operating for that model. Sort of trashy. 😁

[@techontesla5284]

I was thinking the same thing There has to be a warranty.

[@ShaneSharpVlogs]

I had a 2017 Honda Ruckus which had a similar issue around 1200 miles. Turned out it was the variator weights. Easy repair and cheap. Keep us posted when you find out . I suggest not destroying the Navi but make it a learning experience for all of us. Keep up the great work!

[@craigklein5563]

The variator weights will make the rattling sound but they're not going to shake the bike like that.

[@asandrewsilvaw]

I have this exact same issue on mine. It ended up being the CVT spring, was snapped at the end. Honda covered it under warranty. Otherwise you can buy them pretty cheap and you can actually get them upgraded along with lighter weights for quicker acceleration.

[@jeffholmes9483]

Definitely sounds like the clutch and would also explain why it is worse once the bike warms up. Since you mentioned that it feels faster than your stock Navi it almost makes me think some has played with the CVT. I personaly would take it apart and try to fix it. The parts are cheap and there are tons of KZbin videos out there showing how to work on the Navi CVT.

[@Bladomo]

This sort of thing just worries me so much. Imma get a grom real soon and it really makes me want one straight from the dealership

[@bodieman5468]

It's funny to listen to everyone guessing. It could be lots of things like you said in the video. It takes less than 5 minutes to pull off the cvt housing to inspect. You don't know if any components are aftermarket. I've modded my navi, and have had positive and negative results. First thing that comes to mine without being able to see inside, is there is an aftermarket clutch, or bell housing that's the wrong size. Next could be a bad combo of rollers or wrong size rollers. Over torqued variator bolt, causing the belt to stick, or possibly over torqued so bad it crushed the drive shaft bearing and its crank walking (check oil for shinys). My guess if the engine sounds good is that there is a broken clutch spring so the clutch is engaging even. That's 3 dollar, 20 mintue fix. FYI, I bought my navi because of your videos. Good luck, keep us posted.

[@Destroyer4790]

I think you're definitely on the right track. It would be well worth checking on yourself, just pulling the cover to look at everything wouldn't be difficult. If you read this comment and want some help, I'd be happy to help walk you through things. I work as a tech at a powersports dealership so I have access to specs and parts diagrams to help you with it.

[@jasoneile1077]

"How to disassemble/assemble a Honda Navi clutch" Video incoming :D (hopefully). I also bet on the centrifugal clutch and it would be cool to see some mechanical DIY stuff.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Hahah I wouldn’t doubt that there’s a video like that coming very soon! 😂

[@philipcloutier2553]

There is several vids already Rolling wrench has one out. More also on variator upgrades Malossi variator kits ect.

[@dav8388]

As soon as you described the issue the clutch was the first thing that came to mind. I would definitely take advantage of the warranty I don't see any reason they would deny it with only 800 miles on it.

[@dinospumoni8860]

Check out the cvt. I wonder if someone put different rollers in the cvt since you said it’s faster than the other Navi. I got a Honda pcx and I put ncy golden transmission kit in it with after market rollers and occasionally when I take off from a dead stop the belt slips and it chatters and jerks like that.

[@dinospumoni8860]

I think your on the right track. Could be a spring issue or shoe pad issues.

[@LifeOfBurch]

That thought had crossed my mind, but it doesn’t look like anyone’s opened it up before 🤔 Half of me wants to start digging into it, the other half of me wouldn’t know what I was looking for even if I did 😂 and if it is warranty thing, I don’t want to ruin that by doing anything myself. Decisions, decisions…

[@dinospumoni8860]

Check the torque on the nuts. The clutch and pulley have a nut that’s is torques on to hold everything together. Might just be a loose nut and the assembly is falling apart.

[@dinospumoni8860]

@@LifeOfBurch I say fix it or try to. Lots of people have navis. Could make a whole trouble shooting the Navi cvt series. Probably have a lot of views from it.

[@ridinokinawa]

@@LifeOfBurch Open and compare both your Navi’s, as a KZbinr lol

[@bluethundermonk]

Sounds like the first owner tried doing a tuneup to get more performance out of it and it didn’t go as well as they hoped.

