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Abraham Lincoln uses his powers as the president of the United States of America as he strives to abolish slavery and reunite his country during the Civil War.
With the nation embroiled in still another year with the high death count of Civil War, President Abraham Lincoln brings the full measure of his passion, humanity and political skill to what would become his defining legacy: to end the war and permanently abolish slavery through the 13th Amendment. Having great courage, acumen and moral fortitude, Lincoln pushes forward to compel the nation, and those in government who oppose him, to aim toward a greater good for all mankind.
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Release date: 7 February 2013 (Australia)
Director: Steven Spielberg
Awards: Academy Award for Best Actor in a Leading Role, MORE
Box office: 275.3 million USD
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[@Northbravo]

If there is ONE thing most Americans can agree on is that Lincoln is almost universally praised as the Greatest President ever elected into office.

[@tbone9803]

Absolute nonsense. He was a tyrant who set the precedent for what the US government has become. Teddy Roosevelt was our greatest president

[@tombondcrispy6585]

🤷‍♂️

[@milesb2111]

yeah its hard to say any other president was greater, maybe George Washington. He defeated the british and was the first president, also voluntarily gave away his power.

[@dansdiscourse4957]

There are three contenders for the title of greatest president: Washington, Lincoln, and FDR. They were all so great, each in their own way, and I can never quite make up my mind about who deserves the top spot

[@andygossard4293]

​@@dansdiscourse4957FDR was an elitist, communist, and he took, is over praised.

[@johannesvalterdivizzini1523]

We mustn't forget that Lincoln was largely self-educated. A man of extraordinary intelligence and will. "Show the world that democracy isn't chaos"

[@milesb2111]

He was also a wrestler that rarely lost.

[@MovieJoob]

So impressive I had no idea!!

[@MovieJoob]

An extremely impressive man

[@johannesvalterdivizzini1523]

@@MovieJoob Is it a surprise that we Americans regard him as a hero? We've had some good luck with presidents--George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Franklin Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt, and of course Lincoln were our greatest. There were more who were mediocre, but generally speaking the machinery of politics and consensus means that most presidents aren't particularly extreme or tremendously creative either.

[@spacemanspiff3052]

Lincoln was a man of his time, but an extraordinary man of his time who accomplished more than he set out to do by taking risks when the opportunity presented itself to do the right thing.

[@Sir_Alex]

Another monster performance by Daniel Day-Lewis, what a gifted actor.

[@fannybuster]

The Best Male actor in the World

[@MovieJoob]

Unbelievably talented!! 😮

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@MovieJoob Please react to Daniel Day-Lewis in "The Last Mohican" (1992) it is amazing.

[@shainewhite2781]

Daniel Day Lewis took home the Oscar for his role as Abraham Lincoln.

[@johannesvalterdivizzini1523]

Yes, and well deserved.

[@MovieJoob]

Very deserved!! 🙌

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

my uncle, seymore sickerson, won honorable mention oscar playing lincoln's mole. in 1840 William Henry Harrison was elected the 9th u. s. president. he died a year later while in office. 20 years later, lincoln, elected in 1860, died in office. this started the myth of the presidential curse. since 1840 every president elected in a year ending in "0," which occurs every 20 years, died in office until 1980 when reagan was elected. reagan was shot in office but didn't die ending the curse. history's just full of strange coincidences like this. its one thing that makes history so interesting.

[@hollywoodoutsider]

Lincoln was 56 when he died but he looked much older. There's a famous portrait taken of Lincoln by Alexander Gardner a few month's before his death which is worth a look to see how wasted and fatigued he looked. From descriptions of symptoms, and his unusual thin, tall physique that many commented on in his lifetime, there's a theory that he suffered from Marfan syndrome. Also, he suffered from "melancholy", what we would call depression. Despite everything, he was quick witted and funny. Once when being accused of being two-faced he responded, "If I Had Another Face, Do You Think I'd Wear This One?"

[@MovieJoob]

I can only imagine how drained and exhaustive his life and work would've been! What a beautiful human!

[@MovieJoob]

And that is so interesting that it's thought he might have had Marfan syndrome!!

[@DDD11239]

​@@MovieJoob There are reports that he would often spend time sobbing in his deceased son's room. Also, he couldn't trust himself with knives.

[@evanboyd1541]

Fun fact Robert Lincoln fell onto the railroad tracks at a Jersey City, New Jersey train station and was saved by Edwin Booth(older brother of John Wilkes Booth) in late 1864.

[@johnchrysostomon6284]

Featured in the film, but they don’t state who he is is Ely Samuel Parker (1828 - August 31, 1895)

One of Grant's staff was a general who was a Seneca Indian who was with Grant to receive Lee’s surrender at Appomattox Court House.

As Lee entered and saw Parker he said “Ah, a real American”, and Parker replied “We are all American.” Although I'm an Aussie my dad came from Indiana so I've always been fascinated by the Civil War

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

Well, you're lucky enough to have dual citizenship! Cool!

