The incredible amount of money, labor and time you took to make this experiment is beyond commendable. This video should have more likes by the film community. My personal experience is that flying in North America, the security agents have never had an issue hand checking my film regardless of the ISO but knowing this information for European travel I'd likely just send my rolls to be developed by a lab there and not bring any with me and purchase locally as well.
@smartereveryday Жыл бұрын
I love the premise of this video. I also thought the lead lined box would work better than it did. Good point about the safety for the security staff. Dosimeters make sense.
@finn5286 Жыл бұрын
i was just thinking destin would love this video ahaha
@ShootOnFilm11 ай бұрын
I'm flying out in a few weeks -- 3 connecting flights. I am asking for hand screening in advance from airports. Let's see if that is possible. The first airport has already been contacted. If everybody did this, we could get the message to airports. Maybe ....
@drellisevans419911 ай бұрын
Kudos on your investigative and thorough work! If exposure to airport scanners result in foggy and wave effects in film, what on Earth does it do to our body. Governments the world over are allowing more and more powerful forms of ionising radiation (cancer-causing) technologies to screen travellers. If you are a frequent flyer, how many airport scans can your body take? Be careful folks.
@linabessonova11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm thinking of a 3mm steel container + lead... but then it's already becoming pure experimentation, and totally unrealistic.
@victorprinciotta125011 ай бұрын
I'm not a scientist so someone correct me if I'm wrong but from the wikipedia article on Faraday cages "To a large degree, however, they shield the interior from external electromagnetic radiation if the conductor is thick enough and any holes are significantly smaller than the wavelength of the radiation." and x-ray wavelengths can be as small as 0.03nm and a very cursory search shows the distance between lead atoms to be somewhere between 0.175-0.3nm so it would still be enough for x ray radiation to get through. (this would be pure lead, not the lead rubber used in the video, so presumably even more radiation could get through) Although this would maybe save your film if you accidentally put it in a microwave! 😂
@Kylebroflo11 ай бұрын
Hi Lina, so i work in airport security, at least in Copenhagen Airport our scanners are measured to be okay for film under 800 ISO, anyone can ask for their rolls to be taken around our scanners, not depending on ISO. We’re currently testing out CT scanners, but we do have signs with equiment and film where it says to ask staff to take it around the scanner. I’ve taken film through many times over many years, as far as i’ve seen, there are no noticeable differences on my results. I took the excact same photos on 2 different rolls, one taken around the x-ray, one passed through. 800 ISO Maybe the models we use have a lower dose of radiation during the scan, but remember there’s also a lot of radiation while on the plane :) Unfortunately i don’t work on CT scanners yet, but if you pass through Copenhagen Airport, remember to always ask to get your film around the X-ray if that’s something you want, i ask everywhere i travel to, Heathrow will NOT take your film around unless its OVER 800 ISO. In terms of safety for staff, there are lead lined “curtains” on both ends (which usually lead to light items falling of the trays, since they’re quite heavy). They protect staff, and you can see on the machines when it’s scanning, if it’s not scanning, it’s safe to reach in there, in case something fell off :)
@linabessonova11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment! I wish all the staff at airports was as nice and well-informed as you guys in Copenhagen!
@RHelenius8 ай бұрын
Last time I did this at CPH they wanted to check all my carry on luggage. What a hassle
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Hi everyone! I am currently flying (with film :) :), and I will publish the website page with the images a couple of hours after the video goes live!
@arronk09 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the results!
@Aar69 Жыл бұрын
What a tremendous undertaking. I can't imagine subjecting myself to scanning from Airport security that many times. And you did that all just for us. I can't imagine doing that with American TSA.
@mcb187 Жыл бұрын
From what I’ve heard, they are extremely good about it actually. My experience was good as well. Told them I had film, and that I wanted a hand check. They told me the scanner shouldn’t affect film up to 800 iso, but I politely told them that I’d rather be safe then sorry. They swabbed the rolls, gave me back my film, and looked confused as to why I used film lol
@GregoryVeizades Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad my home airport is SFO, a private security firm and staff that can act like real people. Literally never an issue and often interest!
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
@@mcb187 you're totally lucky. Being the nicest person won't help you in Geneva, Nice or Paris...
