Both Bows go head to head with zero stabilization! Who do you think will win!?
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@jamestipton97626 ай бұрын
Good comparison! Newer is not always better Thank you for sharing this
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@royhoglund13226 ай бұрын
I Love my Phase 4. I have a Lift coming and I can't wait to set it up and compare. Thanks for sharing your video!
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
You’re welcome! I loved both bows! The draw cycle is the best thing about the Lift in my opinion! Throw some stabilizers on it and she’s rock steady
@jankompan6 ай бұрын
Seeing this, no regrets buying my first bow phase 4 ... 3 months ago (before releasing lift).
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
There’s nothing wrong with the P4!
@marlonorsburn43456 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison man! I have the P4 33 and I really like it a lot. I’m a lefty so it’s going to be awhile before I can shoot the lift.
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
I loved my phase 4 until I shot the lift.. draw cycle is what sold me
@marlonorsburn43456 ай бұрын
@@dillonwalling that’s good too hear! 👍
@BY-dq3mt22 күн бұрын
I bought a lift 29.5 but kept my phase 4 29 for now. I’m having trouble deciding which one to keep. The p4 has a 28 mod, the lift has a 28.5 mod and the draw lengths feel similar. The big difference to me is the weight. The lift is noticeably lighter, but the P4 isn’t heavy, so weight won’t be a real factor for me. I continue to feel that the P4 is quieter and has less vibration. The P4 holds steadier and I attribute that to the weight. Both draw cycles are fine and feel like Mathews to me. I have the limbs all the way down on both and both mods are 60 lbs. The lift does have a place near the end of the draw that requires more effort. The lift is a touch faster but not enough to matter to me. I’m still not sure which I will keep, but I’m leaning P4. Both bows are worth it, it’s just personal preference.
@dillonwalling21 күн бұрын
I would try and run the lift at the same exact draw length as the p4. And see if anything changes.. but in the end shoot the one you shoot the best!
@goldtip3424 күн бұрын
Nice shooting. Always people hating, keep on doing your thing.
@dillonwalling24 күн бұрын
I ain’t worried about em 👊🏻 thanks man
@stuartbaker33266 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this video! I just bought a phase 4 over the summer, and I'm seriously considering swapping to the lift. In all honesty, from your test, I'd stick with the phase 4! That group is 100 times better! For me, I think it will come down to the draw cycle. I haven't tried the lift yet, but I'm not a big fan of the draw on the p4. I also shoot a 29, so the cycles are a little harsher on both bows from what I hear.
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
The only thing I can say is it could be that I was used to shooting the P4… I love the Lift and the draw cycle is amazing.. thanks for watching
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
Your phase 4 will be fine! Shoot what works best for you!
@BY-dq3mt4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the video. I have a P4 29 and it’s great. I’m a decent shot, nothing special. If I’m being completely honest, as long as I execute the shot the way I should, I’ve gotten very similar accuracy and consistency from the Halon, V3, VXR, and P4. There are some differences in the bows of course, but similar good results. The Lift story is about less weight, new cams, factory string upgrade….I haven’t tried one yet, but I’m betting my results will be very similar to my other Mathews….so it will boil down to having something new and cool to mess around with. And there’s nothing wrong with that!
@dillonwalling4 ай бұрын
Amen brother!
@donovanstockton70814 ай бұрын
Finally a fair video. I have both bows and don’t think one is “better” than the other. I haven’t been able to find meaningful performance differences. Draw cycle on Phase 4 33 is easier but not as consistent as the lift. The weight savings gets lost when fully rigging your bow. Maybe the 1” reflex difference gives the slightest advantage to the lift. But overall both bows are awesome. Killed 3 doe and 1 buck with the phase 4 and the sound dampening was pretty remarkable. Didn’t seem like the deer reacted much to the shot.
@jwild53606 ай бұрын
Solid form dude. Mass weight without bars typically is Gona win out on hold as I’m sure you know. I’ve got them both as well I want to add some mass weight to the lift and compare them at the same mass weight with bars
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
I ended up adding one more ounce to my front bar vs the weight I was running on the Phase 4.. the Lift has been amazing so far!