[@haraldisdead]

"Any understanding of this nation has to be based, and I mean really based, on an understanding of the Civil War. … It was the crossroads of our being, and it was a hell of a crossroads."

[@theRappinSpree]

The voice, the gait, the storytelling of Lincoln. Daniel Day Lewis’ best performance IMO.

[@drewyoung8104]

After Lincoln's Son Willie died of Typhoid fever in February 1862 Lincoln wrapped a Black ribbon around his hat to remind him of Willie

[@markpekrul4393]

No one of that time understood America and what that War was truly about better or more completely than Lincoln. His great humanity was matched by a cunning political sense. One of the enduring tragedies of American history is that he was denied the opportunity to fully witness the restored union he fought so hard personally to save. It brings tears to my eyes when I consider it. There are few more beautiful words in American oratorical history than the concluding lines from his second inaugural address: "With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations." I am also reminded of his powerful words from 1838, which echo today as true now as they were then: "Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."

[@michaelb1761]

Yes, it would have been interesting to see how Reconstruction would have gone if Lincoln had been President. It certainly would have been different with his strength and cunning guiding it instead of Andrew Johnson standing against the men who wanted to punish the southern states and who wanted more power for themselves.

[@markpekrul4393]

@@michaelb1761 I think it would have been better had he served his 2nd term, and especially had Johnson not served at all. I don't think anything could have completely eliminated the terrible plight of black Americans during the Jim Crow south, but it might have been lessened. I read an account once (can't recall where) that said that in the immediate years following the end of the war there was a sense among some southern leaders that their day had truly ended and that they needed to do what they could to ensure at least a modicum of safety and equanimity for the former slaves. But Johnson, as well as the presidents after him, signaled clearly that we weren't interested in getting involved in the south's domestic issues. I could have that wrong, but I believe that's what I read.

[@swisscheeseneutral6820]

Lincoln, never went to school, became a profitable lawyer, professional wrestler, gun enthusiast, and president. Few men nowadays like that

[@tileux]

He also secretly owned a german language newspaper, for which he wrote most of the articles. Naturally, they praised lincoln and, not coincidentally, he always got a significant proportion of the german-american votes. He was a wise man and a political genius, which is another way of saying he was a man who had a very good grasp of human nature. Most of the men who were in his cabinet were men who were his fierce opponents, but each served lincoln with amazing devotion and absolute candour. Many people forget that Seward was a target of the lincoln assassins and was stabbed in the jaw and neck at his home at the same time lincoln was shot.

[@DDD11239]

​@@tileux To be fair, Germany had yet to be controversial in terms of human treatment. 75 years later, or so.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

Spielberg's best film, imo. He hits the bullseye and doesn't go overboard with emotion. It's just the right mark.

[@billolsen4360]

I think Spielberg just might be a great man as well as a great moviemaker.

[@Theomite]

I'd say his best film in many years, likely since THE TERMINAL, at least.

[@karlmoles6530]

Tommy Lee Jones should have won an Oscar for his performance as Thaddeus Stevens.

[@williamward446]

"Now he belongs to the ages..."

[@MovieJoob]

And indeed he does!! 2024 and people (like myself) are still learning about his legacy!!

[@jackmessick2869]

Lincoln is believed to be the US President with the highest IQ. He was born in February 1809, so he was 56 when assassinated by a member of the best known family of actors, the Booth family. Sort of an Alec or Stephen Baldwin of his day. Lincoln had seen him in plays. It started as a kidnap plot to bring victory to the Confederacy, but the surrender the week before meant a kidnap would be useless. So John Wilkes Booth turned it into a revenge-murder plot. He conspired with 2 other would-be assassins to murder the President, the Vice President, and Secretary Seward, who is one of the main characters in this film. The other two failed in their attempts. There was a several week manhunt for Booth, who wouldn't be taken. He died in a siege-style shootout. In an odd coincidence of history, in 1864, Edwin Booth, the brother of Lincoln's assassin saved Lincoln's son Robert from falling off a train platform as a train approached. The amendment to end slavery in the US was the 13th amendment to our current Constitution. 10 were added shortly after the adoption of the Constitution. They mostly deal with the freedoms of expression, and to bear arms, and rights of people suspected or accused of breaking the law. Another one was to fix the election process for Vice President and President. Off the top of my head I cannot remember what the other of the first twelve was about. Only 3 changes between 1792 and 1865. Since then, there have been another 15, for a total of 28. And one of those was to repeal a previous amendment that banned the sale of alcoholic beverages ( it only took 14 years to find out that was a bad idea).

[@Northbravo]

"Free at last, Free at last, Thank God Almighty we are Free at last!" Martin Luther King "I Have A Dream" Speech

[@justicebarnes7857]

" I propose to fight it out on this line if it takes all summer."- US Grant

[@dansdiscourse4957]

Before I give you a fun fact, I want to give you a little back. America is famous for being pretty religious, and it was even more religious back then. Lincoln was sometimes called Father Abraham, a reference to the Biblical figure who's the common ancestor of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. That's how religious America was. So it must have seemed a big deal that the South surrendered on Palm Sunday that year. Lincoln was shot 5 days later, which means he was shot on Good Friday that year, adding to the perception of him as a Christ like figure.