[@wileecoyote5749]

Absolutely. Leave the damn things alone

[@philipcloutier2553]

So the vibration is most likely coming from the variator, the first part of belt engagement . This variator is controlled by a set of rollers that spin outwards. If the rollers are dirty they may stick for a second causing vibration (so clean). Or a set of damaged rollers flat spots , but are very cheap parts to change and installing 12 gram or 13 gram rollers can also increase pickup (variator closes faster) squeezing the belt, engaging the secondary clutch more quickly. I would check also polished variator surface causing belt chatter of course everything must slid on the boss freely and must be torqued to specs. Lastly possibly belt damage also very cheap I always have a spare anyway . The cvt cover is easy to remove 1 tricky bolt has a spacer . The cover wiggles out with a little wiggling back and forth the starter cap sticks a little and is finicky to reinstall. This is really easy to do with a metric socket set . And torque wrench. It will teach you how to tune CVT . Hight performance snowmobiles next month.

[@am_spec1744]

It’s the cvt clutch engaging and disengaging. You need to give it more gas to fully engage clutch. Also just take off the cvt cover and check variator and clutch/rear pulley

[@senseiii3986]

Sad to hear, hope you get it figured out man! I would take it to get it looked at under warranty bro if you can

[@LifeOfBurch]

Thanks dude! I’m definitely leaning towards starting out with the warranty attempt first.

[@californiapoontappa]

Warranty doesn't transfer owners

[@danasymosky5609]

@@californiapoontappa yes it does. Warranty is a attached to the bike, not the owner. It is absolutely still under warranty

[@masssparky1309]

My first bike was a 50cc genuine Roughhouse scooter. It was cvt and essentially what you were describing is the variator I had a similar issue. I changed out the rollers inside the variator and that solved my issues it is essentially a wear item so it depends on the mileage. Being so new there shouldnt be a problem but that would be an easy cheap fix. Love the channel been watching for a bit here good luck!

[@thomasthompson2899]

Kill two birds with one stone; sell the NAVI to Whistlindeisel so he can 'test' it thoroughly.

[@bilbocarter7732]

I would make sure the previous owner hasn't done anything to the CVT, I know there are some KZbin videos about changing the clutch/springs/weights to increase the acceleration of these bikes. Definitely would be my first look.

[@m007Cobalt]

The VARIATOR in the CVT is jacked ...do a reveno clutch and upgrade VARIATOR n put 12 gram rollers in it and boom like new n faster Search out RollingWrench he's do man expert on these

[@upminer6162]

I'm not being a dick but I don't get the amount of KZbinrs who buy shit under warranty then make videos complaining or trying to get people troubleshooting off a video. First off it's not brand new and it has 800 miles on it. So there was time for someone to mess with the CVT and change things, or it's new and despite Hondas reputation new things can go bad. That's what warranty is for. Seems like the seller is pretty stand up by telling you to bring it in but warning you if someone messed with it it won't be covered. Obviously the guy who sold it didn't do it or run it to know. And everyone skips titles it's not a sign of anything. I don't because I can get a title in a reasonable time where I live but if you get something on trade or are flipping you don't want to wait weeks to sell it.

[@bandwagon240]

Really sounds like a CVT issue to me. Maybe weights or springs, I'd see if it could be warrantied out before I went digging around. When you said it feels faster top end, I figured someone had been in that thing.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Yea I think warranty is the first step for sure. I’ve considered whether someone had swapped out some stuff previously, but it doesn’t seem to have been opened up before. And Nina and I took the Navis out together last night and it actually didn’t seem faster than hers like I thought, so I don’t know 😅

[@JasonCline]

@@LifeOfBurch These CVTs are not that complicated. Could just be a belt or a varitor adjustment. Maybe check out kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGOcaGVspN1mnMU

[@NeelNguyen]

Yeah I agree it sounds like a a CVT issue. Maybe the original person tried to do some upgrades and possibly didn't reinstall either the clutch or variator back correctly.

[@jhz1050]

@@LifeOfBurch check the variator rollers are stock. And that they have no flat spots

[@cocoloco65482]

@Neel Nguyen This is the most correct, accurate and close to what might have happened with this bike and previous owner and bike....

