Lipedema with Dr. Ben Bikman

[@SharrellKline]

Success story: I learned I have lipedema a year ago at age 63. It began developing at age 13 in my thighs and upper arms. It progressed down through my limbs, and my ankles began cuffing in my thirties. By the time I was diagnosed last year it had reached my wrists. I started on the carnivore diet a year ago and have lost 70 lb. I do not say this lightly as I am a raging sugar and carb addict and fight cravings every single day. That may be the case forever. I went from a size 18 to a size 2, so you can get smaller. But my upper arms, thighs, and calves are still larger in comparison to the rest of me. Surgery is not an option as I am retired outside the US and cannot afford it. I will be managing it through diet, exercise including in the pool, and compression. I just want to share with others that carnivore has really made a difference. The aches and shooting pains are gone and the hideous constant bruising. I hope someday there is a way to soften the nodules but I know that I will probably always have the bags of nodules hanging from my upper arms, inner thighs, and the back of my calves.

[@miriam2909]

I’m so happy for you. ❤❤❤ I think carnivore is absolutely the way forward for you.😊😊

[@benbikman]

Thanks for sharing your experience with this.

[@sandraweber]

This is amazing!!! Such an encouraging outcome for others going through this experience.

[@evakuhlbornefelt34]

FSM (frequency specific microcurrent) may be able to break the stubborn tissue nodules down.

[@kzp5249]

That is wonderful to hear. Did you have weight loss from the onset of going carnivore? Do you have any other health conditions like diabetes?

[@sandraweber]

As a massage therapist, this episode has me acting like a kid a Christmas!!!!! So many of my clients are suffering terrible pain due to this and other tissue pathologies!!! Thank you for all your work!!!

[@SueWoledge]

Yes! Another massage therapist here and I’m the same!

[@catherined7607]

me too - RMT for 28 years and a Vodder trained manual lymph drainage/complete decongestive therapist (MLD/CDT) for that entire time. This has been a completely ignored condition for most of my career. It is epic that there is an entire video on it now. Progress is being made 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@cherylschumaker1366]

Most Dr won't acknowledge it...sad to say and know ..seems the Natural healers are more advanced and leaders in knowing how the human body works..

[@monnoo8221]

your patients need to combine your deep tissue lymph drain massage with fascia oriented stretching and isometrics, in order to get the lymph glowing

[@UncleDavesKitchen]

so happy you saw this, hope you can work your magic on your clients in a new way now

[@ItalianGoneCarnivore]

Thank you for posting this, Dr Bikman. I have Lipedema and I went very low carb for ten months, then meat and eggs carnivore for two years (and counting).. I am down 198 lbs and no longer have pain in my fat! I have way less swelling, if any, and am doing great. Weight loss is critical for aiding in alleviating the nasty pain and swelling of Lipedema. I may have deflated balloons for legs.. but I am without pain and healthy! Thank God!

[@benbikman]

Good for you. Thanks for sharing.

[@cherylschumaker1366]

Bless your strength keep going on !!

[@ItalianGoneCarnivore]

@cherylschumaker1366 amen, and I do plan on it, by God's grace!

[@JackieBrown-h8i]

@italianGoneCarnivore I cried all the way thru the podcast with Kelly/My zero carbon life. I had been praying the morning asking for answers and the email with the video showed up that day (7 days after it was aired). No coincidence. I hope one day I might get to talk to you and I hope I will have a good report to share.

[@eneecie]

My pain and bruising are gone! I don’t know how to get this message out there. I found I have lipedema in late January after over two decades of not having any success losing weight. I was already carnivore, fasting, and exercising. The most effective therapy I have found is a massage gun. When I first used the massage gun I had it on the lowest setting and everywhere it touched it would leave a bruise. This didn’t surprise me because someone just lightly touching on my arm would often leave a thumb mark. But despite the bruising, it felt a little better. So I got a little more aggressive. I got a lot of bruises but they would fade very quickly. But the pain was reducing as well. Long story short, after a month or so the pain was gone, my skin was softer, and weirdly the bruising stopped. I can now set the massage gun to the highest setting, push it into my skin, and not bruise. I have not lost a lot of weight (only about 10 pounds) but I have lost a lot of inches. My upper arms alone have gone from 16 inches to 13 inches. I went from size 16 jeans which I have worn for 20+ years to size 14 in less than two months. I am not sure if the massage gun is breaking up the nodules but it is definitely reducing the edema. I definitely think there needs to be more research into this therapy.

[@azsunburns]

How interesting! How often are you using the gun and for how long? I have one but I generally just use it for pain

[@eneecie]

@@azsunburns I try to use the massager daily. How long I spend, depends on how much time I have. I started out with long sessions that were 45 to an hour. As I am accepting the fact that this is not a quick fix, I am experimenting with how much is the minimum. Anyway, the pain and bruising were gone after about four weeks.

[@azsunburns]

@@eneecie very interesting, thank you!!

[@JessMN1974]

I'm in several lipedema groups and while I'm glad this is working for you I will tell you that there are a lot of women who have tried things like massage guns and fascia blasters who ended up making their lipedema worse.

[@murphfouro1792]

Add Fascia blasting, you’ll be amazed!!!!! And you’ll feel amazing!!

[@lauristandley4359]

I have been carnivore for nearly 3 years. I am down 94 pounds. I have also done a 3-day fast and a 4-day fast within the last month to see if it helps in the reduction of my lipedema. I am only about 20 pounds from a weight that I can live with (although I’m okay with where I am now). I am much smaller and can even wear a medium size pant, but my legs and arms will always be bigger. The pain has been severe, but getting off sugar (all carbs) have given me much relief. I am 71 and going strong. Thank you, Dr.Bikman. It helps so much for women to know this is really not their fault. I know because I have literally starved myself in the past (which led to binging) to no avail.

