LIVE! ANOTHER Juror Comes f=Forward For Karen Read - Why Now?

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Chapters:
00:00 Welcome
0:46 Intro
01:17 Supplemental Memorandum In Support Of Motion To Dismiss
04:30 Does Judge Need To Talk To Jury?
06:05 Jurors Watching Media Coverage?
06:29 Q&A
09:35 Alan Jackson Affidavit
10:43 Jackson Affidavit - What Juror Told Jackson
14:02 Jackson Affidavit - Confusion On Jury Instructions/Verdict Form
17:50 Q&A
23:03 Jackson Affidavit - What Juror Told Jackson Cont.
29:28 Q&A
36:23 Conclusion
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[@halfirish8056]

What a bloody mess. I blame Bev. She was in charge and it was her courtroom.

[@HalflingMarquee]

She is at least negligent. I don't know if she is actually corrupt but she was really gullible and just believed everything the Commonwealth and prosecution says. She hasn't held them to any standard.

[@eagrinstead1]

​​@@HalflingMarquee malpractice on the judges part

[@bethpatriots7290]

Ridiculous

[@stephendavis7812]

She was in charge. That's the bottom line. I don't think she is guilty of something nefarious, she just being her. She's smug. She probably lives in Newton MA or Cambridge MA, but they are a little more crazy-leftey then they are smug and thinking they are better than anyone, Seems like pure Newton to me. Sloppy work from someone who thinks they are so good they don't really need to pay attention to the details...those are for the little folk.

[@pattinailsit4535]

Has anyone done a background check on her and her cases? It would be very interesting 🤔

[@nursecollins77]

There seems to be a lack of interest in a search for the truth but rather convicting someone.....truth be damned

[@DMiller912]

I couldn't agree more.

[@The_10th_Man]

Par for the course really

[@TheMaleficent1]

She was not convicted so what is the problem? The court and prosecution just received this information...give them a chance to respond...geesh.

[@wavylos9029]

The judge told them during the tuey rule that she would be tried again by another jury not saying that they are smarter than the rest of you etc etc …. Sounds like you knew she would statement to me

[@LaLaLonna]

1000%

[@TararyzeMcg]

Bravo TO THIS BRAVE JUROR in the face of such obvious corruption!!

[@makeupqueen130]

Amen 🙏

[@missk9056]

Yes thank God for the justice system.that these Jurors were brave enough to step up .Shame the Judge didn't what a joke

[@debidriscoll8108]

To all 4 that came forward. They came to a verdict on 2 counts but had a confusion on 1. Their verdict on the 2 should legally hold.

[@freya6941]

I guess this is why we must have 12 people serve. Amongst the 12, it's highly likely that at least one will not be pushed by any person or by fear of reprisal.

[@khaleesireyna731]

​@@freya6941 ngl, I'm taking notes for how to be juror from this. Because it sounds like not only did Bev not want to do her job, but the cop families involved in this case may have been trying to intimidate the jury. I'm glad several of those jurors have given that entire stunt the finger.

[@physics4290]

Judge Beverly Cannone actually told the jury she was giving them verbal instructions AND written instructions, and that if there was a difference between the two, they were to follow her verbal instructions! That is crazy talk.

[@ceha9517]

That was crazy to me too. So you have the instructions written down but if she said something else you have to remember it? What is this?

[@saradf4890]

I didn't like that she didn't give the jury a copy of the written instructions at the time she read them. I'd prefer to have the instructions and make notes on them/underline important parts as she read through them.

[@evelynmahoney3569]

Verbal instructions referred to were likely made to the jurors in private, outside of the attorneys' presence. The way she said, when dismissing the jury, "I'll be in to meet with you privately in a moment." sure sounded like it wasn't the first time that she'd met with them privately. She can easily deny any verbal instructions if she needs to, or claim the jurors must have misunderstood. Not so with written instructions, which are also the ones the attorneys are privy to.

[@LoneStarRanchTours]

@@physics4290 😮

[@bmx_helisman8252]

This judge is incompetent at best and biased or corrupt at worse. She can be angry at the public outcry all she wants but this is the result of her own actions during this trial.

[@mousemx1534]

100% agree

[@paulad3261]

Came here to say the same!!! 1000% agree!!!!

[@bethpatriots7290]

Absurd

[@donnahall3902]

I feel like there should be consequences for Bev.

[@kimry7458]

Our Governor, Maura Healey, is the person to do that.

[@theworldisavampire3346]

The judge looks really, really bad. At this point, they need to drop the charges all together. It's so sad that Officer O'Keefe did not get the proper investigation that he deserved.

[@SDSueK]

Why drop all charges if 8 of 12 voted Guilty of manslaughter?

[@paigemprice]

​@SDSueK because the the investigation was a disaster

[@neacienation]

Do you think that they're ever going to get a jury to agree? With the police force and the lead detective under investigation? You can't even. Trust the evidence when you can't trust.The people who were supposed to collect it and process it correctly and they have been fired. I agree that they stole this mans families chance at justice. Disgusting 😢 ​@SDSueK

[@DrunkComments]

Or the state funeral and recognition! They tried to erase him!

[@Ktrussman]

I doubt she will do anything because JOs family thinks she is guilty.

[@carlaamanda86]

Y’all - thank God this trial was televised!! Imagine all that could be hid if it wasn’t!!

[@fionaryder632]

The one thing the judge actually got right, not like Delphi!!!

[@heatherkortenkaemper319]

The jury should have asked. The judge should have confirmed her understanding of the jury. The buck stops with the judge.

[@bobbyroberts8523]

I agree let's get the truth, as a American I am sick of the corruption in our justice system.

