Seems more than close enough to make up the difference with a slight upper mid boost and a touch of saturation in the box if the end goal is an SLO tone in a mix. The existing Soldano plugin (I think from Plugin Alliance) was extremely close too. Good stuff.
@Nicholas-Santiago6 ай бұрын
I really couldn't tell much of a difference. When isolated, I liked the sizzle of the real tube amp, but overall the Helix was maybe 5 or 10% more pleasing to my ears. Another reason I love my Helix :) It's got everything I need and plenty more!
@luca43526 ай бұрын
The real amp sounds a bit more open and a tiny bit more scooped, I guess the helix had the mids maybe a tad more up on the EQ. After all it's hard to match the knob settings of the real amp with the sliders of the modeler, so there might be some difference in the settings. I'd say you could add more mids on the real amp in the tonestack, but you could not add more sizzle on top of the helix via the tone stack. So I'd pick the real amp if money wasn't a factor!
@donniejean6 ай бұрын
I closed my eyes to listen and woke up the next day. Dig those speakers!
@sleepwait96136 ай бұрын
Very very small difference , slightly audible
@dariogrijalba6 ай бұрын
This has proved how powerful the helix is. I definitely love my HX Stomp! Great content. Congrats
@KipCount6 ай бұрын
Crazy, because I definitely preferred the openness of B. I sort of convinced myself that A must be the Stomp, because how could I possibly be preferring the modeling over the real amp. But there ya go, it's rarely a "which is better?" question, but a "which do you LIKE better?" question. Just got a Stomp XL a couple weeks ago and feeling pretty good about it.
@IamMusicNerd6 ай бұрын
It’s definitely close. I have spent days trying to get my digital modeling units (HX stomp, GT1000, QC) and they all get really close, but when I A/B them side by side with my real Soldano head, it’s still a noticeable difference. The real amp has a lot more low end clarity, and a more 3D sound in the room. But that doesn’t come through in a recording, so it doesn’t matter to most listeners. The only device I’ve ever found that gets super close is the Synergy SLO preamp, which makes sense since that unit is tube based rather than digital, and Mike Soldano himself designed the Synergy SLO unit. But most of the digital units get you close enough that you won’t tell in a mix. It’s more noticeable when you’re playing them side by side in the same room. (more of a feel difference)
@fivefingerfullprice34034 ай бұрын
>The real amp has a lot more low end clarity, and a more 3D sound in the room. What you're talking about is the dynamic range coming from being close to a guitar cab. 0.01% of people listen to that, most music people listen to is recorded so it doesn't matter.
@jcmmnx6 ай бұрын
That was closer than I thought it would be considering the SLO 100 was a launch model for Helix.
@msi19856 ай бұрын
You did a great job dialing in the helix. I listened to the entire demo eyes closed and tried to "guess" when the real vs. helix switched and couldn't tell!
@marcricos6 ай бұрын
Isolated I think I prefer the real amp, and I like more how it responds in the low mid area (I'm being almost psychotic here), but man in the mix I preferred the Helix. The reality is that, sadly, the only thing that makes the real amp better is the feel when playing it. Hearing it, it makes you wonder what's the future of real tube amps...
@jaredt39856 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying this for a while. In a mix, or a live situation, there’s no difference. I’ve been mixing guitar based music long enough to know that. Many, and I mean many times, very experienced tube amp purists haven’t been able to differentiate in a blind A/B comparison. But, the “feel” of a tube amp is a real and tangible thing. Is that feel worth what a high end tube amp costs? That’s up to the consumer.
@tete18056 ай бұрын
Crazy, right? I did prefer B in the mix but A isolated. B sounds slightly muddy isolated but sits well in the mix and feels like a bigger low end. A has more bite isolated but feels a bit less clear in the mix.