[@user-jf3xm4db9d]

Thanks for watching this. There isn’t enough love for this movie.

[@MovieJoob]

I’m so glad I did!! I really loved it!

[@joshuawebb5891]

Thaddeus Stevens, was really a forgotten hero. To think he did it all outta love makes it all the remarkable

[@alancoy5305]

Glad you reacted to this gem. Willie was his 11 year old son who had tragically passed away from Typhoid Fever in 1862. It devestated both The President and First Lady Mary Todd. For a comparison story. Democrat Franklin Pierce of New Hampshire had been elected president in 1852 at 48, young for that time. On the way to Washington for the inauguration in March of 1853, their train derailed, and his 11 year old son was killed in the derailment. This sent his wife into secluded mourning for his entire administration. Pierce, who already had a big alcohol problem, went into a drinking and drunken stupor for the four years of his presidency, especially because of this tragedy. This and his failure to quell the massacres and violence of "Bleeding Kansas" between pro and anti slavery forces in Kansas Territory starting in 1854 aling with other factors;doomed his renomination by the Democrats in 1856. Lincoln even through the loss of Willie and the continued and crushing loss of over 600,000 Americans on BOTH sides combined, was able to still hold it together and he led the country through the war and freed the slaves. This is partially why He is my favorite president of them all. You should research the 1850s and the causes of the American Civil War. A lot happened, a very unstable decade for the country. Much of Early American History from 1776 to 1865 is fair game to study. The book this film is based off of "Team of Rivals" by Doris Kearns Goodwin is a must read also. Great reaction to a great film! Abraham Lincoln was 51 when he was elected and 56, when he was reelected and assassinated.

[@kschneyer]

He was 56 when he was killed.

[@alancoy5305]

@@kschneyer I stand corrected.

[@duanetelesha]

The Gettysburg Address, greatest short speech ever made, Abe Lincoln was one of our greatest presidents. Great reaction.

[@mikeyben7]

I’m in Southwest Missouri (which was a split state during the Civil War). There are about 10 battlefields within an hour of me. Such a sad conflict. Thanks for your reaction! ❤

[@ThistleAndSea]

Good one, MJ. It's a remarkable story. So many deaths at this time in American history. It's a miracle that the country survived. It did, but the scars run deep. To this day, no one can truly understand America without understanding the Civil War, Thank you for sharing this one.

[@charlesedwards2856]

Not sure if someone said this already. “Willie” is mentioned at the start of the film and you ask who that is and what happened. Willie Lincoln was the 3rd son of Abraham and Mary. He died of Typhoid Fever in 1862. His death threw the Lincoln family into varying stages of grief and depression. Abraham had to compartmentalize his grief because he had the war to deal with. Tad, who was the youngest son, just missed his playmate and brother. Robert was in grief, but was a young man at university and was able to move on the best, seemingly. Mary, however, was almost completely destroyed mentally and emotionally. She was considered a very emotional person and had a rough life with much death surrounding her. They had lost their second son at the age of 3 or 4 due to illness and it did a lot of damage to her, but they were able to get through it. Lincoln himself, though compartmentalizing, still visited the tomb of Willie in Washington quite often, spending hours there with his son’s casket. When Abe was killed, Mary clearly had a mental breakdown. She never truly recovered. Only about seven years later, Tad would die as well from a sickness, and she fully broke, never really being seen in public again. The eldest, Robert, I believe had her committed at that point, or at least deemed mentally incompetent, and controlled much of what she could do for the rest of her life…which was only a couple years more. He didn’t do it out of being an ass, although he was a bit of one. He did it because she kept wasting money on charlatans who claimed they could speak to the dead, and held a bunch of seances to try and contact Abe and the boys, spending a vast majority of her money.

[@wesleypeters4112]

Lincoln saw his first slave auction in person during a trip to Louisiana. He wrote about how evil the practice of slavery was and would spend the rest of his life fighting against the practice. Also, a lesser-known fact, both of his parents were anti-slavery as well.

[@rickcrane9883]

Hey Joob. As a former American History instructor, it does my heart good to see you react to films such as Lincoln, Glory, etc.

[@juansala4220]

Best POTUS ever! And my spiritual protector. I have spoken to him in dreams twice

[@billolsen4360]

The more books I read about Lincoln, the more I like him. 10:03 Now, there's a practitioner of amoral politics, Fernando Wood! 21:02 Abraham proposed because Mary loved him so much and then he broke their engagement went into a deep depression because he thought his poor frontier childhood & lack of education would mean he wasn't worthy of a sophisticated, well-educated woman like her. She was patient and awaited until his 2nd proposal. They lost their 4-year-old second son to disease and then their 3rd son Willie at age 11. Since losing children is very hard on marriages, that might be what Mary is talking about. They both loved playing physically with and spoiled their boys and were closer to their kids than most parents of the Victorian era.