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
I wonder if they would catch me :D ALthough I wasn't doing anything illegal
@hippodoesyes6475 Жыл бұрын
I've never had any problems with American airports, at least in Florida. They all seemed well trained to take care of film and were very understanding when I asked to get my film hand checked. European airports on the other hand...
@VE7DFZ-Doug Жыл бұрын
You've done what others have only envisioned in their nightmares. Your data is certainly the first that any of us has seen that is truly useful, and is based on REAL airport experience. Thank you!!!
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support! I was so fed up with being in the dark about those scanners...
@bngr_bngr10 ай бұрын
I didn’t get a notification on this video😢. Great resource for the traveling film photographer.
@SISSI_LU Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this for the film community, Lina!
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
most welcome!
@dougfromsoanierana11 ай бұрын
A year ago on a trip to Argentina I was told at the Buenos Aires domestic airport that they cannot hand check anything. The supervisor I spoke to said he would be fired if he let that happen. I had to fly out of the same airport the next day, so that’s two x-rays now. On the return trip I went through the same airport but managed to get a hand check at the Buenos Aires international airport. That’s three x-rays. So, long story short, a few of the outer images of my Portra 400 120 rolls (that I shot in the Southern Ocean/Antarctica) had banding and I’m sure some fogging, although of course I have no reference rolls. So when flying domestically in Argentina, don’t expect security to be helpful. Thanks a ton for doing this video. Hope it goes viral.
@stephenperera1966 Жыл бұрын
Few people will comprehend the effort you have made with this....chapeau! What a monumental task you set out to achieve....
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@terrywbreedlove Жыл бұрын
Lina I so appreciate all the grueling work you put in for this test. Just WOW and Thank you
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@gcardinal Жыл бұрын
What an awesome content. Finally after so many years I get the answers I was looking for so many years. What an amazing job and detailed experiment! Really hope that this video will stay online - disclosing details about airport security is a bit dodgy subject. Thank you so much!! You are the best
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! I’m only disclosing stuff they themselves never properly tested and disclosed - the film damage. Otherwise, no details 🤐
@ninakordes9 ай бұрын
Amazing work! So precious for the community! Is there a kind of a "nobel prise" for this???
@ShootOnFilm11 ай бұрын
Excellent!! Thank you so much for making this. Now, as a community, we need to rally airport security to understand this and allow hand screening. I will contact Helsinki airport tomorrow to start. The more we do this, the more people contact relevant parties, and the more we spread this info!
@ShootOnFilm11 ай бұрын
Helsinki contacted. Next Dallas :-) Not sure if this changes anything, but if everybody here contacts airport security, that might.
@ShootOnFilm11 ай бұрын
Dallas done :-)
@ExpiredFilmClub Жыл бұрын
What an epic video! Great work Lina 🙌
@LauraMendes-we2np Жыл бұрын
Great work, Lina. Thanks for taking on this cruel task 😅 This is a huge service to the film community 👏
@elStusso11 ай бұрын
This was perfect. Thank you so much for your hard work on this. I especially appreciate being able to review the results on your website at my own pace. I've got a couple trips coming up so this'll help me loads.
@steven100000000011 ай бұрын
Thanks for this massive work. I've alwyas been concerned about xrays when flying. Whilst I haven't noticed anything very obvious (without having a reference image), I think that I've been fairly lucky. I normally ask for hand checks and most security have obliged. Flew through Heathrow with about 15 rolls in December and got a hand check. Always be polite and most people are fine.
@legionchef11 ай бұрын
Amazing work. The entire film shooting community owes you for this. I’m still going to try my best to travel with film.
@ZupaISO10 ай бұрын
The amount of work you've put into making this video is unbelievable! Thank you! When I saw a 38 minutes long video about the influence of airport scanners on the film I thought I'm not nerdy enough to watch it and here I am, watched it in one go. Amazing work! 🔥
@stevewilliamson7264 Жыл бұрын
I hardly ever comment, but i must thank you for your tremendous tenacity and diligence on our behalf. This confirms my suspicions. I have very good luck, generally, getting hand checks (smiles really help where there is room for staff discretion) but it is very location-specific. We know the checked bag scanners are worse. But what do you think about sending your exposed film home via fedex or mail? Also, i am now trying to source film at my location. India, for instance, is a place i go frequently. I have scouted out where to buy film. Bottom line, as you prove: no guarantees. Again much thanks, including for making the video entertaining while serious!