@picksalot16 ай бұрын
They both sounded good, very similar, and I couldn't even hazard a guess which was which in the blind tests. But, when I could see the units identified, I did hear something I "fixed" on my listening setup with my HX Stomp. I listen/play through Monitoring Headphones. I take the Left and Right outputs of the HX Stomp and run them into separate Channel Strips on my Hardware DAW. Then I "Hard Pan" one Strip left and the other right. The result is a wider sound stage that I much prefer with headphones, and what I think I noticed in the Blind Test. Thanks
@leavingsoulsBO6 ай бұрын
This video made me want to revisit it. When I got the HX Stomp it was my go to amp since it felt like a direct port from the Pod HD I played until then but I've since moved on to other models. Still it sounds amazing and close to the real thing from what I hear
@jakestewartmusic6 ай бұрын
The Soldano has more upper midrange presence and top end sizzle to my ear, but the Helix still has a lot of the character in there. Great work John! All 3 SLO models in the Helix are some of my favorite amp models in Helix to this day. The Crunch channel (the amp model and the real amp channel) is super underrated. By the way, running the Master low on the Helix was definitely the right move - that was a gamechanger revelation for me in getting the Helix models to have more 'air' and sizzle in the highs. Prevailing wisdom on the SLO is that is opens up around 6 on the master volume, but this just makes the Helix sound too tubby ime. For anyone trying to get this model to work for them, don't be afraid to run the Master lower than you might on other models and compensate with the Channel Volume.
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
The master control can be so powerful!
@void_snw6 ай бұрын
TBH, the more I mess around with my HX Stomp, the more I feel like the true weakness is driven power amp simulation. Considering how it's more complex with reactive impedance and all that, I'm not surprised. And really it doesn't seem to make a huge difference in most cases. Sounds pretty damn sick after all :')
@electricmeatpuppet6 ай бұрын
Yep I totally agree with the sentiment here as a Helix user for several years now in regards to the poweramp and master control settings 100%. It's the one thing that never really responds accurately, which isn't a surprise. ( I say that as a Helix lover) I've almost always fond that lowering that master volume yields better results without it getting incredibly flubby. Even models like the Moon amps (prob my most used) where the master and poweramp distortion is a big deal, you still run into this quirk imo. It's also the one thing that seems to define the slight lack of bite to the attack or feeling of body to some sounds. In all though, sounds fantastic...
@jakestewartmusic6 ай бұрын
@@void_snw Right, the Master control on most amp models can really change the tone, and more isn't always better! On certain models, having the Master too high can accentuate some lower midrange 'flub' frequencies and shave off sizzle/presence/air. I don't think this is exclusive to Helix at all though, I hear this effect in shootouts with the QC all the time. I'm no expert, but I suspect you're right though that there's something about the impedance curve and the modeled interaction between virtual power amp and speaker that causes these things. I'm firmly a modeling fan however, I don't find these small differences matter that much in musical contexts and I genuinely think this stuff is the future and will only get better. I care less and less about the models being 'accurate recreations' and moreso care if the sounds themselves are interesting, inspiring, interactive, and sit within a ballpark of the history of recorded guitar tones. Don't care if it sounds exactly like the real thing, just that it sounds at least as good as it to my ears. John said it well that it doesn't sound exactly like the SLO, but basically sounds like a different version of the same kind of vibe.
@rd_rae6 ай бұрын
I guessed exactly opposite bc B sounded better to me in the mix. Isolated I could hear that A had the more raw character, as you said, which did give it something. So kudos to Helix I assume 😊
@robertdonosobuchner31296 ай бұрын
I was surprised that B wasn't the real amp... Both sound very close. I like to have a bit more low-end in the sound...so I would adjust the eq anyway...
@Massimo-Piras6 ай бұрын
I haven't been able to tell the differences honestly, congratulations for the great sounds you can get out of this machines.
@MrVyrtuoso6 ай бұрын
I'll take the Helix. Can't put the SLO parameters on controllers for variable modulation or snapshots for toggling different variant settings. And in the mix they were near identical. Also, in isolation, the Helix was already where I'd still try to dial in the sound of the real amp w/outboard EQ.