[@Ernwaldo]

Bravo. Fantastic reaction. Not only your cerebral, physical and emotional reaction, but your patience & understanding of a mostly alien subject. Believe me, a lot of us in the US, have minimal understanding of how our government actually works, much less 160 years ago. You really seem to follow along well and grasp the important concepts and the general message. Thank you for sharing with us.

[@charlesedwards2856]

Two final points to bring up… 1) I LOVE the way Daniel Day-Lewis portrayed Lincoln in every aspect, down to his walk. While we don’t have any film or video of Lincoln, obviously, the descriptions of him abound. One of the most talked about was his walk. He was described as “needing to be oiled”, and if you watch at the end of the movie as he leaves the White House, he walks exactly how Lincoln was described to. 2) The time period after the war is called Reconstruction. It is one of the single worst periods in our history because it ultimately failed in its task. On the upside, we got the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments that outlawed slavery, gave citizenship to the formerly enslaved people, and gave black men the right to vote, respectively. It also opened up the ability to seek public office for black people, and many black men served as representatives and senators in southern states for a time after the war. Unfortunately, no one knows how Lincoln planned to deal with this time period and the men who ran the confederate states. The man who became president after Lincoln died was Andrew Johnson, a Democrat from Tennessee, and the only member of Congress from a state that seceded from the Union to not leave with them. Lincoln made him his Vice Presidential pick in 1864 because the war was close to being over and he thought it would be an olive branch to the south to have one of their own in a high-up position as they came back into the country. Sadly, Johnson, while a Union man, was an ardent racist and believed black people didn’t deserve what they got. It’s partly because of this that he was so lenient on those men who had run the confederacy, not barring them from running for office again. Many of those men took up the same positions they had in Congress before the war, and made it their mission to end Reconstruction and the presence of U.S. troops in the south, who were there to enforce the new laws that gave equality to the former slaves. Within only a few years, many southern states began passing “Black Codes”, laws meant to curtail the civil rights of black people in their states so they could keep them in a position as close to slavery as possible. Within 20 years of the end of Reconstruction (ended in 1876), the Supreme Court ruled that racial segregation was legal and all the same states who seceded for the war (and a couple others) began making where whites and blacks would be completely separated in life, unless it was unavoidable. That lasted well into the 1960’s. We still have race issues today, but the governments of southern states are proposing, if not passing, legislation that bans certain topics in history from being taught, or tells them how to teach it so white people “don’t feel guilty or bad” about it…even though we friggin’ should! Our ancestors did that crap, we should be ashamed that they did, accept it, and apologize…not hide it just so we don’t feel bad about it. IT HAPPENED! You can’t change that, no matter how much you try to make laws to do that.

[@jackmessick2869]

Lincoln's Gettysburg address (given at a new military cemetery dedication in the town of Gettysburg), and the speech he gave at his second inauguration, are classic must-reads in the English language. And he had no speech writer, save himself. They are both short for speeches.

[@kschneyer]

A lovely reaction! It is interesting to compare this film to “Young Mr. Lincoln” (1939), with Henry Fonda in the title role. That film shows Lincoln as a young lawyer arguing a murder case (not the one mentioned in this film). He was one of the outstanding trial attorneys of his generation. Presidents’ terms of office are fixed, so Lincoln wasn’t worried about being voted out of office. The dense legal argument Lincoln males in the Cabinet meeting perplexes many viewers. It’s subtle and profound, and shows the urgency of the vote. You clearly understood the major conflicts of the film; I wouldn’t worry about anything you missed.

[@TD-mg6cd]

In reference to the opening statement: The American Founding Fathers vehemently rejected "democracy" in favor of a republic. Benjamin Franklin said that democracy was like two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. The bloody, and terroristic French Revolution was for democracy. A new book has just come out on this topic, Domestic Enemies: The Founding Fathers' Fight Against the Left by Daniel Greenfield.

[@fannybuster]

Have a Great Weekend Miss Joob.Can't wait to see you again ,You friendly sweet face is always appreciated

[@MovieJoob]

Awww thank you so much as always ❤❤

[@jeffsherk7056]

Jade, Abraham Lincoln was born in February, 1809 in Kentucky. In 1864, he would have been 55 years old at the time of the election for president.

[@keithowen3523]

What an outstanding movie. Thank you for the right emotion and your admiration of one of our greatest if not the greatest Presidents.

[@billolsen4360]

The more books I read about Lincoln, the more I like him

[@Robertz1986]

I still would give Washington credit for bearing the most weight. Lincoln was in a rough spot, but never camping out in the woods with the American army down to 6,000 troops with no food or supplies in winter, marching through the snow in a last ditch effort to overrun British and German positions despite being catastrophically outnumbered.