@artur.charaev Жыл бұрын
That's most definitive scanners test ever. Thank you for all the efforts thats huge! So seems if you travel with film you need to carry it at least in double protective bag and ideally lead rubber container if you can get one. And even so, whenever possible ask for manual check.
@almostinfamous4211 ай бұрын
This is the most epic test thank you for taking the time and making such a thoughtful effort on behalf of all film photographers
@linjicakonikon7666 Жыл бұрын
Wow. You have done all of us in the film community a huge service! You are exceptional in your resolve to uncover the facts in this significant problem for the analog world. The Authoritarians hate film. Film is private. Digital is public. I only shoot film these days and will curtail my traveling. I live in a beautiful region so I am fine. Thank you for your hard work!
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
What an interesting point about the privacy of film
@Iisakki300011 ай бұрын
What makes you think digital is automatically public?
@kacperfilipek846111 ай бұрын
@@Iisakki3000i'd also like to say what makes film private?
@RH-adventure Жыл бұрын
Great info. I got waves on my portra400 rolls when travelling to India. Its still regular scanners but you get scanned up to five times per flight there. Then scanned every time you go into a hotel, restaurant or shopping mall.
@paulgerrard99 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Awesome work Lina - the film community owes you one after this! I've travelled with film a good few times and never noticed anything obvious but thinking about the photoshoots I've done on recent trips I have been a bit disappointed with the image quality - your finding that there's increased base fog and reduced contrast in 400 ISO black and white could well be the problem!
@paulgerrard99 Жыл бұрын
Actually now that I think more about this I've realised that my last two trips to Italy I flew home from Milan where they have CT scanners. I shot 11 rolls on my last trip was disappointed with pretty much all of them. I was particularly disappointed with all the Fomapan 200 I shot as these rolls were in a Canon EOS camera using modern professional lenses and so should have had really good contrast. But those films were from a bulk roll and in the cheap plastic canisters so weren't protected against the xrays.
@glennhunt372510 ай бұрын
This is like a dream, going back in time; ordering as much film as you can afford, all in stock. These days all we see are OUT OF STOCK signs for 35 mm and 120 mm colour and B&W film. I loved the GOOD old days when you could buy over the counter for a big project. And dont' me started on photographic paper types and sizes and finishes. "those were the daze, my friend! I hope they never end." (Maryanne Faithful). Like vinyl records, what goes around, comes around! Love your channel.
@Stealther10 ай бұрын
Wow, what an epic test! I really appreciate all the effort you went thru to provide the community all the data!
@Pumpkinz3337 ай бұрын
As a new amateur photographer that uses polaroid film I greatly appreciate these types of videos. Thank you for all your work! :)
@tedayre Жыл бұрын
Just to say what an AMAZING effort from you! This is a great video, and the full results on your website are fascinating. Thank you very much for doing this video!
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@lukemac_geniushsly698914 күн бұрын
thank you Lina, for your time and effort!!! 😭☺️☺️ very informative
@oli512011 ай бұрын
Thank you Lina for the time and effort you put into conducting this test! This is truly eye opening and is going to make me chose the film I take with me on trips a lot more carefully.
@frankdeluyck11 ай бұрын
Great video, I learned a lot! Thanks for the hard work you have put into this experiment, very helpful for the film community 👍
@TheRealHaggisMacJedi11 ай бұрын
Wow. Thank you SOOOOO much for doing all of this! This was expensive, difficult, and time consuming and I am grateful! Thank you!!
@crocato11 ай бұрын
thank you so much ❤ 😍
@drakemanalo2 ай бұрын
Found this immediately after realizing I had walked through security in a rush forgetting all of my film was in my carry on specifically to ask them to hand check it 🙃 though I can’t even remember what scanner they had. But, I’m glad that I now know the potential harm it has done to my film. This video was extremely informative and echo what so many have said. This really was an incredible undertaking and structured great. Thank you thank you!
@linabessonova2 ай бұрын
Hope it was a regular X-ray scanner and your films survived it well! And - absolutely welcome. Happy you liked it!
