Is Varys manipulating Ser Barristan from afar?

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@siobhandolores
@siobhandolores 11 ай бұрын
AltShiftX and In Deep Geek should get some percentage of the profit for TWOW's sales because they keep the new book alive more than George or Random House does
@TheMijoAaron
@TheMijoAaron 11 ай бұрын
Dude I think about this shit all the time. If anything George just needs to hire these fucking asoiaf experts/historians and help him finish this shit. I genuinely believe these people have it more memorized and organized than George lol
@TheMijoAaron
@TheMijoAaron 11 ай бұрын
@@jessebourbeau1616 George hires Preston to help him finish his books. Please put me in that timeline.
@BadPotat
@BadPotat 11 ай бұрын
Actually I have to agree, these KZbinr have done, are doing, and will do far more for me than D&D ever have.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 11 ай бұрын
It’s kind of weird to think that at this stage many people have probably spent more time watching IDG, AltShiftX etc videos about ASOIAF than they have reading the books and watching the shows. I honestly look forward to the TWOW as much for the decade of KZbin analysis it will give us as for the book itself.
@colekuczek9812
@colekuczek9812 11 ай бұрын
@@TheMijoAaron He’s admitted to already using the wiki and a lot of other fan resources because yeah, he admits he doesn’t follow his own work as well as these historians
@rasmusliedberg
@rasmusliedberg 11 ай бұрын
“That’s what made Ser Barristan ragequit” Made me laugh out loud, that’s hilarious and quite accurate.
@sblinder1978
@sblinder1978 11 ай бұрын
9:22 Can't wait for Young Griff to summon a giant sandworm to Westeros
@georgeatkinson1770
@georgeatkinson1770 10 ай бұрын
Was just thinking hey, that looks like timmy 😂
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
Young Griff is secretly Muad' Dib.
@Anerdandhisphone
@Anerdandhisphone 10 ай бұрын
Lisan al Griff
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 10 ай бұрын
The great Lannister-Harkonnen alliance would rule the Seven Kingdoms after Tywin orders Cersei to marry the Baron. 👀🤔🙃
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
@@veritasinvicta8128I'm somewhere between laughing and crying at the thought of what that wedding night might be like...
@ShawnHCorey
@ShawnHCorey 11 ай бұрын
"Is Varys manipulating...?" Yes.
@alihijazi4451
@alihijazi4451 11 ай бұрын
Exactly!! 🤣
@memeaficionado
@memeaficionado 11 ай бұрын
Is varys manipulating varys?
@alihijazi4451
@alihijazi4451 11 ай бұрын
@@memeaficionado yes. Varys manipulates x, for all x in asoiaf
@Avatar_of_Chairness
@Avatar_of_Chairness 11 ай бұрын
Palpatine's behind it all!
@ShawnHCorey
@ShawnHCorey 11 ай бұрын
@@Avatar_of_ChairnessAh. That explains so much.
@P.O.Madness
@P.O.Madness 11 ай бұрын
The show did a bad job in portraying Barristan's internal conflicts during Joffrey's reign of terror. He was randomly never in the room when bad things happen.
@pyramidion5911
@pyramidion5911 22 күн бұрын
The showrunners seemed to understand all the technical aspects of filming a good show but they were lost when it came to understanding the story or how humans interact with one another.
@NukeMarine
@NukeMarine 11 ай бұрын
You listen to this and realize Varys likely had plans for both Ned and Robert's bastard shipping them both north to join the Night's Watch. Likely, both would have been "captured" en route and Ned given the option like Barristan to go to Essos to serve with fAegon. Of course Varys castling attempt was countered by Littlefinger who made to remove the rook (Ned) from the board. Seeing the bigger game at play is so much more fascinating with these deeper looks.
@clownpendotfart
@clownpendotfart 11 ай бұрын
Varys didn't do anything to capture Robert's bastard on the road.
@BAKED_P0TAT0e-d1
@BAKED_P0TAT0e-d1 10 ай бұрын
Varys was for the realm. He didn't favor anyone unless it was for the realm. So no, he wouldn't have those plans
@Rumkitty2000
@Rumkitty2000 10 ай бұрын
Varys knew about Jon?
@PineappleLiar
@PineappleLiar 8 ай бұрын
@@greenboots_4661 Ned was willing to quit being Hand in order to keep Dany from dying, I think Varys very much had reason to believe Ned’s loyalties had shifted. Mind you, I don’t think its a guarantee he’d go either, but I don’t think its an open and shut case either. The main difficulty is that Ned is so dang honor bound he’d probably still feel obliged to go to the Wall no matter what. There’s multiple different ways Ned could’ve been pulled after King’s Landing which is always interesting to think about. Rob and Cat would catch him halfway to the Wall and be like ‘no, idiot, you aren’t a criminal you aren’t spending the rest of your days freezing to death’, Littlefinger is actively sending assassins to go kill this thorn in his side, and Varys is trying to convince him a trip abroad would really do wonders for his mental health. Also Arya is there to throw a wrench in things.