[@lynnemilazzo3904]

Hello... I am just about to turn 70, and have been struggling with lipedema since puberty... I have been Carnivore for almost 11 months now, hoping it would help and reduce the pain. Unfortunately there has been no change . Very sad, because this was my last hope of getting to feel better. I won't quit though... Nowhere to run to from here...

[@lauristandley4359]

@@lynnemilazzo3904 Hi Lynne! Just curious as to how much weight you have lost? I know I will not lose my lipedema fat…it’s just that I am losing regular subcutaneous fat that surrounds the lipedema, so overall, I have gotten smaller. But I still have that cuffing around my ankles and lipedema lumps. I have gotten a vibration plate that I think is helping, but that’s not a cure either. I’m so thankful, though, that the pain is much improved when I don’t eat sugar, including carbs from fruit and vegetables. I’ve lost over 90 pounds but still have the lipedema lumps. I’m trying to fast 5 days a month, which is helping, too. Good luck!

[@cassieoz1702]

This is BY FAR the most organised and articulate explanation of lipidaema if heard. Thank you Prof

[@janschallert6896]

I have not known about lipedema until today, but I very much was aware of the pain, and the single most benefit to me of the ketogenic diet has been the relief from constant lifelong pain. There is nothing in the grocery store that could tempt me away from a low carbohydrate diet, given the experience I have had, that I didn't have a name for before this lecture.

[@TheAngelakkornegay]

I have been on strict Keto for over a year and have lost over 110 lbs, but sadly, the weight loss has not improved my pain level at all.

[@fontfroide1]

@@TheAngelakkornegayBut how much vet is still left?

[@TheAngelakkornegay]

@fontfroide1 well, I'm not sure, really. I have stage 3 Lipedema in Legs from hips to ankle and arms from shoulders to wrists, so the over 100 pounds weight loss is normal fat. Lipedema presses on the veins and nerves. Until the Lipedema is surgically removed, I will likely experience pain.

[@fontfroide1]

@@TheAngelakkornegay I'm sorry for you, terrible disease. Have you thought about going all carnivore? Dr Chaffee says there have been cases that have benefited from it because some substances in fruits and vegetables have an effect on neurological disorders and blood vessels. I have been a carnivore for a year now without any carbohydrates, including no eggs because I am a Hyperthyroid patient. If I sometimes fall for a piece of cheese (1 carbohydrate per ounce), I immediately have a swollen ankle the next day. Good luck 👋

[@milkmaid4077]

​@@TheAngelakkornegayshift from keto to carnivore and the pain may leave. It has worked for me and many others have reported that carnivore helped relieve their pain.

[@marthastettinius1780]

Very helpful! I have stage 1 or 2 lipedema with severe pain but seem to have arrested the progression since my diagnosis in late 2023 not only with low-carb eating but also, perhaps more importantly, with a strong circadian rhythm (for hormone regulation and much more) and quantum biology (decreasing inflammation with early morning sunlight exposure, grounding/earthing, red-light therapy, far-infrared sauna, hydration at the cellular level [what's called "exclusion-zone water"] and mitigating my exposure to non-native EMFs [such as wifi, cell phones, the earbuds you're using, Dr. Bikman, sorry to say, and also vibration plates, which give off a huge amount of magnetic non-native EMFs right next to our bodies--not good]). The pain signals you refer to are the result of the tissue having too positive a charge (too many protons, not enough electrons), thus triggering a pain signal. We can all increase our "redox potential" (plenty of electrons for our mitochondria to produce energy) by gathering free energy (in the form of photons in sunlight and electrons in the negatively charged earth) and protecting that energy by avoiding non-native EMFs. In quantum-biology terms, we are all batteries, made of water, powered by sunlight. All of this can greatly help women with lipedema, but most of us have never heard of it--we just hear about keto. I highly recommend finding a circadian and quantum-biology practitioner through the Quantum Biology Collective, such as Carrie Bennett or Sarah Kleiner. Also, the book "Toxic Legacy" by Stephanie Seneff, PhD of MIT, explains how COLLAGEN is severely compromised by the glyphosate (RoundUp, etc.) herbicide used on nearly all non-organic crops in the US; collagen is 1/3 glycine molecules, and glyphosate replaces that glycine, debilitating the function of the collagen (and most of the other proteins in our bodies). Try to eat organic produce and grassfed meat whenever possible (I know it's more expensive). Also, for more lipedema education and support, I recommend Lipedema Simplified, and for help securing insurance coverage for lipedema-reduction surgery, Cover Lipedema.

[@jellybeanvinkler4878]

Thank you for your help!❤

[@cynthiajeske5710]

I am in both Sarah and Carrie’s groups (and Sara Pugh). It’s been two years. The benefits have been tremendous. I’m here now after accidentally realizing I probably have lipedema. Grateful for the progress I have practicing circadian/quantum biology - a practice that benefits everyone regardless of their current health.

[@annetcell-ly4571]

@@marthastettinius1780 I’m so sick Of asking doctors what to do about the pain of lipedema when they haven’t even heard of it!!!so I decided to look after myself. I’ve been keto since 2019. It made a small positive difference. Then I started listening to Dr Ben Bikman who researched lipedema ( Instagram and podcast). He said it was a disease of collagen so I stopped taking collagen supplements. That also made a small positive difference. A month ago I started bio identical HRT and yippee after years of heavy aching legs I’M PAIN FREE!