[@leslievasquez2645]

Amen

[@TheMaleficent1]

Because of one case? When she wasn't even convicted? Name one justice system in this world that is fairer than Americas. If you are going to throw out such ridiculous generalities back it up with something more than hyperbole.

[@peanutbutterpandapuffss]

@@TheMaleficent1 denmark, norway, sweden and germany are usually ranked highest for having the fairest justice systems. that aside, even if there weren’t a justice system fairer than the us, just because there isn’t something better doesn’t exist wouldn’t mean the us system is perfect and infallible

[@sinistercyn9849]

I agree with you that we have the best justice system in the world. However that doesn’t mean it is without its faults. I think allowing cameras in the courtroom is allowing ordinary citizens to see these flaws. I’m not sure what other trials the original poster had in mind, I think there are potential issues with the YSL trial.

[@chartmaster8729]

Damn right Bobby!

[@Chris-Alia]

I was on a jury where this happened. EVERYONE thought if we hung on a SINGLE count, it made ALL charges hung. I kept telling them NO (because I was the lone holdout) and they absolutely did not believe you could convict on ONE charge only. They were livid that I was causing them to hang on ALL charges, which I wasn’t. I did find guilty on ONE charge. The ON.Y thing that saved the day was one of them, in trying to prove me wrong,asked the jury liaison, who said “No, you can convict on one and not others.” If not for THAT, they would’ve never believed me. So, we convicted on some, hung on one. Believe me, if not for the liaison telling to them to their face, they would have continued to bully me to convict on the one charge. The judge DID tell us from the bench before deliberating, but no one paid attention. They acted like they didn’t hear him. Anyhow, I can totally see how this happened.

[@MEshaoWords]

I bet that was such a frustrating interaction trying to explain that lol. Sorry you got accosted by dummies

[@JamyDMusic]

Thank you for your integrity during your service

[@babs3652]

Why didn't they ask before they told the court they were deadlocked or say that they couldn't agree on all charges, just two? They were probably stressed out. Now 4 jurors are coming forward? Strange. This trial has been a circus from day 1.

[@butwhytho4858]

Oh so YOU were the hard headed one… There’s always one in the bunch my grandma would always say.. Also JUST KIDDING lol. I’m sure whatever the issue was, it was a good thing you stuck to your guns. We need ppl with integrity like that. What this DOES tell me is that we need to change the way we instruct jurors. I HATE all the wording and legal jargon. Lawyers and judges etc are educated on how and why those terms are important. Jurors are not. The wording and way it’s handled needs to be fixed to read in layman’s terms. To be clear, I’ve never served on a jury, but this sounds like it’s an issue that’s been swept under the rug for a long time. Sadly I blame it on ppl like this guys dad. He may be a good guy and he seems to have raised an amazing son, BUT he brushed off jury instructions and explained that it was nothing out of the ordinary… This is where the issue lies.

[@Aalisrocklist]

we believe you 100% thanks for sharing this!!!

[@Laura-thf]

Lets hope the FBI step in with more information on this shoddy investigation, embarrassing for all involved , RIP Officer O'Keefe ❤ freekarenReid ❤

[@therealz360z7]

It wouldn't be the FBI , appeals court .

[@khaleesireyna731]

​@@therealz360z7 no, the FBI is actually investigating the police in the CW.

[@Laura-thf]

@@therealz360z7 they have already started investigating this case , hence why we had federal experts say this was not a collision with a car.

[@user-my5xp2vi6g]

@@therealz360z7fbi is investigating proctor’s investigation. Those experts were used by the defense at trial. Appellate court can’t do anything about the investigation.

[@edwardscott3262]

The feds found a lot in this case. The defense found a lot in this case. The judge just didn't let them put on their 3rd party culprit defense. The prosecutor and judge know 2 people in the house have confessed. They know Higgins went around telling everyone who would listen he just held Chloe back while Colin and Brian Albert beat John. The judge and prosecutor know 2 Canton cops grew a conscience during this and were willing to testify to what they saw happen in the sally port. I'll give you a hint. They didn't accidentally frame Karen Read. They didn't jump the gun and blame her. They outright framed her. The judge and prosecutor know Higgins and Kevin Albert were in the sally port when Karen's tail light was smashed. Along with a whole lot of others. Yet knowing all this, they made what we saw at trial happen.

[@GigiWright]

Ive been a juror twice. The most tedious part is slowly and repetitively reading over the jury instructions and slip. I blame the judge!

[@misstuxbrandi]

Why does this feel so corrupt?

[@Ganymedia9]

Probably because it IS corrupt. This whole case is an embarrassment for our country.

[@crazydolphin33]

Because it's a bunch of killer cops trying to cover up a murder.

[@AR-dm7ud]

The whole situation is very corrupt! They need to Stop all the corruption in that town! “good old boys club” is very obvious‼️

[@citrusbloom7504]

Where there’s smoke there’s fire 🔥

[@missk9056]

@@misstuxbrandi cause it is

[@jaimec3159]

I still don’t understand how they thought a car hit Mr OKeefe!! Boggles my mind!!

[@jennyfox5949]

@jaimec3159 Same!!!!!! To me that was all that mattered.

[@RichardZabielski-ql9ss]

They don't. People just don't want to do the right thing bc they may have to deal with controversy and outcome. The few who voted not guilty are probably the few who EVENTUALLY did the right thing and stepped forward about it, instead hiding in the shadows silently like the others.