[@Dkmachine]

My first bike I bought from this very nice couple who also had another Rebel and some Grom's, but the title of the bike they were selling me wasn't in their name yet but was signed to transfer over to them from the previous owner. I had absolutely no problem getting the title into my name and notarized. I definitely do agree, though, with what you said. It was sketchy AF and I just got a hell of a deal. $4,800 for a Rebel 500 last year.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Nice deal dude!! Definitely can be sketchy with title situations like that, but best to feel the situation out. It’s usually kinda easy to tell if the person is trustworthy or not. Just gotta hope your gut instinct is right! 😅

[@californiapoontappa]

I bought a bike amd sold it 2 weeks later before I transfered it to my name. No issues. I hadnt signed the link yet so I just gave the pink to the dude how I got it from the seller and everything was gucci

[@dontdoxmebro]

That’s standard protocol for most dealers no need to put the assets in their name it’s a waste of money

[@californiapoontappa]

@@dontdoxmebro yes but typically when private sellers do this it means they found an issue with the bike and are trying to ditch it fast

[@tallynmichael]

2 things it probably could be from my experience. Either flat spots on the variator rollers seems to be common. 20 bucks fix or a bad belt thats less than 20 bucks. Even if you had to replace the stock clutch or variator and you wanted to stay stock cvt and not upgrade to better performance parts you would spend less than 100 bucks. If you can use a socket set you can do this yourself.

[@craigackerman2590]

about 350 for a new upgraded cvt system.

[@fernand0_montoya413]

Imma need your luck finding deals. I can only find an early 2000's bike for the same price as your new Honda Rebel :/

[@AllLifethingschannelyt]

Belt or rollers your braking in too hard how many miles did it have on it

[@tinman3586]

The Navi is freaking garbage, it's not even a real motorcycle like a Grom or Monkey.

[@mistflip69]

Your idle speed rpm is faster than the rpm that you're turning the throttle at so when it syncs up it probably just stops really quick and catches after or the belt could be pinching. Take off that side plate with the kick stand. Those transmissions are only 3 parts. Clutch, belt and the variator( if you don't include the flywheel and clutch bell lol) super super super easy to work on. Rolling wrench would probably point you in the right direction. Keep that thing. The fix is gonna cost $100 and half an hour

[@heithwatkins]

Not a big deal. It's under warranty. They will fix it.

[@millerhendrix6311]

Don't full throttle it! You're cvt tranny is slipping, the rollers are switched out, knowing you got the bike from a dealership guy if anything he has the capabilities around him to make everything look stock, line up both Navis and let's compare the speed and torque. Unless you wanna crack it open yourself I'd warranty but after they crack it open and see that it's been modified they're gonna charge you.

[@Randy-f8l]

Check the warranty but it might be a broken clutch spring.

[@ladyjedi3D]

Can’t wait to find out what’s wrong with it. Keep it.

[@saqlain6822]

I had a scooter that acted identical, issue was a flat spot on one of the rollers.

[@kamfrabuncha3199]

Rebuild it that is what I will do don't destroy it we Rebuild it

[@marthaburcham3509]

Hope you get it fixed so you and Nina both have one! But stress-testing it would be a blast for you!

[@LifeOfBurch]

Thanks!! And yea the torture test would be a BLAST! Some people already seem upset at that idea, but oh well 😂

[@marthaburcham3509]

@@LifeOfBurch you do you!!

[@jonnydelacruz8553]

U never should have made such a boring video about it also

[@craigjohnson8147]

Blow it up, B! Get a Benelli TNT135 instead.

[@bubbapate5740]

The problem is in the variator and it is a fairly easy fix. Some of the variator weights are sticking.

[@AyaWetts]

The stopping is an important part, so glad you tested that 🤣

[@LifeOfBurch]

😂😂😂

[@that_bobber_guy]

I would see about the warranty

[@LifeOfBurch]

Yea I’m definitely leaning that way! It would make my life much easier if it were a warranty item 🤞🏻

[@that_bobber_guy]

@@LifeOfBurch agreed....good luck 🤞

[@MirchiBoy]

Even though the guy passed-the-title, he doesn't owe you anything. This is part of the game and once you paid the money, the vehicle is yours, including the problems. You should be ready for that going into buying used vehicles. I really enjoy your channel btw

[@LifeOfBurch]

Agreed! A deal’s a deal and I should’ve checked better. Just trying to figure out what to do next. Live and ya learn! I knew better, but didn’t do better 😂 I appreciate the support dude!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@MirchiBoy]

@@LifeOfBurch I'm in Fairfax, I missed the meet up this year but I'll be there next year for sure 👊

[@autoantics]

If it were me, the first stop would be the dealer for warranty evaluation for sure. You can always decide to torture test it for clicks later, but if it’s obviously abused, the dealer definitely won’t cover it under warranty later.