[@gloriaiarango]

@marthastettinius1780. On your comment in crops being affected by Round up I'm not so sure about it since I was born in South America where there was no Glyphosate at the time. Same as you I was doing a lot of very time and money consuming things and "therapies" but the results were not good enough to continue wasting valuable hours of my time doing all of them. I decided to become a carnivore and it has been the best decision of mi life!! My body has change a lot for the better, pain is gone and quality of life it's just incredible. I have lost just 25 pounds in 38 months but the difference in my appearance it's just huge! I eat just animal based food meaning eggs, all kind of meats, whipping cream in my coffee, fat cheeses like Mozarella, Cheddar, etc. plus bacon, tallow and lard, I use artificial sweetener in my coffee so my carbs consumption it's basically zero. Simple, effective and cheaper too!

[@brenajean]

As an awareness advocate that has Lipedema and has been sharing my own story, I am DEEPLY appreciative of this level of explanation. I will honestly be studying this for a while. 🙏🏾 Thank you!

[@bleon5956]

Thank you!! We need info on hormones like estrodial and menopause how it's effects Lipedema

[@lfs1812]

Yes!!! I just started HRT and am definitely worried

[@szghasem]

I love how you explain and break things down Dr. Bikman. Have been addicted to listening to your lectures ever since I discovered you 4 years ago. Even though I've listen to soooo many of your talks, I still learn something new every time. Thank you!

[@benbikman]

Thanks for your kind comment.

[@nurjimenez7401]

❤It sometimes over my old brains but it doesn’t stop me from learning something new. Thank you for what you do, oh yes I am a subscriber of Hlthcode choc/mac 😋

[@teresahunt5521]

I was a morbidly obese child and always wondered why my fat was painful. I was anorexic as a teen and obviously, my pain disappeared. My weight normalized and I became a nurse and later got into bodybuilding. Any time I gain an excess of body fat, it is very painful and retains a lot of fluid over a 12 hour nursing shift. Pants that fit in the morning are tight and uncomfortable by the end of the day. Fascinating topic. Thank you.

[@benbikman]

Thanks for your kind comment.

[@gloriaiarango]

@teresahunt5521. I knew I had lipedema but nobody believed me. Anyway Teresa I'm 64 now and living the life! I decided 38 months ago to being a carnivore and it has been the best decision of my life! I have lost just 25 pounds but the difference in my appearance is incredible. Men at least 30 years younger than me want to date me! Anyway carnivore diet has transformed my body and my life! Diabetes is gone, fatty liver is gone and at least 15 ailments like snoring, callouses on the heels, milia on eyelids, etc. Now I'm free of pain, cellulite, inflammation, being uncomfortable all the time you name it.. please check carnivore diet.. it can change your life forever!

[@gloriaiarango]

Dr. Bikman I am one of many women who asked you to study Lipedema and I'm very glad you did. I learned a lot with your video and I really appreciate your commitment to us, however it's very sad that there is not a cure or real treatment for it. I have tried vibrational plate, massage of various types, etc. Yes, they help but it is a lost battle one or two days you stop and you body acts with revenge. This disorder can literally consume the life of any women with those "therapies" that take hours to do and the results last minutes. I did keto for 4 years and suddenly my body started to create cellulite like crazy and I gained more than 20 pounds in a month until I took the decision to convert to carnivore for 3 more years now, Being carnivore has stopped the progression of Lipedema and I have lost 25 pounds in 38 months so I'm happy because it's easier than any other treatment and I can see results, my body has changed dramatically. Fasting helps but as in any other option it is very temporary. I really recommend carnivore die to all women looking for something that can create a big change in their lives, quality of life it's greatly improved when a woman with Lipedema is consuming zero or almost zero carbs. Real results! Thank you Dr. Bikman.. your work is helping a lot of people...

[@marilys3549]

Thank you so much for exploring the topic of Lipedema. I've battled weight all my life. It started even pre puberty with thick leg and the problem grew worse, heavy calfs, large lower abdomen and thicker upper arms. I didn't receive a diagnosis until 3 years ago at age 64 and yet I look like the poster child for Lipedema. I tried natural pathetic doctors and the most help from a dietitian that graduated from Bastier. I eat low carb,low oxalate, wholefoods diet ( no preparaed foods) Im battling to get hip replacement surgery but turned away because of BMI, I've led an active life riding dressage and a black diamond skier, but no more. Currently, I'm in a pool exercise 4 to 5 days and 45min per session. I'm looking at a life with a wheelchair in the very near future. 😢

[@Lipedemahandled]

Thank you so much Dr. Ben Bikmen for bringing attention to a topic that I feel many doctors ignore or are not aware of. You are a saint, Lipedema has ruled my life since I was 12-13 years old. Always struggling where others are not. Many years of just being told your fat, but knowing it was much more. Creating a very unhealthy relationship with food, making this dominant feature in one’s life. Thank you so much for bringing the attention to the low-carb keto style lifestyle. Hearing those studies just reaffirms what I already know. It’s just very hard to stick to your sugar addict. I appreciate everybody’s success stories who have worked so hard and continue to inspire me. Thank you.

[@fermoycailin]

Research papers seem to only refer to lipedema fat in the limbs however many many sufferers of lipedema report having it all over. Specialist surgeons in Germany report finding it in all parts of the body including abdomen, back, under the chin and in the scalp. I can feel it under my skin, all over my body

[@SueWoledge]

Yes that's me as well. I have it on my legs, abdomen, I'm pretty sure my breasts, a little on my arms that seems to be reducing on carnivore as it was getting worse prior and it makes sense that it can be all over as there's connective tissue all over. The typical pattern is on the limbs, but there will be those of us who are affected in many areas.

[@lynlawley8903]

Im so sorry you are going through that

[@NikkiHodgesArt]

I’m that girl…🙁 legs, arms, waist (the worst pain) tummy badly, breasts, saddle bags on back and under chin! I’m 56 and feel like my life is over.