[@Babyd320]

@@jaimec3159 maybe because her tail light was in his clothes ? Maybe because her tail light was buried in the snow .. maybe because his dna was on the base head light of her car ? Maybe because is hair was found on her bumper .. maybe because Karen told everyone she hit including her family and attorney .. maybe because karen told everyone he was dead or hit by plow before they even found him ? Maybe because she deleted the ring video of her arriving back at John’s house that night as well as the video of Kerry Roberts observing the broken tail light .. maybe because she was the ONLY person fighting with John at 12.30 am .. there’s so much and too much to list

[@LovetheLed]

@@Babyd320every single thing that you just listed has been proven incorrect. You can’t argue with the science and you can’t argue with the physics. REGARDLESS of anything- JOK was not struck by the SUV, and the SUV did not strike a person 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@aldagalinato9587]

In video , no body was standing and hit by tail light of suv. Evidence were planted. Someone took it from suv, rubbed to the body of John and put it on the ground.

[@gorkushka]

Beverly Cannone needs to be Removed from the Bench.

[@khaleesireyna731]

Maybe it's time the governor of MA was pestered enough to be made aware of this judge. This judge and the prosecution are making the whole state look bad at this point.

[@JenniferMoleski]

Poor Karen and poor O'Keefe family. Incompetence from absolute start to finish.

[@toniserevino5969]

Poor Karen ??? Does anyone remember that her first hearing Yannetti stated in court it was a horrible accident . With no intent to kill ? In comes Jackson and 12 others are responsible …?? Where are those court files ?..

[@heatherhapgood6235]

FBI please investigate Bev..somehow

[@SharonJoy58]

She's on the Walshe case too..

[@ROBINstrawBERRYwine]

Yes I agree because I personally think that she did “EVERYTHING” on a fine line to find Karen guilty but also to make herself (Bev) not look like a biased judge!!!

[@cubicthe]

The state's annotation of Mass Crim Rule 27: "This rule also provides that the court may declare a mistrial in cases where the jury is unable to reach a verdict. However, it must first receive and record the verdicts which the jury can agree upon."

[@culater3510]

You're hired!

[@neacienation]

😮

[@ImmediateAffiliate-jf4ds]

OMG!

[@sueallen8188]

Thank you!!!

[@margy1884]

Mass rules of criminal procedure!!!

[@kimaskew4874]

YES, I KNEW IT!!! My gut feeling when the judge didn’t ask “did you reach a verdict on ANY of the charges?”

[@dazzlingextremes389]

This seems UNHEARD of??? I AM SO PROUD OF THESE JURORS!!! FOR COMING FWD!!!! GOOD HUMANS!!!!!

[@ilovegodzilla]

Very negligent of the judge to not have the jury submit decisions (or lack thereof) for a trial. You always want the record protected.

[@modeangelis7913]

Did they not fill out verdict forms as they deliberated? Is that formans fault?

[@hotmoon2959]

Can anyone imagine the record was not protected in such a high profile case⁉️ Highly unusual 😮

[@user-fq8wt7be6b]

My thoughts exactly. How on earth does she not protect the record. Each and everything in a case needs to be on the record, and the juries decisions should have been. Even if the were hung on everything or part of it. When she dismissed them, my first thought was what just happened.

[@williamp6800]

That’s the last thing Auntie Bev wanted. If she wanted the record protected, she would have let what objections were be stated during testimony.

[@maxbang1813]

​@@modeangelis7913 NO, the foreman is communicating for the entire jury.

[@kdash7]

I’m sure the judge will find a way to blame the defense.

[@leslievasquez2645]

She’ll just blame Karen!

[@barelylegalbriefs]

It was the laughing!

[@bzleo2003]

So ready for a Netflix documentary on this, lol. I don't think some of these people realize how bad they look.

[@suemitricka9031]

And! I don't think they are ever going to see themselves the way the rest of the world sees them they will say Netflix portrayed them wrongly

[@mothersgauri4137]

May God bless those honest jurors, and those who have been honestly covering this case. This is going down in history for sure.

[@lindawade4ok639]

The judge and the prosecutor had an agenda to find the woman guilty no matter what and her failure to quiz them on exactly what charges they were hung on is beyond malfeasance it is judicial misconduct when she declared a mistrial on all of them

[@paigemprice]

I'm not a lawyer but I feel the same

[@didierbaudewyns7868]

if it's not a plot, it looks very much like one. Moreover, there is no evidence, all the witnesses were drunk and the lead pseudo-investigator either lies or repeat "I do not recall" when the truth does not fit his absurd narrative.

[@AnneStewart-oe7rj]

It went way past the judge & the prosecutor. The cops were in collusion with the real killers, the vilely corrupt McCabes, Alberts, etc.

[@joyceperciballi295]

They need to dismiss charges against her

[@lindawade4ok639]

And yes I'm hearing today and I do sort of recall Auntie Bev said don't fill out the verdict form until you come to a verdict on each one of them

[@TeacupChihuahuas]

Shocking how she didn’t ask what counts they were deadlocked on! Bev is at fault 100%

[@jenw7344]

She wanted to go rest

[@maud9460]

@@jenw7344 ofc she was tired again

[@KathleenHelms-nq1vk]

I agree.

[@catelewis7223]

Judge Bev … shame on you

[@tammylynnarts2018]

When the defense did bring up a problem with the jury "slips", they had no chance to say anything further because judge said, "is something funny Miss Read? Ok, we're done here." Thats in the record.

[@jamkoti3088]

I thought the judge could have caused all this, because Karen laughed. That judge is sketchy anyways.

[@JeanBunny-qc2lh]

The judge couldn’t get the jury out of the building fast enough.

[@lkb8602]

And the defense couldn’t wait to get out of their with mistrial

[@JeanBunny-qc2lh]

@@lkb8602 yup. Walking out the front door was the lesser goal but a goal non the less.

[@chantallennox1201]

8 weeks of trial with long, drawn out boring detail about the band at the bar, and yet they rush through the end and fumble the ball at the finish line. Madness

[@sutarikun]

​@@lkb8602To be fair, even if they wanted to get in a word edgewise they couldn't have.

