Littlefinger's Masterplan (A Song of Ice and Fire)

[@Zainiology]

I love the idea of Littlefinger struggling to manipulate the Starks and the other lords of the North as a parallel to Ned struggling to operate in Kings Landing. Great analysis!

[@Dadecorban]

Terrifying why? Most of the cruelty and chaos he sows is in pursuit of gaining these prizes, once he has them, it's not like he's going to rule poorly. He's the one most likely to create a stable and prosperous realm should he succeed.

[@thebranndoful]

​@@Dadecorban Terrifying?

[@Dadecorban]

@@thebranndoful I think something got fucked up. This isn't the comment that I was replying to.

[@made-line7627]

​@Dadecorban Think it was the comment above haha

[@thebranndoful]

@@Dadecorban ah, got it. :)

[@BeastinlosersHD]

The actor sold Littlefinger so well in the show (even if the characters are a bit different) that he narrates the art of war on audible. It goes hard too

[@daniell1483]

I had no idea that he did narration. Now I want to listen to it, damn it.

[@nunyabiznes33]

Damn that's epic

[@Dionysos_____Alters]

Aidan Gillen

[@maestrofeli4259]

W comment

[@jmace2424]

I would love for Littlefinger to hear Catelyn is still alive, travel to her cave, and get done in by Lady Stoneheart.

[@roronoalaw7772]

Picturing that is hilarious

[@yogadork_namaste]

I don't read fanfic but I would SO read that if someone were to write it 😆 😂

[@BeneathTheGold]

I second that motion. George! Make it so. Oops went a bit startrek there at the end.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

I love when people say stuff that makes absolutely no sense

[@LisaAnn777]

​@@BeneathTheGold I love star trek, may the force be with you 😸

[@heretic5579]

Baelish would be the protagonist in other stories. He is low born, loved a lord’s daughter, fought a duel for her honor, a lord killed his unborn child, he goes overseas to learn swordplay and politics. He comes back and begins the game of thrones. To Petyr, the Starks and Tullys are the bad guys.

[@JoRiver11]

It's hard to think of someone who is murderously ambitious as a protagonist, no matter what hardships he had to overcome.

[@swordablaze9259]

History is written by the winners. I'm sure Petyr could spin this and leave out very key details 😅

[@yurinabesima]

Nah, I don't think Petyr would see himself as a hero, he wouldn't concern himself with moral judgements and ethics. Unlike Varys, who lies and manipulates but with a true empathetic end goal, Littlefinger knows he does everything for himself, and that makes him interesting.

[@bertaboy9078]

No shit he’d be the protagonist in other stories. If the story is about him, he’s the protagonist by default. Doesn’t make him the good guy (he’s also not lowborn as you said) As for JoRivers comment, she not only doesn’t know what protagonist means, but also what an anti-hero is. Crazy

[@buubuu9954]

His house sigil would be like a Playboy cover? A bitch with a dagger.

[@zoomac92]

Let's not forget that the fake Arya that Littlefinger sold to the Boltons was also Sansa's childhood best friend. When they reunite, I suspect Sansa will turn on Littlefinger and reap bloody vengeance for her friend with some diabolical schemes and betrayal of her own.

[@mrillis9259]

The Iron Banks soldiers will side with LF.

[@lordsmoke317]

Similar to what happened in the show, I think real Arya will give fake Arya the gift of a mercy killing to put her out of her misery once she arrives in Bravos.

[@Galvatronover]

@@lordsmoke317 jeyne is going to bravos ?

[@TheButcherGorr]

Reach

[@dylankennedy6020]

I want Arya having the Northern plotline instead. Jeyne is pretending to be Arya, and Arya is a faceless man.

[@thegodemperorspancreas7884]

I love the idea of little finger being just as helpless as Ned in KL when he gets to winterfell. That’s poetic justice

[@Dadecorban]

Sounds like heresy.

[@austingridleypickleball]

But unlike ned he'd know to leave before he died in a silly way.

[@Lennis01]

@@austingridleypickleball Except that he's infatuated with Sansa. Love causes the craftiest of men to make stupid decisions. And Littlefinger's decision to try and pit Sansa against Arya (in the show) was the worst thing he could have done.

[@islandboy9381]

@@Lennis01 You're talking about show Littlefinger who had the negative IQ move of giving up Sansa to Ramsay with no gain which didn't happen in the book. Also the only reason pitting Sansa against Arya failed was deus ex machina psychic Bran who LF should have bailed from the moment he realized his powers and no love shouldn't eliminate all his braincells to that.

[@ericgarcia7592]

@@islandboy9381 Baelish could still fall victim to his own hubris. He might straight up not believe Arya and Bran to have supernatural powers or whatever. The man is no different to most Southerners who dismiss magic due to the Faith of the Seven. Varys is the only one not to dismiss such things since he came from Essos and because of the trauma he suffered as a child. We also don't know yet how Bran and Arya will interact with LF in the books yet. Something tells me they aren't going to spell out what they can do now to Littlefinger just because. Littlefinger seems destined to fall in the North simply because he will be dealing with crazy as shit most normal people aren't use to. Jon coming back from death. Arya being a magical assassin. Bran being an all knowing pseudo god. The time for southern politicking is ending because winter is here.

[@stevetrail2307]

Aiden Gillen was perfect as Littlefinger. Probably my favorite casting in the show, him and The Hound.

[@mrillis9259]

When it became clear the thebshow runners forgot about the 3rd book an Victarian Greyjoy, that was it for me. My favorite POV chapters.

[@drjoshuamc]

Little finger, hound and Tyrion

[@daniell1483]

Vary's was also cast very well. I forget the actor's name, but he and Aiden Gillen have amazing chemistry.

[@colleenharding8665]

Tywin is also cast perfectly. Tyrion? He’s even better than the book because he’s so charismatic and the book version is scary to look at

[@awaywiththefaeries9464]

@@daniell1483 Conleth Hill

[@4Shaman]

I really hope GRRM goes more in-depth on Sansa in WoW. One of the show’s biggest blunders was the rushed Sansa plot. In reality, Sansa has a lot going for her. Unlike all the other Starks, she’s been living as a hostage, constantly having to think and fend for herself. She’s been mentored by Ned, Cat, Tyrion, Margaery, Olenna & Littlefinger. She also learned a lot from Cersei and Joffrey. If anyone should grow to become master of the game, it’s her.

[@toetaggerh4253]

Shey too!

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

I love the theory that Littlefinger will meet his fate at the hands of Lady Stoneheart. It would be so poetic for him to be tried and killed by the woman he was obsessed with, and his role in bringing about so much pain and suffering onto her family through his lies and scheming.