[@kakachi]

This is one of the reasons why I think America is total s***, you don't run into these problems in Japan. Buy used vehicle (from a dealer) and you get a guarantee that the vehicle will be in perfect operating condition upon it's sale.

[@ur_cowboy]

@@kakachi that's cool, he didn't get it from a dealer so it still applys to japan

[@Ikkimoto18]

That the universal scooter issue.. Just clean the CVT parts, dude.. If the issue keeps coming back, punch some holes (2 cm apart) to the walls of the clutch bell.. That's the cheapest way..

[@inutil6117]

I was thinking the same thing! Maybe something misaligned in the clutch. It's almost like how a full size vehicle would act when you let the clutch out to fast, or don't press the clutch when you come to a stop.

[@ericdoe2318]

Adversity is good content you will get this fixed and make some good vedjas in the process

[@LifeOfBurch]

Thanks brotha! Adversity does indeed make good content. Never thought of it like that before! 🙌🏻

[@elizabethwonders]

I hope the shakes get figured out! Yikes! 😢😭❤️

[@toffeegaming3502]

My dads Honda lead has the exact same rattling and shaking however he doesn’t acknowledge it as a problem and he has had it for over 10 years now he has not had a problem with it I personally wouldn’t worry about it

[@LifeOfBurch]

That’s reassuring! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

[@Kavika-xh1qj]

Broken clutch spring.

[@michaelhargarten5118]

I agree with you about the clutch. I had the same issue with a scooter and I removed the clutch bell and sanded the contact surface of the clutch bell which cleared up the harsh vibration when accelerating from a stop.

[@kennv7566]

Go the warranty route first and let the shop take a look at the bike first. If it is something the warranty doesn't cover at least you'll have a answer what the noise is. I think the noise has something to do CVT/belt. I've worked on bikes many years and would be able to figure out how to fix it. Getting a Honda Navi service manual would also help. One thing also, please don't destroy this bike, I think this Navi can be fixed for a reasonable cost. I still think you still got a good deal on a used Navi.

[@KevinHernandez-vh9dl]

Probably just need a cvt belt

[@GunNut37086]

Go carts have centrifugal clutches too and they make that same sound/shake at take off. I think you nailed the source of the issue.

[@DavidJongibo]

Probably the weights

[@meytal_rockz6669]

Dude theres nothing wrong with it, relax man. Its a nice bike and your on this nice ride. It'll Be Fine!

[@fredmaldonado9204]

Yeah, something not right

[@vintagescoutingoutdoors9096]

Clutch spring.

[@fatbuddycat]

Lost me at WD.

[@AndrewZavala]

It's weird that the front rattles so much if it's a CVT issue, but I also do feel like it's a CVT issue since it happens on take off. The CVT is pretty simple (variator spins with engine, uses rollers to push the v-plate outward which moves the belt up and engages the clutch and changes the gear ratio), and it almost sounds like your belt is super loose. It's like 6 8mm bolts to pop that CVT cover off and take a look; super quick and easy. You can run it with the cover off and get a much better idea of what might be happening. Changing the rollers in the stock variator is one of the cheapest upgrades for the money that can really change performance. The stock rollers are 17grams and a lot of people go down to 12 or 13g for more acceleration. This previous owner could have done this and reinstalled incorrectly. I'm still banking on a loose belt which you would see right away when you pop that cover off. Hope you get it figured out! Looking forward to a follow up video.

[@LifeOfBurch]

Thanks for the insight brotha!! I really appreciate it! I’ll for sure keep everyone posted on what I find out 🤘🏻

[@brandoom9122]

100% agree with this. Pop that bad boy open and give her a looksie.

[@f.catfracassofracasso404]

That's your variator your weights are probably worn and are sticking and your belt is probably worn out sounds like it might have been ridden hard the problem is a easy fix. Your variator control's your take off as your clutch starts to engage. A simple fix...

[@armadilllo]

holy crap you can ramble

[@AnnapolisAudit]

damn thats some cheeks for real. i bought a brand new bike from an online dealer and its got issues so i got visa fighting with them right now.