[@SueWoledge]

@@NikkiHodgesArt look into either Keto or Carnivore diets. That's where women with this condition see the most benefit. I've been on carnivore for two years and have had great results. Still a work in progress as had many things going wrong in my body, but so much better than I was two years ago.

[@NikkiHodgesArt]

@@SueWoledge Thank you so much for your lovely comment 🥰 this post, and you have given me some hope! I will definitely look into both.

[@renukadevgharemore7183]

Every video by Dr Bikman is a new learning.

[@robertobattiston1]

Blessed to have found this channel and its very competent channel host.

[@cakeproSherri]

This was GOLD. Thank you Dr. B. What you are doing with your InsulinIQ classroom for the general public is phenomenal. Thank you for sharing your valuable time and knowledge with us.

[@benbikman]

Thanks for your kind comment.

[@kimelliott4771]

Dr. Bikman, thank you so much for researching this topic, my wife suffers with lipedema and subsequently lymphedema and she has talked to a specialist 😊their coarse of action is exactly as you described and insists it’s a fat cell problem. Your research gives me hope.

[@gloriaiarango]

@kimelliott771. Please check carnivore diet, it can change the life of you wife. Mine has been changed 180 degrees. Please read my comments to other comments here... best decision ever!!

[@heathernotzdaniels6350]

Very well done information jump into lipedema, Dr. Ben! We need more Drs to be aware of this and finding even better ways to help us control this debilitating condition. So many ladies, when told they have lipedema the first time, will literally cry with such a relief to know that it is not our fault, and it isn't something we can just diet and exercise away. It's a constant battle to keep it controlled, but life always doesn't allow us that control. Body image issues, so many eating disorders, mental frustration, body dysmorphia, depression, are all things that we can suffer with. The frustration of going to your own doctor and them continually telling you that just need to exercise more and eat less, because they don't understand this condition, can really do a number on a person. Keep spreading the word. I'm glad you made this video.

[@shaunabchapman]

As someone diagnosed with lipoedma years ago, I so appreciate your video. Yes, it is painful. I often feel every bit of that stiffness and hardness you explain and some days it’s hard to drag this body around. Thank you so much for this explanation and for shedding light on the subject. I hope it helps move toward the direction of better understanding for providers and a step closer to figuring out how to treat it. Bless you, Doc!

[@benbikman]

Thanks for watching and for commenting.

[@1timbarrett]

Thank you for explaining that lipedema is not only disfiguring but painful. 😖 🙏 😣 🙏 😓

[@helenabarber5565]

Thank you so much for this informative video. I am 63 with Lipedema /lymphedema. I went keto 7 years ago and lost 65 lbs. this did significantly reduce the size of my legs and improve the pain. They still are larger than the rest of me and they still get achy and hard but it was a big improvement. 2 months ago I decided to try carnivore but I have found it difficult as I am the only one in my household doing it and it can be expensive along with having to make sure I have food to eat when my family is eating the standard carb filled diet. The biggest thing was that I only lost 4 lbs in this time and that is discouraging. I am going back to keto meat based as it is easier and more sustainable for me. I am also after watching this, going to see if I can handle some lymphatic drainage massage. I would for anyone seeking next steps to try keto and if you are thinking carnivore it is also easier to do a few months of keto first and then slowly transition to carnivore.

[@meatdog]

I wish I had the money to take your actual college classes. You are truly an amazing educator with a real gift for making these topics completely understandable and applicable to my daily life. I have a tremendous amount of respect for you. I was a college professor in nursing and physics( I have multiple degrees in a few disciplines) . Thank you for your time.

[@toutounoulash]

Thank you for this wonderful informative video. I have very subtle lipedema, the pain is not fun even when husband gets playful or my cat sitting on my lap or walking over me in my bed, it hurts like hell. Most physicians don’t even listen.

[@dr.samierasadoonalhassani2669]

He is an honest not yet corrupted scientist. May God bless him and his family.

[@dannyc9784]

Thanks Doc! You and Dr Chaffee are the best. I hope my wife who I sent this video to & needs to see this, finally wakes up... she's in denial that she has lipedema, even though she shows all characteristics and symptoms.

[@CarnivoreScott]

I have been looking forward to this video installment!! I really appreciate the commentary on lymph, and believe there is a real need for a deep dive into all things lymph. So little understanding of the lymphatic system by we, the patients, is really a contributory aspect to our overall health. Your presentation is improving our understanding how and why the lymphatic system works is so very important. I think our ancestors, while not having the scientific evidence, understood the importance of daily movement/exercise, and the impact it has on our homeostatic health. It almost seems as if there is an upregulation/epigenetic response to hyperinsulinemia. It would be interesting to learn how many people who have Lipedema also have Hyperinsulinemia? So thank you Ben for all you are doing to empower each of us, by teaching us the "why's and how's" of our bodies. I don't believe you can fully appreciate your impact on each of us. You are a blessing and gift to humanity. Again Thank You!

