Pentagram and Pentacle - Gothic Symbols #2 | lilachris

[@lilachris]

When I was working at the gothic shop, a lot of younger kids would come in and ask for 'that devil symbol' or 'that satan star thing' as a pendant or patch or whatever. It always made us laugh and we sometimes tried to explain a little about the pentagram and its meanings.

[@uhohwawh6965]

lilachris "SATAN EVIL STAR THING" HAHAHAHHAHAHAH IM SCREAMING HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@Frank289100]

ARE YOU AWARE THE DEVIL IS EVIL AND YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS A SUB CULTURE ALL CREATED BY THE DEVIL SATAN. THE INVERTED PENTAGRAM IS THE ANTICHRIST. IN SOME CATHOLIC CHURCHES YOU WILL SEE A PENTAGRAM IN THE STONE WORK WHICH IS THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM. ONCE THE DEVIL BORROWED IT TODAY NO MATTER IF IT IS INVERTED OR UPRIGHT IT IS NOW AFFILIATED TO SATAN. YOU HAVE A INNOCENTS ABOUT YOU SO MY ADVISE TO YOU IS TO STAY CLOSE TO GOD AND CHRIST. THERE IS A HELL AND GOD CREATED IT FOR ALL THOSE WHO OPPOSE GOD/CHRIST. HERE IS A FOOTNOTE. THE DEVIL'S POWER COMES FROM GOD AS A MEANS TO WEAVE OUT THE GOOD FROM THE BAD AND THE LOYAL FROM THE DISLOYAL AND GOD CAN REMOVE SATAN'S POWER AT ANYTIME GOD PLEASES.. DO NOT DO ANY MAGIC OR YOU WILL INVITE THE DEVIL AND THE FALLEN ANGELS INTO YOUR LIFE. YOU SEEMS TO BE A GENTLE INNOCENT SOUL WHO HAS A TENDENCY TO HELP OTHERS. THIS IN TURN IS A THREAT TO SATAN'S AGENDA AND THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN HARM YOU IS TO LURE YOU INTO MAGIC, ETC WHERE YOUR VEIL OF PROTECTION FROM GOD WHICH YOU WERE BORN WITH IS REMOVED FOR GETTING INVOLVED IN THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF THE DEVIL SATAN AGENDA. AT THIS POINT THEY WILL DESTROY YOU SO TAKE THIS ADVISE I GIVE TO YOU STRONGLY.

[@Frank289100]

THERE IS A BBQ PIT DOWN BELLOW AND THESE PEOPLE STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES THAT AWAIT THEM IN THE END IF THEY DON'T IMMEDIATELY TURN BACK TO GOD/CHRIST FOR FORGIVENESS.

[@Frank289100]

THE PENTAGRAM IS WHAT YOU SEE ON TOP OF A CHRISTMAS TREE WHICH SYMBOLIZES THE STAR OF BETHLEHEM. THE DEVIL SATAN TOOK THAT STAR OF BETHLEHEM AND INVERTED IT SYMBOLIZING THE ANTICHRIST. SATANISTS DO USE IT IN BOTH ITS UPRIGHT FORM AND INVERTED FORM. A WORD TO THE WISE AND ALWAYS REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE POWER IN THIS UNIVERSE AND THAT POWER IS GOD/CHRIST. GOD CREATED HELL NOT THE DEVIL SATAN. THIS SYMBOL OF THE INVERTED PENTAGRAM IS IN OPPOSITION TO EVERYTHING CHRIST SAID. MY ADVISE TO YOU IS GET YOURSELF A BIBLE AND DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THIS KIND OF STUFF BECAUSE IN THE END THE DEVIL WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU AS YOU PERISH INTO HELL. LET ME ALSO WISH YOU A MERRY, MERRY CHRISTMAS.

[@Frank289100]

DARYL, YOUR ASS IS ON FIRE. KEEP THINKING THERE IS NO DEVIL. I WAS AN ATHEIST 25 YEARS AGO AND BLESSED WITH A INCREDIBLE MUSICAL TALENT SECOND TO NONE. I WAS ENTICED INTO A RECORD CONTRACT BY THIS FALLEN ANGEL. SECONDLY EVERYBODY THINKS THE DEVIL SATAN IS A MAN, BUT I WILL ASSURE YOU EVEN THOUGH IT IS NEITHER MAN NOR WOMEN IT IS A BEAUTIFUL WOMEN WITH INTOXICATING BEAUTY. I SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE I HAD MY COCK IN THE DEVIL'S MOUTH AND DROPPED MY LOADS ALL OVER HER. I ADVISE YOU START WITH ROGER MORNEAU'S - A TRIP INTO THE SUPERNATURAL TESTIMONY ON KZbin. MY STORY AND BOOK WHICH IS BEING WRITTEN DWARFS ROGER'S STORY AND HIS STORY STILL FASCINATES ME, WHO I HAVE FAR GREATER EXPERIENCE THEN HIS.

[@riosqaartworks]

I wear pentagrams (both ways), too :) For me they represent magic: for me one point up equals white magic and two points up equal black magic. And now as for black magic: it doesn't necessarily mean something bad either. It can also mean to protect someone by using brutal force on the aggressor or his/her weapon, so it can no longer harm anyone at least for the moment (white magic would be protecting while using a shield or something similar).

[@lilachris]

+Riosqa Artworks thank you for this addition! 😊

[@riosqaartworks]

No problem :)

[@mjag2834]

+Angel of Death White Magick = Technology and Communications. Light Magick = Wizardry and the Stars, Astrology, the Zodiac, a lost art and a falsehood.

[@drummerboyarnold3174]

@riosqa does the up side down bring material wealth not like much money but just asking while wearing the pentacle in both ways

[@googlege7999]

God loves you , )

[@macabremom7790]

I think that goths tend to like wearing these sorts of symbols as a way to challenge people's perceptions and beliefs on different subjects. I think it's meant to be thought provoking and I'm sure for some they just like to get a rise out of people. There's plenty of non-goths who enjoy that as well.

[@lilachris]

+MacabreMom sure! As I said, I think it's good to stir people up a bit and get them asking questions about the things they don't know!

[@drummerboyarnold3174]

😅😅😅 yes...and people will hate it

[@cavebeastdemon3631]

I am sixty years old. In my younger years I favored the “Biker Culture” because it was rebellious and tough. I have also always considered myself an artist. As I got older I moved away from rebellion for a while and started raising a family. When members of the “establishment” ruined all of that, I decided to return to my biker past. However, hard-core bikers are too violent and cruel, so I decided to look to gothic culture to combine with my biker persona in order to separate myself. My biker side is my defensive side and my gothic side is my thoughtful side, while both are counter-culture / anti-establishment. I try hard to make both sides as legit as possible while not really being a true member of either. Thank you for helping me understand my gothic side better.