@BillVerdon6 ай бұрын
I couldn't really tell the difference.... in the mix I thought I could.... but when you did the iso tracks... nope... couldn't tell. Impressive
@benbrandt36 ай бұрын
So close I'd have to go with the HX at a fraction of the price.
@Frankentoane6 ай бұрын
Wow, i was wrong. I typically guess that the brighter tone during amp vs modeler shootouts, is the modeler.
@djentlover6 ай бұрын
Fascinating! I like where the real amp sits in the mix. More in the low mids than in the high mids, as with the helix. Would be interesting to hear the helix with eq matching to the real thing. Since people who can't afford the real thing, would most likely take care of the pokiness and other things with an eq, to make it sound the best it can.
@Jonw82226 ай бұрын
Never thought I'd say this but in this specific example, I preferred the Helix (B).. it's hard to put it into words, other than to say it sounded more mellow to me and I preferred that for these specific riffs. I'm talking about the treble or upper mids I guess. They both sounded good in terms of sounding real or whatever. It was just an EQ preference for these riffs. I generally prefer brighter or more scooped sounds, sharper sounds.. just not in this case. Overall.. I love Soldano amps. I especially the idea of building or tweaking clones. I like to float between Soldano and the Dual Recs.. and like to have switches to get both sounds. It's nice to know there are some decent Soldano sounds in the digital world. With guitar in hand, I probably would have preferred the feel of the real amp but hearing the recordings.. both sounded good. Also playing through a cab, I probably would have preferred a real amp, but using IR equalizes things a bit.
@becominghuman35616 ай бұрын
They both sound good. I like how the Helix is sitting with the kick. Sounds heavy and thick.
@jacobseal6 ай бұрын
Great job. Based on your description before I was able to pick B as the Helix. It sounds more mids forward. Both sound great.
@cmd_f56 ай бұрын
It's pretty close, but I like the real SLO30 more as well. Just a bit nicer mids and top end. Also the lows are a little slower on the chugs, which works better for this demo track. Awesome comparison. .
@paulschlachter43136 ай бұрын
There is a more scooped SLO version with depth control in the Helix: Revv Gen Purple.
@davidfite19785 ай бұрын
I'm not a tone snob in any way... just giving it a general listen, I couldn't even tell when the amps switched. Both sounded great.
@AkiraSpectrum6 ай бұрын
great video as always, can't wait for the other modelers to see how they do!
@TSBII6 ай бұрын
To the average passive listener it will always be about the music (and your music is great here as usual), not the slight differences in sound from one amp or model to the other.
@jmaaybraak6 ай бұрын
I honestly preferred "B" pre-knowledge of which is which. It sounded a bit cleaner and brighter than "A" which is what I personally prefer.
@mrchrisbeaver6 ай бұрын
I prefered the Helix here, probably because i like top end and the amp seemed a bit lacking in high end
@NasserSharaf6 ай бұрын
Wow much closer than I expected. I guessed the Soldano was A as I felt I heard more string separation and that characteristic mid growl the real amp has - just a little more aggressive and angrier, which I love. Also a little more depth in A. For me the real difference though is not as much sonically but more the feel and the response of each.. and which inspires your playing more.
@michaelsavides88566 ай бұрын
Before the reveal, i believe A was the amp. B was the sim. Let's goooo! I was correct. But so so close! No shame on that helix!!🔥
@tuomaspietinen14856 ай бұрын
Well they do sound very alike indeed! I hear a slight "wider" stereo image in the Soldano sounds...slightly more narrow in HX Stomp. But could not tell that in the middle of the mix!
@progpogs6 ай бұрын
As soon as it started on A I was like I don't care if this is the Helix or what, but it sounds disgustingly good.