@eric2500
@eric2500 25 күн бұрын
@@BAKED_P0TAT0e-d1 you sweet summer child!
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
@WatashiMachineFullCycle 10 ай бұрын
I've read these books so many times and somehow I didn't pay attention to that line from Cercei about Varys being the one to suggest Barristan take the fall for Robert's death. That's an insanely good catch, and I think you're right on the money about him.
@spensirmclife6549
@spensirmclife6549 10 ай бұрын
Okay people have probably had this theory before but the reason Illyrio gave Dany the dragon eggs was probably if they hatch there be 3 dragons, when they are secretly supporting 3 supposed Targaryens where all of them would be able to weaken the realm. Viserys burning the country alongside Dany, but Young Griff claiming the third, slaying the new mad king and marrying Dany as start of a new dynasty
@eric2500
@eric2500 25 күн бұрын
Or Dany could have has two hubbies at the same time. Targs, you know. Maybe she'd get rid of one of them at a time the way Cleopatra 7 did her brothers.
@pyramidion5911
@pyramidion5911 22 күн бұрын
​@@eric2500thats the idea Varys and co would want the general public to believe in. The actual goal is to clear all the pieces off the board and destroy the game for good.
@thepunisher6674
@thepunisher6674 11 ай бұрын
Barristan's betrayal could fit into Dany's three betrayals prophecy as the betrayal for blood, turning on her for Faegon who claims to be further in the line of succession
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 11 ай бұрын
Barristan's first oath was to the Iron Throne, for which he was betrayed. His second oath was to Dany specifically. I can't imagine him breaking an oath for the first time at such an old age because of Westerosi law.
@thepunisher6674
@thepunisher6674 10 ай бұрын
@@skynyrdjesus Barristan wouldn't be betraying for Westorsi law but for what his code of honor says is right and because Faegon is said to be Rheagars son who is someone Barristan believed in. I could be wrong it is just a theory after all.
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 10 ай бұрын
@@thepunisher6674 Oh, by Westerosi law I meant the line of succession. Either way though I don't see such a thing happening unless for some reason Barristan is sure Dany is dead. He stood by and watched as men he respected burned out of duty and loyalty to his word, and he's given his word to Dany.
@thepunisher6674
@thepunisher6674 10 ай бұрын
@@skynyrdjesus I do think barristan is a man who stands by his word but barristan also stands by his duty and as a kingsguard knight he swore to protect the rightful king and its entirely possible he stays loyal to dany but also entirely possible he betrays her for Faegon its all about where GRRM takes the story.
@josharguello4313
@josharguello4313 10 ай бұрын
​@@skynyrdjesusI believe it's possible for Barristan to betray Dany. There are subtle hints peppered through Dance that he not always agrees or approves of Dany's decision. The next part goes into a lot of speculative territory but hear me out. It's very likely that Tyrion will come into Dany's service, as seen on the show. But unlike the show, Tyrion isn't serving Dany because he believes in her as a leader. He is using her as a tool for his revenge. Tyrion will feed and enable Dany's worst impulses, which might further alienate Barristan. If he believes that Dany is tainted with Targ madness, and if he believes Aegon is Rhaegar's son, that may be enough for him to switch allegiance. GRRM has often said that the only thing worth writing for is the heart in conflict with itself. What's a better internal conflict for Barristan than having to choose with Targ heir to serve?
@purplexninjamom
@purplexninjamom 11 ай бұрын
Something I never thought about. But that makes sense. Nice. Thank you!
@marvelerful1
@marvelerful1 11 ай бұрын
the Timmy Chamms AI Faegon art sent me omg I swear lmao
@mr.snulch
@mr.snulch 10 ай бұрын
Same I was looking for this comment
@ReasonablyPliant
@ReasonablyPliant 3 күн бұрын
It honestly distracted me from this otherwise very interesting breakdown
@AndrewK23777
@AndrewK23777 11 ай бұрын
Great vid IDG and HoW. Really well done as usual , some aspects haven't thought about in a while and some presented clues / evidence i've either forgotten or missed previously. Knowing Varys' current aim is to destabilize and weaken the current Westerosi monarchy and encourage some chaos in the realm until his champion (fAegon) makes his move. Makes perfect sense for Varys to be engineering Selmy's removal and influencing some of the manner of and reaction to that dismissal to push Barristan where V wants him to go. Selmy is a super honorable , loyal and legendary knight / kingsguard , losing him is a massive blow to the Lannisters ; despite Cersei and Joffrey predictably not realizing that. Whoever Selmy links up with automatically gets a degree of good favor , prestige and legitimacy. So makes sense to bring him over to team fAegon / Young Griff directly or indirectly and / or to Dany who is still potentially in their plans to link up with their claimant (Young Griff) via marriage or otherwise. Until they figure out no chance of that as DT is beyond their control. As the vid mentions still leaves the chance that placing Selmy on Team Dany for the moment leaves the possibility of him coming over to team fAegon later on. Less directly if they can persuade Dany to join forces with fAegon one way or the other (which isn't happening). Or more directly via playing on Selmy's prevailing long held ingrained loyalties to the Targs and defect over to team fAegon. Who Selmy may eventually view as the better Targ alternative. And with Varys' and Illyrio's plans for symbols of legitimacy with fAegon - likely the sword Blackfyre , ( I also suspect Aegon I's lost crown eventually) Jon Conn (former Hand to an actual Targ king & Targ loyalist who served / fought for the Targs) Rolly / Duck as fake Dunk , eventually Darkstar as fake Arthur Dayne etc. Bringing over Barristan an actual legendary warrior , knight and kingsguard (to multiple monarchs) with a stellar reputation who brings the prestige , legitimacy , honor and seriousness of their claim to another level ; would certainly fit their M.O.