[@flahoo2807]

For sure. It seems to be the most fitting thematically. Though sansa and littlefinger being in the riverlands is the difficulty since littlefinger is quite keen on establishing power in the vale. I figure littlefinger and sansa will be revealed by an unexpected character return, and will be drawn to the riverlands on the way to winterfell by blackmail. We can only wonder.

[@HeatherHolt]

Fingers crossed!

[@veila0924]

This would be the worst possible outcome George could write. Cat's story will end with Arya, not Sansa. Sansa will be the one to undo Petyr.

[@assie_ie5532]

It would be perfect

[@danielallen4450]

@@flahoo2807 I don’t think they will stay in the Vale too long, and the symbolism in her story so far says at least to me that Sansa’s story is headed for Riverrun rather than Winterfell, so I don’t think placing him in the Riverlands is going to be overly difficult. To me the question is more this; whether his fate will be resolved in Winds or not. If so, I still think we MAY get a resolution. If not, he’ll definitely be one of the characters stuck in limbo. Of course, with each passing year, and HotD and other projects taking up space in George’s head, Winds becomes less and less concrete a possibility to me.

[@kadaverf]

I do miss the A Song of Ice and Fire videos, they brought me in to your channel in the first place. And since the Game of Thrones finale left so bitter a taste, this is what keeps me craving the books again. So thank you very much, I wish you all the best from Holland :)

[@iianmitchelldub]

I feel you bro! Almost 90 percent of the fan base feels ya! These videos are a blast

[@arthurmont-morency5027]

Remember, Littlefinger went from being basically a farmer to one of the (if not the) most powerful man in westeros in 5-10 years. Many people play the Game of Thrones, some better than the others, but he is the pure embodiment of it.

[@whittenaw]

I almost root for littlefinger winning the game of thrones, actually somehow taking the iron throne somehow. His cunning is extremely fascinating

[@alixiaghedeir1101]

Same

[@scarletbitch866]

That's why he's my favorite. He started the War of 5 Kings by writing a letter. That's badass.

[@daniell1483]

@@scarletbitch866 Lysa wrote the letter, though Littlefinger probably had it delivered.

[@colleenharding8665]

I admire his hustle much more than a family dynasty of likely inbreeding. This is the true history and ideology of the “divine right of kings.” There have always been people who believed that God wants them and their family to rule over others. Little finger feels very refreshing compared to that dark concept. He’s definitely smart enough to get himself up the food chain. He knows the struggle of the low born. Would he be a decent ruler? Maybe. I low key root for him, but don’t tell anyone.

[@scarletbitch866]

@Colleen Harding "I low key root for him, but I don't tell anybody." LMAO, this, for real! I told my brother Littlefinger was my favorite and he called me gross and how awful LF is. Then he goes, "He's my favorite, too." I hope his death is better in the books.

[@lilshortkid100]

When you put into words the fact that he could have 3 of the 7 kingdoms, it's kinda terrifying

[@perrycarters3113]

Petyr's biggest problem with his long-term goals is that it is extraordinarily difficult for a powerbroker to become king, even if he is of a major house. S8 did a lot wrong, but Tyrion was correct in saying that the most likely candidate to be accepted as king was one with a good story to tell the people and the lesser lords, and Petyr does not have that; anyone who steps back and looks at the sequence of events that show his rise to power will see his fingerprints all over it. While that is acceptable in a king's right hand, it is less so in a king themselves. That said, the Game of Thrones clearly had no better player. He is utterly unmatched in political skill and intelligence, and his rise to power was incredible. In that way, he reminds me of the character Delita Heiral, from Final Fantasy Tactics. Delita was a commoner who became king by joining the Church's conspiracy to engineer a war of succession, wipe out the leaders of both sides and assert religious authority. Delita betrayed the church and positioned *himself* as the leader of the faction that had custody of the rightful Princess, and won her affection in the meantime. By war's end, he was the highest military authority and the only suitable match for the Princess, and thus became King through marriage. Delita's plan would NOT have worked if he won through sheer political maneuvering. He was only accepted because he was, by all appearances and publicly known to be, a valiant and honorable holy knight. Petyr does not have the advantage of such masquerading, as everyone who deals with Petyr knows exactly the snake he is. As Varys would predict, the only kingdom Petyr could be crowned over is a kingdom of ashes; no amount of political maneuvering would ever inspire true loyalty. He'd forever be too reliant on people like Sansa, people with better claims and better stories, to keep the more honor-bound knights and lords under his thumb. And the moment someone like Sansa turned on him, at a crucial moment, he would lose. Had he played the long game, positioned 'House Baelish' as being a secondary name to many positions of power, allowed the positions they held to become hereditary, then a few generations later, his grandchildren could have won the throne and been accepted, once House Baelish was accepted as a powerful house.

[@Guangrui]

under no circumstance would Lord Baelish give away Sansa to the Boltons, no way, he would definitely keep her to himself

[@jmace2424]

I’ve always thought that Littlefinger’s japes with Renly (at the expense of Robert and Stannis) led directly to Renly declaring himself king.

[@darthlazurus4382]

He likely had been doing that for years. No doubt Littlefinger knew that Renly was gay and likely set him up with discrete dates.

[@saraa.4295]

I think he played all the brothers against each other..they were estranged already. They grew up apart, and had differing personalities, but the wedges between them, being willing to kill one another, came to pass by years of someone feeding those grievances

[@nunyabiznes33]

@@darthlazurus4382 you think he was supplying Renly with dudes like he do Lyn Corbray?

[@darthlazurus4382]

@@nunyabiznes33 Not so much that I think it happened, just that I think the possibility is very likely.

[@BrisbaneBhoy]

I'd argue that Littlefinger's first move to cause chaos was to tell Brandon Stark that Rhaegar had kidnapped Lyanna to strir up trouble between Houses Stark and Targaryen, with the hope of stopping the marriage between Brandon Stark and Catelyn Tully. He's playing, and been playing a very long game.

[@michaelbayer5094]

Do we know LF did this? It was the casus belli of the Rebellion. Whatever the truth, Robert B was still claiming it in Book 1and Episode 1.

[@HeatherHolt]

@@michaelbayer5094it’s a theory but isn’t for sure as far as I know yet. It’s a theory i heard on this channel recently actually.

[@michaelbayer5094]

@@HeatherHolt Thanks Heather. I had not seen that theory put forward. I think when I first read Brisbane's comment, I had my Brandons confused. Brisbane meant Ned's brother, not his son as 3 eyed raven. The books have a lot of loose ends like this one tied to the backstory. From the show we know some are revealed or solved. I'm afraid that even GRRM finishes the story he will leave many questions unanswered.