[@gbg8853]

Mom : that's satanic Me : noooooo for the 3,562 times no it's not

[@howieewalt1322]

Actually same tho. Was super hyped about getting an inverted crescent pentagram and my mom shit all over it. Weak

[@RetroDeathReviews666]

SAME. Also the inverted cross.

[@Кира-м2у3п]

Actually the normal pentagram is for protection and inverted pentagram is for summoning demon like lucifer and baphomet

[@incorruptibleword4513]

Inverted pentagram is the satanist logo look it up. Star pointed up seems to be the original spirit and 4 elements pentagram.

[@donpoco]

We do use pentagrams in demonolatry.

[@Gauntlet1985]

Great video! Very informative... At the end of the day... As a Born Again Christian I believe symbols are simply what that individual makes it be for them. If a person takes a cross... One person wears the cross right side up.... Another wears it upside down... Does this change the symbol itself? No.... The same symbol only a statement that the wearer decides it's meaning yet the symbol itself does not determine the heart of the wearer. I do not see pentagrams or pentacles as being evil at all. It is a neutral symbol... Natural device if you will.... Just as a Ouija Board is a neutral device... It is not good nor evil.... The actions and intent of each individual will determine much. I personally wear a clear quartz crystal that lives around my neck much of the time. Many church Christians frown upon these things.... I love Jesus... Yet belong to no church building since I never fit into that mold. Christ is in my heart, not stuffed away in a building on Sunday.... God knows my heart for wearing my Crystal.... I also don't judge those who choose to wear pentagrams... I would much rather talk to a person and learn of their heart rather then form a judgment based off how they dress or appear.

[@marleneb286]

Well said,it's refreshing to read on how open minded u are.

[@Tabby5899]

My thoughts exactly. Just because I think the upside down pentagram looks beautiful, it doesn't mean I'm worshipping Satan by wanting to have one around my neck. I'm still going to be a Christian regardless. Besides, anything that isn't Christian is not necessarily "evil," just different that's all. Those who say that the symbol is evil because satanists use it are implying that satanists are evil and that's just really rude.

[@jamesbb716]

Fun fact, the inverted cross is the cross of St.Peter. When he was crucified he begged that he would be crucified upside-down as he didnt want to be crucified the same way as Jesus. An act of reverence if you will. More Christians should wear the inverted cross, it is an original Christian symbol afterall.

[@purplegemcrazyroyal5247]

jimbo meh - Let's be honest! The upside down cross is a satanic symbol! It's used by satanists. A devout, Bible believing, practising Christian, WILL NOT wear an upside cross or a pentagram. For a christian to believe that 'symbols' are neutral is niave at best!

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

@@purplegemcrazyroyal5247 To reject your own faith's ancient symbols that were used by the faithful for hundreds of years because a small group of people you dislike also decided to use them is naive at best. You've basically just accused a literal saint of not of not being a devout Christian. It's like deciding not to eat carrots because a guy that punched you one time eats carrots, and then accusing everyone else who eats carrots of secretely conspiring to punch you...

[@Rose_Macabre]

I wear it because it is a symbol of the 5 elements, the goddess Venus, and protection. We are all made of star dust, so for me, star symbols always give the connotation of mysticism and "connection to the universe". Also, I happen to love the balanced geometry of stars - they look pretty! Personally, I do identify as an atheist Satanist, but not a LaVeyan, so I also like the symbolism of the star as a goat's head, representing the connection of both our cosmic origins (our bodies are made of starstuff) and the animal nature of humanity. I also like the star with one point up, as a symbol of humanity (as it has the same geometry as a human body, with arms and legs outsretched.) . The pentagram is such a complex symbol, and I find it really interesting how it means such different things to different people.

[@lilachris]

+October Rose thank you for the additional information! I forgot to mention the human-body-cosmos connection due to my massive pile of unordered notes... so that meaning also originates in satanist belief?

[@abaddonthedestroyerreal4455]

liars

[@simondesanta5774]

October Rose I identify as a attack helicopter whom worships transsexual toasters

[@llllllllllllllIIlIllIIllIIIIll]

October Rose your going to hell, repent

[@batsywatsy7496]

i wear pentagrams/pentacles as a sign as the elements!! nothing evil 💞 then again i am Wiccan hahaha and i loved the video, very informative c: i think a lot of ppl should see this bc one gets tired of being called "WOW YOU SATANIST!!!!!!" most of the time THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO! ALSO I LOVE YOUUUU 💞

[@lilachris]

+Tiana Karina thank you very much! Yes I feel that many people think very one dimensional when it comes to symbols in general. Rarely any symbol has only got one single meaning. The satanist meaning of course is the most recent one, and its also a topic that many people are concerned about, so naturally it gets stuck in people's heads. But even then, people are also not at all informed about satanism...

[@hminga6509]

The Pentagram meanings you said are clear and are also enlightenment.Thank you for this wonderful definitions.

[@lilachris]

You're welcome!

[@mistyghosts9941]

I felt it important to mention that even if the pentagram is a symbol for LaVeyan Satanism, LaVeyan Satanism actually has nothing to do with Satan and is more like an embellished form of atheism. So the pentagram STILL isn't satanic or evil by any means. On a side note, thank you for making these excellent, informative videos. I feel a lot of people need to know this.

[@lilachris]

Misty Ghosts thank you! I felt I was unfair about Satanism when I watched the video after the upload, but then, until now, no Satanist has said anything about it either. It's just the most frustrating thing about this all, that people immediately assume "SATAN" when they see the pentagram. This is why I might sound a bit resentful towards Satanism in general here, more because the people also generalise it. Yeah but good point, maybe someone should do a video explaining satanism, paganism and wicca, because so many people have misconceptions about those regarding the goth subculture...

[@mistyghosts9941]

There's actually quite a few of those I believe... I think Cannibal Cat does a good video explaining LeVayan Satanism. And YES! It is annoying how people just assume devil/evil/witchcraft/demons as soon as they see a pentacle or pentagram. The right information is out there if they will just look it up.

[@mjag2834]

I remember how sensationalist 'Satanism' used to be during the 80's, 80''s. It was Demonism if anything.

[@thevikingwanderer2675]

I'm laughing, as I'm Norse, and Norsemen are more understood and more widely accepted, and that you guys have to explain yourselves STILL! XD XD

[@jamarmartin884]

satan isnt even real, its an energy, we are christ and satan, capable of good and bad, we are to master the lesser nature of ourselves and go beyond that and step into the divine. That is the self alchemy, the inner transformation, to raise up our nature. but even still satan isnt necassirly bad because other than the lesser nature it represents the subconscious mind aka the underworld. The bible story jesus dies goes to hell takes the keys from hell and is reborn. that is what we must do.