[@annevskitchen]

Maybe lets just get some people to comment on this for answer the interesting question on Hyperinsulinemia in Lipedema Patienbts. I have (or had) Hyperinsulinimia and also ADHD (another thing that interests me if there is a connection). Im am three years Ketovore and one of this years was pure carnivore and still my basal insulin is somewhat "high" when I use Bens Cutoffs. Keto for over 10 years, and lost my excess weight from way over 600 lbs to a normal weight range. Sometimes I am a bit frustrated, that I cannot get lower basal insulin readings no matter if I am strictly carnivore dairyfree and all, or if I allow for some home fermented dairy and occasionally small servings of berries. And of course I lift heavy and get my fun cardio in. But at least I have very low pain and swelling in arms and legs, even if these areas are still very plush compared to a smallish waist and showing abs. But I am working on it :)

[@CarnivoreScott]

@@annevskitchen I suspect there are individual levels for many hormones and such. Each of these bio markers could be looked at through a lens of our own needs. All this to say maybe a higher level for you is a healthy(ish) level based on where you have come from. Also having LOST so much weight there are probably a few biomarkers whish may never get into the generalized "Normal" range. Finally you may need to consider the impact of what I suspect has been, or is, excess skin. Skin is really a very large organ with lots of metabolic needs and hormonal signaling of its own. Perhaps this is a driver? Do you do much in the way of fasting, either by OMAD or such? What ever this journey is for you now, WOW have you come a long way and done AMAZING things so far! Be kind to yourself you are winning!

[@annetcell-ly4571]

Melbourne scientists at St Vincent’s institute have, after a 5 year study, discovered abnormal stem cells in lipedema as well as a gene. Dr Tara Kanezis and Prof. Ramon Shayan are now doing drug trials to block a protein in lipedema cells to block growth. Published in the International Journal of Obesity.

[@Texasketogirl]

You forgot to mention “rebounding”… such as jumping on a trampoline is thought to help get things moving.

[@lfs1812]

And vibration plates have really helped my pain.

[@monnoo8221]

@@lfs1812 why not moving yourself'?? do isometric exercises

[@lfs1812]

@@monnoo8221 I definitely do lots of exercise but to get the lymphatic fluid moving my vibration plate really helps!

[@mercedeztinney9311]

My absolute FAVORITE explanation I have ever heard. So much information, easy to understand - maybe because I'm medically minded or you're just that great at explaining complicated processes. Thank you for explanations.

[@miriam2909]

I watched my elderly friend die of lipodema last year. I felt so bad for her because of the pain she was in. I don’t know how she coped but slept the last 6 months sleeping in a recliner. I was almost relieved when she passed, heartbroken but relieved that she was no longer suffering. This was a great explanation of what was actually taking place within her. I miss her so much.

[@benbikman]

So sorry.

[@miriam2909]

@@benbikman 🥰

[@jose79fin]

Very informative and this is huge help. I especially appreciated that you mentioned the findings of a study showing that not all calories are created equal (we have known that all along), reiterating that a lower carb diet showed 3x bigger weight loss compared to a higher carb one with equal caloric count.

[@HML-it7te]

It’s so refreshing to learn from a highly trained professional that has a gift of teaching complex issues in such a way that I can grasp. I know the students he teaches will succeed in understanding. Some 35 years ago when I went to uni, I found a range of teaching styles, some of which were subpar.

[@alanacreates]

missed important Q: if it is a collagen problem, then does dietary collagen intake help alleviate lipedema or contribute to making lipedema worse?? ty for a fascinating scientific viewpoint on the subject!

[@ekondigg6751]

Probably neither, since the body makes its own collagen.

[@SueWoledge]

Thank you for this Ben. I’ve finally come to the realisation that I do indeed have Lipedema (I didn’t want to know that as it just adds another ‘thing’ ) and now understanding that it’s a connective tissue problem really makes sense as I’ve known for many years that I have something a bit strange going on with my connective tissue. Putting the pieces together… 😊

[@annierichards7367]

I watched the Liposuction for Lip-Edema, the Doctor was manually removing the fat with his fingers, the fat looked clumpy not like the scrambled egg appearance we learned in anatomy classes. My point is that it didn't look like fat.

[@bluestripes6037]

Yes, I saw that too! I'm thinking, if this doc is accurate, then it's like fat held hostage in collagen. If think getting the collagen to relax is the answer

[@markbarbdearman2157]

Thanku Dr.Bikman for your time to get this out for us…I’m rather nerdy about this.

[@bodulica3]

I am not overweight. My upper body - you can count my ribs. Legs, staring with knees - absolutely terrible. I am old now, and just now found out that it is not simple fat.

[@prilby]

Same for me, I’ve always been thin. My legs have always been the largest part of my body but pregnancy caused me to get painful lumpy legs. Even after my children I’d be back down to 100 pounds and still painful legs. As I get older it’s gone to my arms too.

[@CM-mn2nh]

Yep. Same here. When I was younger it looked like two halves of my body came from different people.

[@jd-xu4pu]

same. was told most who come in with it are overweight.

[@Thundercloud1969]

Dr. Bikman, just got KZbin notice that you posted this video. Atm I'm out but I will sure watch it later, thank you for this post. Greetings from a fan from the Netherlands, I love your posts. It heps me also do my job as a health specialist better. 👍🏻

[@benbikman]

Thank you. I’m glad they are helping you.

[@fontfroide1]

It is a great pleasure to see that more and more healthcare people are becoming interested in the keto/carnivore lifestyle. In America, a number of doctors are even setting up a new diabetes foundation (see latest Dr Ken Berry video)

[@tinaslouise]

Thank you very much for doing this... I was hoping you would address this subject. I am going to send this to my doctor so he can better understand lipedema.

[@fronniebealer7808]

I watched this the first time around, but learned more the second time around.

[@BeautyMeetsDIY]

PLEASE ADVISE. DO YOU RECOMMEND NOT TAKING ANY COLLAGEN POWDER and/or SUPPLEMENTS?? I HAVE BOTH LIPEDEMA & LYMPHEDEMA AND TAKE COLLAGEN DAILY. THANK YOU 🫶🏽🙏🏼

[@sandrazed6089]

Yes, many of us have this same question? Does this doc look at the comments?

[@DollyHood-y1p]

Maybe try a month without it and see if you notice a difference? I recently took a week off my hrt and noticed less edema.