[@firstnamelastname6717]

Sounds like the clutch or drive belt is slipping? Or skipping on taking off with the scooter. It just may need to be adjusted correctly

[@deltabravo1257]

Warranty…

[@jamesgarner890]

Warranty for sure.

[@antimatterhorn]

so you bought it from a mechanic who bought it from another mechanic. you almost definitely got a navi with custom rollers and an aftermarket clutch plate. you might notice more torque than your stock navi. *IF* that's the case, the extra noise is the smaller plate cover that lightens the clutch.

[@rebelbatdave5993]

Keep the battery/electric, if possible!? And put a PREDATOR 220? BIGGER IN IT? IF POSSIBLE? Might go faster? Never said it was a good idea!

[@Nomar1102]

Is the CVT clutch, you should keep it build up over time make it yours ROI will be better than just trashing it. I don’t know if is just me being a mechanic But I like watching this kind of videos. Definitely try to do the warranty first.

[@heritagehillsecurity8778]

Yes I concur.. Please, just don't thrash turd Navi, for the sake of thrashing. I would take the CVT cover of and look around. Now that Birch have 2, it is even better to get intimate with the Navi's!

[@Nomar1102]

@@heritagehillsecurity8778 I second that notion.

[@pocket5751]

Rebuild electric

[@LinkFelton]

If ya end up selling it I'll buy it lol. I get a Navi, and a fun weekend mechanic project lol

[@CrustyBiker]

Do a video of you fixing it yourself, change weights and belt or see if they do a polini kit for it, that can make it go a bit faster also? Videos are on KZbin, you will benefit from the experience and knowledge, knowing how to change belts and roller weights will save you money in future anyway... do not stress test it, it's a lovely machine that probably has minimal fault I love the colour if it too... we don't get them in UK but I wish we did, the only thing I would like to see is fuel injection on them..

[@HyllustheBarbarian]

Definitely sounds like cvt issue. With clutch, belt or both. But warranty does not cover cvt wear. Unless something broke prematurely, Honda will not cover cvt parts under their warranty protection. Check that cvt. If it is the clutch or belt or both that is a cheap fix and still worth the deal you got. 👍

[@packgrog]

Yeah, hearing what it sounds like, and seeing videos of other people changing out CVT parts on these bikes, my guess would be a clutch issue as well. DEFINITELY try to get it addressed with warranty. If the prior owner had messed with trying to do the upgrade, it'd be good to know that, in case he already voided the warranty. But it does indeed seem like something that should be easily fixable (or improvable) without too much money. Should be a way cheaper fix-up than that Rebel 500 was! Definitely don't trash it. It's still a freakin' Honda. Get it fixed, or do the fix yourself if Honda is a bitch about it.

[@meridianheights6255]

I wonder if someone rode it with that parking brake on? I heard that could cause damage.

[@greggannon4246]

its the CVT

[@johnekiss7891]

Check belt

[@chrishemsworth5150]

Warranty "

[@bettysmith4527]

Ugh, Honda quality is going downhill!! HONDA IS HAVING DCT ISSUES IN THEIR ATVS AND OTHER THINGS WITH THE DCT, FROM WHAT I EXPERIENCED AND HAVE READ, DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH! I test drove a used ATV with DCT that was traded with 3 miles and it clearly had significant transmission issues. It rode very rough, and hesitated with gear changes and bogged down, I guess this is reportedly a wide spread problem with Honda's DCT within the last few years, this ATV was a 2022 or 23 I forget which. Anywho, this might be going on with your bike, may be the DCT transmission!

[@LukeKwan78]

I found one for $1000 but didn’t get it bc it hadn’t ran since October. It had 5300 miles and dropped once

[@ss_whole]

Wow you keep all your bikes parked outside of an apartment complex? You must live in a really really good neighborhood..............if you know what I mean.

[@seanpalmer2050]

I'm sorry, did you say 'destroy' it was an option you are considering? Uh, what? I'm sure many people would love the chance to fix it.