@electricmeatpuppet6 ай бұрын
Amazing comparison video as always. The SLO always have such a cool aggressiveness to them. If you turn the screen off, you can barely tell when you change amps, especially if you consider that people will often change tones between some sections of songs as well... If anything the Helix lacks a little body and attack, but I always find this (poweramp thing I believe). One thing I still don't understand is why all of the modelers (and modeling amps) seem to always have this more hyped freq response in both the higher and low end. Not a real gripe, as it's easier to take away than add something that isn't there... but it's been an observation over the years. Model T comparison next? ;) ;) Make sure you give a good compare of those master levels in action... hehe ( I know comparing different settings would be more time consuming)
@gerrydaly54096 ай бұрын
Great tones, thanks for sharing your Helix settings
@ConstantineM6 ай бұрын
Hell yeah! I overlooked this amp for some reason. It's great.
@patoloco95166 ай бұрын
I think... I love amp sims. Each one of them. Since POD Farm to the most new. Amp sim + IR (Ownhammer, of course 😉) + EQ = The glory. (sorry for my english, I'm from Argentina)
@LonelyRocker6 ай бұрын
Obvious differences aside...different modeled amp and digital vs. real amp...it's amazing to hear the similar characteristics in the Helix Model...interesting!
@SteveSterlacci6 ай бұрын
Came for the comparison, stayed for the millenium falcon shirt
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
Love that shirt!
@srdjanbosnjak74136 ай бұрын
I was not into any guess work,but liked tone A more from the begenining and I am kind of glad its the real amp.Nevertheless glorious sounds!!!
@flaviosozigam7716 ай бұрын
HX Stomp is a killer tool! Master, please give your opinion about which amp and cab processor used with analog pedals has a better result. Tks
@BillHesse6 ай бұрын
I could tell the one with more high end and a mid cut was the helix. That seems to be a footprint they leave behind. Each modeler seems to for that matter.
@tobiasryan83786 ай бұрын
Awesome song and great comparison!
@RolandMaj76 ай бұрын
It is not my favorite sound too, but I was right that the A is the real amp. Real amps in comparison to sims sound darker, which is more pleasant to listen for prolonged time, but that is personal for me. The simulation is like already full of everything, but that brighter addition/difference it has, probably around 1kHz or 5kHz, is so constantly present, it doesn't change its nature based on where you play on the guitar and it feels like it is masking more important parts of the sound.
@donniejean6 ай бұрын
I prefer darker as well.
@lylaznboi016 ай бұрын
A is real while B is the Helix. My guess is because the amp feels a bit looser while the modeler sounds tighter in the low end. The characteristics are similar, but also different factors between what's in this current Soldano amp vs the modeler. In a mix, both of them sounds great. If you can afford an actual Soldano, fucking do it. If you can't but still want that Soldano sound, plugins nowadays are getting closer and closer to the real thing and the major amp sim companies have a Soldano modeler.
@armandomontanez85116 ай бұрын
Thoughts from blind listening: A sounds a little scooped and much tighter. It leaves some empty space in the mix, which I haven't decided if I like. B sounds stuffy, loose, and washes out in the mix. If you wanted to fill out space, it'd be the better pick. I like the sound of A more than B in isolation, but in a mix it doesn't seem like the choice is so obvious. Very close overall though.
@shino88206 ай бұрын
Listening to the comparison, there seems to be a significant difference in headroom, but the Helix is also pretty close! (using a translator, so sorry if my English is weird)
@lorenmorgan19315 ай бұрын
Toss some upwards expansion on the Helix, and it would be a lot harder to tell the difference between the two of them. I have to say that for a cheap box that can model just about anything, if it were live in a loud mix, no one would ever know the difference, because both would be compressed to death at the end of the live mix anyways.
@remy3336 ай бұрын
You should still watch the video because there’s useful information and opinions on the gear, but for those looking for the short answer: Yes, the Helix can do the SLO tone very well, but to be truly 1:1 will need a slight 2500-3200 boost in the upper midsection and some mild additional saturation in your mix. The end results are indistinguishable from each other to most ears.
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
The answer is also subjective. Everyone probably feels differently about this since we all hear things differently.