[@johansmallberries9874]

I don’t think he did it, he and Brandon weren’t on the best terms. I totally see why he would and how it would benefit him, I just don’t see him being able to easily approach Brandon. Plus Brandon knows Petyr hates him and wouldn’t trust the bait

[@JayMulligan-ld4uk]

Up the Celtic

[@Kujakuseki01]

I’d never really thought of it that way until you described it, but Littlefinger really did cause the entire chain of events that led to Robert’s death and the war.

[@daniell1483]

Not exactly. Cercei specifically mentions she wanted to get rid of Robert, so she probably would have made the attempt eventually, but only after she neutralized Renly and Stannis. Littlefinger forced her to move up her deadline. And Varys would always start wrecking the realm to make way for Young Griff. Westeros was always going to go up in flames as soon as Robert died.

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@daniell1483 even before Robert’s death, Illyrio and Varys had Dani and Drogo’s marriage set up so they could invade Westeros and cause chaos so Aegon “Totally not a Blackfyre” Targaryen could come in and save the day. They didn’t seem to care if Robert was still king, if anything Jorah says Robert’s bullheadedness would probably benefit them, he’d try to face the Dothraki in battle.

[@shawnhenderson2091]

Insight into the complex webs of GRRM's writing in contrast to what the show did really gives you an appreciation for how royally screwed we all were by the showrunners, its like they were given the outline for a partially completed Rembrandt, and for the first half of the painting they took their time and used the best quality paints to fill in the lines, then the second half they threw away the paint and used a crayon instead.

[@WarrenEBB]

I love the idea that his death will probably be an inversion of Ned's, caught out of his element amongst family, honor, and loyalty. Hopefully Arya will get to behead him

[@kobarsos82]

The true mastermind of the got series. Kinda annoyed at how they ended his reign in the tv series. Didn't feel realistic at all, nor in character. They did him dirty in the end, when they ran out of book material and diverged to make their own way. Didn't feel like littlefinger at all. Love these videos keep them up!

[@jay-1800]

The circumstances might not be the same when the books come out but I don’t see it ending any other way for his character. The fact that he is the mastermind of the war of the five kings and is most responsible for the violence that followed makes me more inclined to believe people will start putting together the pieces which will lead to him facing some form of accountability/justice/revenge.

[@kobarsos82]

@@jay-1800 Sure thing, I mean its a possibility, but I'm sure it will go down quite differently. He is too smart to have a bad ending like he had in the series imo. Also, let's not forget that its George R. R. Martin we are talking about here. He can be quite unpredictable when it comes down to these things. I would not be surprised if the good guys end up dead, only for Varys or Littlefinger to rule the kingdom eventually, lol. Whether we like it or not. If the writing supports it I would be in for it too.

[@jay-1800]

@@kobarsos82 I think his intelligence is exactly what’s going to be his downfall. I think things are going to keep going well for him to the point where he feels confident and ends up making a mistake or slip up that’ll cost him everything. Everyone has a piece of the puzzle to his overall scheming and treachery and as characters start coming together I think it’s going to come to light. As I mentioned I don’t know if Arya will slit his throat in winterfell or what but I definitely believe he’s going to make a mistake and will be confronted. He’s smart no doubt about that but I think he’s going to end up getting confident and complacent once he reaches a point where he feels like he’s won or everything is going to plan. Plus Bran ending up on the throne was one of the things GRRM told the show runners the story would end with.

[@NukeMarine]

The TV series was idiotic. Everything Sansa publicly accused against LF would have blown up in her face. She witnessed and covered up the murder of Lysa (a lord that heard that testimony is sitting in the room), she hid the confession of her aunt murdering Jon Arryn, she did denounce her father who really was trying to overthrow Joffery, Smart writers would have had the three Starks meet LF in the crypt to inter the bones of their mother (perhaps Arya got them from her idiotic massacre at the Twins), accuse him in private and end with Arya brandishing the knife. The next scene is Littlefinger leaving Winterfell seen off by Sansa and Bran and dozens of others to return to the Vail with Sansa and Royce in charge of the Vail army in Winterfell. On his side, the dagger that helped start a conflict that cost the Starks so dearly.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

They didn't run out of book material; why do you guys spread that lie with such ease? D&D made the choice to skip a metric f*ck ton of book material; they didn't "run out;" they literally skipped it

[@Ar1AnX1x]

writing a character like him must be hard to do no wonder GRRM is taking so long all these characters, interconnected storylines, conspiracy theories, massive events with many different little details that have to make sense together, every time I read the books I get why its so draining, it's too ambitious pretty much.

[@clownpendotfart]

I've heard him compared to Lord Gro of The Worm Ouroboros, though I never got far into that myself and I can't be sure if GRRM read it (though I have heard ASOIAF get accused of being in the vein of its Nietzchean amorality). The Primo Varicella, protagonist of the interactive fiction game that shares his surname, also seems like a combination of Littlefinger & Varys.

[@weedanwine]

The part that makes it most difficult is his style of writing, how he writes character by character gardener-style. It can mean writing one characters story can cause ripple effects to others. This issue grows for difficult situations such as what's happening in the Riverlands.

[@j-rey-]

And not just the sheer amount of characters and intrigue, but also the sheer genius of characters like Littlefinger, Varys, Tywin, and Tyrion. It takes extreme time and effort to write characters that intelligent. As the showrunners demonstrated with their complete inability to write smart characters when they stopped adapting book material

[@Ash.Crow.Goddess]

Littlefinger is basically Loki. So, not that hard.

[@Kvh47]

@@j-rey- true the smart characters were one of the biggest problems in the later seasons. Tywin died just in time but the others werent so lucky

[@sarabourgoin4747]

Love that you have Donald Sutherland as your Hoster Tully, fantasy casting lol

[@LadySophiaVelaryon]

Greetings Robert, As someone who didn't read the books and only watched GOT/ HOTD series, your videos and livestreams are so incredibly helpful in understanding the world of ASOIAF. Thank you 😀

[@rickwrites2612]

I want Baelish to win. He deserves it for his efforts. He sets almost everything in motion. Reminds of ORiley on Oz.

[@pokechamp3987]

Makes perfect sense IMO. It's satisfying to see a character who has both worked the hardest and smartest to also win the most. 🥇 This is why I think his end in the show felt undeserved.

[@christopherpenn9283]

This is one of my biggest excitements about the next book release, he is such a powerful man and has so much unknown impact on the story. love this video idea!