[@HCKTrent]

This is pretty good, and covers a lot of bases. As a pagan, I personally use the pentagram both upright and inverted, as representative of the elements. The upright pentagram having the single point of 'spirit' at the top above the earthly elements to represent 'Ascending from Matter', and the inverted pentagram with the single point of 'spirit' at the bottom underneath the earthly elements to represent 'Descending into Matter'. 'Ascending from Matter' (the upright pentagram) to me as symbolic of a Right Hand Path belief system (Ascending to the divine, leaving behind earthly ways, becoming closer to god/the gods) and 'Descending into Matter' (the inverted pentagram) symbolic of a Left Hand Path belief system, and bringing the divine into/closer to yourself/self deification. I love how it can have different special significance from person to person though, and I love it's different uses throughout history :)

[@lilachris]

+Industrial Strength thank you very much for this detailed explanation 😊 I used to wear the upright pentagram to symbolise that the spirit stands above the earthly elements and the inverted pentagram to symbolise the reverse, so as to protest against how the world is greedy and materialistic. But this description sounds much more thought through! Is that a common pagan belief?

[@HCKTrent]

lilachris In honesty, i am not sure if its a common pagan belief- i have met other pagans who think/understand the same and i have read it a few places (though I can never remember where), but it is not something i have come across very often. I'm always looking for other sources on this though. One thing i like about the 'Ascending from Matter/Descending into Matter' interpretation, is that it aknowledges and stays quite true to other uses of the pentagram in other beleif systems. such as the upright pentagram in its uses in various belief systems that can be considered 'Right Hand Paths' such as wicca, and perhaps even christianity, as a symbol of ascension/enlightenment, and the inverted pentagram's use in satanism, (and even second degree wicca) as a symbol of bringing the spirit/divine into ones self as characteristic of various Left Hand Path beleif systems, where the focus is is toward the betterment of the self.

[@lilachris]

I think you are right that many of these interpretations are quite similar, although they appear in completely different contexts. That seems to give the symbol a lot of power. I'd like to use this interpretation of ascending/descending, because it seems to fit very well with what I've thought before, but I will have to look up where it's from eventually. There is so much more to discuss in this topic! I haven't even looked at many of the places it's used in. But generally, I feel with the discussion in the comments, we get much closer to covering it all :) thank you!

[@mjag2834]

A fallacy. The right hand path of paganism failed to achieve or attain Godhead, brute force wont ever beat brains, the Left hand path is the annihilation of ones whole self, its suicide.

[@qwistie21]

I've shied away from wearing the pentacle because I've never been sure what it means but this video has helped clarify its meanings. Very interesting. Thank you! I'm really enjoying this series 😊

[@lilachris]

+Qwistie I'm glad I could help! Thank you!

[@kayleighfoster2516]

A pentagram is the 5 pointed star with one point up, the pentacle is the same thing within a circle. The name is a mixture of pentagram and circle, making pentacle...

[@daisygrey4573]

I am a witch who uses the magic in a good way and we use the pentagram as in the 5 elements so fire, water, earth, air and spirit. People used to think that witches where from the devil and shit even if the witches where using their magic in a good way. That's probably why at this time people still think that pentagrams are evil and from the devil.

[@pronix9724]

Can you help me ? From which side should I start drawing the inverted banishing or invoking pentagram for each of the elements fire, water, air, earth.

[@jerushahstines8907]

I have the goddess pentagram tattooed on my chest. It represents the power of the goddess and empowerment of women.

[@lilachris]

+Jerushah Stines You find these a lot when searching for pentagram jewelry on etsy or anywhere really. This is a pagan belief right?

[@jerushahstines8907]

lilachris yes, it is a pagan belief. At least for those of us who work with positive energies.

[@NocturnalBlaze]

As I am both interested in Wicca/paganism and Satanism, I've found this really informative and well put together. There are many misconceptions around this symbol, but, in the end, it is just something powerful and positive, a sign for elements and connection with the universe. So happy that you are helping spreading more knowledge and consciousness around these topics!! 😊

[@lilachris]

+Nocturnal Blaze thank you very much 😊 I hope to bash some prejudices in the world... feel free to share this and help me spread the word!

[@juanespinoza2521]

Angel of Death there are many gods in the universe. Hell isn’t real, only your suffering from your negative past experiences is YOUR “hell”. Plus, anyone who “sins” till they die are simply reincarnated to re-learn their karmic lesson. You keep on reincarnating if you don’t learn your lesson. Why? Because there is no “computer programmer” to this vast infinite universe that controls the destiny of life. The only forces that dictate nature and humans throughout many universes, is LOVE, or HATE. POSITIVE, or NEGATIVE. YIN and YANG. It’s the force of duality. The whole point of inverted pentagrams basically symbolizes looking inward of the self to conquer your demons, your monsters, your fears, so that you may live in harmony within yourself and within the world you live in. “Heaven” is just a term to describe moving into higher dimensional realities because that’s really where your soul goes if you’ve lived your life consciously aware of balancing your “sins” and good deeds. If opposite, you just reincarnate. I feel bad you live your life in constant fear with that mindset. Set yourself free bro.

[@patrickmcguire8091]

@USA POWER HONOR DOMINATION way to spread negativity like all christians like your self do

[@crystalhathaway6038]

I have always had a special attraction to the star shape anything that has to do with the star is beautiful thank you for making this video 💜💙💜💙

[@lilachris]

+Crystal Hathaway true, the mere shape of it is attractive in many ways. One paper said that it was because of the special geometrical form that we are naturally drawn to it.

[@mjag2834]

+lilachris Like Moths to a light, or flame.

[@mariballico7463]

Loving this series on symbols 💚

[@lilachris]

+Mari Ballico thanks 😊

[@RnR-Rebel]

Very nice presentation! As a Witch for over 45 years I was taught the "pentacle" was a five pointed star within ha circle (the circle representing the cycles of birth, life, death, etc...), "pentagram" just the five pointed star (I've studied many different traditions, am an Elder and Third degree in Wicca - too much dogma for me - and all trads said the same). The right side up pentacle or pentagram, represented either the Goddess, the feminine within each of us, or simply man in general. The inverted pentacle or pentagram represented the God or the masculine within each of us ( most Wiccan trads taking it to mean the "Horned God") and your aim was to integrate both feminine and masculine and both light and dark to become whole. Denying one side creates imbalance, which is where I start having trouble with some sects of Wicca. I am a Witch, I do my own thing and expect no one to do the same (nor require it), I'm spiritual, not religious. I accept all, and expect the same respect. That was the short version! I could go on and on how people have perverted a symbol to represent evil, but you already did that! ⚡️Jet

[@lilachris]

Thank you very much for your input! I am happy so many experts gather in my comments to take this discussion further! Definitely the two-sidedness of the symbol is interesting to me, which is in accordance with what others have also already commented.