@CristianGeelen Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this Lina. And yeah, Airport Security services could in general definitely have an attitude adjustment towards the nice.
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
I’m torn:) I understand their job is very stressful, so I don’t expect some super attitude… but having my work destroyed is quite stressful too 😅
@tunicolage Жыл бұрын
Hi Lina thanks for doing this, it was very interesting and helpful. As an amateur photographer who travels occasionally and always with B&W 35mm film I’m in your least affected category (🙏). The key information here for me is, as you pointed, the lack of a reference. Most people just travel, shoot, come back and think nothing happened to the film at security. Myself included. Also, how popular are these CT scanners? I don’t remember seeing them, but maybe I was not paying attention. Everyone is in a rush during security checks 😄. Thank you again for your work for us!
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback! Basically every airport undergoing renovations is getting CT scanners. They're just so much faster. Last place I saw them was Belgrade - freshly installed. They're in Geneva, Milan, Amsterdam, London, Frankfurt - at least those I know about...
@phila3884 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this Lina! I travel for a living, but not always with a film camera, so when I toss one in my bag I always forget that there are X-ray machines in my travels-too late. But now I know what to really worry about, and what not to. Also, not all my exposure problems can I blame on a single x-ray scan!
@nordnils348111 ай бұрын
Great video, but I was a little confused what the difference was between the different test badges
@rexypoooo11 ай бұрын
You effort in this video is absolutely commemorative! You have earned my like and subscribe right away! I am a full time commercial videographer who travel and shoot film for fun on my work trips. I flys about 4-6 times a month in the US, and my home airport had upgraded to CT scanner last year. They always grant me hand check, so my x-ray experience goes elsewhere. 1) when I got back into shooting film last year, I purchased a bulk of Protra 400VC (expired 2007) from a Korea photographer. He assured me that he had stored the film in freezer and still shoot it at box speed. I was skeptical because shipping it to the US means it will run through security scanner. He said it made it through to Korea safe from Rochester more than 15 years ago, and said it will be fine (which I am sure when kodak freight them, it would have special treatment through security). The price was too good, and I couldn't turn it down. I acquired the film, shoot it box speed. Base fogged was extremely high and clear sine wave could be seen right through the middle of the entire roll. I now shoot it at ISO 64 to offset the damage, which mostly yield usable and "vintage" image. 2) I finished my 9-day long assignment in NYC and was flying home. But I was so tired, I forgot to take my film out for hand check. Luckily, I had been processing films through out the trip, so there was only 1 shot roll and 2 unshot rolls in the bag that gone through LGA CT scanner. I developed the shot roll, and gain size was increased noticeability and huge drop in contrast. 3) I recently came back from Japan, the line to re-enter US after custom at ATL was extremely long. I asked and granted hand check for my 13 rolls of film, but I still have a roll of 800T loaded in my Mamiya SIX; I saw that they were using an x-ray instead of CT scan at my Pre-Check line, so I just say "screw it!" and ran it through instead of explaining and slowing down the line further. Interestingly, film on both end of the spoolers was fine, but the shot that was stretch out on the pressure plate was affected, with overexposed area on the edge of the frame and in the frame itself. So, pretty much every time that I, wiling or by mistake, ran film through x-ray and CT scan, it has an immediate and visible effects as the consequences. I am so glad you made this video and show actual fact of what it does. Now every time someone said that I am crazy and X-ray doesn't affect film, I will just send them your video!
@WoWMinGM11 ай бұрын
I'm flying to Gotland this spring (4 passes in total) and this video did calm my nerves quite a bit. I'll make sure to bring only 200 iso 35mm. This must have been so expensive and difficult to make but I, and I'm sure everyone else, really appreciates it. Thanks!
@regnar37128 ай бұрын
One of the most important videos on YT for photographers!!! Thank you!
@Mobius1_ Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing as I am flying with film for the first time in a few days. Its a relief to know that my film should be perfectly fine in the same lead bag as both airports I am flying to don't have CT scanners. But now I know to look for them and request a hand check. Cheers!
@slavodanko188511 ай бұрын
Huge thanks to you LIna! For most of us is not possible to do test like this. Greetings from Slovakia
@chrisdunderdale Жыл бұрын
Amazingly useful video! Thank you so much!