@remy3336 ай бұрын
@@SonicDriveStudio I totally agree if we’re only using our ears, and not measuring the output waves with a spectrum analyzer. But if you’re truly trying to match the amp to the Helix modeling based on the output, the helix will sound and look (on the analyzer) nearly identical with the slight upper mid boost and some added saturation or very mild harmonic distortion to add more density to the waveforms. I love your videos. You’re extremely good at dialing in similar tones with your ears alone. So while agree that we all have different ears, some of us (you) are really talented when it comes to matching by ear. Some others need to use reference and analysis tooling to ensure the waves are truly matched or as close as possible. You can compare the differences by using the Fourier transform and some subtractive math. Once the leftover signal is nearly non-existent, it will guarantee a true audible match. No ears needed. A completely deaf person can achieve it. Luckily for us, our ears work.. but it’s often nice to analyze and prove to ourselves that our ears are accurate. Or to some maybe the exactness of the match isn’t as important as just getting a close enough vibe. I think the Helix sounds more like a real amp than the plugin did to me.. but I’m not sure what amount of that is from chosen IRs etc.. Decades ago, I heard an amazing early 80s model JCM-800 with some special tube converters or modifiers of some sort. I believe they were called “Yellow Jackets” or similar. Somehow they made a Marshall 800 sound exactly like an SLO-100. Would love to find those some day, but these smaller Soldanos seem worthy of a purchase for studio use. If you don’t mind me asking, what drum software instrument to you do your drum midi with? 🍻
@okaight72486 ай бұрын
They both sound close, but I think A is the amp. It's more controlled and less blown out sounding. I feel like I heard the biggest difference in chords.
@celestialode6 ай бұрын
both sounded killer
@CorrosiveMatter6 ай бұрын
I like the scoop a bit better on the real amp but in a mix it was hard to even know when you switched if not looking.
@callenmcclusky43836 ай бұрын
A cut through a little better in mix I thought was more rounded and clear had a bit of a more full range I’m going to say that was the tube amp and B was the helix both did sound real close though
@djguzzy106 ай бұрын
really cant tell a diff since its distortion of the same amp. but both sound incredible. so thats whats important
@le0_fx6 ай бұрын
Nice, could tell amp and helix apart through my phones speakers, but more by prejudice than knowledge. Heard difference in a more sizzely quality and some more composed midrange and guessed correctly - a is amp and b is helix. I'm kinda proud tbh 🙃💩
@Mr_Woodchuck6 ай бұрын
My guess would be A is the real SLO because of the bass response, but I would need to hear isolated tracks since the presence is typically the dead giveaway.
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
Isolated tracks are in the video as well
@Mr_Woodchuck6 ай бұрын
@@SonicDriveStudio thanks, I wrote this comment before seeing the reveal :). Once I heard the isolated tracks it was definitely even easier to tell. Great video.
@Jaxisagod56 ай бұрын
Nice! Wish you would develop presets for the fractal and sell them!
@IKilledTheDodo6 ай бұрын
I think A was Helix and B was the real amp. Don’t know why exactly, but B sounded more like how I imagine a real amp, while A sounded more like the plugin/modeler sound I’m used to.
@BSPotter6 ай бұрын
I thought, before watching the results, that A was the real amp based on where you have the presence knob set. my SLO100 needs the presence turned up pretty high to sound similar to this helix tone.
@adambriggs50532 ай бұрын
Man… the first time it switched from A to B I thought “oooo I like how it opened”. Then as the demo went on I started to think “oh crap. I think B is the Helix and I’m supposed to like A.” It is what it is I guess.
@bryang92906 ай бұрын
Pausing it at 5:04, man the difference is microscopic. I'm listening on Kali monitors and maybe by a hair I can hear a difference but it really doesn't matter. I think A is the Soldano amp but I wouldn't bet any money on the that. The Line 6 sounds really good which ever one it is lol, they've come a long way since the Spider 2.