[@A-small-amount-of-peas]

There was a very small part of me that wanted Littlefinger to win. Just for the sheer longshot value of the lowliest lord becoming King of the world. Reminds me of Napoleon

[@rltw2753]

You’re a goofy

[@prairieskye]

Do not forget the grain and other food stores Littlefinger has stored. Huge wealth there & Winter is here

[@Mathemagical55]

Hiring the dwarfs for Joffrey's wedding was a brilliantly subtle touch. Littlefinger really was a master political manipulator.

[@johnpotts8308]

"In Winter, the Lone Wolf dies, but the pack survives". Littlefinger is the ultimate lone wolf, but the Starks are a pack.

[@BluePraetor]

They haven't been a pack since book 1, so at this point they're all lone wolves.

[@jurgenparkour9337]

Damn this is sad, for Petyr. Really sad

[@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru]

​@@jurgenparkour9337That slippery bastard deserves it

[@steffidas4785]

Indeed✌️the Starks were a pack✌️

[@syedshahrukhraza2923]

God, this is so freakin’ epic! A much more befitting end to Littlefinger’s master plan than what we got on screen. I would freakin’ love it if Littlefinger’s downfall is caused by his tried and tested technique failing for the first time; trying to turn everyone against each other worked in KL, it worked in the Eyrie,…… but it will not work in Winterfell. The Starks band together (with none of the ridiculous Sansa/Arya drama in S7) and Littlefinger finally meets a monster he cannot overcome with lies and deceit. So incredibly poetic. George, I’m begging you! We need you to deliver on this in Winds.

[@austinhall3937]

Going on a 14 hour drive and I'm going to be binging some of your content. Thanks for the fresh upload

[@ashleightompkins3200]

It would be interesting to see Littlefinger be brought down by the values that are the words of his obsession's (Cat) house. Family, loyalty, honour. Three things he knows nothing about.

[@ledanoir1239]

Duty*

[@ashleightompkins3200]

@@ledanoir1239 Damn it. Thanks for the correction

[@Wolfeson28]

Even with his plan "reveal" to Sansa in AFfC, I think we have good reason to question if that's really what he has in mind. The plan he describes to Sansa seems to go against so much of what we see from him earlier. First, I'm skeptical that Littlefinger would ever willingly allow Sansa to marry anyone other than himself. Secondly, his stated plan of using Sansa's marriage to Harry to rally the Vale behind a campaign to win back Winterfell is entirely at odds with his past tactics. That would mean leading a military campaign himself, something he has always avoided and that he has no qualifications for. Furthermore, it would be a campaign inherently against the Boltons and ultimately the Lannisters, which would force him to declare a definitive allegiance in a way that he has also avoided. Also, I doubt he's going to want Harry Hardyng dead anytime soon. Even with his political machinations, Littlefinger still needs a legitimate Arryn heir under his control in order to maintain his position. If both Sweetrobin and Harry die, Littlefinger has no more claim to ruling over the Vale. Given what we know about Harry's personality (he seems largely in the same mold as Robert Baratheon), it seems like Littlefinger could manipulate and sideline him relatively easily. The only way I could see Littlefinger wanting Harry dead is if he actually does let Sansa marry him, waits until they have an heir, *then* arranges Harry's death and marries Sansa himself. That would essentially repeat his strategy with Lysa, and allow him to remain as regent with both Sansa and her child under his control.

[@DayneandtheStars]

Great video as always Robert! 😊 I think Littlefinger is by far the best player in the game of thrones. He had none of the power, wealth or influence the other players had when he first started in politics. All the other players had those tools (except Varys, I think. Let me know if I'm wrong) to use to their advantage. And to think how strict the social hierarchy is in the seven kingdoms, it's incredible how far Littlefinger has already come. He really is very resourceful and I admire him tremendously even if I don't like him

[@panspermiapancakes]

I admire him as well. He is extremely cunning, resourceful, charming, and intelligent. All of which he works to his personal advantage. While manipulation isn't generally an admirable trait, he is incredibly good at it. When he starts making his moves, he isn't typically doing anything at all, he just stirred the pot and watched the chaos unfold and everyone else is unintentionally doing his dirty work for him. His only true rival that also has all these traits is Varys, but it's possible his grooming of Sansa backfires on him drastically since he's teaching her how he thinks and she is learning it all. As for Varys and if he comes from a powerful family and wealth, there isn't really any concrete evidence yet. There is subtle clues that he might possibly be of royal blood because he was used some type of ritualistic dark magic that typically requires kings blood, when he was castrated. If Varys came from a powerful home, it was either the Targaryen's or Blackfyre's. But to the point of your question, any connection to them would not be advantageous on his rise to power considering he would have to keep his lineage a secret or be beheaded. So, in many ways, Varys also had to work his way to the top. It is more likely that Varys is a Blackfyre, though. He served the Mad King Aerys and played a crucial role in the Targaryen downfall. He also kept his position in the royal court after the mad king was killed along with most of his family and loyalists. Varys is arguably more dangerous than Littlefinger because he keeps his secrets close and reveals very little, even to the readers perspective. Whereas with Littlefinger, the reader has a general idea of just how much damage he's creating.

[@stephenknizek2651]

I have always liked Littlefinger, and still hope he gets farther.

[@cristiansaucedo4707]

He will. Only question will be how high he climbs. If he were to make it as high as having some claim/plan against all of the 7 Kingdoms? Definitely want him to climb high. Will make it more poetic when he is within reach of all Westeros, maybe even hints at Essos and Sothoryos with a naval fleet at his command, and Sansa ruins it for him and uses it all for herself to make things right in Westeros. That should be his fate: working against everyone, thinking all his efforts were for himself alone and Sansa makes it all work for the benefit of the world instead.

[@mhougey]

little finger is such a great character.

[@Fangs1978]

A thing I have been wondering. Is littlefinger savvy about magic? He obviously can't *do* magic, but is he aware of it's presence and effects? He knows not to go to Harenhall so he could be avoiding the curse deliberately, and through all of his time scheming with Sansa they have either been on a boat or in the Veil of Arryn both of which are hidden from the weirwood network. So he might know about Bloodraven, or on some level be aware that someone unknown is pulling the strings. Or maybe he just want's Sansa to be separated from the Stark gods which also shows a degree of magical awareness.

[@luciamota1249]

The Eyrie is not free of the weirwood net. IIRC the throne and the gate where Lysa fell from are made of weirwood. Have you heard about the theory where the singing voices that Sweet Robin hears (even after Marillion dies) are coming or in some way related to the weirwood net? That also explains why he is obsessed with "flying". I used to think that LF must be aware at some extent about the "curse" of Harrenhall, but he does not give me the impression of being a believer in magic. He most likely was just busy scheming all he has done and no time to claim his castle, specially one that is in the middle of the war/battle but who knows, maybe he knows something, not that Harren cursed it, but the real reason why Harrenhall is cursed: its proximity to the God's Eye. All of the families who claimed it where aware about magic issues, Larys Strong comes to my mind and also the Whents and Lothstons. Even Daemon Targaryen dissapeared("died") there, and something that got my attention in HotD is that Daemon had a couple of scenes admiring the weirwood at the Red Keep... That place is weird, but not for the reason everyone thinks.

