Lindsay Hoyle ‘bizarrely’ refuses to let Dianne Abbott speak | Dominic Sandbrook

“Being denied the opportunity to speak when she is at the centre of the controversy just is bizarre.”
Diane Abbott was “let down” by Lindsay Hoyle, after he refused to call on her in House of Commons, says Dominic Sandbrook and Hannah Betts on #TimesRadio.
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[@bigjohndavid1]

UK politics is collapsing into madness and gibberish... The situation is so bad it's as though there's something guiding it.

[@rebekahroyal2679]

Everyone of those politicians are guided by the puppet masters!!

[@themarkbishop]

Gaza is the final nail in coffin of our democracy

[@RoyalNorthern251]

Disgraceful and undemocratic. You don’t have to like her to afford her basic respect!

[@JupiterThunder]

Diane Abbott supported the IRA and openly called for the defeat and overthrow of the British state by t3rrorism. She is a far-left extremist tr41tor and is unfit to be an MP. She has never been a fit and proper person to be an MP. Clearly she did not take her MP's oath in good faith given her view on her own country. She should not be allowed to speak, ever, in our parliament, she should be expelled.

[@TheAArmstrong]

You earn respect

[@heycidskyja4668]

You earn respect - Diane Abbott is an overt racist and was suspended by the Labour Party for anti-semitic and anti-Irish racism.

[@danc4435]

@@TheAArmstrongshe earned it when elected by her constituents, no? What should she do to earn respect? Change skin colour or gender?

[@TheAArmstrong]

@@danc4435 Not be a race baiter with a chip on her shoulder

[@MA-rq4nu]

Remember when Hoyle was super worried about MP safety but ignores said MP when she's is racially abused and threatened to be shot. Man is a joke!

[@pedazodetorpedo]

Because he was actually protecting the Labour Party, and was doing the same when denying Diane Abbott a chance to speak

[@EileenHall-j9f]

Exactly, his hypocrisy is breathtaking.

[@zehrag3781]

Wake up! Hes the zionist stooge set up to take this position...ask the right questions ...why?

[@Uduwerage]

Sir Lindsay Hoyle has again demonstrated his inability to fulfil his role with ethics and integrity.

[@sassysteveartist]

This is an issue which affects us all. What was said about Dianne Abbot was racist, misogynistic and the very definition of hate speech inciting violence. The fact that she was not even allowed to speak makes a complete joke of our democracy. There is no excuse for this. Hoyle has gone from being an ineffective, compromised clown to an absolute disgrace. He must go.

[@user-zi4iu5lj6z]

Why can’t you just speak on an issue without talking about what you like and don’t like , doesn’t matter who it is, this is a hate crime and should not be tolerated.

[@SL-sd3sg]

Bloody rude. He should go!

[@TheLion-b3h]

This is a very small window into Diannes reality …..this has been going on for very a long time.

[@SharmanSomerset]

Hoyle is a disgrace, he shouldn’t be in the chair after the game he played with the SNP, let alone this!

[@julianshepherd2038]

Yes

[@SensitivityIsland]

Hoyle protecting Labour Party. Like a Tory. Fk me!

[@dogzero1]

@@SensitivityIsland he was protecting the government not the labour party you muppet.

[@hussainibnkawthar9398]

Isntt his dad one of the people who played a large role in setting up friends of israel organisation?

[@joachimAl]

Sir Lindsay Hoyle is complicit 💯

[@clintharper5509]

No way hoyle made that decision by himself, the man is a puppet.

[@jamessouth3808]

He’s got previous

[@davidgill8996]

They are all puppets. The billionaire corporations run every thing and politicians are paid to do as they are told. Thatcher was the end of British democracy. END OF.

[@gio-oz8gf]

@SilverbackMatt You need to provide evidence; otherwise, people will suspect you're saying that because you just don't like Starmer. Your problem is that you don't have any evidence, do you? Given that you made it up, how could you have?