[@BruceBradley-rl1rt]

If you go back and listen to the end of the jury instructions, the very last one was Bev saying the foreperson should not fill out the verdict slips until they had unanimous votes on all counts. So the slips were blank cuz they were hung on count 2. Then Bev declared a mistrial and they were rushed out of the room without polling of the jury, count by count. Bev messed that up.

[@Ablank2011]

Thank God for cameras in the courtroom Bev’s incompetence is all on the record

[@PhillyBirdGang1]

And we have all been calling this out throughout the entire case! She’s Bev McLallybert

[@Grammichal]

@@PhillyBirdGang1 Good one!

[@Grammichal]

Is this a CYA for Judge Auntie Bev? SHE KNOWS the jury found CR not guilty on counts, 1 and 3 even though she did not divulge this at the end of trial. Based on the fact that count 2/manslaughter is the only unanswered charge, this case might “go away” in a sense. Then Bev McLallybert is not responsible if CW decides not to retry CR only on charge 2.

[@carlaamanda86]

Yesssss. That’s what I said!! So true!!!

[@reginacorrigan5324]

Unless you saw this all play out as we have, youd say it was too far fetched

[@makeupqueen130]

I think the jurors know something isn't right. Bless them for coming forward 🙏 Karen is innocent, and John deserves justice. I blame this mess on Bev for what's happening now.

[@kaylabryson1932]

Incompetent judge. Should be disbarred

[@freya6941]

Judge Bev has a hide the thickness of a pride of elephants. She is above the law, or so she thinks.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I'm willing to say not incompetent, she's corrupt.

[@evelynmahoney3569]

Not incompetent; INTENTIONAL.

[@dudemorris7769]

Seen a live on Melanie Little on the 4th juror coming forward. Bottom line, Aunt Bev, didn’t want it to be known & why it wasn’t a hung jury.

[@eday1984]

Lets not do that....dont state things as fact! Melanie may have said her thoughts on it. She didnt however say that was a fact!

[@wellthissucks112]

Was Bederow on the live?

[@leslievasquez2645]

I believe he is expressing his opinion which is what all of us are doing.

[@bethpatriots7290]

False. ZERO jurors have submitted affidavits

[@debshane4509]

It's an account by the 4th juror who came forward but used an intermediary instead of Jackson.

[@heymsvicki983]

It takes courage to come forward especially in this day and age.

[@toniserevino5969]

Maybe they should have come forward before a decision ???? What courage ??? Where was it before they made more of a circus out of this And why not go to court with their afterthoughts so it’s all legit ??? Not the defense atty ????????

[@suzannemiller-1954]

And live in that town. Scary what can happen to them and their families.

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

I know lawyers don’t like to address Judicial misconduct-but we all saw the bias and I’m not afraid to give my opinion-I think there’s corruption everywhere in this case! She knows the Alberts. She should have recused herself from the beginning. The phrase “we cannot allow this injustice to continue” absolutely makes me proud and gives goosebumps! To the first juror that came forward, massive respect and props to you! That took guts and courage! I’m proud of this jury! Let’s let the truth come out! It’s time! Everyone should want the truth to come out!

[@gregorywilson9322]

Jackson certainly did object...Bev said "this is the way we do it here"

[@roseyb]

She sure did agree 🇬🇧

[@jennifershuman4914]

I do not think she should be tried again

[@PhillyBirdGang1]

It’s in their best interest to just let it go! Especially with the Sandra Birchmore wave in the background getting ready to crash.

[@debijo5288]

I heard there not suppose to. It's over, it's such a big mess from the beginning. Officer's lieing and calling bad names to Karen. That's horrible I hope he lost his job.

[@maycronin1188]

​@@debijo5288Proctor has been suspended during a review of his actions. The Mass State Police Union is still supporting his behavior

[@debijo5288]

​@PhillyBirdGang1 it's just going to be a repeat of the last trial. I keep hearing that They Can't Retry her. What's up with this Judge she should of went and talked to them before they came back out the second time.

[@nigelbrayshaw2709]

She knows she hit him, she (and her lawyers) tried to cover it up by going down the TikChat/SnapTok conspiracy route and simpletons jumped on the bandwagon and believed it. She should simply admit she hit him accidentally. She was drunk, she loved him, it was an accident, it is manslaughter.

[@lhr8833]

The one thing they objected about the verdict, the judge took it with their client and humiliated her in camera. Then came back and still didn’t do the change, but agreed they were correct, without apologizing to Miss Read. Bev better don’t come back saying the lawyers didn’t objected enough, because her favorite response is “is my right to do it like this”. She is terrible at her job and needs to go.

[@paigemprice]

Defense filed an emergency motion with court above her, she got a phone call, that's why she changed the form the little bit she did

[@lhr8833]

@@paigemprice wow, even worst, more evidence she didn’t wanted to listen.

[@casey5683]

@@paigempriceshe didn’t even change the form she just gave more directions for “clarification” which clearly didn’t help much.

[@carlaamanda86]

She couldn’t have been more obviously bias if she tried. Can’t stand her.

[@Crunt2167]

Smells like Bias to me. 😎👍

[@margaritac3416]

Please jurors come forward for justice

[@H_holly_bsjn]

16:59 Bev would have disagreed with the defense. She was very clear that she was sick and tired of karen and her attorneys. Worst judge ever

[@julietteboser1202]

What I find incredulous is that the judge's wording allowed the jurors to find Karen guilty on manslaughter charges because she dropped him off at the house. Karen can be found guilty because her adult boyfriend insisted on going to that house. What kind of justice is that? She cannot be found guilty on manslaughter either, period.