@user-rp7to3xk3o6 ай бұрын
It's always been the consensus that heavier is always a more stable platform which is kinda what you found out without the stabilizers. The P4 is a 1/2 lb heavier and that Hamskea Trinity is probably close to that much heavier than the QAD. A better test would probably be to shoot those ends with the stabs on one bow score it and then put the stab setup on the other bow and score it. They are similar enough bows that they will probably always be pretty close in score though.
@user-rp7to3xk3o6 ай бұрын
I have a lift coming in the next week or so, hopefully. I'll be doing the same testing for myself to see which bow I'll be keeping, between the Lift 33" and the P4 33".
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
Good idea… I chose the Lift and let my P4 go
@user-rp7to3xk3o6 ай бұрын
@@dillonwalling that's probably what's gonna happen for me as well
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
@@user-rp7to3xk3o if you like a touch more aggressive draw cycle and a little shorter valley.. there’s no doubt you’ll be keep the Lift
@matthewwollmann58036 ай бұрын
Did u have to swap out top hats on ur lift ?
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
No I didn’t, on the past few Mathews I’ve built I had to flip them in at least one cam.. this one tuned good with my hunting arrows
@matthewwollmann58036 ай бұрын
No cable rubbing on the cams issues? What’s the deal with some people complaining that the cable is rubbing the cams when drawing the lift… realy want to get this bow but has me a bit worried after reading about that stuff
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
@@matthewwollmann5803 I haven’t heard of that rumor yet..
@chrississon26465 ай бұрын
🏹🎯
@johnmusto52876 ай бұрын
I have phase 4 29 and I have the lift 29.5 both are awesome but I like to lift a little bit more
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
I like my Lift more as well! I just thought this would be an interesting video comparing bows without any stability added
@traviscroft916 ай бұрын
Looks to me you need to sell that lift …I’ll take it off yr hands for 5$ awesome video
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
😅😅 thank you! I actually got rid of the Phase 4… I love the Lift rigged out with stabs it’s rock solid!
@timgruver59326 ай бұрын
My 2€’s- shooting at 60 yards is stretching it for accurate feedback? Unless you’re a highly accomplished archer. I would think something like 40 yards max would be a more realistic test. Of course, it’s all subjective because you’re outside in the wind etc. And one bow being new to you adds another dimension as you’re not really familiar with it. But, hey, it’s all in fun anyway. I enjoy your videos 👍👍👀
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
I tend to shoot triple digits often… so 60 is pretty average for me
@bryancarpenter32736 ай бұрын
My mans windage on the lift, is clearly off
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
Could be, both bows were shooting left.. doesn’t change the group size tho..
@suzgabverdugo9336 ай бұрын
I sure would hate to shoot a none flighted 3d course with this guy out taking his own score😂 0 we will just call it a 5😂😂😂 final score at the end of the day 240😂😂
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
What if I was your judge
@suzgabverdugo9336 ай бұрын
@@dillonwalling then I might get a check or belt buckle 🤣
@josephfolsom20305 ай бұрын
You could pass as Levi Morgan’s brother
@dillonwalling5 ай бұрын
How you know I’m not 👀👀
@davidbeatty5486 ай бұрын
I think you scored the lifts last round wrong should’ve been a 16 not a 20
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
There is a possibility! I was in a hurry making this video… looking back I think I scored those 2 arrows as 5s..
@tullymahin3 ай бұрын
Fake news. That was the greatest group in the history of archery, ev-er
@lawrencefranck94176 ай бұрын
P4 is quieter
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
I don’t think so, the Lift just has a different sound.. a decimal meter would be nice to have in this video
@Oleman726 ай бұрын
Looking for sponsorships much.
@dillonwalling6 ай бұрын
Nah I buy all my stuff, but I’ll take what I can get! Spend your money on what makes you happy… like your fish.. have a good one
@dryflyonly15 ай бұрын
Neither... Prime bows..
@dillonwalling5 ай бұрын
Been there before
@Getdownorlaydownbum4 ай бұрын
Prime lol
@CalebSmith874 ай бұрын
Open your mind brother. I'm not a Mathews fanboy by any means. I just bought the lift and it's my first Mathews bow. I got the elite omnia last year and I love it too. I will use both as needed depending on what I'm doing. Just cause prime is what you chose doesn't mean it's the best for everyone.