Athletic Trainer vs Physical Therapist

[@drjustinleedpt]

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[@ronaldting1524]

Great video! I'm a certified athletic trainer and it's great seeing this type of video that breaks down the two professions nicely. I work in the collegiate setting as an athletic trainer but also do some industrial work on the side when I can. Huge respect for the PTs we work with and it's awesome to be able to collaborate with them regularly to get our patients back to doing what they love. Athletic training isn't easy, the hours are long, in-season you might go 7 days a week, but if I had the chance to go back in time, I'd do it all over again. I call it the best seat in the house, you're right on the sideline. You do have the occasional 40 yd dash to an injured player, who always finds a way to go down on the furthest part of the field from where you are, and trying to do an injury evaluation huffing and puffing from your sprint haha.

[@drjustinleedpt]

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I really appreciate your comment and how much value it adds to the channel. It’s great to hear your perspective as a collegiate ATC and a bit on your work life. I appreciate you sharing the love with PTs. We are also grateful for you ATCs for making sure all the athletes are safe and very well taken care of!

[@Musihoodie]

Can you work in a physical therapy clinic as an athletic trainer?

[@DadHoopz]

Sounds like a fun career!

[@easymoneyrad]

@@Musihoodiecan someone please answer this question

[@easymoneyrad]

@@DadHoopzdid you get into it

[@raymonddivirgilio7237]

You forgot to mention that Athletic Trainers also deal with other types of injuries and situations. For example lacerated spleens, cardiac, dental, facial, nutrition, and mental. Athletic trainers do not always work alone they act as liaisons between many health professional fields including physical therapy. An Athletic Trainer works with a variety of physically active populations from pre-adolescent to the elderly. Athletic Trainers do pre-activity screening looking for possible defects that may lead to possible injuries later. The athletic trainer is also there after the injury and rehabilitative process are finished to help the patients transition back to physical activity and also maintain their strength. this is just a small amount of work that an Athletic Trainer does during a daily work day.

[@Matthewholst00]

This is for anyone who is coming here and wants to hear a perspective on AT school and prospective stuff. I'm an AT Master's student and this video really doesn't explain AT 100% accurately. An Athletic Trainer employs the same techniques as a PT does; they both do manual therapy, cryotherapy, thermal modality treatments, neuromuscular re-education, implement rehabilitation programs that no longer need to be signed off by a physician, implement strengthening programs, work on balance and proprioception, etc. On top of all that they know emergency care. Both professions work to assess, diagnose, and treat patients. So there isn't a big difference in what they actually do. The patient difference depends on the setting and on the following chunk of stuff but for an abbreviated version it depends if you are a specialized PT or AT. So there are certainly differences if you choose to look at what a neurological PT does vs an AT that works in a clinical setting alongside them. Now if you want to compare sports PT to AT, you can't convince me that that PT isn't getting paid a PT salary to the same job as an AT. Where they really differ is what education looks like and the advancement of their professional education beyond the core education(currently an MSAT for AT students and a DPT for PT students). AT is in a strange spot because the credentialing organization didn't want to push the MSAT grads to a Doctor of Athletic Training degree. They want to push for a medical model where after the MSAT you then can choose to become more specialized with residencies and then fellowships. So in that regard, the profession is like PT once they graduate with their DPT and can choose to go into specialized fields which have already been established. This is an issue for me personally because I want to specialize in neurotrauma but that isn't something that exists because, again, AT is in a weird educational spot. Residency programs are now being pushed for and I'm sure the options will grow and fellowships along with them, but it's a tough spot to be in when weighing the options of the professions. Keep in mind this is my personal experience and what I am interested in. This will not apply to everyone. I'm just being honest when I say that I don't know where to go after graduating from my MSAT program. Getting a DAT degree would be great since they're offered online and most programs require minimal time on campus, and it would allow me to work and learn at the same time from home while I gain experience that's needed to apply for residencies. But I also have considered PT school from the start and if it weren't for my poor performance my freshman year of undergrad, I would've applied to PT school most likely because they do have a sports specialization and also a neurological specialization. If you've read this far and you're a working professional in any of the therapy fields(AT, PT, OT, etc) please give me some feedback because I'd love to hear some thoughts

[@henriquegiacomini8959]

I am studying physical therapy in Brazil, I am a fresh man, and your videos helped me choice this way. I saw your channel for the first time when I lived in the US a few months ago, and now I moved back to Brazil but I keep watching your videos, congrats for your job, you look to be really good in what you do! If you have some free time, I'd really like to debat about the differences between physical therapy in Brazil and in the US.

[@Katheive]

As a kid trying to find a career path, this video was helpful and exciting. Thanks!

[@TheKristamazing]

Thank you for mentioning performing arts!! This career choice is really catching my interest.