[@RnR-Rebel]

lilachris You're very welcome! I think the duality of the symbol is what confuses people thinking one is "good", the other "evil". If you want to get technical, there is no good or evil magick (another one of my beefs with many Wiccan trads), it's all neutral. It's what the practitioner does with the magick that changes its meaning to one or the other. For example, hexes. Many won't touch them, think they're "evil". I'm the queen of hexing! Once you get to a certain level of understanding, have that balance i mentioned, you can create positive hexes that actually help. But I suppose that's a whole other subject! ⚡️Jet

[@simondesanta5774]

Rock ‘n’ Roll Glam Queen y is my life so shit

[@lordeleyejah6180]

I always felt the pentecal was female and pentagram was male but I like your response very much

[@suavetony]

YOU GUYS NEED JESUS

[@rasmusolsson7877]

I don't know if anyone said this already, but from my knowledge the difference between pentagram and pentacle is that the pentacle is the symbol that has the star contained within a circle, and the pentagram is the star that has no circle surrounding it.

[@lilachris]

+Mika Olszewski that might be true, I've heard that before. For the origin of the symbol that didn't seem to be a point though. From what I know, the pentacle (with the circle) is what is used in wicca mostly.

[@emmaperez3598]

I actually wear both pentagram and pentacle. I started when I was 10 and during this time in my life I was forced to attend church (not very good memories in that place). I realized very quickly how hypocritical, homophobic and mean the people where at my christian church so I purposefully went out and bought my first pentagram. All I knew was that these people feared this symbol and so I wore it to church so that they would avoid me and it worked. Eventually, I researched what these symbols meant and to this very day I wear these symbols as a sign of rebellion against religious ideals that preach hate and stir fear of damnation into the minds of adults and children. I also wear it as protection and a sign of the spirit and the elements.

[@lilachris]

+Emma Medina it's nice to see how everyone has their own reasons to wear symbols like the pentagram. How could anyone say that it only has one meaning? There are so many!

[@simondesanta5774]

Emma Medina there are wolves dressed in sheep’s clothing not all churches or none at all are accurate what do you expect

[@amyalvira-may7152]

As I understand it, Pentacle is the star without circle, and Pentagram is star with circle touching all 5 points 💜 my favourite symbol to wear, it's very empowering! 🖤

[@lilachris]

Amy Pumpkin that's what I thought too, but then the literature used it without that differentiation. well... it's one of my favourite symbols as well 😊

[@idgaffoyer9703]

I like the cross better

[@AlexHolland123]

I'm not even spiritual nor do I necessarily believe magic is real, but I have a fascination with magic and the idea of witches, so I wear it cause of its connection to magic

[@BloodHuntress]

I wear a Pentacle, or Pentagram.... 1 point up and 2 points down.. I found that it's a much more effective "thing" if you want to call it that, for protection, than wearing a cross... as I'm a Christian Wiccan. It has for me been much better in protection, as I've noticed, when I don't wear mine, especially at night when I sleep, it's as if something keeps shaking me awake.... when I wear mine, I feel more at ease, and also, I noticed that I'm not as prone to spiritual attacks then, as I were before I got it. I use to get attacked spiritually by I don't know what exactly, than when I wear it. I know I sound super crazy when I say it, but I don't dare take it off, as I noticed, "things" one can't normally see with the naked eye, don't dare touch me when I wear it. I know I'm also Clairvoyant, and someone told me that because I'm Clairvoyant that "things" I don't really can't see that well, will always be attracted to me, and that I'll always be an open target...

[@Soviet19171]

Repent...you cannot mix light and darkness. Magic is from satan and his demons...

[@BloodHuntress]

@@Soviet19171 You should follow less like a sheep and start doing your own research... It's comments and behavior like this that causes people to turn away from God... You should just realize that.. Stop attacking and judging what you don't understand and neither want to go out of your way to understand .. Then you people wonder why many turn away from what you are trying to force down their throat.. By doing this, you are not doing what Jesus taught..

[@BloodHuntress]

@@Soviet19171 BTW... God is both Light and Darkness.. It's a dual entity.. And here's something you might not have known, but praying for someone without their consent, is seen actually as a spell... everything around you is "magic" ... Even practicing in the mirror by yourself for a speech or reciting something over and over, is in actual fact a spell... You are practicing magic daily without even knowing it or being aware of it..

[@Soviet19171]

@@BloodHuntress Okay, when it comes to natural forms of light and darkness, yes, God is both because he created both. So if you are referring to the natural forms of those things, yes. However, if you are referring to Light as goodness and Darkness as evil then it's a big no. God is Light in this case and only Light. So, if you don't mind, I'll share with you my perspective on magic vs the divine. It is in the realm of the divine, that being God created, prescribed, and done with his power, where prayer, miracles and so on comes from. The realm of magic, in the Christian perspective, as has been taught by the historical church, has more to do with the powers of the demons and satan as they are things that are done outside the realm of the divine power associated with God, such as spells. As well meaning as someone may be with them, whether it's white magic or black magic. If it is not from God, then it is from the demons. This is more so to do with actual spells, magic conjurations, ect. Looking in the mirror, practicing a speech and so on, as far as I see it, has nothing to do with magic. it's just a physical thing. Listen, I say this because you saying you're a Christian-Wiccan is a bit of an issue with the Christian perspective, as well meaning as you may be. The faith has taught against witchcraft and so on, historically.(Granted I don't believe that persecuting and hurting people who practice it is a good thing.). In my opinion, it's more of a case of, who do you worship? Do you worship the Triune God, follow his commandments and so on which say to avoid magic and witchcraft as has been described? Forgive me if I come off as rude, as I think you are well meaning, and I appreciate these kind of talks. It's just, as far as I have learned, magic and Christian Faith aren't things that can be mixed. Of course you could have a different definition of magic, but I believe i've made a case for the type of magic I am defining here. Thank you for your reply, however.

[@just1girl08]

I love how you explain these symbols by introducing multiple aspects of their meaning, with legit knowledge and credible sources behind every statement you make. Really informative and interesting.

[@lilachris]

well, credible source, I'll have to link the main paper I took most of my information from, so that it's actually visible. But mainly, as I said, everything comes from papers that turn up in the google scholar results for "pentagram"

[@osclax2010]

I've been diving more into the meaning of the different symbols used in goth culture recently, and talking about the pentagram it was inevitable to come across Satanism, also cuz my family is deeply Christian, and me being "the black sheep" of the family started learning about Satanism, and it's sopoused to be a self realization an general acceptance of the world as well as though provoking, which btw when you said that, it really discribed for me what being goth is! And since a relatively young age that I couldn't really easily express ou explain why I was goth or tended to follow these wonderful culture! If I'm not really correct on some thing just tell me I'm here to learn!

