What does your axis tilt mean to your layouts and ball motion

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Tenpin Doctors-JR Raymond

Tenpin Doctors-JR Raymond

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@DRock1818
@DRock1818 21 күн бұрын
finally someone showed a visual difference between tilt and rotation and not just talked about it. i understand it now. awesome job
@EdButlerDetroit
@EdButlerDetroit 21 күн бұрын
Might be the best most concise explanation of this I’ve seen. Great job!
@Tenpindoctors
@Tenpindoctors 21 күн бұрын
@@EdButlerDetroit someone will still say I’m stupid and don’t know what I’m talking about. Just wait
@EdButlerDetroit
@EdButlerDetroit 21 күн бұрын
@ You know it’s coming lol
@KennyGrinols
@KennyGrinols 18 күн бұрын
​@@TenpindoctorsI'll be your huckleberry. I told you about the correlation of Tilt and pin to pap 5 years ago in your comments, but back then you treated me like I was stupid. I'm glad to see you've come around. I want to help you, because you have a platform to teach people, and I believe it's important the education be accurate. At the 3:30 mark you either misspoke or were confused when saying high tilt bowlers with short pin to paps will have a ball that "burns up and pukes". This is not the case, in fact it's the exact opposite. We know it's the opposite, because immediately after you correctly stated that low tilt bowlers, use short pin to paps to "retain" tilt. Meaning if a high tilt bowler, uses a layout that "retains tilt", the ball will never get close to rolling out, because the ball will still have way too much tilt at the pins. Those are contradictory outcomes; Retaining tilt is the literal opposite of rolling out. High tilt bowlers need long pin to paps to bleed tilt as fast as possible, (as you stated) in order to get the ball to go through all 3 phases correctly. They will have success with lots of surface, long pin to paps, and symmetric balls, as symmetric balls lose tilt at twice the rate of Asyms. For the curious nerds like me: What most people perceive as roll out, is when tilt = rotation. True roll out is when tilt and rotation = zero. 99.99% of the time, balls are released with more rotation than tilt, rotation bleeds faster initially until axis rotation and axis tilt are the same, at which point they decrease at an equal rate until 0 is reached. (Assuming the lane was long enough)
@ronaldvanengen1887
@ronaldvanengen1887 21 күн бұрын
Raymond is spot on the tilt ❤🎉😊 Here is something to try take your normal hand position and place all your fingers together except your index finger keep ir our wide will get you high tilt And the opposite is true if u want low tilt all together but the pinky is wide!! Hammer 🔨 up a Storm 🎉
@tomdecarlo6691
@tomdecarlo6691 14 күн бұрын
excellent visual
@truetruths8090
@truetruths8090 20 күн бұрын
Glad I was able to get an order in. Thanks JR
@calebgilmore3327
@calebgilmore3327 21 күн бұрын
So I am wonky and have a -2.4° tilt. It seems like most of my stuff likes to yeet off the lane at the friction. 373 rpm/15.2mph last time checked. I end up having a little more tame ball reaction with a layout that I’ve been told “should be super early”. I need to watch the video a few more times to see if I pick up what you are putting down for sure 🤓
@jeremiegrund
@jeremiegrund 19 күн бұрын
Kudos for making me bust out laughing with the “yeet off the lane” comment lmao!
@brettnordling2417
@brettnordling2417 19 күн бұрын
Well explained many think tilt is axis rotation.
@gregcochennet385
@gregcochennet385 19 күн бұрын
Are going to get any more of these in the future
@HawkMothAMA
@HawkMothAMA 21 күн бұрын
Fastest I've ever ordered something. Hoping to improve my release but can't get to the bowl to practice as often as I'd like
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl
@ScottyThompson-lt7wl 20 күн бұрын
Cool video talk tech bowling Jr Raymond
@chipgoode
@chipgoode 21 күн бұрын
JR you CAN ramble sometimes but not this time man. I REALLY appreciate your videos for learning. Thank you ^_^
@TerryBollea1
@TerryBollea1 8 күн бұрын