[@kenn1936]

CRAZY!!! Was she trying to imply that KR KNEW what would happen to her boyfriend if he went into the house??? If that is the case - the Alberts, Higgins and McCabe's should be arrested for murder. Karen drove him there - someone else killed him!! you cannot charge her for driving him there and ignore the fact that he was murdered there!!!!!

[@francesdryden7547]

This is what I was wondering. Is that really what it means because it sounds like madness to me. American justice system never fails to surprise me!

[@athenarocks7657]

@@francesdryden7547more like injustice system if this case is anything to go by.

[@shweefranglais7900]

Wow, I didn't realise this ! So the judge is saying because she dropped him off whatever happened afterwards to cause his death is irrelevant? That's crazy. The way that cop tried to imply she had drunk 9 drinks was crazy as well. The video did not actually show what he claimed it did and bar receipts show she had far less , 3 at max.

[@kenn1936]

@@shweefranglais7900 that is what I thought - she is crazy!! That is NOT murder!!! or even accomplice to murder!!! She didn't want him to go. She refused to go herself, but John wanted to go and she could not stop him.

[@jonic28]

“That’s the way it’s always been done in Massachusetts Mr. Jackson”

[@PhillyBirdGang1]

😂 Right! She is horrible

[@MEshaoWords]

More like Dumbassachusetts

[@justkim9827]

​@MEshaoWords or just plain Assachusetts. I live here and that's what I call it 🤷‍♀️

[@williamp6800]

And then David Yanetti, himself a local lawyer, said it absolutely not how it’s done in MA.

[@ABab-jf2jb]

Auntie Beth is so arrogant.

[@julie5845]

I love the fact that you’re going to do jury instructions different because of us!

[@margaretleavitt6992]

How courageous they are! They have more decency than the corrupt judge and DA

[@darlenecuster3723]

Judge knows what the jury said, she omitted it.

[@TheMaleficent1]

The attorneys view the questions jurors submit to the court during deliberations so that did not happen. The jury mistakenly omitted in their note that they were only hung one count and did not mention they had reached verdicts on the other two. I find it CRAZY that none of them mentioned it to the court, court staff or a bailiff. Mindboggling.

[@sophocles1198]

@@TheMaleficent1 This is plane's crash.

[@skipperng5657]

Wouldn't have been the forepersons duty to provide the complex issues to the court so they could get clarification on unanimous and totality??

[@joshm60]

@@TheMaleficent1 I think @darlenecuster3723 is referring to Bev's discussion with the jurors after the mistrial was declared. Section 6 of the affidavit says that the jurors told the judge in that discussion that they acquitted on charges 1 and 3: "Juror D said that the jury discussed telling the judge that they had agreed unanimously on NOT GUILTY verdicts for Counts 1 and 3, but they were not sure if they were allowed to say so."

[@shafarnullifidian8127]

@@skipperng5657 Who selected the foreperson??? Oh, never mind.

[@donnamason354]

As an American, I am ashamed of what our country has become regarding our legal/justice system. Stop for a moment and think about how our nation must appear to the rest of the world 🌎. We appear utterly incompetent. 😢

[@MichelleWhite-rb9hn]

I'm from Canada, and there has in the past been problems with our police and covering things up apparently so no Americans are not incompetent it happens everywhere sadly

[@jitkavesela3792]

Every country has issues. You are not alone...

[@cindz4618]

This happens the world over to a greater or lesser extent. The difference is that you have actually found out about it here ( in some places you dont). Solving it is another thing but knowing about it is a start.

[@Lorgy2]

I mean it's bad but there are other countries that have issues you get bad apples everywhere. I think the fact that US trials are televised opens it up to more scrutiny and criticism whether that is justified or not. We don't televise trial in the UK you only get to hear about the evidence /issues after a verdict.

[@ceha9517]

It is just you realizing that your country is not superior how we were told 70 years. And you believed it. It is good to open the eyes.

[@Notpublished]

The car didn’t hit him. Manslaughter isn’t ok!

[@suzannemiller-1954]

I agree.

[@generousbitcoinbillionaire]

Beverliar should be fired without pay. This is absolutely disgusting. And she should give KR a public apology for the disrespect she showed her throughout the trial esp asking her not to laugh. No she didn't think it was funny she thought it was corrupt and what can you do but laugh at the gaslighting

[@rkc8588]

Bev is gaslighter terrible works

[@Bhubnipz]

Bro…asking her not to laugh is basic court procedure. Stop treating this woman like a martyr

[@generousbitcoinbillionaire]

@@Bhubnipz court procedure is for the judge to be unbiased. Game on BRO

[@Bhubnipz]

@@generousbitcoinbillionaire Did the judge let anyone else laugh when someone wasn’t making a joke?

[@Shashie24]

DAVID SWIFT case out of TN recently hung jury, Judge asked them what they were caught up on, they said not guilty on counts one and two, couldn't decide on count three. Bev should have asked this.

[@ninastanek3388]

Right and the Judge acquitted him from 1st degree murder based on the unanimous Jury decision

[@casey5683]

I really think she didn’t want to so they could try Karen again on all of the charges.

[@Shashie24]

@@casey5683 Yes, she's so corrupt!

[@BethLove333]

Omg my face every day with this case 😮😮😮

[@leslievasquez2645]

It’s the gift that keeps on giving

[@HosLongToAmendVerdictForm]

My face, every time more news breaks, is not a surprised face. I’ve followed this case closely and long enough to expect more news.

[@GigglesGaloree2]

The jury instructions were not provided to the counsel before they were read out loud. The judge said that she would be working on them that night and wouldn’t have a chance to send them to counsel. I saw her say that in the charge conference so I don’t think they had a chance to object to the instructions.