[@tonyy452]

​@gio-oz8gf it's very plausible, given Starmer nobbled, or approached, the speaker to sabotage the SNP call for a ceasefire in Gaza. You claim the other commenter doesn't like Starmer. Do you actually like him and what he stands for? It seems quite reasonable to doubt Starmers (or any politicians) integrity to me.

[@malcolmmitchell6529]

You can see the strings!

[@spartacusforlife1508]

I wonder why Starmer, who has suspended her, gets to talk about the threats made to her but she isn't? I wonder if starmer had another meeting with the speaker?

[@adenwellsmith6908]

Wouldn't be surprising.

[@epincion]

Afterward Starmer supported her and her right to speak so it’s unlikely that he was involved

[@adenwellsmith6908]

And you believe him? @@epincion

[@spartacusforlife1508]

@@adenwellsmith6908 not one Labour M.p. stood up and said " let her speak" speaks volumes. They could easily have claimed a point of order to point it out

[@adenwellsmith6908]

Exactly. Now I don't like one bit. She's not up to the job. She got it because of her history with Corbyn, and that's just a variant of nepotism. But she should have been allowed to speak, and so should the donor, all under parliamentary rules. Or they have a debate outside, under the rules the peasants are subject to. @@spartacusforlife1508

[@Beherenow473]

This was disgraceful behaviour again from the speaker. Diane Abbot was being spoken about and they refused to allow her to speak. This is deliberately coerced by the speaker again. He must go.

[@johnwright9372]

It reflects horribly on the two main parties and Hoyle. Shame on them.

[@dorothyb.]

Disgusted with Lindsay Hoyle

[@tim59ism]

Why ? It was the right thing

[@heycidskyja4668]

Why? He did the right thing. Besides, parliament has more important things to discuss in the limited time they had.

[@carraw3501]

@@heycidskyja4668 People defending this and/or Hoyles other recent abuse of Commons procedure dont seem to realise just how serious a contribution to the polarising of opinion and feeling in current UK it is. This after claiming he acted to quell extremist behaviour last time.

[@heycidskyja4668]

@@carraw3501 The two incidents are entirely unrelated - it was FAR more serious that Hoyle perverted parliamentary proceedings to accommodate extremists. Diane Abbott just wanted to use valuable parliamentary time to complain about disobliging remarks that other parliamentarians would have taken in their stride.

[@Wee_Langside]

You have to ask yourself would you think the same if the remarks had affected an MP of a party you support. If you would then fine. This applies to the original comment and replies

[@egyptianlotus4179]

Hoyle needs to be sacked

[@andydudley1775]

he secured next years knighthood .

[@Jon-xw9om]

Gotta love all the mansplaining going on around her.

[@danielmaddox2734]

I’m not a fan of her at all but it’s very odd that she wasn’t allowed to speak in a debate about herself

[@trevorhart545]

She still wouldn't have understood or got it right. She is an embarassment that Sir K Starmer refuses to deal with.

[@burpeesandbeard232]

@@trevorhart545 demonstrating why your own insecurity is the main problem

[@kevinhay3778]

If this is u.k. politics we have lost the plot,😭😭😭😭😭😭☔

[@salehothman449]

Where have you been for the past five years?

[@kevinhay3778]

Cambodia!!

[@kerrynewnham8946]

BBC news has a video showing the 46 times she stood up. Watching it is surreal. Talk about the ultimate discrimination, or was it just unsavoury politics.

[@ragrag2063]

The government is bent.

[@hyperbole6529]

He is the speaker and not government.

[@louiseparker1915]

I’m a black woman. I’m not a massive fan of Dianne Abbott, but the woman has been treated in an appalling manner….and her race is definitely a factor for the terrible way she is treated by the general public and her peers.

[@magicanimalfish1029]

I suspect her racism and dumbness are also a factor....? 🤔

[@gawkthimm6030]

that Tory donor also mentioned wanting to shoot her, so threats of violence.