@bryang92906 ай бұрын
I can hear a little more difference in the isolated tracks and do like the Soldano better but not $3000 better, the Line 6 still sounds great and in the mix there is no clear winner, they're both great.
@AR-ld8qd6 ай бұрын
Isolated, I prefer the amp but in the mix the Helix model sat perfectly! More importantly how is the feel of the helix in comparison to the amp?
@kornelwav6 ай бұрын
I hear slight bass difference, I chose A for SLO 30, B for Line 6 ... and scored :)
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
Good ears!
@ajlbeer5 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this. I guessed correct, but with a strong emphasis on *guess* because I sincerely could not tell :o Please tell me, was the amp more responsive? Do you feel a difference when actually playing? I always wonder about the latency of the FX stomp compared to real amps.
@gummo1336 ай бұрын
IMO all the helix models are a little congested in the the lower mids. I almost always drop 250 hz down just a bit with an eq pedal.
@alexandrevalente999416 күн бұрын
Great demo but i think while recording and compressing the record for KZbin, it lost the sound details. For me no difference at all to my ears. I was listening to an iPad from 2018.
@tractorgt6 ай бұрын
Cool stuff! Would have liked to have seen a few more modelers that do the slo. I have the headrush and think it's model is awful lol.
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
I will do more modelers
@deepghetto89686 ай бұрын
I need those isolated guitars for the blind comparison John! The other instruments cloud the mix. Did you stop doing those?
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
I did not, watch the full video :)
@mkbmkbmkb6 ай бұрын
Both sounded great. For months I used that model in the Helix as my main sound with my 90s rock cover band but always found something strange about the top end that I couldn't fix with any amount of EQ'ing or IR swapping. Ended up switching to the Friedman models and never looked back.
@-Christoph6 ай бұрын
My guess: A = real amp, B = Helix. Edit: Hah! I was right. The Helix always sounds a little dry and there is no way to get a proper wet sounding overdrive. I tried virtually everything, from various EQ settings to custom IR's. Nothing really worked, so I sold mine and bought another modeller. 🙂
@JamesFlorio-ti8gc6 ай бұрын
What i took from this is...HX is how old niw and yet the tones are killer 🔥 i cannot give a tube amp any justice to buy these days. Coming from a ex tube snob lol
@VForsaken6 ай бұрын
LOL! I was totally sure that Helix is clip A. And clip B sounds more real and kinda 'expensive' in the mix 😂
@marshall55606 ай бұрын
okay maybe i'm wrong, but i'm damn sure B is the real soldano, because there's really pronounced twang in the upper midrange which i also noticed watching the review of the amp, and also midrange is overall really complex and "three-dimentional", A is a bit dull in comparison
@marshall55606 ай бұрын
whoa, gotta say helix is nuts in the mix, really didn't expect that, but when soloed you really can hear soldano shine (also it seems logical that new soldano is more flat in the midrange because of this v30 thing)
@aposven98036 ай бұрын
Hi, Did you do double tracking in real life or did you use a double tracking plugin for these sound samples?
@soundhealer86616 ай бұрын
I'm surprised I thought A was the Helix and B was the amp. Anyhow I prefer A but the 2 would complete each other perfectly with quad tracking.
@bestboy8976 ай бұрын
the difference is non existent in the mix but it is definitely noticeable when isolated but only slightly. HX stomp sounded a bit flubby but very slightly.
@EmaDaCuz6 ай бұрын
Long time HX Stomp user, I could immediately tell the real amp from the modeler. The Stomp, and all Helix products for that matter, are mushy and lack attack, and the high mids are either pokey or blunt, depending on the amp. Real amp wins for me, but I honestly don’t care and keep using amp sims and modelers for recording and gigging. The difference is minimal, not worth the price difference in my opinion. And after years and years of lugging around heads and cabs, or finding the right spot for the microphone when recording, I’m not going back to real amps.