[@phantom2890]

Thanks man ! Love the video. That salary keeps pulling me back to sports P.T everytime I try to study A.T 😮‍💨

[@drjustinleedpt]

I made this for YOU man!!

[@zoasta2459]

We in the same boat that’s a big jump.

[@lke6231]

That’s such bs that they’re requiring a masters to work as an athletic trainer,. They’re only gate keeping the profession by needlessly extending the time it takes to get the degree and increasing the amount of debt people will have.

[@kyiannac.4936]

First. I'm so glad that you posted this.. I've been wanting to figure out the difference since I'm becoming both... ❤️❤️👍👍👍👍

[@drjustinleedpt]

YESSS!! Thank you for being the first to comment! Im glad this video was helpful to you! Which career interests you more?

[@kyiannac.4936]

@@drjustinleedpt the AT is what interests me the most. For me I am becoming a Personal Trainer and I feel like they are for immediate care and work with you pretty similar to PT but post rehab. Is it possible to work as both???

[@huntinggeckos7065]

About to change my major to AT. Thank you for the helpful information

[@easymoneyrad]

What was it prior to

[@jasminegutierrez4697]

I always learn something new from your videos, keep up the awesome work!

[@drjustinleedpt]

Wow ! Thank you for the encouragement!!

[@maysnwhitten329]

great video! could you do a video on dual programs (at/pt) or being certified in AT and then going into dpt?

[@kevinl5171]

Currently a massage therapist of 5 years. I'm more in line with athletic performance/pain management than spa/relaxation. Diagnosing and prescribing exercise is out of my SOP. More and more I see with the general working population that they benefit more from active based treatments vs. passive. I'm 33 years old, currently still in debt and massage isn't exactly a high paying job (relative to the education cost it is). I've never taken any college courses so I'm pretty positive at this point DPT is not something I could commit to both personally and financially. Based on my current education and background I could become a personal trainer overnight basically, but I'm not sure that would get me where I want to be. Do you have any recommendations for other paths I could take? Thank you.

[@wykeshawhite4073]

Very informative! AT for me🙋🏽‍♀️💜

[@erriestar]

I want to be both, how do you think that will be and is it possible? Will it be an advantage if I work for a sports team since I would be dual credentialed?

[@ashleygardner6696]

AT salary isn’t matching the educational requirements.

[@김도현-b6y4t]

좋은 영상 감사합니다 Im wathcing in kor. thanks for your video.

[@JohnHernandez-kh1vt]

First person trainer. Not athletic, is going to be too hard for me. Second physical therapy Second. I know I can do this. Sorry I got a condition 😔 TBI 6 years ago. I was perfect. But know, I'm not, I need this for my future. My future family. Thanks love you videos I know it will help me, hope sow

[@drjustinleedpt]

Im glad the videos are helpful! Peronal trainer first and then PT! LETS GO!! That's what I did and I think it was a perfect route to go

[@JohnHernandez-kh1vt]

@@drjustinleedpt yeah okay. But I'm really scared, if is going to be hard 😕 😔

[@AmericanPTstuttgart]

If Lebron James tears his ACL, an ATC may do the complete rehab from A-Z, yet our billing codes are still not accepted. I have been waiting for the APTA to buy out the NATA for ages. I would advise any student who wants to be an ATC in anything more than a high school setting to back it with a second medical credential, DPT, Chiro, MD, or even physician assistant. The ATC education was a blast, but unfortunately, the marketing/public education behind our actions is terrible.

[@nickouten2154]

Any chance you could take a look at similarities between physical therapy and cardiac rehabilitation specialists?

[@drjustinleedpt]

Ooo thats a great topic! Let me see what I can do!

[@nickouten2154]

@@drjustinleedpt thanks man🤞

[@aaronfigueroa2427]

Amazing video thank you!

[@drjustinleedpt]

You're very welcome!

[@boxofpears2]

Hey Dr. Lee, so I am looking into a career as an athletic trainer but I notice a lot of positions require (if not all) the athletic training certification. Can you mention a few jobs that I could do that do not require that to just get some experience to make it easier to get an athletic trainer job once I finish all my schooling and certification?

[@peytonrosenberg6603]

Great video!

[@drjustinleedpt]

Thank you so much!

[@armandodnieves]

What would be the similarities and differences in the work duties of a PT with a SCS versus an ATC?

[@drjustinleedpt]

For the most part what the biggest difference is: ATC do more emergency care, and PT do more post-emergency care (rehab)

[@erickfarinas5894]

Greats videos and updates.

[@cartersand2864]

How about both? I am a rising senior in high school and have a bunch of dual enrollment credits. I will most likely be able to shave off a year or two from my undergrad. Would becoming an ATC and a DPT be beneficial with this extra time?