[@Fangs1978]

@@luciamota1249 "The garden is encircled by the castle's towers. It was intended to be a godswood, but no weirwood heart tree would take root in the stony soil." Yes, I know about the throne and the moondoor, but weirwood cut from the weirwood roots is also cut from the weirwood network. Sweet Robin was obsessed with flying long before Marillion showed up. So the flying obsession seems more like the Arryn version of dragon dreams to me, but there could definitely be more to it. I have considered the God's Eye if that is a factor then that's even more evading of the weirwoods by littlefinger. I have a half baked theory that Littlefingers endgame is to con people into believing that he is Azor Ahai. He might have read the same books Rhaegar had and now he is trying to set things up so he can imitate the prophecy in some way (you might say like a mockingbird) I need a fair bit more before I'm ready to commit to that one though.

[@kadaverf]

@@Fangs1978 I love your theory! I would love to hear more on it, when you want to tell about it

[@mrillis9259]

Arryns are wargs, but only able to warg, birds as is their sigil?

[@Fangs1978]

@@mrillis9259 The Arryns would undoubtedly prefer birds, but as far as we know there are no restrictions to what creature a warg can enter.

[@alexandertaylor7169]

Thanks for everything dude. You're like my audio-visual index page, anytime I want extra info on Tolkien/Martin I come here. Keep up the good work 🙌

[@tombombadil6591]

I love to put on these videos and listen to indepth on LOTR characters!

[@alexandertaylor7169]

@@tombombadil6591 tom-ba-bom-di-bom, evening sir!

[@lukehughes6943]

George has said that the human heart in conflict with itself is the only thing worth writing about, yet Petyr rarely seems in conflict with himself at all. He always has such a nonchalant sense of control, always two steps ahead, always knowing what to do and how it will progress him. You say he moved too quickly kissing Sansa, I beg to differ. I don't think he improvised his response to Lysa's emotions, he set them in motion, the way he has set everything in motion to date. I believe he knew she could see them, he made sure she would see them, he needed her to see them so he could put his next step into motion. I've often said Little Finger IS A Song of Ice and Fire, not in the prophecy sense, but the actual franchise. Without him, nothing interesting happens until a Targaryen finds their way across the sea. Petyr is the catalyst for everything that drove the story forward, he is my favourite character, the most important character, yet he breaks George's golden rule, how is that? I believe you're right in saying his house of cards comes tumbling down when Bran returns. In order for Petyr to be in conflict with himself, we have to figure out what that conflict would look like, it's obviously not going to be a moral conflict, he's proven incessantly that he's devoid of those, power is all he cares about and he's had such a flawless run on building it, so the shoe has to drop. He has to make an uncharacteristic mistake that costs him power, his conflict will be self deprecating, questioning how he could have messed that up and then realising that one mistake has a knock on effect that undoes everything he thought he'd secured himself. He needs to watch his lifes work crumble, and it needs to be his own fault. The only conflict that makes sense for him is that he outsmarts everyone, except himself. But what do you think? Let me know in the comments below.

[@pyropulseIXXI]

The conflict within himself is going to be obvious and easy to establish; he will be in the North, and he will be dealing with people that are all super loyal and full of honor; Ironically, whilst he thinks this will make it easier for him to manipulate everyone, he will fail at it, as he tries to predict how everyone will benefit him via his machinations playing off their selfishness, but this just won't happen. Thus, all LF has to do to succeed is to literally just stop manipulating people for this period, but he cannot, as that is who he is; that is the conflict, to go against his nature. He he can do this, he would win

[@clownpendotfart]

LF isn't a POV character, he's just antagonist. The Others don't have hearts in conflict, nor does Gregor Clegane, Vargo Hoat or Amory Lorch.

[@claytonschopfer8467]

@@pyropulseIXXI this is actually more or less what happens in the show. He has no reason to be turning Arya and Sansa against eachother but he does just because he can and then the supernatural Bran ends him. I always feel like seasons 6-8 of the show are what will happen in the book but in a much simpler and more shallow way of getting to the same conclusion

[@pyropulseIXXI]

@@claytonschopfer8467 It isn't the what that happens but the how and why; the show fumbled it. Just like Dany probably will snap in the books, but the setup and why will make a lot more sense and therefore it won't be bad

[@xabiervillanueva5147]

Littlefinger reminds me Napoleon: born in low nobility, mocked by his pairs, builds its own path to success by outsmarting everybody everywhere at all times. Yet Napoleon, being by far the smartest guy in the room (the overcompetent ruler and the unbeatable general), did commit an unexpected and fatal mistake: invading Spain. It was never in his calculations that the Spanish people would mount such an stark resistance (no pun intended 😅) against his theoretically invincible army. Similarly, I think Littlefinger will underestimate one of his foes (maybe the Starks?) or will face an unexpected enemy like "Young Griff" (like Napoleon when he idiotically decided to invade Russia). TLDR, even the best of the best end being caught in their own game.

[@vandergrad]

I really appreciate your videos. I have a hard time keeping track of all the threads being woven by each of the characters (just like I have a hard time playing chess because I cannot keep ahold of enough moves in my head). You do such a great job of clearly linking all the details in a way I can follow, which allows me to get so much more out of both the books and the shows. Thank you!

[@c.w.simpsonproductions1230]

Another interesting factor is that one of the shady rogues who Brienne encounters during her search is also said be hunting Sansa for Cersei’s reward, and later appears at the Vale tournament where Sansa is and interacts with her. So it’s likely that he will recognize her and attempt to attack or kidnap her, throwing another wrench into Littlefinger’s plans.

[@josephsmith6777]

Little finger is by far one of the most interesting characters he's definitely the best non pov

[@binks_live]

This is great!!! Please do the video on Lord Varys' master plan, I would love to know about that.

[@thebutcher1412]

Little finger was one of, if not the smartest of all the players for the game of thrones. Part of me hopes he doesn’t die in the books but I’m sure he will be punished for all the deceit and lies. He sets all these traps and all these moves of power all without lifting as much as a finger. Very smart and very intriguing to break down his story.

[@DexterTheDuck]

Littlefinger was my favorite charater in GoT. Until D&D kinda forgot how smart he is and made him into a dummy.