[@drummerboyarnold3174]

@Os you ain't alone am a black sheep learning about all this symbols

[@MelindaGreen13]

This was nice to learn: the pentagram/pentacle was a symbol to ward of evil. I find it slightly ironic that it was even so in the Christian church at one point, but that I sometimes find that the zealots of that religion are whining about goths wearing it in the present time. I personally don't wear pentagrams/pentacles on my clothing, because it can be interpreted as a religious symbol of the Wiccan religion. I promised myself to never wear religious symbolism anywhere on my clothing. Basically, it's because I don't want to offend anyone's religion by accident. I mean, people jump to conclusions (me included). If someone I actually care about assumes that I'm wearing a pentagram to be sacreligious, they might break off all contact with me over that assumption... Without asking me why I wear it or starting a discussion about it with me, of course. Now I think that's cowardly, and I'm usually sort of glad that they're gone afterwards. That's not the type of person I want in my social circle anyway. But I can't say that situations like that leave me completely unshaken. I can't really be arsed to care about random strangers harassing me over it. I usually think 'Don't you have better things to do than freak out over what a complete stranger is wearing?' But in the area where I live, some of them can get really creepy. Following you while yelling at you and stuff, throwing empty energy drink cans at you, etc. I say no thank you to situations like that. I've already went through some traumatic events during my school days, that still mess with my sense of safety 7 years later. I'm not going to purposefully cause anxiety and panic attacks in myself by unintentionally making myself a target to creeps like that. So really, I'd just prefer to avoid all of that nastiness, and just leave the wearing of religious symbols to the people with more backbone than me. xD

[@lilachris]

Melanie Adrianus Yes of course that is very ironic! I agree! and of course you have every right to choose not to wear certain symbols. If you just don't feel comfortable with a pentagram around your neck, then it wouldn't give you any magical protection anyway probably. It is always right to do what feels right with those things I believe 😊

[@phoenixascending6501]

I'm a christian goth. I love studying symbols. Yes, the pentagram is a symbol of the five elements but the meaning goes deeper as well. But from my understanding, the way I learned it is that when the star is right side up, the elements of earth(representing fertility/abundance) and fire(representing passion/inspiration) on the legs, water(representing emotion/self-expression) and air(representing reason/communication) are on the arms, and Spirit(God) is at the head. Because God is at the head, all the elements are in balance with God, nature, and the self. But when the Pentagram is inverted, Spirit(God) is at the bottom. The inverted pentacle symbolizes placing the self before God and one's own desires and passions above others. The upright pentacle says "I am God's vessel", while inverted pentacle says "I am my own god".

[@SusannaPowers]

I knew nothing about the Christian history of the pentagram, or how recent its association with Satanism is. I do not own anything with the pentacle on it, aesthetically I don't care for it much, but now that I am more educated on its meaning and origin, I think I would feel comfortable wearing one somewhere.

[@lilachris]

+Susanna Powers 😊 I'm glad this video served it's purpose! And of course it's the same with all clothes or accessories you wear. If you know what it means, go ahead and wear it if you like!

[@khotsozulu5057]

Yes i do use but i used the one that i was shown in a vision to use. Thank you for the knowledge you shared. You have enlightened me.

[@Xynarah]

Thank you for sharing this information, and also to the comments given, very helpful. I've briefly researched the uses of the pentagram and the pentacle (within the circle) so I knew what you were talking about. Yet, not until today watching your presentation did I find a valid meaning for me to wear this symbol. I've loved it for years but am not Jewish, Wiccan, Christian or Satanist. I want to have relevance if I wear symbols. I'm a pantheist and after listening again, I have finally clicked. My connection to the elements, the power of the mind, the connection to the cosmos and the overall connectedness I feel to our natural world and universe is my personal take on the meaning of this symbol. Thank you.

[@lilachris]

yes, it has so much meaningful weight to it! I'm glad you found this useful :)

[@5disguised]

To me The inverted pentagram means earth and nature and the forests 🌳 :)

[@juless3568]

The pentagram represents our pagan past,that is why I respect the pentagram. The inverted pentagran should not be seen or used for evil purposes. Satan is not an evil charecter.

[@ellex8597]

i actually wear this for the 5 elements bc for me they represent the body and spirit of a person and his/her relation to the nature that makes us.Like....you're coming from nature and there you will rest in peace (for like when you die) Yeah,literally pretty naturalistic thing haha i didnt know about the christianity thing (i think im gonna use it with my really religious friends lol) but i knew about the elements thing and the wicca and the satanic one and i think that the inverted one could be use just for the satanic belief bc it fits the goat and those meanings...idk this was cool and i love how you talk and you're adorable also...could you be my religion/history teacher?? like srsly i've never learnt that much about religion to be honest hahah

[@bojandjordjic9871]

I listen rock and metal and I always wear pentagram.I so much love it. PS You are so beautiful

[@irisolivas2199]

As a witch it gets me annoyed when people think the pentacle/ pentagram is evil or something else

[@mariamartins3100]

I am not goth but I do like some things of the subculture. Thank you for your symbols series, it made me subscribe. And congratulations on the opening of your shop.

[@lilachris]

Thanks for subscribing! 🖤🖤🖤 I'm happy you like the videos!

[@yoseflopez5141]

I've been looking specifically for a pentagram necklace that looks just like that.....where you get that?

[@lizismis]

As a modern satanist I disagree on ur view on Anton sanders lavay! He did not in fact made it a symbol for evil, he made it a symbol of stupidity, that ignorant people will see it as evil while others sees it as his words of Satan, not as a god but as a consent, other words atheism! In another concept! But I do agree that the one point up is the five elements

[@lilachris]

+LizIsMis I'm glad to get some feedback from people who are more knowledgeable about Satanism!

[@mjag2834]

+lilachris The Order of the Golden Dawnstar is Devil Worship, crime and homelessness (addiction/ruination). Fools Gold. The Order of the Rosy Cross (Rosicrucianism), is a Synagogue of Satan and his 'Deep Secrets', whose followers are sworn to secrecy.

[@jam9607]

the pentacle is the star with one point faced up, and that point represents spirit/soul. the other points represent the elements we are made of (earth, fire, water, etc). the pentagram is the star with one point faced down which is a satanic (inverted) pentagram. the circle around one or the other star represents the witches circle that keeps bad spirits out (for the pentacle) and it keeps the bad spirits inside (for the pentagram)

[@Charline-Venefica]

I wear one, for quite personal reasons : a loved one who passed away years ago, consecrated my pentacle ring, for protection. And whatever the meaning I don't want to ever take it off, and wouldn't try to, even if I was to live another lifestyle, and dress in a more "average" way.