[@bluestripes6037]

Around 11:30 and 13:30 he was talking about too much collagen being the issue, so it's possible that taking more isn't the answer

[@robyn3349]

Thank you, Dr. Bikman, for these virtual classes!

[@DonnaCouture]

Thank you Dr. Bikman for covering this topic. It's so important for me to understand this condition as I suffer from it. I have eliminated carbs from my diet so I'm basically a carnivore now. I also use a vibration plate and make sure I get plenty of electrolytes and I'm seeing some relief.

[@tammyday9389]

Check out @myzerocarnlife new interview with 53 yo woman who is healing the lipodemia in her body. Very encouraging. 😊

[@kirkwolak6735]

Curious if there is a bigger underlying issue with collagenase, MMPs, or a lack of lysosomal enzymes? Are these things having a hard time getting into the fat cells? Is the collagen structure inside or outside the fat cell? And the second thought... "I wonder if subcutaneous injections of ketone esters could help... and then wonder about combining them with the proper enzymes to break down the structures". JUST GLAD this is getting some coverage! It makes a lot more sense now. My heart bleeds for those who suffer from this!

[@bluestripes6037]

Yes, I'm wondering if benfotiamine might help in some way. Because it's sounding like fat cells are being held hostage inside runaway collagen. The chances of regulate thiamine getting in seem slim

[@RoedhamHouseRanch]

Awesome information! Reference collagens role in lipedema...does taking a collagen supplement influence this? Thank you 😊

[@MEF7]

Good question

[@sandrazed6089]

wondering the same thing? I take it daily!

[@jgm3946]

I've been waiting for this topic to be covered. It was nice of you to cover it, even though it sounds like it is a little outside your main lane (but we novices didn't know that until you told us). My husband has Dupuytren contracture which he was told was because of too much collagen. Interesting that collagen is a cause in this too. I feel so bad for people with this condition. Hopefully the ketogenic lifestyle can provide some hope for relief. Thank you for the presentation.

[@karenm7364]

Thank you Dr Bickman, if you would like a study person you can pick me. This is me 100% and has been an issue my entire life and I’m not overweight.

[@Cya-bebetter]

I have adopted the keto lifestyle and use a CGM. I wake in the middle of the night with low blood sugar and wonder about options for raising it; I'm restrictive-time eating to lose weight and keep me from the pre-diabetic diagnosis I once had. I listen to A LOT of educational vids but yours are by far my favorite; it helps so much to know the science behind our move towards better health. Thank you.

[@nataliajimenez1870]

You should double check with a finger prick when you get low glucose while sleeping. The CGM often gives false reading when it's pressed against a surface like a bed

[@HypnosisforCreatives-gx8nc]

Since some Lipedema researchers are noticing that most of their patients are Hypermobile, I wonder if you’ve thought about a connection between Lipedema and Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome?

[@joevans5713]

There are fascinating studies about the role of Thiamine (B1) deficiency in EDS

[@MEF7]

​@joevans5713 how much would you suggest taking for someone with Lipedema

[@annevskitchen]

Very cool comment, I have Lipedema and I am hypermobile, too. I never thought of my flexibility as a Syndrome though, I just thought its normal to be abled to touch the floor easy with my hands or do splits without ever training for it. I figured some people are just stiff and others are flexible by nature.

[@TheAngelakkornegay]

I have stage 3 Lipedema and am not hypermobile

[@HypnosisforCreatives-gx8nc]

@@TheAngelakkornegay not everyone is - just an unusually high percentage.

[@cathleeny8670]

Excellent book: The Essential Guide to Living with Lipedema, by Dr. Alexandre Amato (vascular surgeon out of Brazil) - I highly recommend this, it drastically improved my acceptance of the disease. About 3 weeks ago, I cut gluten from my diet (not rice/potato carbs), and within a few days my generalized all over body pain has almost disappeared! About a week in, I ate a small pancake, and the next few days had the same pain in my body as I was previously experiencing - whether this is lipedema related or general health I am not going back to the gluten! In addition, I have lost a couple pounds in the past week and am starting to notice looser fitting clothes. This is amazing to me, because for a solid year I have been exercising (w/personal trainer and focusing on weight lifting, and working with a nutritionist). In the past year, eating gluten, I have gained muscle, but the scale didn’t budge more than a pound and at certain points my clothes became tighter (I can only assume to due muscle mass). In addition, my muscles a growing at a faster pace that previously.

[@soshapybas]

Thank you thank you!! I’ve been rooting for you to do a discussion on lipedema!! Biggest hugs to you!!

[@awesometulips9427]

Great video, no one explains the details of this problem. Thanks 😊.

[@mariarh894]

Dr. Ben what a wonderful explanation! Thanks so much! does having collagen supplement add to the problem? The collagen being hardened? Thanks so much

[@merihgras]

Thank you for doing such a deep and impressive research and giving such a clear explanation!

[@naomicarpenter3611]

Thank you. This is very helpful. Please do more on lipedema.

[@jenkarmstrong]

As someone who has been dealing with lipedema for about 30 years and have been able to keep myself in between type 1 and 2 through exercise, low carb diet, and Fasciablasting, I have a question. I use a beef protein shake (Equip) and I often add collagen to my shakes?? Am I making things harder? Is exogenous collagen an issue or is that crazy to consider?