[@Mr.Mini_Moto]

LMAO He Tried to blame you for the issues..... Yep.... another reason why to only buy from the dealership

[@francisgoldstien6153]

air leak

[@markcomisky7106]

Build it

[@thepab3072]

The Navi need a little more power, not much more but it needs it. I would love a 125cc fuel injection with a modern gauge cluster, led lamps/turn signals. I'm ready to pay more to get a better version of this moto. I'm thorn between the new Grom and the Navi, I want a fun no fuss low price bike. I had a 2014 Grom when it came out. Sold it to buy a 2017 FZ09, didn't like it and I sold it to buy my 2019 CB300R. The CB300R was like a big Grom, don't have it anymore, had a major crash in October. Ran into a deer at 90kmh, the deer and the bike are dead now 🤣🤣🤣 Need a replacement bike now 🤣

[@anthonyrossi3869]

Hi I have scooter called the explorer 50 which is the same bike as the ice bear vision scooter. SAME EXACT PROBLEM EVERYTHING YOU DID SLOWLY OR FAST ACCELERATEION IT SHAKES VIOLENTLY NO MATTER WHAT UNTIL YOU GO FASTER, AND IT MAKES A SOUND FROM THE BACK AND YOU CAN FEEL IT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR TRYING TO DRIVE SLOW WHICH THROWS YOU OFF LIKE YOU NEVER RODE A BIKE, ALSO YOU CAN SEE THE ENGINE SKIPPING AND HEAR A SOUND. ALSO WITH THE NOISE YOU CAN HEAR THE ENGINE GOING IN AND OUT LIKE ITS THE CLUTCH INCLUDING MINE

[@YZEtc]

Honestly, dude, I must have rolled my eyes a half-dozen times watching and listening to this video. It's not the end of the world, your Navi isn't a piece of sh*t that should be thrown off a cliff immediately, and you're being overly dramatic beating yourself up over this. First, either: A) It's still under the manufacturer's warranty, is it? GET IT TO A BONA-FIDE HONDA MOTORCYCLE DEALER if you are not going to fix it yourself. What the heck are you waiting for? It's likely something easy to fix and you may have had it repaired by now. or B) Take a look at both the inside of the air filter box and look inside the belt/pulley cover. My first guess is a mouse/rodent made a nest in one of these spots. Do us a favor and please update with another video once you get it fixed. If I had a nickel every time an Internet user asked for help on a motorcycle and NEVER gets back with the solution to the problem. Good luck. 👍

[@B0M0A0K]

Definitely a centrifugal clutch issue. Maybe there's oil on the clutch, or maybe a spring is broken. Suggest looking at two KZbin videos, "2022 HONDA NAVI CLUTCH INSTALL!" and "Honda Navi clutch broke / how to change clutch"

[@Jeff-cu7tn]

I dnt kno much about bikes but i can only imagine that there not like a car where somethin breaks n its 1500 $ to fix it... so if u ken find a fix for a few hundred bucks id say thats better than DESTROYING it 🤦‍♂️

[@kd2239]

16:02 - "so do i take it in for warranty work or do i crack it open and try and figure it out myself". DO NOT CRACK IT OPEN YOURSELF!!! If you do i am unsubscribing!!!

[@beaubrummelmotorizedbicycles]

If you got a good deal on it, just fix it. Jeez..... to much talking, just show whats wrong with it.

[@Jukithesuzuki]

If I bought it and it was doing that; first I'd try to figure of it was under warranty. I usually allow my self up to $500 for any used vehicle I buy. Just upfront maintenance I do, oil, filters, plugs, belts and any Miscellaneous "Needs". It's just part of my budget. My experience is different, it sounds like you don't have much mechanical experience. I'd stay out of it if I were you. I'd dive into it, but I've worked around motors, cars trucks all my life. (I'm 42, never ridden a motorcycle other than a Short ride followed by a moving dismount with a motorcycle lying on its side running in gear..... I think that was refferd to as a Whiskey Throttle and a few scary moments of chasing a spinning Dirtbike). Anyway. You might make some good content if you attempted it yourself. Or do you have any other buddies who are mechanically inclined? Bring them on your channel. Get the girlfriend to fix it. You guys seem to have a good presence on "film". Either way, what ever you do I wouldn't get rid of it. Honda really does make a good product (most of the time). I'd say it's worth the fix, (even you you pay dealer). Ride safe cheers brother 👍🏻

[@cleverusernames]

go get it fixed CVT's easy and it sounds like a clutch like a roller or some parts with the spring int eh back is messing up.

[@johnruffner5443]

Under MSRP? $3600.00 OTD @ Timbrook Honda Winchester Va. Double MSRP. I guess the $28000.00 Gold Wing is actually $56K.

