Limited Resources 754 - Modern Horizons 3 Set Review: Rare and Mythic Rare

[@Covenantt666]

Congratulations LSV and Gaby! ❤❤❤

[@narfidy444]

He's getting 2 for 1s in MtG and IRL what an absolute master

[@fpejanovic]

damn 4 kids with twins on the way!

[@CruelValkyrie]

Congrats to LSV and Gaby for the amazing value achieved!!

[@bruinfan05]

Drink every time LSV says “end up in a spot”

[@pablopandolfo8446]

Drunk before they get to white cards.

[@garagavia]

I'd love to end up in a spot

[@davidmacarthur705]

1:22:35 worth noting, it actually can’t miss, you get to see the top 7 before you choose to sacrifice.

[@garagavia]

Wow Luis got the two for one with twins coming! 😮 Congratulations man! ❤️

[@TheAed38]

IMO one card they got wrong is Sylvan Safekeeper. It's incredibly good because it turns all your opponent's removal into sinkholes in the mid to late game. I got a combo going with it and Nadu that was completely ridiculous.

[@indybruining]

The special art for the pitch elementals seems fantastic! Actually ones that i'd be excited about in terms of just the art alone. I love it when the alternative arts actually look like they are meant to evoke (no pun intended) a specific feeling instead of just being different art for the heck of it.

[@Parker2038]

Congrats LSV, I'm also expecting my second kid this november.

[@sahjhan1]

LSV and Gaby storming off I see... empty the cheons!

[@keanureef271]

Crabomination gave me flashbacks. I was the unlucky soul who got his ulamog cast against himself twice in one match at prerelease :(

[@garagavia]

Ouch!

[@alvarosimoes1076]

I got an Emrakul, but only once, at least

[@pintlemounted]

I always wish these came in time for the prerelease

[@buddabudda]

They have a few times.

[@MagicDad]

The commons and uncommons review almost always is!

[@ben_clifford]

Me 2

[@garagavia]

You don't need this, commons and uncommons are way more important

[@ben_clifford]

@@garagavia True enough. But the resources have released rare/mythic videos before the prerelease on occasion, and I find myself feeling more prepared when they do that.

[@HeyApples]

Kaalia is mostly a commander card, but I did have a pool with Angel of the Ruins, Crabomination, and the 7 mana uncommon dragon, along with several of the 4 MV common dragon, which was hilarious. Not super supported in general but it can come together.

[@Silas_MN]

felicidades! my brother in law started with twin boys and hoooly smokes, it is a tough thing but very cool. good luck!

[@ben_clifford]

1:41:46 got me! Commander channels have been talking about Nadu like it's the 2nd coming of Oko, but I wasn't sure how this thing would play in limited. Sounds like it'll slay.

[@fpejanovic]

ive found BG counters to be very strong if you can get some of the lands that add extra counter like the rare black connive land, or the colorless counter swapper - which is actually incredible with the BW gargoyle, you can move the -1/-1 counter onto your opponents creatures.

[@riveradam]

1:22:32 Birthing Ritual I think a low-curve deck can use this pretty well, and it gets better with more creatures in play. If you have lots of 1s and 2s, and a few 3s as curve toppers, you could reliably play a 1 drop on turn 1, upgrade it on turn 2, and then play a 1 and a 2 drop on turn 3. Now you have a 1 and a two 2s, and if any of the top 7 cards are a 2 OR a 3, you can upgrade again. I think to maximize the value you want to be upgrading a 1 into a 2 each turn, because doubling the mana value of a creature is the best possible rate. Maybe in a black-green deck that has ETBs on 2 and 3, and cares about filling graveyards with its 1s. Good fit for Lurrus?

[@chriskeyser391]

I also think people misread that card quite often. You look at the top 7 cards before you choose to sac or not. it's not like you have to make the investment in being down a creature to chance getting another.

[@Pug8]

OMG 🎉🎉🎉🎉 Congrats Gabby and LSV!!!

[@marcozarantonello2180]

congratulations Luis!!!