[@mikespangler98]

Littlefinger was not made a dummy. He made two mistakes. The first was not investigating Ramsey, he assumed Roose could keep him in control. So Sansa lost what little trust she had in him. The second was ignoring Bran's very clear warning to leave Winterfell. But he didn't understand the whole three-eyed raven thing (not his religion) and he was sure he could get rid of Arya and leave Sansa with no other counsel but his. Assuming GRRM ever finishes the books it will be interesting to see how the Ramsey Problem gets solved.

[@DexterTheDuck]

@@mikespangler98 yes D&D screwed up his character same for the spider and Tyrion. I hope GRRM redeems them all

[@capnstewy55]

Chaos is a ladder was a cool line when little finger said it, but when Bran said it back to him I freaked out like those guys who caught a leprechaun.

[@Ramschat]

Awesome! The only unrealistic part is how many of his plans actually work out, in real life even the most brilliant schemers are constantly surprised by unknown unknowns.

[@crystallkingh3048]

Honestly, I really want to see Littlefinger on the throne in winds of winter.

[@Galvatronover]

Won’t matter anyway don’t think beep survive

[@rltw2753]

That’s because you’re a goofy

[@serjaimelannister5152]

Everything he has done pitted one major house against another.

[@trevordelepine7708]

Biggest difference between Littlefinger in the TV series and in the books, is the Book version has a plan and uses the chaos to climb, Littlefinger in the TV Show is just fly by the seat of his pants, making chaos for chaos’ sake.

[@jakeneilson6060]

I like to think that Littlefingers fate will ultimately end through the moon door. It would make a great metaphor for his quick rise of power; aiming so high, reaching so far to just crash and fall. Poetic justice.

[@joshobrien3467]

Wow I really like this new presentation approach of yours, really enhances the viewing experience 👌

[@warsmithgalvinc4151]

This has reminded me I need to read the books again, my current point of reference is the TV show, many little details like who is Ramsey Bolton's wife and how it will effect the final picture are changed

[@DominicanStud101]

This video made my fire for The Winds of Winter blaze again!

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

Cheers Robert! You always make the rum flow easier with your content. Keep it up. Petyr is gonna shake things up in Westeros...

[@eric2500]

One thing is a problem with the Purple Wedding - The Queen of Thorns had every motivation to kill Joffrey AFTER her granddaughter got pregnant with he child, not before.

[@fakeplaystore7991]

Not really, if her goal was to marry Margery to Tommen in the first place. The marriage to Joffrey was DOA as soon as she got confirmation from Sands that he was a sadistic shithead - specially because, as someone (maybe it was her) mentions that Lorras would certainly end up killing Jeoffrey if he ever laid a finger on his sister.

[@eric2500]

@@fakeplaystore7991 maybe so, but in that case I suspect the poison was not in the wine, or not JUST in the wine. Margery had to survive the murder.

[@eric2500]

Sansa is learning to be a flirt and to feel her power as an attractive young woman, even though she is still in disguise. Petyr will feel attracted more and more, but he also plans to marry her to Harry the Heir, so his head will start to explode from that internal conflict. It will be a lot more complicated and fun than in the show. Not that Sansa might not have him executed at some point, after she is back in Winterfell. She is almost certain to be the Stark most likely to continue the line. If she has a kid, or one on the way, she will see that Petyr is a danger to that child, or want to rule herself if it is his. She can always have him executed for the crime of murdering Robin, which he is doing slowly.

[@petemiller1683]

Bravo that was a very insightful and point on analysis of littlefinger

[@MJX21414]

I HAVE BEEN SO DESPERATE FOR NEW ASOIAF CONTENT THANK YOU SIR

[@jinks908]

The only thing that bothered me about the Purple Wedding was that there is no way Littlefinger could have counted on Tyrion being the one to serve Joffrey the wine. That tension builds all on its own, and Joffrey just happened to make Tyrion bring him the wine. Had he ordered someone else to do it, the entire thing would have played out differently. But because it just happened to be Tyrion, not only would everyone witness this act, but also he would be left holding the chalice while Joffrey dies.

[@Bigtunaproductions09]

You never disappoint. Great video

[@nikagogibedashvili6476]

You are the author of the best LF theory, Robert - that Robert's rebellion started based on LF's lies. This video is also great, close to the actual material, bold in assumptions, but still very much within the realm of likelihood.

[@Akiba-dr4uk]

Honestly, I want Baelish to win. I like the Starks and all, but they are just insufferably honorable. And Littlefinger, although clearly not good, he is also not entirely evil. Not evil like Joffrey is anyway.

[@kevinbrady6075]

Great character and actor!

[@jackkennedy70]

Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, are given a chance to climb. They refuse, they cling to the realm or the gods or love. Illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

[@dr3dg352]

Littlefinger's monologue at the end of Sansa's final A Feast for Crows chapter gives me chills every time! Sansa, Stannis, and Cersei's storylines are what I'm most excited about for in The Winds of Winter. 💜 Will also be awesome to see what Skagos has in store for Davos.

[@TVGGAMEZCO]

GRRM is such a genius, but I have no idea how he is going to tie all of these stories together, all the hidden lore, the conspiracies…he gave everyone 12 years to comb over every detail of his story, so now he has to make it perfect and nothing less. An impossible task.

[@SB-qm5wg]

This guy made the show for me. If a spin off had just him and Tyrion sans magical lore/troupes; I'd watch it. Also his roles in The Wire, Mayor of Kingston, Peaky Blinders. He's a great villain. 👏

[@michaelf8221]

I officially did it. I finished all 870 videos you've posted to this channel over the course of almost 2 years. Thanks so much for creating some solid ASOIAF and Witcher (and Sherlock!) videos/theories over the years. I've really enjoyed using this channel as my daily podcast! Now on to the well told tale :P

[@sidsullivan194]

I think instead of him ending up wanting the throne as he told Sansa in the show, he should’ve told Sansa he wanted to give her the iron throne and he wanted to be by her side then. This would even create some internal conflict for Sansa who started off wanting to be a queen

[@galty1987]

Exceptional work as ever

[@oriesheppard8498]

You have a great narrating voice.