@maxassco2 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I've travelled alot and so far the only airport where i had no issues was Bergen, Norway! Every time i went there they didnt hesitated to do a quick handcheck and done. Regarding Berlin i did experience that Terminal 2 does handchecks unlike Terminal 1, so sometimes it's just luck where you end up. But there are still some airports out there that wont interfere in any way like Bergen!
@GoatmanSam9 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for your hard work!
@linabessonova9 ай бұрын
totally welcome!
@SWOOPname Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lina, you are magnificent and we all really appreciate the amount of labour and pain you had to suffer with this..
@FAKETV966 ай бұрын
I appreciate all the work you put in so we could have a clear answer :)
@lajoswinkler11 ай бұрын
Great undertaking. Classical (not "analog", mind you) photographers will appreciate this experiment.
@lorenzvontols969711 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your work! I highly appreciate the test data! All the best to you :)
@CarlosLopezMedrano11 ай бұрын
Thank you very very much for doing this :) I’ve been traveling with film and always in limbo, stressed and uncertain of what it could really happen to it. You give a realistic conclusion of what actually happens to it. Cheers!
@mysticmaps36344 күн бұрын
Such a great video, finally a good answer to all those reddit threads about "will my film get damaged at the airport"!
@Aleiex Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a fantastic experiment. Thank you so much for all the tests! I've had film damaged too, and sometimes when I ask for hand checks they will double check my baggage too, but most of the time they understand
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Yeah… it’s a gamble every time
@cyrusf.4039 Жыл бұрын
What an effort! Thank you for taking this on. Very useful research for the community.
@zand Жыл бұрын
Super interesting experiment. Thanks! The CT scans in the airports are safe for outside personnel, they definitely do not work at the same power levels and energies that of medical ones, and both the gantry and foldable covers at the ends protect people around from harm. Also, the more you add dense protections around your films, the more these scanners will boost the xrays they produce in order to get through and view what is inside (like would the auto settings when using your flash), so it is really dependent of the CT manufacturer, the auto-exposure algorithms, the xray sensors on the machine, and the image reconstruction software that are used. All that to say it might actually be counter-productive to cover your film with steel and lead when going through these higher energy machines (thought my personal experience, lead protections tend to protect better and let less photo altering rays through rather than steel). Airport machines tend also to work at variable energies (the kilovolts) which reveal different kind of materials (which usually show as different colors on the controller's screen). Films have different sensitivities to these energy spectrums, so one film might be super sensitive to a machines xray spectrum and not as much to another. There are also films that are by nature sensitive to xray (e.g. FPP's x-ray 120 film...) that will then clearly print the rays... It is definitely a complex process, but all traditional films will usually be altered to one level or another, it's just very complicated to objectively cover all the manufacturers of both xray machines and films.
@infinearts74511 ай бұрын
@zans is right. We should consider also that films manufactured in one country or another will be delivered to their final retailers by plane. Hence the film will undergo a scan at some points. In 30 years of professional photographic life I never had to complain about scan issues. The magic number of 2 scans (go and back) is fair. Of course, putting films over and over under airport scans is not good. The only valid suggestion and advise I can give is: develop your film locally (when possible). If not possible take your gears and chems with you and do the job on location. There are not so many different ways.
@Incredzible11 ай бұрын
This was my understanding too regarding x-ray protective bags (i.e., that they may end up counter productive). But if you go through the pictures on Lina's website it seems in every case the bag is better. What am I missing?
@amethystus__2 ай бұрын
i’m really impressed. thank you so much for this work ❤
@wichersham8 ай бұрын
Holy moly this video is a product of film love. Great job!!! THANK YOU!!!
@MrRuangkit2 ай бұрын
Thank you, you are a true inspiration
@borjagil72557 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for all the work you put into this, Lina. Great material.
@canoedoctor11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for going through all of that effort to get real world data on this!
@tgchism11 ай бұрын
Very educational! I have never noticed any issues but I did not have a reference roll. I typically shoot 100 asa film.
@cameronwilson8561 Жыл бұрын
Lina, this is undoubtedly the best video ever regarding this subject matter. Well done, and thank you for hard work. I was actually very surprised that the protective bags had any effect at all. This video might persuade me to buy one.