[@katecollins3894]

Great talk. Very different perspective to usual Lipedema talks. In my own case I have Lipedema, as does my mother and sister. My poor children seem to also have people on both of my partners sides of his family that have it as well. One thing I have noticed years ago talking to other women was that there seemed to be quite a few people that had pre eclampsia (or toxemia) with their children or their mothers had had it with them. My mother had toxemia with me. She swelled up greatly but had no issues with blood pressure that she knows of. I had what they would have called toxemia as well with my first (sad diet) 23 kg of fluid in the last 10 weeks gained. Interestingly others like my partners side have also said toxemia and then they have also presented with Lipedema later in life. The preeclampsia/toxemia I have hypothesised that it is just insulin resistance. Like most women with Lipedema I had good blood glucose numbers and passed every GGT. However if someone had checked my insulin they would have seen it was sky high making my sugars low and I was really diabetic. Since they say most unexplained high blood pressure is insulin resistance this definitely was the case for me. It wasn't until I asked for an insulin assay when they asked for the last GGT I ever did. My fasting (30) and hour 1 (155) were crazy. Every time now my insulin is high I have Lipedema growth. I feel this makes you work with insulin very important for other with Lipedema to keep it in check.

[@holycow92883]

Interesting. I had toxemia with my first pregnancy. Didn’t notice this happening until a decade later

[@ElleCoyote]

Thank you! Understanding lipedema at a cellular level is very helpful. My lipedema began after menopause, when I started gaining weight although I was eating the same diet I had been on for years. I kept asking doctors why my calves bulged out and they did not know. Finally, I was diagnosed with lipedema 20 years ago. In the 20 years since then, because I was already doing low carb on an off, I have not had as much limb expansion or pain as I read that others are experiencing. However, I cannot bear anyone pressing on or massaging my calves. These days, I do Intermittent Fasting and Keto. If I stick with it, I feel a LOT better, and I look better. I try to stay on keto, though it is difficult because I am surrounded by people eating sugars and carbs constantly, and the "low carb" and "keto" foods are frequently a cause of swelling. Keto seems restrictive at first, but then after a few days, I have very little hunger and lots of physical and mental energy. I will try the HLTH stuff and get some exogenous ketone powder as well. Thanks again!

[@brenajean]

🙋🏾‍♀️ QUESTION: I am curious about Lipedema patients who have also been diagnosed with hEDS which are commonly seen together . If the connective tissues surrounding the fat cell has become fibrotic due to an over production of collagen and hEDS causes “weak collagen” how do both fibrotic and weak collagen coexist together?

[@KyDairyGoats]

One of the best video explanations I have heard!

[@sheltie141]

Excellent piece, thank you, from a lady with Lipoedema. Liposuction does help as does the low carb diet.

[@debbiesue4287]

I always learned so. Much from you.Thank you very much for your time and sharing your knowledge. Very helpful

[@mauriglisson6954]

Thank you for your work and sharing the results with us. As a person with Lipedema I was hoping you would do some research on it.

[@jimfife6255]

This stuff is so good, Ben, I just wish you had graphics, too, so we're not just looking at you talk.

[@janetvanantwerp8899]

I am just finding the videos on lipedema. I believe I now finally know why I have lumpy arms and legs and even when I could wear a size 2, after losing 140 lbs. my legs were still fat with some mild “cuffing” and pitting edema even after sleep that was never really in my ankles and feet but only in my legs. Slightly hypermobile joints, and easy bruising. Fortunately, I don’t have a lot of pain, but I do struggle with spasms in my feet and toes when I am not hydrated super well, which makes sense, I think, if I have impaired lymphatic drainage.

[@bobeldredge282]

Does taking a collagen supplement make it worse? Thanks for all the great information. Bob the welder

[@denniswilliamson6899]

Hey Bob the Welder! I’m not Dr Benjamin Bikman nor is Nick on his KZbin channel: Physionics. He just posted an overview of his eleven studies on collagens in the human body. The jury is still out for some but he postulates that the di-peptides and tri-peptides are measurable in the bloodstream and he briefly shows the mechanisms that will encourage cell health which then allows those cells to do the work necessary to make new collagens and proteins to maintain cell structure. I highly recommend watching!

[@nevillegoddard4966]

Thanks Ben! Brilliant!

[@aurapopescu1875]

Professor Bikman, could you please make a video addressing ketosis and sleep? I have been on a Ketogenic diet for 5 years now, and I am desperately struggling with sleep... Thank you 🙏

[@Cya-bebetter]

Yes! I just posted about waking in the middle of the night with low blood sugar; sleep is so important and I'm working so hard to regain my health but sleep has become a major issuse

[@aurapopescu1875]

@@Cya-bebetter I don't have a hypoglycemia problem. I just can't sleep in ketosis.

[@karenohanlon4183]

I waken at two and find ot hard to fall asleep. I get stressed I cant sleep.get stressed etc and on an on it goes I wonder if it was years of carb abuse. Rubbish carbs and I sleep lik a baby.

[@aurapopescu1875]

@@karenohanlon4183 I have read that about one third of people who go on Keto report a worsening of their sleep. Keto insomnia is a real thing. It seems that carbs help l-tryptophan get into the brain - l-tryptophan then converts to serotonin and serotonin converts to melatonin which allows us to sleep. I wish Prof. Bikman would address this topic.

[@karenmcmillan4626]

You may need to take iodine in the morning. Many people are iodine deficient, so get very tired during the day, which actually affects their sleep at night. Also increasing magnesium (glycinate form) is great to help with sleep.

[@sandybennett7397]

Thank you Dr. I really enjoyed your video, when you mention collagen and estrogen, are these two things that women with lipedema should avoid consuming, it sounds as if we have too much in our body and taking it on top of what we already have would be detrimental in our progress, is that your opinion?

[@TaraDodson-x4x]

Thank you so much for this video, I've been waiting to hear u speak on this. EXCELLENT!!

[@ravlyn7620]

Should I not take my collagen supplement then?