[@lilachris]

That sounds very lovely. So good to have some little treasure of that person with you at all times.

[@AlexV-nq7zh]

I am a newly adventurous spiritual person and have been looking into all sorts of origins of spiritual healing such as the benefits of burning different herbs such as sages as well as effects of crystals and gems so i have only found credible evidence for the protective and spiritual use of the pentagram but after ordering shoes with a two point pentagram zipper my sister brought up that she thought the two point pentagram was for devil worship so one youtube search and i came across your video which i love as it is short straight and to the point and really uses historical information from multiple sources not just one way one group used it that you so much for the lesson i look forward to wearing pentagrams with full confidence as to why i wear them 👍🏾🙈🙉🙊

[@TrevorParkerTheKiltedGoth]

Was used in Ancient Israel and was a sign of the coming Christ. It was inverted and noting to do with satan. It was called The Morning Star. Great video and well researched 😊👍🏼

[@lilachris]

+The Kilted Goth thank you!

[@valumen]

The Kilted Goth The Jews are still waiting for the Messiah to come as they don't believe that Christ was the real one. Do you happen to know if they still use the pentacle as that sign? I don't think so, but then I don't know any Jewish people, so I might be wrong...

[@TrevorParkerTheKiltedGoth]

valumen To be honest I don't know. I will certainly try and find out . Lots of people mistake it for the star of David . Im wondering if that stR is a twist on the pentagram. And Christ is a descendant of David. It was prophesied that in the last days Jews would turn to Christ as the messiah . Going through London a few years back I passed a big building called Jews for Christ.. it it coming to pass .

[@TrevorParkerTheKiltedGoth]

Judaism The pentagram was the official seal of the city of Jerusalem during the period of 300-150 B.C.E. Due to the similarity of the star shapes, it is occasionally confused with the Star of David by those unfamiliar with the symbols. In the Jewish kabbalistic tradition, the pentagram represents justice, mercy, wisdom, understanding, and transcendent splendor. So a possibility thats how its viewed now.

[@valumen]

The Kilted Goth Thank you so much! That is very interesting to me (and most likely not only to me ;-)). I know that quite a number of Jewish people have acknowledged Christ as their savior, but the majority is still... well, anticipating, I guess. But as God's own people God will know how to deal with them. ;-) I find it so special how many of us (I do include myself here) need to express ourselves through symbols and how the same symbol can have different meanings to different people- so we can misunderstand each other not by language only. Yay.

[@wherehaveallthetacosgone3780]

Great video! I have some family members who need to watch this. Crazy how people freak out over things they're not even informed about!

[@lilachris]

+wherehaveallthetacosgone you're welcome to share this with everyone who needs to see it 😉 I'm intending to show my family as well, although they're not so good at English...

[@wherehaveallthetacosgone3780]

lilachris I'd also love to hear what you have to say about the crescent moon symbol. (Or moons in general). Does it have a meaning other than aesthetic appeal? I've seen it being turned so that the points of the crescent are either up or down, does that change the meaning?

[@lilachris]

thank you for that suggestion! I'll definitely put it on the list! :)

[@LouValcourt]

Great video. I wear the pentacle and have explained it to many people over the years.

[@lilachris]

Hopefully, there will be less and less prejudices and missunderstandings in the world in some distant future ;)

[@oliviawallace6167]

A pentagram is your ring a star with in a circle a pentacle is your necklace a star with no circle but is in a never ending Celtic knot way if not a plain give pointed star :) happy to help clear it up

[@oliviawallace6167]

As well as being Wiccan myself a one point faceing up is for invoking the universes energy or engery in general to the wearer as a introverted a star with two points up is to to evoking energy

[@oliviawallace6167]

Hope all this helps ...I am goth as well as can agree on your knowledge of your videos on your symbols ...

[@Mildon44]

I know this is late, but LaVey (and Satanism) uses the upside-down pentagram to symbolise carnality and a rejection of the spiritual (the upwards pentagram being spiritual). He got the idea from the cover of a 1964 book "a Pictoral history of Magic and the Supernatural" which details both versions of the pentagram under the "Satanic Sciences" area of the book. Also good to note that the Church of Satan (and Satanism) isn't devil worship. So I wear the symbol for 2 reasons. 1 - because It's a nice symbol, and 2- because it's the official symbol of my religion and the store I got it from (that licenses the trademarked Church of Satan symbol) is high quality and well-made

[@KreeZafi]

Very nice video, I really appreciate this series and the research that clearly went into it! :D I personally identify strongly with the ideas of LaVeyan Satanism, although I consider it a little more of a philosophy than a religion and generally call myself an atheist rather than a Satanist just to avoid the misunderstandings (I certainly don't have time to give a lengthy explanation of what LaVeyan Satanism is every darn time just to make people understand I'm not a devil worshiper). Because of this, the pentagram jewelry I own are all inverted - yes, I know that the inverted pentagram is not in itself a symbol of the Church of Satan, but I wear it that way because it resembles their symbol, the Sigil of Baphomet (I also have a necklace with that particular symbol), and I can get behind the sort of elemental balance type meaning as well, which I think it can symbolize whether it's inverted or not so I just choose the inverted one to kind of distinguish it from the Wiccan/pagan one which is usually one-point-up.

[@lilachris]

KreeZafi I hope you didn't think I was insulting the Church of Satan in general, it's just the most annoying thing that people always jump to that one conclusion when they see you. And of course what I meant to say is that every symbol has many different meanings and everyone wears it for different reasons.

[@barvicbirx]

Great video! I love how you refrence everything. I wear a "normal" pentagram because it was on sale and I lost my mind. Never thought I would see it in a store in my small town. I also follow Harmony Nice, so that was cool that you mentioned her. Thumbs up!

[@lilachris]

haha what do you mean you lost your mind? :'D Thank you very much!

[@barvicbirx]

I got so happy I just had to buy it xD I never thought I'd have the chance to buy it

[@hafsahm8401]

this was really cool and informative I'm a Muslim goth so being able to properly justify wearing this is a giant help thanks! also could you do the leviathan cross next?

[@lilachris]

+misaki mei thank you! I'm glad you find it helpful! Yes, I'll take that into the suggestions!

[@damagelethal7171]

I think you are on the wrong side of the perspective here gothism is 4 level than 4 level of satanism it's not some out fit or fashion, there are subjects you don't want to envolve in trust me.

[@imranumrani2297]

hey there, I'm a Muslim who's exploring Gothic subculture and I'm finding it fascinating so far.. it's nice to know that Muslim Goths do exist.. you're probably the first one I've ever known/heard of.