[@NairobiDino]

Is this what a Starmer Labour government will look like?

[@TEEJ.]

It's what a current Conservative government does look like.

[@tommyhughes2264]

Hoyle is in the pocket of Kid Strimmer.

[@smoozerish]

absolutely shocking what Hoyle did. Glad I left the UK 10 years ago. Looking from abroad you can really see how far the UK has fallen morally under the Tory rule.

[@jimthompson9370]

We sound lucky you’ve left.

[@ralphdavidson9542]

I agree, but I probably see it differently to you. The Tories are Lib Dems and Social Dems, hence the general state of things.

[@Rose-p7y4i]

Does Diane Abbott not deserve the same chance of forgiveness that sunak wants Hester to get? Seems waiting a year for your case to be investigated while others took 5 months is discriminatory to me. Where is her right for a hasty trial?

[@3108dd]

Hoyle is a Labour MP. Not Tory or government at all.

[@paulbird3235]

Tell me your secret were are you living now!.

[@javaidsaeed2401]

56 times she got up and was ignored.......show some respect to women......do they know her background? ......disgusting...shameful...and they preach equality.........this is the reality of the kind of people we pay for ......British politics is a sham.......

[@saudade2745]

They know she's a racist, yes

[@jamescooke6032]

Her background? I mean she's got removed from the labour party for racial comments and has form in this area.

[@javaidsaeed2401]

@@jamescooke6032 im sure we all have some kind of form in our closets........she was the first black woman to graduate at Cambridge.....she was also the first black woman member of Parliament......I say that deserves alot of respect....

[@saudade2745]

@@javaidsaeed2401 making excuses for racism

[@jamescooke6032]

@@javaidsaeed2401 she was the first black female mp. She was not the first black woman to graduate Cambridge. Diane abott herself has made loads of racist comments over the years, this is why she is suspended. Let alone all the gaffs over the years. What was said about her was crass and racist, but i don't think she's a particularly good mp.

[@robertstorey7476]

Hoyle has to go. It just doesn't know what he is doing.

[@kholebandz-gq9lh]

When people say they aren’t a fan, that’s irrelevant and keep that to yourself we are talking about racism not your fan-hood we are talking about racist life threatening abuse.

[@davidbarrett590]

Given the incident a few weeks regarding the various Gaza resolutions, one has to ask whether Hoyle is up to the job? By the way, I cannot see Diane's politics has anything to do with this - is it totally unacceptable for Diane Abbott's femininity and colour to be impugned........

[@adenwellsmith6908]

I agree. The problem is with her intellect. She's not up to the job.

[@goldenhourg]

You don’t have to like someone to affirm they’re a human being worthy of respect and safety

[@Paul-qs3nu]

Worst speaker in living memory, how can they be debating an issue that directly her but not allowed her to speak. I personally don't like Abbots views , but once again after the SNP issue it shows how desperate and guttless he is

[@Simon-zb6fp]

Amazing how people easily forget Bercow

[@Paul-qs3nu]

@@Simon-zb6fp yes l remember him , Hoyle worse, if he's stood down he knows he wont win as an MP in his constituency, that's why he'd appeasing labour. Firstly by not allowing the SNP vote which would have exposed labour divisions, then by refusing to let Abbott speak to save their embarrassment over her losing the whip. As l say gutless

[@markjohnston7869]

Hoyle has to go. He is one of the biggest dangers to democracy and now it seems to the safety of members who he denies a voice after she was threatened with being shot. Get the speaker out of parliament and in a police holding cell pending the outcome of an investigation into his corruption.

[@didboy74]

Hyperbolic tosh

[@markjohnston7869]

@@didboy74 Really? Explain.