[@fizzbronson4279]

Volatile Stormdrake is a B+. The card won me a bunch of games on it's own. Just make sure you have some energy and either bounce spells or a way to deal with fliers.

[@vy1585]

Shilgengar also can revive itself as long as you have a board and can keep 3 mana up, so you can just keep it up as defense while you beat them down

[@Binnzy2257]

Regarding Echos of Eternity, the Eldrazi doubler, i had it in a lower rarity chaff deck where i didnt have much card quality. I resolved it 3 times and it managed to edge out games where I probably would have lost to card adv. Its not great but it did the job.

[@garagavia]

One of the coolest things about this set is getting to listen to Marshall and Luis rate our favorite cards from Commander in limited ♥

[@Utubesuxmycock]

Quiet zoomer commander kuk

[@WhammeWhamme]

I got subtlety in one draft. Fun synergy - it's a 4+ mana value creature for the cards that care about that... and yes, being in Eldrazi does make it harder to pitch cast, but that's fine. :)

[@andrewgreig4946]

Congrats LSV!!

[@zacdredge3859]

1:43:25 I think Arna might be the case where Nesting Grounds is relevant; it can move those extra Keyword Counters to make them relevant... 2:02:34 So I'm assuming Marshal meant to say 5 Neutral, Neutral, not Green, here. Not sure the podcast listeners will pick up on that or not.

[@OMGWYATT]

Note about Sorin, the common murder in this set gains a life unless you hit a devoid creature so if you hit a multicolor creature or extort it flips him by itself.

[@HappyZugZwang]

I'm so mad (once again) at WOTC for pricing this set so high. Seems too much fun to draft but i can't support their greed. Btw love you review guys !

[@AB-sw4kb]

same

[@SessionalSalmon]

I played with Ulalek once and it was amazing. I had 2 worn powerstones so casting it on turn was relatively easy. And once it's in play, you run away with the game.

[@DeineKreativeSeite]

I played Dreamtide whale in an eldrazi deck. It was good. Getting to attack twice is enough.

[@Tyrowo]

Wooooo!!! Congrats lsv+gabby

[@michaellogan2780]

So my opinion you really missed on "Echoes of Eternity". Like you I also thought it was unplayable but now after playing with it 3 times, I think its a build around B. Yes 3 colorless is a cost but I usually run 7-8 of the common fetch lands. Also every ramp spell makes colorless so I'm at most sacrificing 1 spawn to play it. You take a big hit the turn you cast it but dominate the game afterwards. Double copying a petrifying meddler, locking down 2 creatures and having 2 reach blockers, you don't die the following turn and usually win the turn after. Writhing Chrysalis is another amazing follow up as you end up with 6 blockers, 2 of which have reach and if you sac the spawns the Chrysalis double trigger making them 10/11's with no other spawns. I strongly recommend anyone drafting Eldrazi to try it. Its powerful and super fun. Double casted a "Breaker of Creation" earlier gained 24 life and attacked the following turn with Annihilator 8. Super fun card

[@joshmc5882]

Amphibian Downpour -> a storm card that rains down frogs!

[@Nokus416]

The reason Laelia triggers off each card you exile during cascade is the game has to check each card one by one to see if it meets the cascade requirement

[@geoffreyshafto3303]

After like 15 drafts gurantee the biggest grade turn around is echoes of eternity. Card says"if you untap you win the game"

[@ublabaah3908]

I had a Kudo modify deck and it didn't work (4-2 finish where I drew Kudo in 5 games). I had an aggroy build with some 1 drop living weapons that turned into 3/3s with Kudo and so on with basically all non removal cards benefitting from Kudo. The problem was that my opponents constantly gained at least as much benefit from the ability as me. Eldrazi decks just went wide with spawns and evey other deck seemed to have tons of cards to benefit from Kudo too. I hope others find more success with it as it was nice to draft with Kudo in mind but I won't be taking him early.

[@bartoffer]

Argent Dais has one great use in the format: a sideboard card to deal with Emrakul.