@MrocznyTechnik9 ай бұрын
At San Francisco airport I asked for manual check of my films, and officer was OK with that. I hope it will be more and more common.
@robifleming Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this! I can’t imagine how much work went into this
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Welcome ! Yeah it’s been crazy
@cshan91 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this test! Deserves an award for this!
@BernardGarceau11 ай бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work and research into this topic -- just incredibly in depth! Only ever had issues with one roll of film -- waves, so I'll count myself lucky.
@jmguitarnavy11 ай бұрын
Lina, amazing informational video! Thank you so much! I wonder if overexposing negative film by 1+ stops after CT scanning would minimize the effects or not. Keep up with the good content!
@Arturo.H.M11 ай бұрын
What a great job! I think this is, from now, the reference in this topic.
@anx1ety_prime11 ай бұрын
you put an insane amount of work into this, its amazing, thank you!!
@andyhertig11 ай бұрын
Hallo Lina, vielen Dank für den riesigen Aufwand - super informatives Video !
@StonedSay1011 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for doing this test. It proves to me once again to continue handing my film to TSA agents for a manual check, if I'm not holding up the line.
@simonefaluschi394011 ай бұрын
Great great great job, lot of work, effort, and money invested in this. Thank you very much to finally clarify, with tests, what could happen to our films.
@wv_ Жыл бұрын
A tip for the UK: Heathrow are the biggest A-holes when it comes to film, they 100% refuse hand checking but City Airport if you can afford to fly there, they even offered to hand check my camera if it had film inside twice
@marcogiai-coletti354 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's one epic experiment. Well done and thank you.
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed it 😊😊
@GeorgiosKalaydjian4 ай бұрын
Dear Lina, thank you so much for the great effort in giving a documented video to the film community. A question please, what do you mean by “Protective Bag” do you mean you carry bag?
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much fot taking the effort to do this! Greetings from Argentina!
@GeoffT650 Жыл бұрын
What an effort, well done Lina! Very interesting to see what the effects are. I will start rethinking taking film abroad. I have used airports and Eurostar in the last year and they wouldn’t do a hand inspection of the film as they claimed there machines were safe! Also to add to this, think about tourist attractions and museums, a lot of those also use xray machines before they allow you in. More risk.
@bluur101 Жыл бұрын
In Egypt a few years ago hotels, tourist-sites, public-venues and even shopping-areas all had xray scanners (for good reasons of course) -- and probably not modern well-calibrated models either. I carried the minimum amount of film needed before a return to the hotels to restock.
@caixetapatricia8 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Thank you for all the effort and the fieldwork to get it done! I started shooting film last year after buying an old camera, and I had a 35mm Portra 400 traveling with me to many countries between August and January. The results were obviously awful: completely foggy. Ans I kept wondering what I had done wrong. Now it makes sense
@Fuegoshotz6 ай бұрын
Big ups for doing this experiment!
@frstesiste7670 Жыл бұрын
This was really interesting and a lot of work! I haven't brought film on a plane for almost twenty years, but what I used to do when going somewhere reasonably civilized was to just bring one film in the camera, ask for manual inspection (usually worked, except on Heathrow) and then buy the rest of the film I needed after the flight. Going back I tried to get the films developed before my return flight(s) if possible. I'm of course aware that this strategy is much harder today, but it's still possible in some places.
@BernardTreyvaud8 күн бұрын
Depending on where your destination country is you may purchase your film locally and have them processed there as well, in most countries they will propose you to have them processed there and have the file sent to your sms or email then send your negatives by mail or just hand them to you if you have some time to spear. That’s work in most modern Asian countries, Australia and New-Zealand.😊
@IGladiatorX Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing that Lina. Such an effort for the sake of film photography. Great conclusion at the end.
@andrydilindra Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lina! 🤙🏻
@MTimWeaver Жыл бұрын
I've never taken a film camera with me on a flight as I haven't traveled much since I started shooting film again in 2018. If I'm flying domestic, I'll probably ship my film at least back from the destination and, if visiting family, ship it to the destination, too. Sure, an added expense, but then I don't have to worry about scanners ruining my film....only that it gets lost in shipping. Trade-offs. Now, if I fly internationally, no idea what to do on the trip out, at least. Guess I'll have to wait for the next video. :) Thank you again, Lina. You're the best!