[@tileux]

Lincoln was famous for his witty stories and sayings. Stanton - the bearded fat secretary of war - was both his political opponent and an accomplished city lawyer. Lincoln had actually employed stanton for a few cases for a couple of lincoln’s larger clients. Stanton, when he first met lincoln, thought him s country bumpkin and more or less told him so. But after working with him he developed a huge respect for Lincoln. So much so that when lincoln asked him to replace his ineffective war secretary, stanton agreed, despite always being on the opposite political side before. Also, when the civil war began, the north declared slaves ‘contraband’ on the basis that they were property being used by the confederates (those were the red trousered soldiers in glory). The emancipation proclamation took that one step further, declaring slaves free in the rebel states - on the probably wrong basis that the constitution was suspended in the rebel states during the war. But if the emancipation proclamation wasnt legal and the federal government went back to regarding slaves as property then another clause of the constitution meant slaves could not be freed unless they were bought at a fair price by the government - which was a problem because it meant slavery might be reinstated by the states if the war ended. So lincoln needed a constitutional amendment to overrule all those legal problems. But in the north there was always a large minority that didnt care about slavery and regarded black americans as inferior. That had been a problem because in the early years of the war important generals like mcclellan hadnt been that concerned about defeating the confederates because they saw little advantage to it. But lincoln, from the start, saw slavery as the divisive issue that had to be resolved,because it had caused a lot of bloodshed in the new states joining the usa - bearing in mind most of the northwest and midwest was still not officially part of the usa at that time. Also, ‘mrs stephens’, as she was known, actually passed as white, although her late husband and her sons were obviously black. But ‘mrs stephens’ - it is still not known if they ever married but stephens left his estate to her - always refused to be seen in public with stephens due to the potential fir controversy over her race. That scene near the end is true. Lincoln did travel to richmond and rode around the city with a minimal escort. He was actually present at a number of battles. He was standing looking over a fort wall with his top hat on when a young lieutenant oliver wendell holmes jr - who went on to become the chief justice of the supreme court - yelled at him ‘get your head down, you danged fool!’. Lincoln responded by climbing down from the parapet with an amused smile on his face.

[@8967Logan]

No one has taken me up on it yet, but there is a wonderful film about Lincoln that shows his life leading up to the election of 1860. The actor could be his twin brother, "Abe Lincoln in Illinois". If you find yourself curious about what made him the man that preserved the union and ended slavery in the US, you might want to check it out.

[@dan_hitchman007]

As a companion piece to this film, you should read historian Doris Kearns Goodwin's award-winning biopic on Lincoln called "Team of Rivals." It was the nonfiction book that inspired this movie. It really shines a light on Abraham Lincoln, our finest President, and makes him so much more human and approachable.

[@billolsen4360]

It's a lonnnnng book, but never boring. You don't want it to end. Doris is a fantastic author.

[@chuckhilleshiem6596]

I have commented to your work before but I'm sure you don't remember and that's ok. When I listen to you it's kind of like listening to an old friend talk to me. keep it up. I'm a fan.

[@xYSarenArteriusxY]

Interracial marriage was not legal in the entire US until 1967 with Loving v Virginia. There's a movie about the case that came out a few years ago

[@kschneyer]

Not accurate. Interracial marriage was legal in many states (34) before Loving, and it had *always* been legal in at least 9. That case determined that the remaining states could not declare it illegal.

[@xYSarenArteriusxY]

@@kschneyer 34 states having legal interracial marrriage prior to Loving means that interracial marriage was not legal in the entire US prior to that. You literally prove my point

[@MovieJoob]

It seems so recent 1967 which is so wild. Did that only count for black Americans or did that include asian americans, Latinos etc?

[@xYSarenArteriusxY]

@@MovieJoob It depended on the state. Mostly all the states that had a ban on interracial marriage at some point had their bans against Black and White marriages; others had bans against Blacks and Asians, etc. But the most common denominator was against Blacks. Most states repelead their anti-miscegenation laws prior to 1967, but Loving v. Virginia made it unconstitutional throughout the entire country to ban interracial marriages

[@charlesedwards2856]

⁠@@kschneyerand just like with Roe v. Wade, there has never been a law passed by Congress codifying interracial marriage, so it is just as easily removed back to the states. What’s worse is that one Supreme Court Justice has said he would be willing to overturn Loving, and that justice is Clarence Thomas, a black man who is married to a white woman.

[@samuelchamp9899]

Thank you for your reaction. it was very enjoyable as always. My suggestion is for you to just read a few of his speeches. Gettysburg, of course, and the 2nd inaugural. He also gave a speech at Peoria Illinois in 1854 about the Missouri Compromise of 1820, which extended slavery into the western territories. He was very much against that, obviously. He also ran (and lost) for the Senate against Stephen Douglas. They had a series of debates during the campaign that are very entertaining. Anyway, thanks again.