[@kathyalmeida3400]

Bev is the reason why all this is a mess. Bev did a lot of mis justice to this trial, she was so obvious to not liking the defendant and her lawyers period nobody will convince me otherwise

[@davewade30]

I just don't see how anyone could be beyond a reasonable doubt even on manslaughter. They never proved he was hit by a car. Much less her car. How they hung is beyond me. This case has more reasonable doubt than any I've ever seen. It has shaken my faith in juries.

[@Babyd320]

Oh ok so tail light from her car buried under 2 feet of snow ? His hair and dna on her bumper.. that’s about as forensic as it gets .. let’s not forget she told everyone including her attorney that she hit him .

[@davewade30]

@@Babyd320 And yet the independent, FBI experts say his injuries are inconsistent with being hit by a car. Reasonable doubt.

[@Babyd320]

@@davewade30 yea fbi hired by us attorney doing a favor for Karen’s dad . They found nothing to connect anyone to John’s death and no dog dna . Put the pieces together .. no one puts a person they just beat up half alive with their phone on their front lawn while their son is having a party with friends .. very sad how many people have been duped in this fiasco!

[@laughingcoyote111]

​@@Babyd320If someone confesses up, down, and backwards to shooting someone, but the body has no gunshot wounds, they didn't shoot that person. He did not have injuries consistent with being hit by a car. So even if she thought she hit him, she didn't.

[@zirconiumdiamond1416]

​@@Babyd320 all that DNA and hair on the bumper means is that he had been at the back of her car before. This doesn't really seem that interesting given that that O'Keefe was Read's boyfriend. One would expect his DNA to be all over her car. Notably: no DNA was found inside the broken housing, and none of that DNA was identified to be from flesh or blood.

[@heatherhapgood6235]

Bev is guzzling solo cups drinks as we speak lol

[@BethLove333]

😂😂😂

[@gerry7590]

😂.😅😅😂

[@timroberts6695]

Probably at a high table

[@suemitricka9031]

At a high table in the snow

[@FootballMom7965]

😂

[@markblain8438]

Nothing less than criminal conduct by the court Expected.

[@MamaBear0417]

I love that you are taking the feedback regarding jury instructions from your viewers to make it simpler for juries going forward. It’s an important job and jurors don’t want to get it wrong.

[@videos-li5ys]

Can Canone be sued re civil rights violation? She was warned that instructions to jury were confusing. It was her job to be clear

[@TheMaleficent1]

No.

[@josephtitus5459]

At this point a dismissal of the two charges are appropriate. Assuming if the rest of the jury confirms that they voted not guilty for charge 1 and 3.

[@athenarocks7657]

At this point, dismissal of the whole trial is appropriate. They can come back when they have evidence that wasn’t collected in solo cups.

[@chantallennox1201]

Absolutely. Double jeopardy on Counts 1 and 3. And if the CW insists on retrial for count 2, move it to different location and bench trial because a judge won’t be uncomfortable having the McAlberts staring at them during closing arguments

[@carlaamanda86]

@@chantallennox1201ehhh idk about that. Cuz you only have to convince ONEEEE judge to be corrupt. You’d have to convince 12 whole DIFFERENT jurors to be corrupt. It’s safer with a jury.

[@carlaamanda86]

But def at a diff location with a different judge!!

[@bethbounds2873]

I think the jury needs to be brought in and poled!

[@fionaryder632]

But not alone with Bev😂

[@kazapthegreat5306]

This has to be connected to her sealing the juror names for 10 days. More will probably come forward as they have some protection 🤞🏻

[@UrsulaPowers]

OMG, good point!

[@bmx_helisman8252]

I glad you're saying you will speak out if the court dismisses this outright. This whole trial has been gross.

[@cynthiamartin2197]

This is frightening that jury members must bring this to the court's attention. In my opinion, she was tried and charges 1 and 3 were acquittals, period. Therefore, only charge 2 should be charged if the DA’s intends on filing again.

[@TheMaleficent1]

How else would the court know without the jury mentioning they were only hung on ONE count?!

[@leslievasquez2645]

@@TheMaleficent1you’re a real ray of sunshine

[@Quiteinfamous]

@@TheMaleficent1because it’s the courts job to ask 💩

[@carlaamanda86]

@@TheMaleficent1because Bias Bev is supposed to ASK!!!

[@vickicali]

Look at how some prosecutors fight DNA testing of an inmate who was convicted before DNA testing. Why wouldn't you want to make sure an innocent person doesn't stay in prison??? They are not always interested in truth and justice!

[@Danielle33384]

Exactly right! There’s way too many innocent people in prison. Prosecutors are only interested in getting a win, they don’t care about truth.

[@melissaowens6031]

Indeed

[@julieo4580]

How are people so confused by this situation? It's a constitutional issue, people!! We already had our First Amendment stomped on during the pandemic. Hate or love Karen Read...she deserves justice based on our Constitutional rights.

[@meganthemom]

THIS

[@tibb814]

What govt action limited your 1st ammendment rights?

[@jcs137]

Covid mandates made by the government interfered with First Amendment rights to freely exercise religion or peaceably assemble. This went to court in many places…one example

[@jcs137]

@@tibb814the right to freely worship under the first amendment . It was challenged during the pandemic when governments restricted religious worships. Some governments even restricted places of worships more than restaurants etc. it’s protected. Pandemic or not.

[@MsAmyjoy7802]

I just binged 'Trial 4' on Netflix, Boston has a history of corruption, so dirty

[@MEshaoWords]

Ooo just watched the trailer, looks good! 📺🏃🏻‍♂️

[@MsAmyjoy7802]

@@MEshaoWords love the emojis of running towards the TV 🤣🤣🤣 . It's crazy though, shows how they can really frame ppl smh

[@dennisdonoghue9202]

Like most cities across the US. BTW, Canton is not Boston. So let's be fair.

[@hkr667]

@@dennisdonoghue9202 It pretty much is though.