[@IfrahAmin-z2f]

Hi, I hope you're doing great. I am a DPT graduate from Pakistan and I want to pursue my masters abroad because there are no job opportunities here, can you please guide me further what path can I take because most of the international universities provide masters in kinesiology and athletic training instead MPT

[@phillipmansfield1631]

phillip mansfield 0 seconds ago do you know any way to train someone with heterotopic ossifacation . I have a bone growing into my abductor muscle in my hip as a result of a full hip replacement. I am 47. The replacement came from a bike crash. It's rare. My therapist did me no good. The range of motion doesn't allow any movements to engage my thigh muscles. I'm a year in and i can see my leg shrinking. I wonder what the future will bring

[@drjustinleedpt]

Wow thank you for sharing your story. I am sorry to hear about your decreased of function and muscle atrophy.. Have you talked to your primary car physician/ortho specialist or other healthcare professionals (besides PT?

[@phillipmansfield1631]

@@drjustinleedpt I have but they just havn't dealt with anyone that has had my problem before.I'll figure this out on my own. Thank you for responding . you are 2 of about 1000

[@dannys7184]

I’m scared to not be able to enter a dpt program, cuz what if I spend all that money and time and not get entered into a med school, so I’m not sure if it’s something I want to do/take the risk

[@noahserna7046]

I agree!!! I am thinking about pursuing a Bachelor Degree in Kinesiology Athletic Training and see where it goes from there.

[@drjustinleedpt]

Thats a good point. That's why you got to get in the first time! I can help you do that, like I helped countless students get admitted the first cycle!

[@drjustinleedpt]

@@noahserna7046 If you want to be certified as an AT, you would need additional school (masters degree) to work as an AT

[@noahserna7046]

@@drjustinleedpt oh ok thanks for the advice I appreciate it. I’m also worried about the amount of debt students get into because of pt school. That’s something that holds me back because some students get into hundreds of dollars in debt.

[@drjustinleedpt]

@@noahserna7046 although this is somewhat true, you can still look for schools that have a lower tuition. Some students might not have that luxury but if you do, it’s worth heavily weighing lower tuition. In addition, if you budget correctly and live within your means, I’ve seen people pay off 100+ loans in 2-3 years.

[@IfrahAmin-z2f]

Can I apply in masters of Athletic training after DPT?

[@nickblore5063]

I study sports therapy in England, is a sports therapist the English version of a physical therapist? Or are there differences?

[@dondon3421]

Watching from philippines yay

[@IvoryWCUE]

I wish I knew why AT pays so little, yet is soon is going to be expecting a Masters degree. Smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Spashblush]

3rd party reimbursement.

[@Alex-zu1fs]

What should I major in for an Athletic Trainer?

[@seongki1003]

Athletic Training

[@carsonryan765]

Is it possible to be both an athletic trainer and a physical therapist?

[@joelrzepko5661]

What undergrad major would you recommend for a student that will want to go on and go to PT graduate school? My son is a high school senior and is struggling with this choice. He wants to eventually work for a pro sports team and there athletes

[@_k.ceeeee]

Biology 🙂

[@seongki1003]

BS in Exercise Science to Doctor of Physical Therapy (3+3)

[@hannarakhangi2686]

Hi i have completed my bachelor's of physical therapy from India and I wanna pursue higher education. I am super confused between T-DPT and ms in kinesiology. Can you please help me out with more insight

[@drjustinleedpt]

If you want to work as a PT in the US, you must graduate with a doctorate level education, not a masters.

[@seongki1003]

even at the bachelor level There are states where PT licenses are available. -> tDPT

[@swagsukeuchiha7599]

Im depressed.

[@drjustinleedpt]

Why are you depressed?

[@diegoandreicalingasan1080]

Can I ask what course in college to take for athletic trainer? Can it be a PE Teacher?

[@drjustinleedpt]

You need to get a master in athletic training in order to be an athletic trainer

[@jenniferrosales5783]

I really want to do both! is that harder

[@LifeOfBG3]

You can major in athletic training and still apply to PT school.

[@Musihoodie]

As a athletic trainer can you get employed in a physical therapy clinic?

[@dakotahvanover4291]

Absolutely or even orthopedic clinics where you could do casting and such

[@ishmaeljohnson6538]

What’s the difference between physical therapy and physiotherapy

[@physiomarcus6653]

it's the same, but most in aus, New Zealand, and uk called PT physios, while USA calls them physical therapist.

[@cierranixon3463]

pt

[@joebrooks9687]

Bruh, put your hands down lol.

[@drjustinleedpt]

thanks for the feedback

[@joebrooks9687]

@@drjustinleedpt the least I can do. Ppl follow your hands and forget what you're saying.

[@drjustinleedpt]

@@joebrooks9687 Good to know. I will keep this in mind as I film future videos