[@stonecoldku4161]

An interesting fact: A few months before John Wilkes Booth assassinated President Lincoln his older brother Edwin Booth himself a famous actor helped save the life of Robert Lincoln, Abe's eldest son. Robert was awaiting a train at a busy station, as the train was coming up the station the crowd of people surged forward, and Robert was pushed off the platform and onto the tracks. Edwin Booth was able to help lift Robert back onto the platform before he was hit by the train. Robert recognized the actor Edwin, but Edwin didn't realize who it was that he helped save that day until later when he received a letter from President Lincoln thanking him for saving Robert.

[@TD-mg6cd]

There is no peace without victory.

[@tommyriner9914]

I’ve lived in Virginia my entire life, the amount of civil war building and battle fields aswell as so many of our early presidents estates is pretty amazing, I used to life down the road from a civil war hospital and so many more things, rural Virginia is unique for all of these movie scenes aswell

[@TD-mg6cd]

Lincoln was almost 54 during this time, born February 12, 1809.

[@brandon7233]

This is an all time top 5 movie for me. Sometimes the world produces the exact right leader that is required for the moment. Lincoln was our greatest leader. I highly, highly recommend reading ‘The Personal Memoirs of U.S. Grant’ published by Mark Twain in 1885. Great read

[@TheOffkilter]

Lincoln's Cabinet was full of characters as youve seen, they were known and still known as the "Gang of Rivals" because he deliberately picked men who were his rivals in Republican politics during his election but who he knew to be competent men. He always valued hearing opinions that differed from his own, it was one of his many strengths as a leader. Its been emulated to very little success by American presidents since.

[@KennethSavage-nn2vv]

This was one of ten most important moments in United States History… I’m a former US history teacher and this is a good portrayal of this moment. Nice reaction and review 👊🏻

[@MovieJoob]

Oh wow that's so cool that you were a US history teacher!!

[@MovieJoob]

And thank you so much!!

[@KennethSavage-nn2vv]

@@MovieJoob my pleasure. I enjoy your reactions…

[@bigsteve6200]

Other Lincoln films, Abraham Lincoln, John Houston. Abe Lincoln, Raymond Massey. Young Mr. Lincoln, Henry Fonda.

[@keithowen3523]

Best background for movie reactions ever.

[@JeffreyCantelope]

Lincoln was 56 when he was shot dead in Fords Theater. The Civil war was the the greatest conflict in US History based on total casualties and missing. The estimated numbers of dead, wounded and missing are 620,000 for both sides. Though some historic esitmates are much higher. The population accordng to the census of 1865 was 30,800,000. Therefore 2% of the population of the US. To provide the effect on the US, the population according to the 1860 Census was 31,441,321. If a simular confilct took place on US soil today the total casualties and missing would equal approx. 7,172,000. Almost equal to the population of Tennesee or 105% of the US's fourth largest city, Houston TX.

[@fsu1jreed]

I cried in the theater, the only time I've ever come close..ZERO FVCKS GIVEN

[@mikecarew8329]

What a beautiful reaction to a remarkable film. So heartwarming to see you care about our history from so far away. Washington was the indispensable man in our history (both as General and President) and served with a cohort of intellectual and visionary giants. But, Lincoln was probably the best president we've ever had. Beyond that, Americans will disagree on a best Presidents list due to ideological differences among us. And that's fine and in many ways how it should be. Lincoln was 55-56 during the events depicted in this film. Appomattox is where Lee finally surrendered / the war essentially ended. If you want a surface level but very entertaining overview of the history, you should check out Oversimplified's the US Civil War on KZbin. Like Oversimplified's other videos, it is generally very well done, if....oversimplified.

[@jameshutchinson568]

Such an outstanding movie, one of Spielberg's best.

[@nutterbuttergutter]

Jade, there is a highly underrated US civil war related film that came out in 2016 titled _Free State of Jones_ starring Matthew McConaughey. Well worth the watch.

[@chaosincarnate380]

Another good Civil War movie is Gettysburg. It's got a lower budget, but it's hella accurate and has an all star cast.

[@stonecoldku4161]

3:00 The Gettysburg Address is probably the speech that Lincoln is most known for. He gave the speech at the dedication of Gettysburg National Cemetary in November of 1863. The battle of Gettysburg which was the bloodiest and perhaps most important battle of the American Civil War had happened there a few months earlier on July 1st, 2nd and 3rd of 1863. Lincoln was not the featured speaker at the dedication, however. Former dean of Havard College and one of the best speakers of the time Edward Everett was the featured speaker and he spoke for over two hours before Lincoln. Lincoln's speech took just over two minutes. Everett would go on to say it took Lincoln only two minutes to say what I did in two hours out of respect for Lincoln's words. The entire speech is one of two of Lincoln's speeches that is carved on the wall of the Lincoln memorial in Washington DC. There is a movie called Gettysburg about the battle that I highly recommend and would be great for a reaction.