[@fitblkpa]

Again it’s double speak here. She’s the first black woman in parliament, she has been a parliamentarian for almost 3 decades. She’s has stayed an MPs despite the abuse she’s suffered. But of course you are not called out for saying you don’t rate her as a politician. I guess in the interest of learning about unconscious bias. You should ask yourself again what she would have to do for you to rate her as a politician and see how many white or male politicians have achieved that. It’s so sad to see people quick to call out overt racism but in the same conversations employ what is at best micro-agressions (but what is in reality just racism)

[@3108dd]

Seriously...?! I could write you a long list of the disgraceful and indefensible things that she has said and the policies she has supported. At a very high level: pro IRA, anti Britain, pro Soviet Union, pro Jeremy Corbyn, anti police, pro criminals. She also is a serial offender for racist, generalising statements about white people. Eg "White people love to play divide and rule". Google it. No one should ever be "called out" for criticising her as a politician. Of course she should never be racially abused. No one should be. And of course she should have been allowed to speak yesterday. At a debate about comments that someone had made about her - which were undeniably racist. That should go without saying. And Lindsay Hoyle has serious questions to answer for ignoring her throughout. But your point above - that people who criticise Abbott as a politician are motivated by racism - is untrue and unacceptable. It is not remotely racist to criticise her politics. Nor is it misogynist. But she herself has claimed that throughout her career - anyone criticising me is a racist misogynist. It's a despicable lie and a horribly divisive tactic to shield herself from scrutiny of her awful policies. There are many valid reasons to thoroughly disagree with everything that Diane Abbott stands for. Her race and gender have nothing at all to do with that.

[@c9ckl]

Shockingly poor management of the situation.

[@pmurray776]

Why hasn't the individual who made these vile comments not been arrested!!!

[@gawkthimm6030]

he gave 10 million to the Tory party...

[@SafarazAli]

he must have been directed - absolute disgraceful

[@valerieelvertondixon2494]

I live in the United States, and I watch PMQs on KZbin. This is not the first time the Speaker has ignored a Black woman. I have commented on it before. After the absolutely shameful way Meghan Markle was treated by the BRF and the UK media, it seems misogynoir, hatred of Black women, exists in more than one UK institution. This makes me, an African-American women, less eager to spend my travel dollars in England.

[@AppleAirsoft]

Its not Bizarre, this country is a Klepto-fascist Oligarchy, it would damage both establishment controlled parties anti democratic aims if reality surrounding real extremist threats to MP's were to be shown.

[@petercumiskey2746]

Yes most of our Political parties are bought and paid for stooges for other countries you know who.

[@davidgill8996]

Absolutely correct.

[@adenwellsmith6908]

Where are the trillions the workers have paid the DWP for their old age?

[@TariqRahman-dt3hn]

Time for Hoyle to go. We need a Patriot with integrity.

[@bowda99]

It’s a shame she didn’t get a chance to speak the woman is normally comedy gold 😂😂

[@KathleenHammett-hr1gy]

Yeah, cos addressing racist violent abusive threats & a Tory donor saying she "should be shot" , is funny is it .. Well I suppose it is to the type who think like the ones that make those threats & dish out racist abuse ...

[@davelou1995]

So funny

[@jujutrini8412]

Not as funny as Helen Whately!

[@jujutrini8412]

Not as funny as Helen Whately and Thérèse Coffey!

[@polmcsuibhne7657]

he needs to resign .she had a right to talk i was waiting to hear her words...............but no .just shameful.

[@kristoffarrell6899]

We've run out time and patience with Hoyle

[@raymondwatson4134]

She should've been allowed to make a complete clown of herself .. !!!!!

[@robthomason1]

The bloke is in someone's pocket, for sure...

[@GrahamStubbs-u4m]

Isnt he supposed to be neutral?

[@gawkthimm6030]

what that means in practice is 'neutral in their conduct towards what the major parties leadership wants' - so a former labor MP who had the whip removed is ignored...

[@markjohnston7869]

What really needs to happen is that MP's who care about democracy and the function of the House need to make a very visible stand against Hoyle. What they should do is go to the Commons and as soon as Hoyle opens his mouth they should all stand and turn their backs on him and refuse to engage with him and keep doing this as long as needed till he gets the message and resigns.