[@noahmizrahi9834]

What went wrong was you tried to save $275 off the MSRP and got a used and abused 800 mile bike that some kid probably learned to ride on, they can only go 55 MPM, and like my older brother (who is in high school) He ruined the automatic trans and his Honda NAVI (means kind to people in india) did the same shuddering then started smelling like boot leather burning. He drove at top speed on the highway (55MPH) to school everyday for 5 months or 480 miles on the odometer. That is made in mexico, and the honda dealerships mechnics know when you abuse them like that and deny repair like that under warrenty. My brother was told the NAVI is basicly a scooter meant for 15-45 mph daily, or they will start doing what yours does. Another problem with his new one he is doing that again and there are always people in cars comming up behind him on the highwway doing 65 -70 fast and flashing headlights. My dad took it apart and repaired it, most of these commenters have it right, except the guy who compaired it to a Honda Ruckus they are nothing like a ruckus. NAVI is basicly a Honda Grom Scooter.

[@geraldscott4302]

Not into mini motos, but have owned a lot of CVT scooters. It's almost certainly the clutch. Even if the whole CVT is bad, it's still a cheap fix, plus you can mess with roller weights and stuff to make more KZbin content. I would first check out the warranty, if that doesn't pan out, then go ahead and pull the CVT cover, and the problem should become obvious. DON'T destroy it. A cheap repair will make it as good as new. Remember it was made in India and assembled in Mexico. If the engine runs good, there is nothing else expensive on it. If you feel like destroying something, destroy those hideous Rebels.

[@2020Max1]

Might be an easy fix, from what it sounds like you may have damaged or broken roller(s) in the clutch and they are not fully engaging until the engine reaches a certain speed. If it is potentially covered under warrantee, I would go that route at the very least you'd be able to find out exactly what is wrong with it and will have a better idea whether or not it's worth it to repair. As far as going the torture test route while it would be fun to see, I doubt that you'd make your money back on it. Thats a numbers game, Whistlingdiesel has 4.5mil subs and averages around 2mil views a video where as you currently have 46k subs and average around 3k views if you did make your money back it would take quite a long time.

[@ianendangan7462]

Rattling upon pickup acceleration? We in the Philippines called it “dragging”. Since we have so many cvt scoots around that if we encounter such we just clean the cvt as in disassembled wash it with gasoline and re assemble. My SYM Excel II does the same thing before when the cvt wasn’t cleaned for 30k km. Now it was cleaned and I don’t have those anymore.

[@williamguptill8096]

It's under warranty bro, It's under warranty. You get what you paid for. You spent $1800 on a brand new motorcycle what do you expect. And that I mentioned it's under warranty. I take my Honda navi Down dirt roads and full Wheeler trails and haven't had a problem at all. And if I did I would take it to the dealer cause it's under warranty. I wonder why you don't make any money on your KZbin channel. 🤯 wow.

[@motivationperseverance3077]

I don't know what it is with Honda's I had a Honda 350cc and a Honda 400CC two different motorcycles in each one of them was nothing but problems and problems and problems Honda is a big name and it's popular around the world but I have never had any luck with the two I had they both were a total nightmare until I finally got rid of them. Maybe Honda just uses its big name and puts less quality materials in the parts of the motors and everything else I don't know what it is. Was even more crazy is I bought a ice beer 125CC that's considered a cheaper bike it's made in China not Japan I've had that thing all year I drive it everyday hard and it runs like a fine Swiss watch ! Bottom line is I think Honda bikes are just junk. How could a Chinese inexpensive bike run so beautifully and then you buy a Honda and it is nothing but endless problems all the time so you tell me ?

[@marlon1598741]

Mine does exactly that and I'm aware of the problem, still don't fix it tho. My variator rollers are in really bad shape almost flattened , the clutch is in bad shape, springs are in bad shape, everything is in bad shape 😂 Idles ok, cruises ok... But whenever i stop or slow down it shakes a lot after pulling the throttle again. Sometimes it does even feel like the motorcycle is about to turn off (Almost like when you are running out of gas). Anyways, like a lot of comments here, it most certainly is a CVT issue...

[@DZNTZ]

Yeah, “I’m not the guy on the title” (or the typical variation “I’m selling for a friend”) is a deal breaker. Also, if you call and they say “which bike are you calling about” lol, just hang up.