@LOSTKILLERDRAENEI
@LOSTKILLERDRAENEI 11 ай бұрын
I doubt Ser Barristan would betray Dany after she has given her trust to him. But he may have major problems with her and end up conflicted when he can't advise her as she goes into a conquering mood, the human heart in conflict with itself.
@d00mf00d
@d00mf00d 10 ай бұрын
"a tower to die in and servants to bury me".
@Andrew2k18
@Andrew2k18 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Varys basically told Barriston “We got you a nice retirement condo in Boca Raton and a nursemaid to spoon feed you oatmeal”. Easy to see how Varys knew that would tick him off
@omgblastbeatslol
@omgblastbeatslol Ай бұрын
Boko Haram? No wonder he rage quit.
@Higfoot
@Higfoot Ай бұрын
Boca, don’t go down there enough
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 10 ай бұрын
Ah! Now I get it. The show didn’t really give us any indication that Barriston didn’t feel good about being in Robert’s kings guard or joffrey’s; he just seems to immediately go to Dany after being forcibly retired and greatly insulted by Joffrey & Cersei. I wondered about his true loyalty because of that. I’m reading the books now, but am only on A Clash of Kings, so this was helpful. Thank you!
@RA10H56
@RA10H56 11 ай бұрын
Well said. I had some thoughts that things fell into line for the dragon queen to perfectly at times
@richardtabor8686
@richardtabor8686 11 ай бұрын
yuuuusss! I didn't know I needed this in my life today. ty for the content!
@bhorrthunderhoof4925
@bhorrthunderhoof4925 10 ай бұрын
A very complicated intrigue indeed! I want to see more of In Deep Geek, much more!
@shawnhenderson2091
@shawnhenderson2091 11 ай бұрын
These are so fantastic, I hope you start doing Robin Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings and Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere one day too, lots of lore and world building in those ones as well
@scottanthonyweidner8692
@scottanthonyweidner8692 11 ай бұрын
And John Gwynne’s novels
@rustiouk760
@rustiouk760 10 ай бұрын
​@@scottanthonyweidner8692fab books, especially the first series
@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 9 ай бұрын
So what was Varys and Illyrio's original plan? I'm talking way back when Varys went to work for Aerys. Unless Young Griff is several years older than he appears, there was no child for them to put on the throne.
@doughnutnizzle2620
@doughnutnizzle2620 10 ай бұрын
I really love that the Faegon art is just ai Timmothy chalamey
@mr.snulch
@mr.snulch 10 ай бұрын
That’s some interesting hypothetical casting at 9:21. I could see that working haha
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 11 ай бұрын
Seems to me that the biggest error in ASOIAF was Stannis leaving KL at Jon Arryn's death. If he allied with Ned and Barry Big Bollocks on the small council, Cersei would be pretty much fucked. Especially since the gravity of such a powerful bloc would draw Renly into its orbit
@shaelynmartin1996
@shaelynmartin1996 10 ай бұрын
I mean, really the biggest error was Catelyn just deciding on a whim to kidnap Tyrion because he said hi to her in a tavern. After sitting there and thinking about how she couldn't allow for war to happen. Thus causing a war. I mean, the majority of the conflict in the first book is directly caused from that singular decision and what comes of it. Everything from Ned sending off his men to get Gregor to stop pillaging to Jaime killing Ned's men and causing his leg to become broken, both actions leaving Ned basically defenseless when he needed it. I'd even argue that Tyrion not being in King's Landing indirectly caused Ned's death, since Joffery only seemed scared of and listened to two people: Tywin and Tyrion. Catelyn caused the game of thrones, got her husband and son killed, her eldest daughter held captive for years, her youngest daughter homeless, and her youngest sons out in the wild after nearly dying when Winterfell was taken over. Hell, she was the one who convinced Ned to accept the role of Hand in the first place due to her sister's letter. If chaos is a ladder, Catelyn was the winner of that race.