[@michaelbayer5094]

IF I remember the last book correctly: 1. Jon is still dead and there's a lot of weird magic at Castle Black. 2. Fake Arya and Theon have found Stannis's snowbound camp in the northern wilderness where Yara is prisoner. 3. Danny is lost somewhere north of Meereen and Barristan Selmy is ruling there and defending it. Tyrion and Mormont were enslaved by the beseigers but have murdered their master and are plotting their escape. 4. Varys has just snuck into the Red Keep and committed a bunch of murders. 5. Jon Connington and his Targaryen ward have invaded the Stormlands. 6. Jaime (and Brienne?) is on a "roadtrip" in the Riverlands. 7. The Martells are plotting revenge. 8. Davos has just persuaded the Manderlay's to switch sides 9. Archmaester Marwyn has left Old Town (lots of intrigue there) to seek Danny in the East. 10. Loras Tyrell is dying on Dragonstone. Into all this is Sansa's apprenticeship under Littlefinger, which she seems to be accepting and excelling at. It appears LF wants to restore Sansa to Winterfell. Except for Jon being and possibly resurrected, all these plot points are different from and immeasurably better than the TV show. George needs to finish and needs his own apprentice to carry on this work. The amount of writing that still must be published, including filling in gaps, fleshing out the past and the plot holes, could easily dwarf what has already been done in 5 books. And let's be clear: what infuriated fans about the show was just deviation from the books, but all the shortcuts and composite characters, and especially the unconscionable rush just to get the show over so B&B could move onto other projects. So, George, we want the books to completely finish the story.

[@yo1kelly2]

I thought Joffrey was murder by accident because the Tyrell’s wanted Sansa out of the marriage with Tyrion, so she can still marry into the Tyrell’s, but little finger took the opportunity to steal Sansa. Joffrey ate Tyrion’s cake slice.

[@susanbishop5349]

loved this, great stuff as always, thank you

[@Titantro]

I dont think Littlefingler planed for Ned to be killed. He tried to join him if Ned had accepted his plan they would have worked together. Also Ned has a dream were Littlefinger mocks him dressed as Robert

[@Hank..]

I imagine Littlefinger's ultimate plan is to take over the entirety of Westeros. After securing the North, the Vale, and the Riverlands, he'd do some string-pulling nonsense for a while in each of the three regions to secure his position, and once reliably in control, march south with the full force of all three regions. At that point, he'd secure alliances with those willing to work with him, and steamroll anyone who isn't. At least, that's the plan. I think Sansa will turn on him and position herself to betray him in a similar way to Littlefinger betraying Ned.

[@scottwilliams895]

Excellent, insightful video

[@stephenkellett7836]

This was so much more concise and well-structured then Preston Jacobs 5 part series. Thank you for this!

[@mayfield3314]

1:43 ...Hoster Tully... *Shows a drawing of Donald Sutherland.

[@marycanary86]

i hope we will actually hear the end of this story. im curious to see how sandor will eventually interact with the sansa/petyr dynamic, since sandor is the polar opposite of petyr, big, brawny, nearly devoid of ambition, and mostly what it says on the tin...

[@shamgar_6009]

Didnt joffery die in the purple wedding after eating tyrions pie? I could be wrong I read it a while back but I thought the poison was meant for tyrion in the books to get back at him for marrying sansa without the approval of the tyrells

[@ericvulgate]

This character was absolutely wasted in the series. His meaningless death at the hands of Arya killed any goodwill I still had for got.

[@Kubinda12345]

I think that his story will be very similar to the show's one. So it will be Sansa who will take down Littlefinger. It would be fitting since she's basically his apprentice and also a Stark, a family he wronged perhaps the most. I also think that he will die in Winterfell by being outsmarted by Sansa and Arya whom he wouldn't be able to divide like he did Catelyn and Lysa. But perhaps who would kill him would be Lady Stoneheart and not Arya.

[@davidstansbury9309]

Damn GRRM, every time I wanna forget about his next book, his wonderful universe sucks me back in. For the love of all that is holy, please finish this damn book.

[@steamyweenie4456]

Awesome few lines at the end there.

[@thehonestaspy102]

A fascinating character that really was done dirty in the later seasons! I can't wait to see the video on Varys masterplan.

[@patricklee5969]

For me, Littlefinger is an opportunist, not a long term strategist. He has been fortunate not to be discovered, especially with his bankrupting the 7 kingdoms. He's an outrageously great character, who escapes plots equally outrageously. His conversation with Eddard Stark, about Jofree , was incredible and for the reader great entertainment. P.S. Like many I've invested a good percentage of my time with SOIF. I look forward to the conclusion but make Martin a 1 to 9 underdog to finish.

[@heretic5579]

Littlefinger and Lady Stoneheart could be Azor Ahai and the Night Queen. He could plunge a sword into her stone heart. She’s the love of his life. Forged in water against Brandon Stark. Forged in a Lion by killing Joffrey. Forged in true love’s heart by killing Catelyn Stoneheart.

[@robertflintoft5614]

It depends how much George really can squeeze into 2 books haha but I doubt Littlefingers plan stops at 3 kingdoms and I can imagine a phase after Harold where he tries to link into the rise of Aegon to make her a Queen and would bring back together the game Littlefinger has been playing with Varys up until now

[@mrillis9259]

Plot twist, LF an Varys, are working together the whole time.

[@robertflintoft5614]

@@mrillis9259 could be fun but I feel like for narrative sense wise they work better as adveseres. I also like the fact that Varys an LF go about there goals in such different ways . Varys has adapted but stayed on course with a clear beginning and end point to their goal for like 2 decades where as LF sort of rides the wind and up untill not always knowing where to put his sail

[@mrillis9259]

@@robertflintoft5614 they appeared as adversaries.

[@Gunleaver]