The ball doesn't react stronger with higher tilt. It still a slow hook phase with high tilt. The ball has more energy going into the pins with high tilt, and you get more pin action....but dont confuse more energy with stronger reaction. Reaction means how much the ball moves. High tilt, the ball barely moves. Thats why pba players all have low tilt (the ones that win anyway). They want that strong violent reaction off the dry. You get that with low tilt. Remember, youve even said you want that core more on its side, for a bigger reaction. High tilt puts that core farther upright, so it falls over fast and you get less reaction. You've said all this before. Why the contradiction here?
@leftyMOTIVguy
@leftyMOTIVguy 21 күн бұрын
I'm not in a good situation. I'm low tilt and low axis rotation. That's why I usually do better on sport patterns than a house shot.
@SteveN-gh6dc
@SteveN-gh6dc 19 күн бұрын
In theory could you put it on wheels and it would kinda teach the back shoulder a little more too??
@D8Wavvy
@D8Wavvy 15 күн бұрын
I'm a two-handed bowler with high revs and low ball speed. My PAP used to be 5 3/8" over and 3/8" down, but it has recently changed to 5 1/8" over and 2 7/17" up. With my increasing axis tilt, are there specific layouts and equipment I should consider focusing on?
@G_Weezy
@G_Weezy 21 күн бұрын
Just ordered. The release trainer broke on me.
@CorbyQ
@CorbyQ 18 күн бұрын
So youre inMichigan tahts awesome. I havent been able to bowl on aloooong time. Ive got neuropathy in my feet and hands due to my diabetes. Im really scared to attempt to bowl again, because i have lost so much of my calf muscles im afraid of going ass over head at the foul line. I really need to find a way to see if i can still do it. Also afraid of dropping the ball. I need help.
@davehansen2264
@davehansen2264 21 күн бұрын
well it appears that you sold the first 100 very quickly. are you going to sell more at this price? Inquiring minds need to know.
@ljforte1188
@ljforte1188 21 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, its sold out. Do you know when you will restock?
@ceej502
@ceej502 21 күн бұрын
I missed the video and it sold out fast
@jmorphius3619
@jmorphius3619 22 күн бұрын
Are you suggesting high tilt players go with longer pins? Like say a 5 inch pin? I’m usually 4 1/4 - 4 3/8 pap and get alot of backend until the lanes burn up then my ball reads way to early resulting in me struggling to get the ball down the lane. I have roughly 13-14 mph ball speed with around 340 rpm rev rate.
@StephRenee812
@StephRenee812 20 күн бұрын
Thats great pin to pap distances I tried a 5½" pin and a 5¾. Never again. They are like spare balls. So correct on the higher tilt pin distances
@brianlevandowski3167
@brianlevandowski3167 6 күн бұрын
I just got mine today in the mail, my Bearings are loose they popped out. Should I use hot glue gun to put them back in secure? I need to clean the old glue off because they won't sit flush.
@Tenpindoctors
@Tenpindoctors 6 күн бұрын
@@brianlevandowski3167 hot glue would be perfect. That what should have been used initially.
@stone4524
@stone4524 21 күн бұрын
Having a really hard time trying to order this. The website doesnt ask for payment info, it just goes right to the order screen after taking the delivery address. I even made a profile and it just wont let me order it.
@maximillianvoisard
@maximillianvoisard 21 күн бұрын
Sorry for your troubles, I noticed that error too. I'm the developer of the site. The issue should be fixed.
@eliasjuarez2282
@eliasjuarez2282 17 күн бұрын
i was just at the online store and i didn't even see it anywhere so i guess i wont get the upgrade. already bought the other one for like 60 bucks.
@JohnMahiai
@JohnMahiai 19 күн бұрын
How do I order the new ball releaser spinner ?
@eliasjuarez2282
@eliasjuarez2282 17 күн бұрын
there is a link in the video description, but it sounds like he sold out already. link is worth checking out though
@Jaqwe1
@Jaqwe1 21 күн бұрын
pain I missed out
@davemiranda953
@davemiranda953 22 күн бұрын
👍🏼 for the Lions sweatshirt
@iwishuwuld1
@iwishuwuld1 18 күн бұрын
Sorry about your Lions smh great year
@Psprowl91
@Psprowl91 21 күн бұрын
Damn.. already sold out 😭😭
@michaelbonnette873
@michaelbonnette873 21 күн бұрын
Right..bummed 😢
@TRISHYXX
@TRISHYXX 15 күн бұрын
I don't see any for 30-40 bucks
@TerryBollea1
@TerryBollea1 8 күн бұрын
But you said layouts dont matter for us mere mortals.
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