[@MsAmyjoy7802]

@@dennisdonoghue9202 most cities don't frame their citizens for murder... well, maybe in TX

[@MotherPugger1]

I really appreciate how you just get to the point of all the videos and don’t chit chat forever

[@Michelina22]

I agree, it’s refreshing 😊

[@emorykat]

I am probably just in a bad mood today but felt the opposite about this one. I just wanted him to read the affidavit. Could have been 20 minute video. 🤷🏼‍♀️ SO. MANY. WORDS today. Lol.

[@kristinebrown414]

​@@emorykatGotta wait for his simps to come in and give those SuperChats to a literal millionaire lawyer...just saying

[@tierneylogan5943]

@@kristinebrown414right… who does that lol

[@emorykat]

​@@kristinebrown414 is he really a millionaire already? If so, he should do this for a charity and be transparent about it.

[@Sakyagirl]

Listen to the judges verbal instructions. The judge stated once the jury reaches a unanimous verdict to fill out the form.

[@MsLeezza]

I hope more continue to come forward - The TRUTH needs to come out!

[@kimchpm]

Bev said don't go by what is on the forms, do as I say. If there is confusion, do as I instructed.

[@bbjonas4233]

If anything good comes out of this trial, it would be an overhaul of the jury instructions and forms in all cases.

[@h3idimari3]

It shows how corrupt the system is

[@calmdowngurl]

Agreed, it should be dismissed. Only 1 charge and they did not prove that charge either beyond reasonable doubt

[@oxigen85]

I just want to know what Paul OK thinks about the jury finding her not guilty on these counts. Considering he's so sure about her being guilty.

[@lilgnomey]

He’s probably convinced that everyone’s in a conspiracy to find her not guilty. He’s that blind with hatred. I honestly don’t know how he was allowed to threaten her, in full view of the camera, and isn’t up on charges.

[@hkr667]

Paul could see a video of the murder committed by someone else and he'd still go after Karen. Paul doesn't want justice for John, Paul just wants Karen locked up. This is personal for him. All his so-called certainty of Karen being guilty comes from "I had a feeling, just trust me bro".

[@123Flowers13]

I was thinking 🤔 the same thing 😅

[@khaleesireyna731]

​@@hkr667Ngl, I'm now imagining a video of exactly how John was killed being shown to him (and it doesn't involve Karen or her car) and at the end he just turns around and says "How could you make me look stupid like this, Karen???"

[@Barb1944]

Watching recent trials I have decided that so much depends on the judge. I was on the jury of a murder trial many years ago. It was a capital punishment trial. The judge treated us very well and made it plain that we could ask any questions we needed to ask. After reading the instructions and we went to the jury room, he came in and asked if we understood everything. He explained the evidence that we had in the jury room and told us to do our best. We asked several questions during deliberations and all were answered relatively quickly, since he had to confer with attorneys for both sides. Deciding guilt or innocence in any trial is stressful, but a judge can make it much easier. Sounds like judges these days need special training in dealing with juries.

[@cathyweisner2683]

Judge Boyce in Vallow/Daybell was stellar! That is how every judge should be.

[@lilgnomey]

I think this judge had an opinion on the result she wanted, and she didn’t go out of her way to make sure she gave the jury all the support and options. She seemed to treat the whole thing with a lot of apathy.

[@TRUECRIMESPTV]

If you listen to the instructions, it sounds like she was saying they had to be unanimous on all counts.

[@underyourscars7181]

Judge sweating I hope!

[@suzannedavis3027]

It will be very unjust if they don't dismiss this case.

[@andyschool]

Remember Bev distinctly saying “We’ll they’ll figure it out.” (Jurors when AJ wanted clarification on G/NG check boxes. “That’s how we do it in Massachusetts,” before lashing out on KR’s snickering w family, shaking heads smile. Bev has an ego she allowed to impair fair & impartial end to this trial. Bev was dismissive to defense. Watching back, it’s unreal all the times she rushes AJ along for asked/answered type questions or she, herself, finishing question w tone that almost implied answer she wanted to hear rather than true response! She did this more w defense. Lally wasted all of our time… what a disgrace. Love Mass but would never ever live there! Ever.

[@jackiecorbett8476]

Well done jurors …. stand up for what you believed

[@josephdemartino6053]

Canton, MA contues to find new and exciting ways to be corrupt.

[@riazwiep6844]

And that’s why the defence put in a motion to have the verdict forms more clear.

[@user-jx1gq1ic7b]

The person .who killed John O'Keefe .this is what really be focused on. ..the one man ..fbi agent. .quote un quote I threw my phone away ..b cause it broke ..even though the police ..said to hand it in. Then going on the computer..how long does it take for a body to die . From hypothermia..that was really crazy. There has to someone ..in that house. That saw them drag John .outside .to the cold and snow .get with the program. This court is a joke ..not fair for this family and John. .to suffer .not learning the truth.

[@paigemprice]

They filed an emergency motion in the court above her, that's the only reason she changed the form the little bit she did. She got a phone call

[@Magnolia_Gypsy]

@@paigempriceand then she proceeded to tell the jurors what she says to them verbally counts over what the instructions say, but they couldn’t take any notes while she was giving those verbal instructions. And she tells them they can ask her questions about the law. That’s it. And then when they did ask for the sert report and they don’t get it.

[@williamp6800]

@@Magnolia_Gypsythey didn’t get the SERT report because there isn’t one. Just one of many screwups.

[@Magnolia_Gypsy]

@@williamp6800 correct.