[@faizanumama9583]

USA POWER HONOR DOMINATION okay you just got it all wrong. Your christian ass doesn’t know anything about Islam. Listen, we don’t worship Muhammad, we worship Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah who has helped Allah spread the religion and according to our beliefs, Isa (Jesus) was sent to Earth to do the same thing as Muhammad but Christians got it wrong and thought he was the son of God. And idk for what but according to OUR beliefs, Isa (Jesus) did not die yet. He is currently living in heaven and will come out in the last day when Dajjal (illuminati/ satan) will come out and Isa will fight the Satan. And Muhammad married Khadija, who was not 9. Thank you. And he never molested little girls. I never heard christians or other religions say that! Which world are you in??

[@simondesanta5774]

mei i u that’s next level

[@5050TM]

Great video and very informative. I personally only use the upright pentagram.

[@lilachris]

+Lady Autumn thank you!

[@kalebharris80s]

The four elements having control over us and free thought is why I wear a pentagram 👍🏽

[@lilachris]

cool :) me too!

[@chrissenzatimore3769]

This is a great video with a lot of detailed information. Very good series on your channel - I look forward to the next episode. Your fan in the U.S. - C.S.

[@lilachris]

+Chris Senzatimore thank you very much 😊

[@JamesDeal1982]

I can't pay attention. She's far too good looking. I came her for more info on the Tetragrammaton but I've succumbed to beauty.... lol

[@lilachris]

James Deal Aaww 😂 you can, you know, watch the video again and just look somewhere else while listening to my explanations 😉

[@JamesDeal1982]

lilachris I did just that.

[@gengaraproved8435]

I can tell about Pythagoras, that he's also in the name of a maths formula where you can calculate the length of the sides of a triangle with, if you know the length of two sides of the triangle already.

[@gengaraproved8435]

Thanks for the video, by the way.

[@pronix9724]

Can you help answer the question below? If you know anything about this topic, please reply or make a video about it. Thank you for adding subtitles to your videos. From which side should you start drawing an inverted pentagram expelling or calling for the elements of fire, water, air, earth.

[@markockwell]

I proudly wear the Pentagram (Pentacle) and to me it represents the 5 elements encased in a protective circle that represents the whole.... I am also a Wiccan so for the space of a year I wore an inverted Pentagram to represent the second level - I now wear one that is upright again with a triangle on the top (above it) to represent the Third level of training.... and NO I don't believe in the Christian made Devil.

[@stachelbeere91]

sehr cool =) so viel hab ich mich damit noch garnicht beschäftigt, ich wusste nur dass es ein schutzsymbol im Mittelalter war =) die meisten Leute sind heutzutage halt echt unwissend und denken dann einfach dass es ein böses Symbol ist

[@lilachris]

+stachelbeere91 Darum ist es gut mal so ein Video zu machen 😉 kann man auch prima Freunden und Bekannten weiterleiten!

[@bat_mantic6782]

I found this to be extremely helpful! I was searching for this info and just so happened to find it on your birthday!

[@sparklyshadow17supernatura30]

By the way, pentagrams are fun to draw...Nobody has ever reallly liked me as a normal so when I get older I want to be just like you girl! Plus it's kinda fun to use them on people who have the wrong idea about them... I only do it to the assholes...

[@adityabhattacharya4044]

I also wear a pentagram with an inverted cross.... For me it represents the 5 elements and the middle section of the pentagram represents our body and the inverted cross for me represents the removal of religious blindfolds over spirituality..... As in Hindu teachings our utmost goal is to awaken spiritually weather you are a true believer of god or an atheist till the time your objective is clear.... Your form is irrelevant.... So for me this whole symbol represents open mind for spirituality..... M a Hindu....

[@KingTairun]

great eye opening take on symbols and provoking the society I think I might get a provoking symbol. any suggestions?

[@Jhihmoac]

I myself favor a ten pointed pentagram/pentacle, signifying the upwards pentagram as purification and enlightenment, and the downwards pentacle as the pitfalls of life that make us stronger because we must get through them...To fall is NOT an option! ...The 10 Point also represents the Ten Commandments, and is symbolic of the fact that for even the sake of 10 righteous individuals, God will not destroy cities as he once did with Sodom and Gomorrah!

[@Tony_TheAncientWorldReimagined]

it was never Pythagorus it was Ptah-Horus The Egyptian,

[@emilyschmidt4106]

I actually DID think that the pentagram is only a satanic symbol and I always wondered why it is so represented in the goth community. I love your videos, they are so helpful for a baby bat like me 🥰🖤

[@MrKuklo75]

I were an inverted pentagram with a goat's head because it represents To me, some of the similar things that you talked about in your video, and I just want to say I think you're cute

[@The_Blackjay]

Very informative video! Personally I wear an inverted pentagram because I'm a Satanist, but I have many Pagan and Wiccan friends who wear pentacles as well.

[@lilachris]

+Sarah Jay it's good to see that so far, everyone I've spoken to who wears it acknowledges the use of the pentagram in other contexts too 😊👍 it's just good to be aware of its history

[@simondesanta5774]

Sarah Albrecht so do you just do it for fun or what?

[@ghostbombl8034]

I dress like any other t-shirt guy that never takes mine off and I have on display so the sun and earth energy keeps it charge. It reminds how powerful and beautiful nature's power and protection is.It,reminds how the 5 elements of life keeps earth and life sustained with perfect balance of the element with protecting circle making it a pentacle.

[@daisygrey4573]

I read that a pentagram is the the sing it self and a pentacle is an object in the form of a pentagram

[@SabbatarianSundayer.]

I have 2 pentagram tattoos; among Christian tattoos. Because I have 2 pentagram tattoos; it was some time previously, that I had; or was wearing a pentagram necklace. The pentagram necklace; was the idea of using satan; to help me witness for Jesus Christ. Was this a good idea; or...?

[@PleatherGirl]

The pentagram is the symbol most associated with witchcraft. However, the pentagram originally had nothing to do with witchcraft and has been associated with many things over the millenia. A pentagram has no circle around it and is a symbol that was created in Greece over 8,000 years ago and had an astrological connection. It is strongly associated with Venus. An encircled pentagram (sometimes called a pentacle) with one point up is what is associated with witchcraft. Wiccans associate each point with one of the four elements with the top point representing "Spirit". An encircled pentagram with one point down is called The Sigil of Baphomet as titled by The Church of Satan. I think either one looks cool, but like you said in your first symbol video, if you are going to own anything with symbols and wear symbols, you should know what they really mean. I can't take Wiccans seriously for a number of reasons. A big one is the fact that they decided to make the pentagram an important part of their practice but they assigned their own meaning to it. This is wrong. Wicca is only 64+ years old. The pentagram has been around for several millenia.