[@LivingstoneThomas]

You have to look at what the Establishment is holding up, at the moment! where is the integrity and impartiality?

[@trevorhart545]

BLAME, Sir Keir Starmer and the Antisemitic attitude of Dianne Abbott, Jeremy Corbyn and Angela Rayner.

[@insultingmyintelligence6862]

Hoyle is a disgrace

[@patrickreade6119]

Did she want to get up to apoligies for her racist comments. Or is racism a one way street.

[@colinmassey527]

You can't spell apologize? 😂. She already did and was already punished - what's your point?

[@petersmith5811]

Hoyle is an incompetent fool at best! He clearly struggles with the task he has been given! It is no coincidence that the worst Speaker in living memory is in situ at the same time as the worst UK govt. in living memory! The sooner both are removed, the better!!

[@Bobmudu35UK]

I think Hoyle should have let her speak,and she has had unacceptable abuse for years. But to say she's had a long and distinguished career is laughable. She is utterly inept.

[@xavierhucklenbruch1798]

Bring back Bercow !!!!

[@petebee2541]

Hoyle's position is untenable and he has to go, though I did not want to hear anything from Abott anyway.

[@breadbreaker500]

Hoyle is having a bad run. Unfortunately his gaffes are too big to just continue. He needs to step down!

[@kdato774]

Inexcusable conduct by Hoyle, ignoring the person who this is all about.

[@gogosegaga]

At least she didn’t have to do her morning lunges!

[@ralphdavidson9542]

I suspect the squats were swerved too!

[@chrisperry3430]

He needs to go, today preferably

[@anthonystevenson9007]

She might spoil the nitwits chance of becoming the prime minister when she speaks maybe she is going to ask him if he can define what a woman is

[@david-pb4bi]

For once in her self-serving life, putting her children through private education, never doing her homework, but for this one time she deserved to have her say, oh the irony.

[@jujutrini8412]

Have you seen the likes of Helen Whately and Thérèse Coffey? Shining examples of MPs not doing their homework. And yet they do not get the same level of abuse that Diane does. I wonder what obvious difference there is between them?

[@david-pb4bi]

@@jujutrini8412 So what are you saying, we should all dumb down to the conservatives pathetic level?

[@juliemaltby9751]

Sorry but the speaker needs to go get him out

[@HelenWilson-bm1vv]

Hoyle does as he.s told.

[@deedrabbit]

£10 million will only get a few hundred millions. To get the biggest government contracts you need to go the extra yard and be full-on racist.

[@gregnorth6413]

Listening to Parliamentary debates these last few months, it would be nice if something positive for the UK and its economy and defence was debated.

[@paulmatters2641]

When money talks truth is silenced

[@paulbird3235]

Andy Pandy is waving goodbye-goodbye, yes it's time the puppet speaker waved goodbye and went on his way. Just give him what he want's, (his gong) and let him ride off into the sunset.

[@drsyn9616]

Nobody wants too hear Abbots voice anytime

[@bobscholey8312]

to

[@colinmassey527]

The whole point of the speaker is to remain neutral - he could continually proves he is nothing of the sort

[@gawkthimm6030]

what that means in practice is 'neutral in their conduct towards what the major parties leadership wants' - so a former labor MP who had the whip removed is ignored...

[@pietbokvanrensburg8131]

No we don't need to hear her voice. Defnitevely not. But she should be allowed to speak. There's a difference. 😎

[@gawkthimm6030]

its about ignoring the Female MP of color who was the whole subject of the debate being ignored the more than 50 times she stood up wanting attention and was ignored, www.parliament.uk/site-information/glossary/catching-the-speakers-eye/ also know as "bobbing"

[@salehothman449]

GENERAL ELECTIONS!

[@patmays7344]

The simple question? Why is Hoyle still speaker? He should NOT Be, in that position!