[@masterfaber1174]

I was at the same prerelease as BDM, can confirm he won very quickly

[@nitrousdave]

Congrats on getting that 2 for 1 sale!

[@spooky_zen]

this draft looks so fun

[@rice7447]

I haven't enjoyed the set so far but that might just be because I've lost to a turn one guide of souls about 7 times in my 3 drafts yesterday. That card makes you lose in like 4 turns if you don't have removal in your opening hand.

[@lepro1337]

Shilgengar is insane with the 0/1 blue uncommon fourdrop that dies into bigger and bigger tokens. Instant sac means they can never mess with the tokens and you get so many Blood tokens from it.

[@ich3730]

Isnt that blood for toughness trigger on angels only?

[@felixeisenmenger1914]

@@ich3730 This guy shilgengars

[@lepro1337]

@@ich3730 You still get one per sac, i agree it may not be the main attraction, considering the 18/18 in stats in tokens alone

[@jonnanino]

I just wanna play it with ophiomancer forever

[@ich3730]

@@lepro1337 the flavor kinda cracks me up on that one too, big demon guy wants to eat high angel cuisine but instead he gets the 3 turn seafood value meal

[@justgrigorthings]

The two-for-one!

[@c_nrad]

I can’t imagine the nightmare of resolving Shadow of the Second Sun in an FNM draft

[@AstaraBrightwing]

Someone on the MH3 design team is clearly a fan of Yugioh. There are several Rares and Mythics that are too similar to iconic Yugioh cards to be a coincidence. Catapult Turtle and Trishula, to name two.

[@MagicDad]

This set is so wild!

[@adrianspiby9969]

Marshall Buttcliff

[@tammyevans6629]

Congrats!!!!

[@ben_clifford]

On a side note, Nadu should have been named Adu, to go along with Oko and Uro

[@cjwauer4730]

I think Flare of Cultivation is like. A c+. Cultivate itself is a fine card but being double green makes it a bit harder to cast. Nothing insane but fine.

[@marceljones7940]

1:23:44 Instant Monk :)

[@jameyroberti1517]

pulled a foil retro ulamog at prerelease made my 0-3 feel better

[@whatdothlife4660]

What about Norin the Wary + Flare of Duplication?

[@indybruining]

Congratz Louis!

[@almogdov]

Somewhere, somehow, someone in a draft played Fury and Copied it with Satya.

[@Kumagoro42]

Did you miss Sowing Mycospawn in this review, or am I missing something about it?

[@peterfischer2039]

Am I the only one that reads that unless your opponent has spot removal, Sorin -6 always puts a lifelink counter. As or checks if you have another white permanent other than the creature -> Sorin and it checks if you have another white permanent from Sorin -> that creature, as if you want to check another outside of Sorin and the creature you would have to template with "and". Am I wrong on that?

[@williamnorthey3228]

The creature isn't necessarily white, that's why 'or' is used. You'll only get the counter if you have a totally separate white permanent

[@GoreDough92]

I really wouldn't say Ripples of Undeath is an F, there is VICTIMIZE in this set. Lowkey an uncommon Mythic right there. 2 mana to have more card selection with the guarantee of always being able to A. Get your bomb back (if it was milled), or B. Get the card you didn't want to mill (aka Victimize). That card's a solid C with a B ceiling imo.

[@davidfarnham5623]

I tried this thing exactly and I still lost to the ripples. Ended up taking out ripples and keeping in the victimize.

[@GoreDough92]

That Linebreaker was fkn nuts, I had Kozilek's Unsealing make me 4 tokens, dropped this turn 5 or so and busted that sht wide open. LEET CARD +5DMG HASTE LETS GOOO

[@jeffwhite8688]

ooh Ulalek you get to pay 2 when you evoke the Nulldrifter right?

[@Kumagoro42]

Yup. Evoke is just an alternative cost.

[@wpease7]

Crabomination is paper Grenzo, lmao. Now imagine if it did it on upkeep too 😅

[@burnsida]

Wold copying Ulalek's ability with something like Rings of Brighthearth cause inifinite copies?