[@gonfreecess9376]

So... it's not evil it's good? I dont want to bring evil stuff near me so I want to to make sure so is it the one with a circle good and the one without a circle bad? I'm stilla little confused pls tell me

[@TheSatanist13]

Inverted Pentagram uses the Hebridean Sheep as the symbol. To be a Satanist you must believe in yourself, not Satan or anything else. Great philosophy!

[@tarrasams7423]

i love all of you're videos you're amazing and beautiful thank you for all of you're videos keep bringing them

[@lilachris]

+Tarra Sams thank you so much ♡

[@TheRockLoverTrueTV]

The inverted pentagram is not evil, but it's wrong because it symbolises a human with the head and spirit on the floor, it means a society who has not developed its consciousness and lives in ignorance, a society that is dominated by the basic instincts.

[@lilachris]

+Therocklover1978 yes I've heard about that meaning too. I just couldn't find where it comes from. Do you know who or which religion did use it as that? It kind of ties in with the ordered cosmos theory though. I've read that someone saw the pentacle as a symbolic human who then stands for the whole of the universe. If it's an inverted pentagram, the order of the universe is upside down.

[@TheRockLoverTrueTV]

Hi, Lila, I heard that from a man called Mark Passio, he said he was a priest on the Anton Lavey's Church of Satan, He also said that satanists rule the world through intitutions (Governments and religions) and they want to drive us away from the natural law, so we can not evolve, but they know, follow and respect the natural law, that's why they use the inverted pentragram on us; that is Mark Passio's theory, he has many interesting videos on his channel about satanism, occutisim and government.

[@Ki7689]

Basic instincts = ?...evil (murder, rape etc)

[@Amy_the_Lizard]

To my great amusement, a goth friend of mine who has a LOT of pentagram/pentacle jewelry and clothes periodically gets accused of be evil or a satanist by random hyper-conservative old ladies (she lives in Kansas, so there's a decent number of biblethumpers.) Why is this so funny? She's evangelist. She likes pentagrams because of their historical usage as a way of warding off demons and evil spirits. (She's also very interested in the occult - and yes, she is very, very different from most evangelists, and spends a decent amount of her time being exasperated by hyper conservative Christians in general - especially other evangelists. It's part of why I get along with her.)

[@koffinkiss]

The difference between a pentagram and a pentacle is that a pentacle has a circle around it

[@nick0lasj0nes73]

Which one does Baphomet use?

[@texca67]

I loved Pentagram for long period of time and protection from head to toe as 5 elements dots ! I feel so great ! And at the back of my neck tattoo with infinity symbol! Now I'm thinking to my wrist 🤔 but a bit confused if the pointed spirit should be up or down ! I want to make it sure the right position for protection not inverted one ! Please, kindly answer if it is up to all my fingers before I get one tattoo permanently, thanks

[@pixelmoon9101]

A pentacle is the five point star. A pentagram is the star with the circle

[@AaIsForAaliyas]

I'm no brown noser... But you're extremely beautiful and that style suits you. I don't like giving compliments but, I must give credit where it is due.

[@opinionatedlibra1934]

I was taught that pentacle was with the circle and pentagram is without the circle. That's all I know for the difference.

[@abnlucky666]

Next do some reaching on baphomet symbol if can lilachris

[@lilachris]

thanks for the suggestion

[@luxbeci2]

Lilachris are you wiches fallen angel démon spirit?

[@sage1467]

You can use the pentacle and pentagram, but the pentacle is a Wiccan or Pagan witch symbol, It's not a goth symbol.

[@unnatigrover3833]

Exactly 😭😭

[@aja08210]

pentacle is the pentagram upright star inside a circle ...however the common person when they see a pentacle they say pentagram although that is incorrect

[@gracieb6370]

if you're here because you're curious what it actually means and it doesn't help when she keeps saying I don't know and it's interchangeable or whatever, here is a video where the person actually knows what it means and The upside down star and the right-side up star are interchangeable one does mean the devil and one does not kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKbPoIRujbuso68

[@lilachris]

Unfortunately, it is not as simple as that. Some things do not have definite answers. Symbols have been used by many different groups of people and can mean a lot of different things, depending on the circumstance.

[@caroles5258]

I wear the pentagram, point upward, as a witch's symbol of the five elements.

[@jessicagluv6627]

I wear the pentacle. It reps to me as north south east west earth fire air and water and a sighn of protection.

[@b.m.muktadir7016]

Why does the edges of pentacle refers to those 4 natural components and 1 spiritual component? It could mean something else like birth,death,blood etc etc. And in inverted pentacle why soul is placed at the bottom?

[@riggsdesigner]

Yassss the 5 elements That’s what I have worn it for 🖤❤️😀

[@lilachris]

nice!

[@michaelm254]

Job 21:11-15 - They send forth their little ones like a flock, and their children dance. They take the timbrel and harp, and rejoice at the sound of the organ. They spend their days in wealth, and in a moment go down to the grave. Therefore they say unto God, Depart from us; for we desire not the knowledge of thy ways. What is the Almighty, that we should serve him? and what profit should we have, if we pray unto him? Bless you

[@troyhayder6986]

The Bush in my back garden... Big Bush by the way... Is covered with repeating sevens and pentagrams...and I mean covered in them... What does it mean???

[@Otoniel-nu1rz]

im getting a pentagram tattoo soon

[@EnergyOM]

Anyone that is interested in the story of the pentagram, should look up the cycle of the planet Venus around the earth or maybe it was about the sun. I am not a astronomy expert, but there are many sources that will show that there is a connection of in context of Sacred Geometry (Geometry that is also FASCINATING to dark haired Hexen that aren’t good at math 😉).

[@ruttokello6222]

Were you good at school?

[@lilachris]

Haha I was good at English, German, Arts, Philosophy and sometimes History, but I sucked at everything else. My bad maths and science grades were almost fatal to my school career 😂😂

[@ruttokello6222]

lilachris haha i am good at languages too but everything else im bad

[@lilachris]

Oh I'm not even good at languages in general, I also had Latin and French and I failed both of those classes haha 😂 I guess I'm good at the "thinking and discussing, reading and writing" subjects 😉

[@ruttokello6222]

lilachris Ooh, okay xD well tbh im only good at english, because on our school systems we only learn English and swedish and i got B from english, E from swedish 😅

[@Mercutiossword]

Pentagram= star Pentacle = star in circle

[@spyderettesproductions5560]

Pentacle is the one with the circle around it, pentagram is with not.

[@adocentyn9028]

Great video - you chose a great topic.

[@lilachris]

Thank you :)

[@calluslestrangers234]

Tolles und informatives video 🖤 Ich mag den "komplett schwarz" look an dir ☺

[@lilachris]

+le strangers Dankeschön 😊