One thing the video overlooked was the very high likelihood that Littlefinger embezzled the royal treasury. According to Ned, the Targaryens left behind a full treasury. Robert ruled over a peaceful and prosperous land for 15 years. There was one war, the Greyjoy Rebellion, that was over quickly, there have been no major building projects or other huge expenses that explain why real world medieval kings went bankrupt. The prizes for Ned's tourney are unusually high, but Robert would have to have been holding multiple tournaments on the same scale every year to deplete a full treasury and run several million into debt, especially when the royal income (according to the reports) is extremely high. Littlefinger, meanwhile, is extremely wealthy, talking casually about buying and selling businesses, and buying up the debts of noble houses, while wagering freely at tournaments, and dressing like a peacock. His own "estates" certainly don't account for that kind of income, much less any sort of seed money for investments, even with brilliant payoffs. Meanwhile, even a man as intelligent and well-read as Tyrion is having trouble understanding where the money has all gone, when reading through the kingdom's financial documents. The answer is almost certainly that Littlefinger is making up fake transactions, fake revenues, and fake expenses, taking out fake loans, and spending the money on fake investments, and pocketing all the cash himself. He is able to take these risks, because he knows that political upheaval is coming, which can be used to explain any number of discrepancies, or extreme expenses, and because he sticks to a pattern of using up a patron and then discarding them, as he did with Jon Arryn, and then Ned, and then the Lannisters, leaving dead men to take the blame. Another asset is Littlefinger's use of catspaws, whom he controls through appeals to their greed or other motives. His use of such men allows him to follow his maxim of keeping his hands clean, because they are not connected to him in ways the nobles of the realm understand traditional allegiance. To nobles, you are loyal in exchange for vows of fealty & service, where your lord takes care of you and you serve him, whereas people who serve for cash are craftsmen or merchants, on a transaction-by-transaction basis, or else mercenaries, whose service is inferior & untrustworthy. Littlefinger notes as much when they plot to suborn the allegiance of Renly's former allies, saying that lords get all outraged if you attempt to buy or bribe them outright. Instead, he uses other approaches, such as in buy up their debts, or catering to their vices, or in granting them opportunities they would not find elsewhere. There is no contract, no bond of allegiance, but these people still give Littlefinger what he wants, out of recognition of the value of doing so. He admits to controlling Ser Dontos by appealing to the chivalric aspect of his interaction with Sansa, and the Kettleblack brothers, using their familiarity as the sons of another retainer. He uses Lyn Corbray by playing off his enmity toward his brother, and his lack of funds, and Lothar Brune's rejection by his higher-ranking kin, calling on his own experience being "slighted" by the Tullys to understand them, It's also likely he was using Jon Arryn's squire, Hugh of the Vale, as an accessory and go-between in his intrigues with Lysa. Ned might have paid his armorer for the gear he died in, but It's unlikely he could have bought such a fine suit on spec before beginning his jousting career. Littlefinger probably gave him the money for the down payment, or promised to take care of the bills, and then had Gregor kill him to tie off that loose end and cancel his expenses. Both Tyrion and Stannis seem to believe that Janos Slynt is in Littlefinger's pocket as well, and he seems to have been ready for the order to kill Ned, which in all probability was suggested to Joffrey by Petyr, who would have wanted to ensure the order was carried out swiftly and smoothly, before wiser heads could prevail. Another possibility is Mandon Moore, the knight of the Kingsguard who tried to kill Tyrion during the battle of the Blackwater, who came from obscure origins in the Vale like Petyr himself. There is also mentioned, the men Littlefinger appointed to government positions in his capacity as Master of Coin, which probably began even before that, as he was rising through the ranks of the bureaucracy through Jon Arryn's patronage. These are not men of high birth, or with good social connections, instead they are younger sons, and commoners, ostensibly picked for merit, but almost certainly as well, beyond their abilities at doing the job, loyalty to Petyr, and a willingness to cook their books and give him kickbacks and so on, in cooperation with his own schemes to get rich. These are the sort of men who would never have these opportunities, except for Baelish's favor, and thus their loyalty or scruples are easy to suborn. That's the drawback of the system of loyalties and patronage that operate through most of Westeros. It's all very good at maintaining the existing loyalties, but not so good at producing people who are loyal to the government and the ethics of responsible administration. And people who don't have a lord to give them access to the system, don't have any loyalty to the system itself. The system isn't taking care of them, so why should they do the right thing, and live off their meager salaries, with no respect from the lords, when they can make much more money cooperating in Petyr's scams?

[@futureboy314]

Damn that ending. You’re a really good writer.

[@frankiebonifacio7223]

nailed it. excellent analysis

[@GravelordWrust]

I hate it when KZbin video makers say things like, "it'd take a whole other video to..." No, it wouldn't; this is KZbin, you get to decide how long you want a video to be, there isn't a limit. I would respect "I cannot be arsed to dive into that bit" way more lol. Other than that, this was great. Thanks.

[@cameronjadewallace]

Ngl, it's really hard being in the comments for this video, so I'm gonna ignore it. It's a well done video Robert, and I'm thrilled you made it.

[@musculusiv4172]

I love your videos you are by far the most sane and level-headed of the asoiaf theorists. I will say however I am 100% convinced that Littlefinger lied to Sansa about the purple wedding. Littlefinger tried to poison TYRION at the purple wedding and not Joff. If you re-read the passage you'll notice that the strangler (the poison that kills Joff) was in the PIE and not in the wine and Joff ate TYRIONS pie before dying not his own. It's clear that it was in the pie bc we know from Maester Cressen's death that the effect of the strangler starts immediately, but Joff is unaffected after drinking the wine at first and then he eats the pie and starts coughing. It also makes more sense for Tyrion to be the target. LF wanted him killed so he can eventually marry Sansa meanehile he had no motive for killing Joff (as he admits himself). Consequently I also believe that the part about Olenna's involvement was made up as well: she wasn't involved in this at all. LF just made this up to make the motive of Joffs assassination more plausible to Sansa. But when you think about it, if either LF or Olenna wanted to poison Joff (or anyone else) there would be absolutely no need to involve the other one, that would just make it more risky

[@Lon_Suder]

Excellent video!

[@Hangman1]

He is the One who deserves the most for the iron throne, he done so much for Power and throne is Power . Many characters of the story don't even care about power so much but he ... he no desire anything more than that.

[@krzysztofcyran3593]

Stannis deserves the Iron Throne, he defends the realm from invasions and rebellions.

[@Silburific]

Yes, a cruel, manipulative narcissist who cares about nothing but power- that's exactly what _the realm_ needs. That would totally fit in with a story that constantly shows how much suffering megalomaniacs like Petyr Baelish bring to all the innocents around them and routinely shows that even the unwashed masses can only tolerate so much neglect before they strike back.

[@Hangman1]

@@Silburific yes, just like real life

[@krzysztofcyran3593]

What he cares about is justice, and King's job is to be the law in a world where otherwise criminals run rampant. Lannisters broke wedding wows, Renly broke hereditary laws, wildlings were invaders, Starks tried to secess, now Greyjoys are rebelling, again. He is doing his job and he is doing it good.

[@Hangman1]

@@krzysztofcyran3593 Mad King wanted to burn everything and everyone alive, Aegon was like Hitler, he "united" whole kingdom by force , everyone who didn't like that burned from dragon fire or die in battle. Robert was like mad dog who chase his victim ( Robert rebellion ) but when he already got it , he have no idea what to do. He died killed by his wife, because Cercei he stand against wild boar being drunk ( in books it's clearly shown that she orchestrated his death ) . Stannis didn't hesitate to burn his daughter because some crazy witch told him that this will grant him good fortune from her good.... Every king in Martin books was a horrible tyrant hated by his ppl, no more no less than Littlefinger , just Petyr never thought about himself as a Good, honest or just person. Assholes above just opposite.

[@arturleperoke3205]

13:42 love your comparison to Ned in King´s Landing

[@pixstudios7708]

If little finger was the one who sits on the throne at the end i would have liked that, this guy thinks about ways to reach the throne every second he gets and if he cant climb up there that means no person without the correct bloodline can ever rule the kingdoms.