@danjobee6 ай бұрын
I thought the real amp sounded a bit more open while the helix sounded a bit more compressed. Overall i prefer the tone of the real amp, though the helix sounds a bit nore 'tidy' and forward in the mix.
@KiltedTupiniquin6 ай бұрын
For my ears they are almost the same. There are some slightly difference but I can't describe where in the spectrum.
@ChrisXTophe6 ай бұрын
B had a little bit more bite on single notes
@sinquestsound6 ай бұрын
Real Amp better dynamic and more open bright top end, also IMO a bit diff voicing between Amp and Helix. Prefered more Real Amp in this case. Another thing is how both react on eq in a mix on limiter in a master chain etc... Its all about this small but important things.
@SergioCzerweny6 ай бұрын
Despite of the recorded sound: Just yesterday I plugged in my old trusty Home made SLO clone. Now, compared to my hd500x may sound close, but the feeling, the way the amp interacts to your playstyle and fingers (even at vol level 2) has no point of comparison. So, for recording, yes. For real life still prefer real emotions, real feel. Only who have played a real tube amp with a real cab (mine is a first edition 4x12 5150 slant) can understand the difference. Tone wise, with the evolution of amp sims, not much difference. But the emotion isn't there.
@Anvismi6 ай бұрын
A - tube B - HX :)
@Andreas_Straub6 ай бұрын
Both were REALLY close. So absolutely No reason to buy the real very expensive amp 😎
@hejter46286 ай бұрын
A sounds better on lap top speakers,so i go A for the amp.
@dave56556 ай бұрын
There isn’t a “better” because they are so close. They’re slightly different. Is that difference with the cost difference? No.
@JonOden6 ай бұрын
They were so close in the mix it doesn't even matter.
@user-vr9mk6hv9k6 ай бұрын
The real amp sounds 3D, whereas the modeler sounds flat, if that makes any sense.
@KreativeDevices6 ай бұрын
🔥
@axcellgrease3 күн бұрын
Low mids were a bit fuller on the Helix. I thought for sure it was the real amp. Been playing for 50+ years. Maybe m ears are getting old.
@joeambly68076 ай бұрын
Funny how some people prefer the helix. To me the helix sounds less open and dynamic
@Millo18686 ай бұрын
Aa usual, the real amp sounds more defined, better articulation and much easier to listen to. However, I think they're close, of course.
@Margilio51506 ай бұрын
In my headphones they’re extremely close, If I’m gigging and I have the possibility to use a 4x12, I would chose the real amp
@davomoena6 ай бұрын
B sounds great but has an ugly top end compared to A (cleaner top end). What interface are you using to record through native helix? I think that with a better pre and converter the sound in helix can be better.
@SonicDriveStudio6 ай бұрын
Same interface as the real amp
@davomoena6 ай бұрын
Yeah but I mean where’s the guitar going first. Guitar to soldano amp / Guitar to pre - Helix Native
@chicoclint6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing A is amp and B is Helix...
@purpleirony6 ай бұрын
It was clear to me that A was the real amp. That was also my favorite tone, by far. Listen to the low end and low mid growl and presence, as well as the higher headroom and softer high end: these are always telltale signs and no modeler has nailed this yet. They are close to the real amp and are definitely usable, but have clearly hit some kind of plateau as all modelers have the same shortcomings. In this comparison, I suspect many people prefer the Helix because it is more "mix ready" as in the above mentioned pleasant low end is not as prevalent, which makes it sit better in the mix without running additional EQ on the console. But as is always the case, use the gear that inspires you! That's all that should matter to you!
@lyricbread6 ай бұрын
They sound close enough. The demo is giving me “Mayonnaise” vibes.
@stolenlaptop6 ай бұрын
A is better than b don't know what's what but it's the one I like. Edit, always disappoints me when I pick the real amp.
@tomi15372 ай бұрын
if you could have eq-d the soldano better - they wouldn't sound the same
@GabK76 ай бұрын
Palm mutes don't lie, I immediately spotted the real amp as soon as you played a couple palm mutes.