@Pezinokrm Жыл бұрын
Hi Lina great video and thank you for all the hard work in producing this report.
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it😊
@joakimpersson942511 ай бұрын
Great work, what useful information this is for all film shooters! Thanks! I've passed through the Berlin scanners many times with 35 mm film and made it so far. To minimize the number of times it get x-rayed, I try to buy film on the travel location, if possible : )🤞
@shawnandmavis11 ай бұрын
Excellent video, thank you very much for the detailed test and dedication!!! Definitely useful information for all film shooters.
@sprocket_holes Жыл бұрын
Wow, amazing video Lina! Thank you so much for taking this huge effort, absolutely epic.
@wanderpup Жыл бұрын
I love how you went total OCD with the security scanning. This is supremely helpful. What alternatives do we have to get film back home if we decide to ship film home to avoid carry-on scanning? What shipping carriers are best for lower scanning intensity? This may be another video project. Can't wait to see what you find and thank you for braving another 11km of airport steps
@wanderpup Жыл бұрын
If its possible to get results for EU to USA travellers that would be awesome! Thank you
@kumimukimu6 ай бұрын
If you're going through the hassle of getting film shipped home, in which case your film will go through stronger scanners than those used at airports, you might as well look into getting them developed at the place you're visiting. Then any scanning done on them won't do any damage
@danielbarnett4091 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting in all this work. This answers a lot of my questions.
@JoseMBahamonde11 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for doing this study in behalf of all the film photographers! 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@tolga1cool11 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing video pretty much confirming my anecdotal findings of the last few years travelling with film. One thing id like to add aboht the xray protection bags. Ive had the experience where hand checking was denied and adter sending the bagged film through the machine they demanded so send it through again without the bag. Just something to keep in mind which could happen to you
@steveh12739 ай бұрын
that happened to me also, had to remove it from the bag.
@stephensardos641811 ай бұрын
I can't imagine how expensive it was to make this video.... But, it was probably the best video I've seen on that subject matter.
@BorisKukec Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It is very informative and I'm sure that it is helpfule for film photography community. Keep up the good work! ❤😊
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! 😊
@timschulz956311 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I would like to give my feedback on potential improvements: 1) Using shot film only. It would be interesting to see if/how the order of shooting film and xray scanning matters. Film is not fully linear in exposure response, so it could potentially lead to a different outcome. 2) Testing different bags in Amsterdam has a methodic flaw: The cosmic radiation during the flight. The films should have partially been swapped after the scan on the ground to distinguish cosmic influences and CT influences. 3) The machines might have different energy options. The tube voltages could vary from manufacturer to manufacturer, from machine to machine or from setting to setting. So the sample size (both in times and in number of machines) is too small for a significant result (unless it is exactly regulated somewhere). 4) The Beer-Lambert law comes into play. Twice the lead thickness reduces the attenuation by the same ratio as the first layer. Example: 70% pass thorugh one layer -> 70% of the 70% percent (49%) pass through the second layer. 5) Placement of the film inside the scanner. Maybe different orientations lead to different exposured to xrays.
@mikepxg640611 ай бұрын
Yes.
@tedsmith_photography Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this test and the great efforts clearly you have taken. This is very helpful. I've been taking film abroad through regular X-ray machines for over 10 years, and hardly ever been granted a hand check (unusually only Santorini airport staff hand checked it without me asking!) and I've never had any issues. I'm yet to go through CT scanners and was worried about it. I am still, a bit, but most of my abroad films are 100 or 400 at most.
@lindemann31610 ай бұрын
The films don't show up inside the bag on CT probably due to beam hardening. The lead lets only the most energetic photons through, absorbing the ones with lower energy. The detectors don't expect to receive rays with such high energy, so the reconstructive algorithm overcompensates and creates an image that looks "overexposed". But the film still gets a high dose.
@coryfromphilly Жыл бұрын
Lots of effort, thank you! I likewise had a bad experience at Berlin Airport when transferring from JFK to BER to AMS. The TSA in America are accommodating for hand checking film (at JFK and PHL), but the Berlin staff wasn't! The one guy rolled his eyes at me and told me he had to get the Polizei to hand check it. AMS and HAM staff were kind enough to hand check, so only one x-ray pass for my film this summer.