[@jameyroberti1517]

played grist recursion and did the thing every game

[@sparkplugbarrens]

Louis, as you are so hyped for this set, are you going to play it in the pro tour Amsterdam? And is there a possbility to meet both of you there? 😍 Kind Regards from Hamburg! :)

[@felixeisenmenger1914]

LSV mentioned in an early access draft video that he trains for Amsterdam, so seems likely!

[@marceljones7940]

if you listened to the episode you'd know that he will indeed be going to amsterdam

[@felixeisenmenger1914]

​@@marceljones7940 Oh Mr Busy over here, not even watching a teeny tiny 2,5h video first.

[@bobboberson6664]

Nadu was a mistake..... I think we all see that now.

[@mischorman4151]

two for one :o congratulations

[@OtakuTiki]

My pre release deck had Ajani and Sorin in it. Needless to say I won the event lmao

[@erinsloan1871]

wait how is omo an f? don't everything counters on lands at least fix your mana really well?

[@Kumagoro42]

You get one land with an everything counter (unless you keep attacking with a vanilla 1/5). And in order to run 3 colors in this format you don't need to put non-ramping Chromatic Lantern with extra steps into your deck. And there aren't strong incentives to go 5 colors either, MH3 cards are really synergistic, you can't build "5 colors good stuff", you'd just hit cards that don't play well with one another.

[@Moskalus]

lets goooo

[@huntergarrett9673]

sylvan safekeeper is insane. Whatttttt. with spawns it makes removal never exist

[@Sage_6reen]

Phelia wrecked me one game and I curse whatever developer loves their damn corgi so much

[@Kumagoro42]

There are a few Un-set-looking cards in this set that aesthetically clash with everything else and I don't ever want to look at them. Worst offender might be Fowl Strike.

[@yungthunder2681]

Estrids Invocation is definitely not an F lol. I just went 7-0 with it being extremely good every game it was drawn. There are plenty of enchantments

[@Neon-chan2015]

Ah Argent Dias, how useful your two copies were at the prerelease...not

[@laboratorymaniac7324]

I sideboarded one in as a way to deal with my opponent's Emrakul (will gladly give my opponent two cards to kill that), then proceeded to never draw it and lose to Emmy anyway.

[@bladdnun3016]

A for Ophiomancer seems off. Especially in a set this overpowered.

[@andacht.]

I think that it goes in essentially every deck and asks nothing of you for a powerful effect that has the potential to warp games. That seems close to something worthy of an A-.

[@davidfarnham5623]

I played against it and it wrecked me single handedly. I didn't have removal right away and all my aggression was stymied

[@bladdnun3016]

@@davidfarnham5623 Seems like a Wall of Razors would have had pretty much the same effect. Ophiomancer is obviously a good card, but if all it does is stall the game against an aggressive deck with no removal and no evasion, that's just not an A. I'd say it's a B, possibly B+.

[@Fandolorian]

First!

[@LouieSloven]

the midroll ads are out of control, you guys need to chill

[@jonathanklabunde6639]

It has to be like every 3 minutes

[@FrowningTable]

We pay nothing to view these multi-hour episodes that take even longer to produce, im okay with having to watch a few ads to keep it that way

[@LouieSloven]

@@FrowningTable I'm okay with some ads, but come on, my dude - this has A LOT.

[@jasonmiani8108]

Go buy KZbin premium

[@dranzylskarghan]

the 'ch-' in chthonian is pronunced like 'h-orizon'

[@dranzylskarghan]

@@technetin oh well the woes of transliteration vs transcription i guess

[@Kumagoro42]

@@technetin Modern Chorizos!

[@claytonyoung1351]

I can't stand that ya'll dont know how to read mana costs.

[@GadgetGuru-r4w]

Easily the worst format in years.

[@ugdarg]

ripples of undeath + ghoyf

[@Pottering12]

Congrats LSV and Gabby ❤