@MeeraReads
@MeeraReads 9 ай бұрын
Stannis didn’t know Ned, only that Ned was Robert’s bestie. And Stannis couldn’t stand Robert. From his perspective, it was better to take the fleet and keep his position. Robert was in his 30s and reasonably healthy despite his weight and alcoholism. And Cersei straight up admitted that she had Robert done in much sooner than she intended. And as Littlefinger pointed out, Stannis was formidable in his own right but had zero charisma and little political sway. Stannis had part of the Crownlands but Renly had the Stormlands. And Renly was in the pocket of the Tyrells. No, there wasn’t much Stannis could have done unless Robert publicly disowned Cersei’s children, and even then there may have been a 3 way civil war
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 9 ай бұрын
@@MeeraReads and doesn't have any reports about what he's like? Just assumes he's exactly like Bob? No wonder he lost if he's that bad at gathering Intel
@MeeraReads
@MeeraReads 9 ай бұрын
@@jeanpaulsinatra there are reports and there’s *knowing* someone. Ned spent his whole life in the North, save for the war and being fostered with Jon Arryn as a boy. As Ned himself says, going south changes people, being at court changes people. Stannis knew Ned had a general reputation for being honorable and treating his own people well, but Ned had never been a member of the small council. Ned had never lived in the south. Intel can tell you what a person is doing, what moves they’re making and who their friends are. But acting like Stannis’ greatest flaw was not being a mind reader or not reading the books is a little absurd. He was a bad politician with a chip on his shoulder. That’s a big enough flaw, not sure why you’re looking for additional reasons to be nasty
@rai2423
@rai2423 6 ай бұрын
@@shaelynmartin1996People make bigger deal out of everything Cat does then they need to. Even George has said that.
@Derekivery
@Derekivery 11 ай бұрын
The list of who Varys ISN'T manipulating is far shorter than the list of everyone he is.
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 11 ай бұрын
Is Varys manipulating Hotpie? Is Varys manipulating Sam? Is Varys manipulating the 3EC?
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
@@jeanpaulsinatraHe's probably figured out a way.
@capysarah
@capysarah 10 ай бұрын
​@@jeanpaulsinatrais Varys manipulating Ser Pounce?
@jeanpaulsinatra
@jeanpaulsinatra 10 ай бұрын
@@capysarah that's so silly it can only be slander. Tell me, when did the eunuch get to you?
@conniesuper9892
@conniesuper9892 11 ай бұрын
Oooh...nice catch!!!
@thekhan1987
@thekhan1987 11 ай бұрын
great video man. I enjoyed it
@toboraton
@toboraton 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Let's see one on if Jeffery was a good and just king!
@hardrocksuk
@hardrocksuk 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! Great content as always :)
@marjoe32
@marjoe32 11 ай бұрын
Kids wake up(i don't have kids) In Deep Geek just uploaded a video
@samuelleask1132
@samuelleask1132 11 ай бұрын
Muster the Rohirrim!
@HabeeShirzad
@HabeeShirzad 11 ай бұрын
Whose kids you waking up? 🤔
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886
@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886 10 ай бұрын
If you get married and have kids, they will be old enough to read ASOIAF before the Winds of Winter is published.
@jacquereynolds4911
@jacquereynolds4911 Ай бұрын
This is what we trained for.
@toddterrace153
@toddterrace153 11 ай бұрын
As always top notch!
@zanitzeuken
@zanitzeuken 10 ай бұрын
09:52 Dany looking ROUGH....
@briansamuel5846
@briansamuel5846 11 ай бұрын
Nice work on the video bro
@Richard_Nickerson
@Richard_Nickerson 11 ай бұрын
Is Varys manipulating ____? Yes. The answer is *always* yes.
@JohnTorres1987
@JohnTorres1987 10 ай бұрын
The answer to any question about Varys manipulating someone else has always been “yes.”
@BarbokVA
@BarbokVA 5 ай бұрын
I haven't read the books but watching these videos make me so sad about what they did to him in the show
@15P3R14
@15P3R14 10 ай бұрын
Varys spiriting people to the east is a permanent theme in the books. Some say Tyrek was sent east to further Varys and the fat mans plans.
@veritasinvicta8128
@veritasinvicta8128 10 ай бұрын
I had absolutely forgotten that exchange between Cersei and Tyrion. It does make absolute sense that Varys would seek to weaken the Kingsguard. Yes, it does all make sense. Excellent surmisal.
@vanessalory623
@vanessalory623 11 ай бұрын
Well, for sure he won't die in a pointless street fight against the Sons of the Harpy, so that's a relief. But if GRRM has shown us anything, it's that purely honorable people die, so chances are high we'll be losing Selmy soon. If WoW ever gets published, I'll be very interested in how it plays out 😏
@Levacque
@Levacque 11 ай бұрын
He's also an old man, and I think we will see a lot of the "Old Man Goes Hunting for Non-existent Game" trope once winter sets in. It's an inherently noble, self-sacrificing action, so it would work well for Barristan.