[@EileenHall-j9f]

Starmer and Sunak were both disgraceful as well. Both talking about her, whilst she was in the room. How dare they. What has Parliament become?

[@themarkbishop]

Also where’s Galloway question? Speaker is either under pressure or overreaching his position.

[@Sean22ei]

Hoyle is corrupted. But on the plus side dianne got some excercise.

[@NormTessTearoe]

Nasty, nasty! Your biases are showing

[@colinwood7020]

She had the Whip removed, even Labour don't want her.

[@Lord.two.a.penny.]

He deliberately ignored her. She was wearing a bright red jacket. So it can't be claimed that he didn't notice her. He is unfit to be The Speaker & should be removed from the role for the reputation of parliament.

[@suxcawks]

I think any opportunity we have to not have to listen to Dianne Abbott we should take. Super excited for her to not be selected and lose her seat at the next GE.

[@fuerchtenichts]

What a bunch of hypocrites

[@alamedealamede8471]

Hoyle prove that Abbott was right about black's discrimination in this country.

[@vincentbrannelly8786]

Hes paying the tory party back for recent misdemeanours . Hoyle is a disgrace to his office .

[@burpeesandbeard232]

Starmer he should be embarrassed by applying and demonstrating the very same hierarchy of racism he denies.

[@daquidi]

rules. lol. they only follow the rules when they benefit the establishment... when they don t they change them.

[@stephenhilling9910]

Diane was not called to speak by Hoyle because Starmer got to him again. She would have referenced the Forde report which Starmer has not acted on.

[@leighneal8989]

No we don’t

[@Matt_The_Hugenot]

The Commons majority wanted someone who would defer to the establishment and that's what they got. No one should be shocked when he acts exacts exactly how he is supposed to.

[@TonyAhwe]

I hardly understand Hoyle when he speaks with his thick accent

[@beachcomber1able]

Hoyle has to fall on his sword....ÑOW!

[@petefl1818]

UK democracy at work?

[@MartinSmith-qt3cc]

Such an obvious own goal I think he’s looking for way out.

[@baronessdebadassiere2289]

There is a term the treatment of Diane Abbott; misogynoir. Yes, it’s a real word and has a dictionary definition.

[@gos4343]

It is not “bizarre”, “weird” or a “mistake “it is intentional political manoeuvring. And the fact that none of you state this as THE most obvious explanation is quite the tell. There is a “gender aspect” for sure but there was a political agenda overriding the Speaker’s actions…..again. However there was an eagerness to repeat negative references to “her politics” nice and cosy for you all 🥰 even if off subject….not at all in keeping with the notion that chlorine is needed in the journalistic background pool.

[@rodsteele8513]

Hoyle dose what Starmer tells him to do.

[@Brellowcrop]

Keir Starmer's been black mailing him again

[@pamelahall9459]

Diane Abbott has been in politics too long. I can’t say one thing that she has actually contributed to that has benefited British people.

[@mariamorgan8447]

That woman loves the limelight which she doesn't get much of theses days. Ask her how she treats her staff 😂😂😂

[@Rose-p7y4i]

Does that mean she deserves to be shot? I recall a female and a male white politician was murdered . Making any statement for a politician to be shot is a haneous thing to do. Speaking as a black women I don't care if Hester hates us. I don't much care for men like him. But it is beyond the pale to treat a woman with such little respect as to talk about her in her presence and deny her the right to reply.

[@michaelc821]

Lindsey Hoyle time to go.

[@lugano1999]

Hoyle wants a peerage. That's why he does what he does and says what he says.

[@RUFF-UNIT]

Hoyle should go

[@obtuse1291]

Hoyle only doing his masters bidding.

[@NordieJ]

No, we don't need to hear Abbott. Ever.

[@jacklynewilliams5035]

But it is ok the things said about her and she cannot respond. Your just another racist

[@anthonystevenson9007]

Let her speak she is as smart as starmer let the people see what’s coming