[@tonichatwin6150]

Thank you. This was the best explanation I have heard. I’m curious on the diet study, did they tracked how much was regular fat loss and if any weights was due to lipidema reduction? I’m guessing they didn’t actually reduce the lipidema. Many of us lose weight initially on keto and then hit a wall and can’t seem to lose anymore despite continuing to follow the diet strictly. My mom has lipidema and is 69. Despite being very thin, almost emaciated, she looks like she’s wearing a pillow around her hip and belly area. She has had this ever since I can remember.

[@shirleyjenkins8786]

I also hit that weight loss after losing 90 lb, could just not lose any more despite staying low carb. I went to a endocrinologist who started me on Metformin and am very slowly losing again

[@kzp5249]

How do we “fix” the connective tissue?

[@CoyotePrettyPhotography]

If is my understanding that stem cells and autophagy enhanced with fasting is the best fix. I am noticing a big difference after adding longer fasts to my carnivore/keto diet.

[@risecopeman5409]

This was very informative! Thank you, Dr. Bickman. I have been strong and "healthy" most of my life, but have had episodes of odd fat. Always related to times of hormone changes. In general, I have obviously high estrogen and other sex hormones in general anyways. Too much really. Then post viral syndrome hit, combined with aging and higher carb diet. The combination created a painful lipedema patch on the inside of my lower left calf and associated lymphedema that was resistant to drainage from elevation, and also increased angiogenesis and inflammatory cytokines. I am on a carnivore diet now, and feel a lot better. Sadly, my body is resisting weight loss, so I have to quit coffee and start moving more, plus want to try alternating cold plunging and red light sauna plus message. Again, thank you for this informative lecture!

[@greenwealth7781]

Dr. Ben is excellent in his area.

[@MartyRaaymakers]

Holey Moley Ben. I love how my mins grows with questions when I listen to you. Thanks.

[@drjimparker]

Excellent up-to-date overview of a little known and difficult topic. Congratulations.

[@thecasualgypsy]

Given the information, would you then not recommend collagen supps for someone with Lipedema ?:)

[@eyesbyrhondacosmetictattoo8448]

I have that same question!

[@mikoc7633]

Thanks so much Yes I love all your wonderful videos with all this great info! I live out here in Utah hope to meet you one day and be a part of one of your studies! I have autoimmune from MS, been dealing with inflammation with the lipedema for a long time, and hoping the lower carb intake eventually catches up with my body and relieves it. Thus far still haven't figured out how to get rid of this extra fluid, love understanding it though..🙏🏽💜

[@underdog2594]

Abdominal surgery. Returned home and immediately began experiencing lower leg swelling. Condition continued for six months, including lower leg swelling, skin discoloration/pigmentation, reduced skin elasticity back of calf, and very sensitive/raw skin. Saw physical therapist (CLT). Assessment: Lymphedema grade moderate (3-5 cm), stage I. Measured for custom Mediven Cosy/2 Calf flat-knitted compression socks (using the Medi Vision digital scanning tool). Began wearing these custom compression socks October 2023. Six month outcome: symptomatically resolved. Impression: Expensive, but very effective. Can abdominal surgery traumatize the lymph system?

[@Serenity-vn5on]

A picture representing of all those terms at the beginning would have been nice

[@wedonotconsent2764]

Does eating collagen/ bone broth cause lipedema or make it worse?

[@MEF7]

Why

[@RedPilled100]

Nice doctor.Props from Fiji 🇫🇯

[@andreajoy8662]

This was so informative and explained in a beautiful way that allows me to share with others in hopes that they understand a little bit of what we go through in our bodies day in and day out. Subscribed and looking forward to learning a lot more.

[@lucretiamccollumcc]

Hi Ben, thank you for the video. I would love to hear what you have to say about multiple lipomas and Dercum's Disease.

[@rohitrathi4552]

I am loving the way you explain everything. It is so clear. Thank you. I wonder if all or some of these mechanisms apply to lipomas as well.

[@nannygranny9534]

My Hlth Code has just arrived. I am so excited for this plan. It tastes good and does not trigger my sweet tooth and more important for me is that I did not bloat!! Thank you Dr. Bikman. I was ready to give up.

[@kzp5249]

Can anything be done about the connective tissue to help reverse this disorder?

[@MEF7]

Good question

[@anneventura1230]

They used to do lymphatic massage in France, long ago. Never saw it in the UK.

[@kassandraclinch3688]

MLD Manual Lymphatic Drainage massage helps a lot with diet change. Definitely worth goggling the very easy technique.

[@valeriepriola573]

This video comes at a good time as I'm ready to switch up my protein souce again. I have lipedema and am eating keto...I just purchased a vibration plate and she how I do. Thank you for all your help❤❤❤

[@adrib3084]

I developed lipedema after having my thyroid removed. Definitely hormonal for me. I was thin with slim legs and arms previously

[@cccalifornia7206]

Thank you Dr Bikman!!👍😊

[@dawnrobinsonwalker2523]

Should we take collagen then?

[@jackandjill440]

So very helpful!!! So would taking collagen be detrimental?

[@lorimartin8737]

I just finished watching another video where they mentioned the excess collagen factor. I'm quitting my collagen supplement tomorrow! I'm beginning to understand there may be trade-offs with lipedema. I was taking collagen for my joints - I have no arthritis at 66, but I do have a ton of pain due to lipedema.

[@Qqqqqqqqq-q3k]

Sir please gives information about lipoma nodules

[@leadimentoobrien1221]

Thank you SO much!!!

[@shelbs200]

I was only diagnosed with Lipodema AFTER a year of finding and diagnosis of a desmoid fibromatosis. This explaining how it is truly fibroblasts and over producing collagen makes sense that my 2 issues might be related and all estrogen stimulated. Wonder if anyone is looking into this correlation?