@lluewhyn
@lluewhyn 10 ай бұрын
"What do you imagine they'll think when they see Ser Barristan the Bold riding beside Robb Stark or Stannis Baratheon?" PR and Public Image management is a HUGE theme of the books, and why a subject like "honor" is a much more complicated subject in them as well. People like Ned are shown in the last book to have some advantages because of their reputation for justice and fairness over someone like Tywin, whose funeral is almost a point of mockery. The Show simplified this to "Whoever schemes and backstabs the most wins the Game of Thrones" and has themes like "Honor gets you killed".
@andersfrieden567
@andersfrieden567 9 ай бұрын
You could argue when people in the North rally behind Robb and later John Snow, it's because of Ned's reputation.
@JooDawg
@JooDawg 15 күн бұрын
More story than George will ever put out. Thanks!
@BestBFam
@BestBFam 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for your fun to watch videos.
@samclontsii3548
@samclontsii3548 11 ай бұрын
Another Friday banger!!!
@ariyune7007
@ariyune7007 11 ай бұрын
If this is true I feel for Barristan, he really can't catch a break.
@MrBrianbeyer
@MrBrianbeyer 11 ай бұрын
appreciate you
@WeesanTV
@WeesanTV 11 ай бұрын
Nice video!
@KipIngram
@KipIngram 10 ай бұрын
You: "Is Varys manipulating..." Me (interrupting): "Yes."
@larson0014
@larson0014 10 ай бұрын
I wonder what varys was doing when the mad king ruled, was he helping the small folk? doubt it. And why would he want to go back to that
@thatdude1853
@thatdude1853 11 ай бұрын
Could you make a video explaining King’s Blood? Is King’s Blood Targaryen blood, or is it the blood of anyone declared king or related to someone declared king?
@AndrewK23777
@AndrewK23777 11 ай бұрын
In Deep Geek has a vid labeled "What is Blood Magic" if memory serves and a substantial portion covers the King's Blood concept and his theories about it.
@jeambeam3173
@jeambeam3173 11 ай бұрын
It seems to be the later but its curious to how that works exactly. As Euron scarifices a women pregnant with his child for the Kings blood. My question then is to the Starks have Kings blood or does it magically become unimportant after they bend the knee to somebody else
@willherondale6367
@willherondale6367 11 ай бұрын
9:30 Young 'Mua'dib' Griff
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
Just what I was thinking - his *eyes* should be blue, not his hair! 😆
@charlesjermyn5001
@charlesjermyn5001 10 ай бұрын
Well yes... I mean yes, how anyone could have doubt it: Varys fired Barry and a few months later he is dispatched as a body guard to Daeny who is Illyrio's protegee... how small the world is x)
@byjordi2185
@byjordi2185 10 ай бұрын
Just imagine that Barristan kills Dany in the end The most bittersweet thing that could possibly happen The noblest of all figures ends in the same way the "counterpart" Jamie he despised the most. By killing the monarch he swore to protect for the greater good of the realm and all those innocents, :D
@rai2423
@rai2423 6 ай бұрын
That would be even more pointless and anticlimactic than the show ending. It’s pretty clear Dany’s death will be a magical one.
@NEIGH6699
@NEIGH6699 11 ай бұрын
Excellent, I didn't notice this
@Lionheart2814
@Lionheart2814 10 ай бұрын
I always thought a great scene would be Jamie bursting into the throne room to find Barristan having had to kill a Mad Dany, and instead of judging him like Ned and later Barristan judged him, Jamie understands.
@rai2423
@rai2423 6 ай бұрын
Why are so many of you making the throne more important than the fight for the dawn. Why would a character like Dany die in a throne room?
@Lionheart2814
@Lionheart2814 6 ай бұрын
@@rai2423 Because George has always stressed the importance of the scouring of the shire after the climax at Mt. Doom. The final resolution for the throne is his scouring of the shire. It isn't more important just because it could happen after. It's not like the threat will be ended and then George writes, THE END
@rai2423
@rai2423 6 ай бұрын
@@Lionheart2814 I understand that, I just don’t see how that is relevant for Dany’s character. She is just too magical and otherworldly for that. I think the whole “scoring of the shire” is much closer related to a character like Bran(I’m well aware of how magical he is too) seems like Dany is one of those character’s that has to die during the battle for the dawn, before the story can end. Putting so much emphasis on who sits the iron throne or whether or not Dany is mad or not feels very far from who George is as a writer. Cheapens the story really.
@pauldrake2245
@pauldrake2245 5 ай бұрын
"Dany's story in the Winds of Winter will be a darker one," "disregard for innocent life," etc. If that is in fact what Martin is contemplating, I hope he thinks long and hard about that, given how abysmally that played out in the show. Perhaps he can pull it off in a way that is more compelling? Or finds a way to still access Dany's strong compassionate side, with a less linear downfall. The story already has a mad queen in Cersei, and while he excels at showcasing "the heart in conflict with itself,," on some level punking your readers with gotcha switches is not needed to show that everyone can make good and bad decisions.