[@johncarr7452]

The other speech at the Memorial is his second inauguration address. Somebody once said that inaugural address can be divided into 3 categories, those made before broadcasting was invented, those made after broadcasting was invented, and those written by Lincoln which were in a class all by themselves.

[@ronbotello8513]

No apologies needed, your obviously a brilliant and very lovely young lady! Great reactions!

[@zmani4379]

Lovely reaction - Lincoln and the Civil War are a central part of the American Myth - Tony Kushner is a legendary playwright, whose magnum opus Angels in America ranks among the major works of American culture - his partnership w Spielberg is perhaps the most exciting collaboration in Hollywood now - together they've been probing the zeitgeist - West Side Story is their other masterwork - w Lincoln, they translate America into Shakespeare - another poetic war masterpiece is Thin Red Line - Mahabharata from Peter Brook is another epic work of theater and philosophy captured on film - another point about Lincoln - w a playwright like Kushner, you can be sure that his real subject is the current political landscape - I think the meaning of the whole film lies in the compass speech, and in the ideological poles between Lincoln, who represents Realpolitick, and Stevens, who represents Principles - and the film depicts their relationship as the dance between these two concepts over the course of a functioning democracy, and the process of governing Notice the respective positions of the Democrats and the Republicans - at the time, Republicans were a 3rd party, and Lincoln was their first elected president - at that time they were the party of racial inclusion, while the Democrats supported slavery and segregation - it was framed in terms of the conflict between federal authority vs the autonomy of each state - with the rising industrial North contending w the feudal aristocracy of the South, whose economy was based on agriculture and slave labor

[@mikealvarez2322]

Mary Todd Lincoln wasn't wrapped to tight to begin with. The death of their young son plus the assassination, which she witnessed sent her over the edge.

[@evilsponge6911]

"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right. Let us strive on to finish the work we are in to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan ~ to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

[@MovieJoob]

He was a beautiful wordsmith!! ❤️

[@RickSimmons-ej1pv]

Some information about Robert Lincoln, his oldest son. He lived well into old age, being president of the Pullman Company and served the national government as Secretary of War and later Ambassador to Great Britain. He died in 1926, the only one of four children of the Lincolns to outlive their parents. Tad was not as fortunate, dying of TB at the age of 18. Mary was later forcibly committed by her son Robert for a time in an asylum. Many historians today believe she may have been suffering from depression and possible bi-polar disorder. After a years stay, she later went to live with a sister and died in 1882 at the age of 63.

[@MovieJoob]

Oh that is horrible that Tad also died so young, I can imagine that would have definitely sent Mary over the edge regarding her grief and depression!

[@jackmessick2869]

There is a YT channel, Oversimplified, that has a two part episode on the American Civil War. It's well done with a sense of humor.

[@deweyoxburger295]

My family saw Lincoln at Fort Monroe.

[@harryrabbit2870]

Movies such as this help us remember that the great historical figures were, after all, just humans like ourselves, not separate from the travails of daily life but immersed in them, just as we are today. The stories of history are the stories of humanity and having seen where we have been, give us a hint as to where next to go.

[@MovieJoob]

Beautifully said!! Your words are gorgeous!!

[@MichaelSSmith-hs5pw]

Well Jade, you cried at 20:15 minutes this week. I missed “Jade’s crying bet” by six minutes. lol. That’s o.k. I won the last two weeks in a row. We love your channel, keep it going. I’ll let you know who wins next week’s “crying bet.”lol.👌😍💕

[@MovieJoob]

Hahaha hell yes please keep me updated I'm obsessed with your crying bet it makes my day 😂😭🙌❤️

[@haraldisdead]

I try to get to Thaddeus Stevens grave at least once a year. Just laid flowers there a month ago.

[@Salguine]

If you find yourself moved by this depiction of Abraham Lincoln, at some point you should find a good biography of him. I would recommend "Lincoln," by David Herbert Donald. It's an excellent single-volume biography that will give you a real, extraordinary picture of this remarkable man. I think you'll be glad you did.

[@slayman28]

This was filmed in my home town. Richmond, VA. I was an extra in several scenes. You can see me in a few shots.

[@ProtossWannabe1984]

Shot mostly in my hometown of Richmond, VA:)

[@DavidDeBoalt-ll1xv]

American freedom can often be complex and uncomfortable. As an example, l personally feel that the deseceation of the U.S. flag is despicable, but I would gladly stand up and defend the rights of those that choose to do so. America doesn't always get it right, but our system allows us to strive toward that end.

[@hando2980]

Please do the Prestige Next! Its so good and left me boggled for days

[@lingrensteve]

Great reaction! ❤😊

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much ❤️

[@dedcowbowee]

Great reaction! Thanks!🥰

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so very much!!

[@dizzynikki5912]

Great Reaction.. Thanks...

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you for watching!!

[@theroachden6195]

They married out of love. Mary Todd Lincoln was some what insifferable before their young son Willie died at 11 from illness. But Robert was their first born and she was insinuating Abe stayed because she got pregnant.