@AJDraws
@AJDraws 10 ай бұрын
Something I have been wondering about lately that I would LOVE for you to discuss, or make a video on, is the following: You relayed a theory that the Seasons may be unbalanced because of an enormous magical fallout, or some kind of cataclysm that may be the creation of the Others by the Children of the Forest... Could it be possible that the Wall in the East at the Five Forts, may have been a similar construct created by either the Deep Ones or the Children from an even earlier cataclysm? As it says those cities are older than time and are made from Dragonglass (or is assumed to be) and as Asshai is clearly a victim of that calamity, being a shadow of its former self. And could it stand to reason that the inhabitants of K'dath and/or the builders of Bone Town (which are the same people in my head canon, as the bones are probably from victims of K'dath's rituals) are the cause of this? Since even the Cannibals and the Winged and Bloodless Men seem to fear K'dath and it is smack dab in the center of everything that the Five Forts was built to defend from? I saw a video on some figure similar to the Night's Queen, but more like Vlad Dracul in description who lived or ruled around Asshai or the Forts but can't seem to find it now. It would also be really intriguing to here your theory on what may have caused such tremendous wounds on Ancalagon the Black before he return from the East with the then sickly Aerea Targaryen? I saw an interesting theory that she may have been the victim of a parasitic worm, but what the devil could harm the Black Dread!? He obviously won, or escaped, but still. It must have been a significant foe, or foes to have inflicted the wounds described on his body! Perhaps another dragon? Perhaps a Giant astride a mammoth, but it seems to be described as claw marks.
@alexmartin3143
@alexmartin3143 11 ай бұрын
Lets just hope it’s not how he manipulated Kevan…
@BadPotat
@BadPotat 11 ай бұрын
This clicks together so easily it makes so much sense. Also your Faegon images are AI yes but do you know if Timothee Chalamet was used cause if not then we know who they need to cast.
@dromankass8655
@dromankass8655 11 ай бұрын
One thing I never quite got about Vary was how come he didn't get sent to the Black Cells alongside Ned during the succession crisis? I mean, there he is, going into the throne room along with Janos Slint, the Gold Cloaks, Littlefinger and Ned, and the Stark Guards to face down and apparently remove Joffrey as king. Now as we all know, Littlefinger springs his trap, holds a knife to Ned's throat and the Stark Guards are cut down by Janos and the Gold Cloaks & Lannister Guards. Littlefinger can obviously get out of this by telling Cersie and Joffrey that 'he was on their side all along, and be his actions has demonstrated loyalty to their cause by drawing out and foiling this Stark attempt to take power. (Though had Ned been willing to be more ruthless, take Renley's offer and seize Joffrey earlier, I'm sure that Littlefinger would have secure the loyalty of the Gold Cloaks for him, and been at Ned's side when he took the Iron Throne, and Cersie saw the inside of the Black Cells . . . ) But my question, is as Ned is captured in the Throne Room, and led off to the Cells, what does Vary do? Why isn't he killed or arrested along with Ned? He didn't seem to have been in on Littlefinger's betrayal, and Littlefinger hardly has an reason to keep his rival alive, why not have him killed in the confusion. And I can't see how Varys square this all with Cersie and Joffrey - what did he say 'Oh, I marched into the room with the Hand and all his men to remove your son from the throne, but I'm really on your side trust me?' Let me know how you think the Spider got out of that one? Mind you, had Vary actually ended up chained to the wall in one of the deepest, darkest Black Cells, he would most likely sighed to himself, waited three days for the murder and killing to stop, and the normal life in the Red Keep to resume, with the servants mopping up the blood, and then he would have reached up to a secret brick by his chains, pulled it out, taken out the key he'd put their years back, unlocked his chains, unlocked the cell door, put on his 'Jailor Outfit' that he uses to masquerade as a guard in the Black Cells, take the secret passage on the left, sneaked into the Royal apartments under cover of night, poisoned Cerci's wine with some Dornish Poison, and left the bottle and close by, then visited Joffrey and murdered him too, leaving a Golden Rose. Then exiting the Red Keep and the City, to take ship to Pentos, leaving King's Landing in chaos and the Realm closer to all out Civil War, as Dorne and the Reach are blamed by Tywin for these assassinations, and boy-king Toman can try and hold the throne without the help of the Tyrell alliance.
@Magooch86
@Magooch86 11 ай бұрын
I think the simple answer is that Varys knew that there were 2 possible eventualities: Ned takes Joffrey hostage or Ned gets arrested, and he planned for both. Littlefinger would need hard evidence to get Varys locked up, otherwise Varys could use his network to take Littlefinger down with him. It's safer if they keep their fragile truce.
@clownpendotfart
@clownpendotfart 11 ай бұрын
Varys wasn't one of the people like LF that Ned confided in about his plan.
@BlackAshes6
@BlackAshes6 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see a deep dive as to who was the most “powerful and influential” person in the GoT universe
@whittenaw
@whittenaw 10 ай бұрын
Alright you've convinced me
@freemantle85
@freemantle85 11 ай бұрын
Aegon VI/Young Griff looks like Timothée Chalamet in those pictures
@cardenova
@cardenova 10 ай бұрын
Keep up the ASOIAF content! Love it
@mvinson8706
@mvinson8706 5 ай бұрын
Where can i find that blog post? Love your content
@StanHalen420
@StanHalen420 6 ай бұрын
Makes sense, especially in the book since Selmy doesn’t get killed off.