[@johnpearce5168]

Please consider watch the movie Tears of the Sun with Bruce Willisr or casualties of war with Michael J fox and Sean Penn

[@Pamtroy]

Poor Mary Todd Lincoln did end up in a mental hospital for awhile, after the assassination.

[@allanmolina5094]

One of my top 5 favorite Spielberg films

[@MovieJoob]

He's made a lot of incredible films and this one was utterly brilliant!

[@jeffsherk7056]

I think the Lincolns had four children. One son, Willie, died while Abraham Lincoln was in the White House. By FlubDub, Lincoln probably meant decorations for the White House. Mrs. Lincoln was in charge of the household, and congress used to complain about the money she spent on carpeting, wall paper, and new furniture for the White House. When the Lincoln's moved in, the place was a mess, with many pieces of furniture broken. I doubt anybody in congress was really against the redecoration of the White House, but they enjoyed making life difficult for President Lincoln, and he had enough to do without that particular political fight.

[@ErnestoMercer]

In your own time if you want to learn more about the Civil War in your own time, Ken Burns made the classic multi-part documentary, The Civil War. It will give you the context for this movie. Many reactors do Oversimplified’s The Civil War. It really is oversimplified but it will give you some context, it’s in two parts just less than an hour long. Consider it like the way you watched the Tolkein LOTR videos to flesh out the lore the movie didn’t tell you. By the way, George Washington served only two terms. It’s the precedent. Only one President, Franklin D. Roosevelt served four terms. Perhaps Lincoln would have served more than two terms, but even then it was not the norm, so re-election wasn’t his concern about the amendments. Also as stated I believe, Lincoln was largely self educated. He was from a dirt farm in the Midwest.

[@Ghoulstille]

Look up William "Boss" Tweed and you'll know everything you need to about "Petty Fogging Tammany Hall Huckster's" as the President so eloquently put it in his arguments to his staff as to why this amendment must pass.

[@Theomite]

The physical resemblance of Day-Lewis to Lincoln (in makeup) is unbelievable, which really helps sell the role. The first photo leaked of him in makeup looked like they'd brought the man himself back from the dead. The film is slightly hagiographic, overemphasizing Lincoln's beneficence. We have evidence that he wasn't personally in favor of racial equality, but he was willing to liberate slaves for the greater good of the nation. That said, the portrayal is still perhaps the most accurate depiction of the man. Lincoln was quite tall, even by today's standards--roughly 6'5"--which has led to suspicion of Marfans Syndrome. Unfortunately, the 13th Amendment was used to reactivate slavery in different forms. There's a documentary by Ava DuVernay called 13 which details post-Civil War use of the 13th Amendment to justify slavery through expanded penal legislation, which is one of the reasons the US prison population is so high. You can actually watch it for free on YT.

[@Michael.96]

Back in the days when politicians could actually speak in coherent sentences. 😂

[@gregbard]

Okay, I have to say you have my respect for digging into Glory and Lincoln. For more of the deep and serious type of film you may want to check out **12 Years a Slave*. But by now you have earned something much more enjoyable to watch, so *Django Unchained** is mandatory now!

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much!! I'm so glad you enjoyed!

[@MovieJoob]

I have actually watched 12 years a slave and I cried so hard throughout I had to keep pausing cause I couldn't hear over my own crying

[@johnpittsii7524]

Hi Jade hope you are having an great and awesome day ❤

[@MovieJoob]

Same to you as always John! ❤️

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much!

[@mikealvarez2322]

Lincoln was totally self-taught.

[@jostein8455]

You should watch The Pianist, a very moving film

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much for the suggestion!!

[@CP-pn8st]

Please watch Gettysburg

[@MrAitraining]

Yes. Gettysburg much better than this over hollywood messaging narrow movie

[@axr7149]

Such a fantastic film and movie reaction choice. Steven Spielberg and Tony Kushner have proven to be a fantastic writer/director team. I highly recommend checking out their other collaborations (MUNICH (2005), WEST SIDE STORY (2021 version), and THE FABELMANS (2022), all 3 being amazing (all are among my Top 6 favorite Spielberg films)). MUNICH in particular is jaw dropping in its visual storytelling. Daniel Day-Lewis became the first person ever to win Best Actor Oscar 3 times as a result of this film (this was his 3rd win).

[@MovieJoob]

Thank you so much for these awesome suggestions!!

[@MovieJoob]

I absolutely loved watching this film so I can imagine those will be up my alley too!!

[@erosson27]

I imagine they don't teach much of our history in your country. The American civil war is the bloodiest war ever fought by the United States of America.

[@Bensonders]

Wait a minute.. this isn't the vampire movie!! 😮

[@badbob6689]

Note the prties and who were for abolition and who was in support of slavery. In reality the parties are still fighting and have not changed their position.

[@lancewolf2451]

I like how mrs jolly talks politics with the Seward and Lincoln while mr jolly doesn't seem to know much....but, mrs jolly can't vote.