@Kaminsod1
@Kaminsod1 10 ай бұрын
Always love these videos but i honestly doubt we will ever see the next book.
@willtuesca8118
@willtuesca8118 10 ай бұрын
Barriston isn't an oath breaker. Fagon or not, he's stuck with Dany
@zer0phasez
@zer0phasez 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@archmage_of_the_aether
@archmage_of_the_aether 11 ай бұрын
I grow to suspect one of the reasons Winds of Winter is taking so long, is JRRM subscribes to this Channel, and is aesthetically forced to rewrite the better idea into the book.
@darrengibbs4216
@darrengibbs4216 11 ай бұрын
I have had similar thoughts many times in grave seriousness
@clownpendotfart
@clownpendotfart 11 ай бұрын
John Ronald Reuel Martin?
@archmage_of_the_aether
@archmage_of_the_aether 11 ай бұрын
@@clownpendotfart Jorje Ronaldo Reagano del Martin
@thekhan1987
@thekhan1987 11 ай бұрын
Faegon looks like Timothy Charlamet
@IcelaDivine
@IcelaDivine 8 ай бұрын
It took me this long to catch the connection/meaning between Varys’ sobriquet of “The Spider” and the pulling of strings 🙃🤦🏻‍♀️
@ManforSomeMarkets
@ManforSomeMarkets 26 күн бұрын
7:24 Stuff of legends
@K8theKind
@K8theKind 10 ай бұрын
“Rage-quit” gamer colloquialisms! I KNEW IT!!!!
@Torquatoland
@Torquatoland Ай бұрын
hello, where can I find that Martin quote about dany
@Kriegerdammerung
@Kriegerdammerung 11 ай бұрын
The more appropiate question would be who is not Varys manipulating?
@scottanthonyweidner8692
@scottanthonyweidner8692 11 ай бұрын
8:18 - isn’t this a major, credible theory of a big part of why we don’t have Winds? That George wrote himself into a corner by killing off Kevan too soon?
@aegorbittersteel2154
@aegorbittersteel2154 11 ай бұрын
Yes for YOUNG GRIFF!!!!!!!
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
Looked like young Paul in the images...
@HouseGraham048
@HouseGraham048 11 ай бұрын
If you remember barristan originally arrives to Dani as the squire for strong belwas who was a former pit fighter that illyrio hired to send to Dani. So yeah of course Varys was pulling the strings.
@uriustosh
@uriustosh 11 ай бұрын
I've just about had enough of you lot showing the utter disrespect to the One True King of Westeros, Aegon VI. For your information smarty pants, Aegon VI, aka Young Griff, is a good lad. He was raised in poverty, he worked hard his whole life, he washed his own clothes, has been educated like any noble, and he wipes his own backside. Did I mention he's a good lad? Yea. Now put some respect on his name! AEGON VI the One True King of Westeros, and a good lad.
@Rigel560
@Rigel560 11 ай бұрын
😂😂 this is gold
@BalooSJ
@BalooSJ 11 ай бұрын
There's no such thing as a true king. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords might be a poor basis for a system of government, but at least there's an element of choice there instead of just the random chance of genetics.
@christophermedlin5889
@christophermedlin5889 11 ай бұрын
Stannis I Baratheon is the one true king
@ashleyofnaath
@ashleyofnaath 11 ай бұрын
Mark my words- Ser Barristan was spared and given a promotion because he told Ned where Lyanna was. Also, it tickles me that Barristan took the time to record his own dismissal in the White Book. Nice video.
@AlanOLeary209
@AlanOLeary209 11 ай бұрын
He never would have betrayed Rheagar like that. After the children were killed in kings landing in the GOT lore Ser barristen said that if Robert had gloated over the children's dead bodies with tywin no army in the world would have saved him from him.
@Manchester77OT
@Manchester77OT 11 ай бұрын
No chance of that imo , not only would Barristan not betray Rhaegar on top of knowing the horror of what happened to Elia and her children. If Barristan even knew , he wasn't letting that slip ; no way is he betraying his fellow kingsguard stationed there at the ToJ - including his Lord Commander (Gerold Hightower) and Arthur Dayne an equally legendary knight / kingsguard member whose sister he was in love with no less.
@unintelligentlifeform7180
@unintelligentlifeform7180 10 ай бұрын
I am interested to see what happens with Jon in all this....I feel confident that he will survive yet....maybe he doesnt? I feel like his parents are a major factor in the story and hopefully he has a bigger role to play. But once again, great video. I often wonder what things would be like if Ned had been allowed to serve at the Wall....would he and Jon be major players in the coming battles? Would the North even allow Ned to be placed at the wall?
@tijnhollanders6932
@tijnhollanders6932 10 ай бұрын
I. Cant. Wait. For WoW
@KRIL89
@KRIL89 11 ай бұрын
Maybe we can get a Varys masterplan
@nnn8648
@nnn8648 11 ай бұрын
Just starting season 5, can't wait to see what Dave and Dan have in store for Barristan!
@Prawnsly
@Prawnsly 11 ай бұрын
Ohh...
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry...
@jikGeek
@jikGeek 15 күн бұрын
Gui started out LEGIT BUSTED. But that status reels was amazing and turned the battle for sure 👌 great job. Shame about the drop from Gui. Onto Djossseeeeeeeee
@andrewhead1840
@andrewhead1840 10 ай бұрын
Hi Robert, I can’t find your playlist concerning why there must always be a stark in Winterfell and what is hidden beneath the Crips of Winterfell. I’ve gone to your oldest videos and tried to find it through there. That’s how I originally found it, but I can’t find it if you or someone could provide a link that would be much appreciated. :-) I’m trying to show someone the latest video in that playlist.
@ddmarsh21
@ddmarsh21 17 күн бұрын
5:40 Varys made Ser Barristan “rage quit” 😂
@josharguello4313
@josharguello4313 10 ай бұрын
Barristan's sense of honor is interesting because to an outside observer, it may seem like no honor at all, quite the contrary, he may even appear as a bit of a turncloak. He was a member of the Kingsguard under Aerys. The Targaryens lose the war and then he is promoted to serve Robert, the very man that depose the king Barristan swore to protect. Then after he is dismissed, he seeks out Dany. And I fully subscribe to the idea that Barristan will switch sides again, to Aegon. During my last re-read of ADWD, I caught something interesting, during Dany's chapters. There were several instances were Dany was in audience with petitioners seeking her judgment. And in several if these occasions, Barristan disapproves of Dany's judgment. He is much too proper to openly disagree with his Queen. But the fact that GRRM takes the time to show us his reaction, even if it's just a disapproving glance, speaks volumes. GRRM is a gardener, and in these chapter, he is clearly planting seeds of discord which will later bloom. As book readers, we have some insight into Barristan's thoughts. We know that he's not a turncloak in the literal sense of the word. He is trying his best to live up to his sense of honor and duty in a complex world, where personal choices are seldom black or white. But I wouldn't be surprised if other characters have a different perception of Barristan's choices. And I'm speaking specifically about Dany. She will not be forgiving if Barristan deserts her to support Aegon. It's too bad we will never find out what happens next in the story, considering it's been over a decade and there is no TWOW in sight.
@betterinsodapop
@betterinsodapop 11 ай бұрын
At first glance, I somehow misread this as "Is Varys mainsplaining to Ser Barristan."
@thing_under_the_stairs
@thing_under_the_stairs 10 ай бұрын
Considering who's got what junk, that might be difficult.
@unintelligentlifeform7180
@unintelligentlifeform7180 10 ай бұрын
It makes sense that Verys orchestrated Selmy's dismissal. Verys is betting on a different horse and wants Selmy to be on the "right" side for all the reasons you mentioned. He is a knight of honor and his name carries weight. So who he stands beside in battle means something to many people in Westeros. Plus....He is still a dangerous fighter...despite his years.
@ShadeoftheEvening
@ShadeoftheEvening 10 ай бұрын
I give a definite YES
@RW77777777
@RW77777777 11 ай бұрын
he's gonna die in the first chapter in the book that's never going to be written
@domhuckle
@domhuckle Ай бұрын
Is faegon already being played by Timothy Chalamet?
@eric2500
@eric2500 11 ай бұрын
When in doubt blame Bloodraven is north of the Neck...when in doubt in the South....😁!
@deecawford
@deecawford 11 ай бұрын
Good thoughts. I think he will stay with his honor which is the last person he pledged himself to Dany.
@YaraDara634
@YaraDara634 11 ай бұрын
How did that happen 🤔
@JenksAnro
@JenksAnro 11 ай бұрын
Thanks dad love ya.
@zachrobledo2252
@zachrobledo2252 5 ай бұрын
Could Varys be the “mummers dragon?” He is from a mummers groups and got cut most likely for his blood, so he could be a Targ of Blackfyre
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 11 ай бұрын
I D G !!!!!!!!!!!
@11bluekitkats
@11bluekitkats 11 ай бұрын
Not trying to be weird but I see your comments on so many KZbinrs I watch it’s astounding!
@jeffcordova9633
@jeffcordova9633 11 ай бұрын
Lord Robert the good people of KZbin and the lands thank you for your content . The realm owes you a debt that can never be paid.. I honestly would not be surprised if he was, The way his character got killed off was crappy but I heard that’s what the actor wanted cause he didn’t like the direction D&D were going . Book Selmy? Hmmm I wouldn’t be surprised if he was manipulating selmy from far
@PeculiarNotions
@PeculiarNotions 11 ай бұрын
Did you ever make the eight, Selmy?
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