[@TSUNAMI-MAMI]

How the hell did this happen??? Scary how corrupt this whole case is

[@freescholar_familytree]

YES, people on the jury are in danger as they are handled by the Troopers. Aunty Bev gets a ride to court with the Troopers. This is a mess and people need to be careful. The jurors that are speaking up are brave. There is strength in numbers. The more people are familiar with the State players - the cast of rotten apples, they will be less likely to cause harm. It looks like it may get worse if another trial happens. I trust the community to come together and respect and protect the citizens willing to reveal corrupt cops.

[@underyourscars7181]

Peter I disagree with you at times but when you say over a number of times it's "truth and justice" is what counts I adore you for that! Thank you and so right!

[@ceha9517]

Ja. Adorable. But not the reality.

[@arbitrage2141]

​@@ceha9517it is so sad.. too many prosecutors would rather preserve personal reputation over finding the truth in the matter. If they can convict at any cost they will, to make it look good for them.

[@debshane4509]

Hope you saw the Canton town hall meeting this morning. It's an eye opener and the taxpayers are fed up. It gets crazy

[@lilgnomey]

Is it on KZbin?

[@hollyhargis2472]

@@lilgnomeyyes

[@lilgnomey]

@@hollyhargis2472 I just saw the LYK recap. Wow.

[@debidriscoll8108]

Would like to see all jurors come forward telling the attorneys they came to a decision on the 2 charges.

[@persia888]

It’s insane the massive debacle at every single step of this trial, even when it’s over. What the heck???

[@yogabee2222]

Why on Earth but the jury think they had to find her guilty on all three counts rather than individually. They knew they had found her not guilty on two of the three. Why was that not represented instead of the whole thing being hung? It makes no sense

[@aprilb1233]

Makes you wonder about that Bev picked foreperson who speaks for the whole jury. Hmmmm

[@danielpmhart]

Wasn't this the Defenses whole issue with the verdict form only having one checkbox for Not Guilty? Or did I misunderstand that...

[@TheMaleficent1]

It is very, very odd that at no point did the jury, or even one juror, mention they voted not guilty on two counts. When they sent the note out stating they were hung, it defies logic that they did not mention they reached verdicts on two of three counts. So bizarre...

[@christinao522]

@@danielpmhart agree- that form was whack and predictably caused this predicament

[@-th9ms]

Because if you go back and listen to Aunt Bevs instructions she told them they had to complete the form

[@chuckwagon7354]

I said it at the time that Auntie Bev's Jury instructions were overly complicated and the Verdict Slip was illogical. When Atty Jackson forced her to change it, she repeated the same Jury instructions so they were probably no better off. All she had to do was tell them that if they found KR not guilty on any charge then tick that box. And the Tuey/Rodriguez instruction was pointless considering what were the Jurors instructed to do other than what they were already instructed to do, AND, the verdict still had to be unanimous. Auntie Bev knew what she was doing here - skirting the line between duplicity and outright fraud.

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

Peter, thank you! Thank you for saying if they agreed on the two charges they should be dropped. Of course we have never seen anything like this-I’ve never seen a lead detective that is friends with two families and text horrific things about the defendant, having missing footage from the sally port, evidence in solo cups, etc! The world is now watching the judge, including the Feds, so she has to address this! She didn’t give anyone a chance to do anything when she declared the mistrial.

[@bobbiedeleon4845]

I think you give Sneaky Bev to much credit, I understand, but I wholeheartedly believe Sneaky Bev is a problem judge!

[@RainyDaze-ig5ef]

You stated that if the defense attorneys didn’t argue their objection about the jury verdict forms to the judge then oh well or whatever, etc… but here’s the problem: Jackson did argue pretty hard with Bev about the confusion for the jury & stated there needs to be not guilty boxes all the way down, but Bec wasn’t going to hear it and was like, No this is how I’m leaving it. It’s how we always do it in Massachusetts. Then sometime later Bev comes back out and said ok…here’s what I’m going to do blah blah blah and she added an extra instruction. So it could be that maybe Jackson wasn’t going to push or argue anymore about what Bev finally decided to do because he was glad at least she added the instruction and he didn’t want to risk Bev changing her mind & not add the instruction and so Jackson left it alone at that. My point is that Jackson did argue. It got heated between Jackson and Bev. So we can’t say he didn’t argue.

[@justkim9827]

If I recall correctly, when Bev came back with the modified verdict sheet, she stated she added the NG choice, but I don't recall her showing the parties the form to verify. Same with their little bingo thing to choose alternates. I'm pretty sure the defense asked to confirm the numbers inside and Bev denied their request. Also, she chose the Foreman first which was really strange. Choosing the Foreman before the alternates guarantees that juror would be on the jury.

[@katrinabentley9035]

Yes I agree & that's what happened. Also, at the end judge stated Hung jury & down went the gavel.

[@leslievasquez2645]

I appreciate you saying that you would have less grace if they do a retrial with the same charges. You’re always so diplomatic but it’s good to see that you believe what we’ve believed during this trial! It’s a disgrace.

[@purpledragonfly313]

In general: If you misunderstand something, that doesn’t mean you KNOW you misunderstood until later. If you don’t know that you misunderstood, you may not even think to ask.

[@ReyDayami]

Excellent! Thank you! Karen Read is an innocent woman. Justice and righteousness shall prevail! In Jesus Name. Amen.

[@toniserevino5969]

Then why at her first hearing did Yannetti in court say it was a horrible accident and she had no intent to harm ???? Enter Jackson and she’s innocent ?? No one remembers this ??????

[@kathleenrobinson1847]

Doesn't Judge Bev have to answer to someone? Her superiors should be up in this business by now.

[@georgefromdownthehall3334]

Unfortunately no

[@margy1884]

I think she is the superior in Norfolk.

[@lynneserman6054]

The judicial committee should

[@sharonlewis6258]

I never liked this judge. She was so unfair and biased.

[@elizabethbrown3447]

She should never work ,as a judge ever Again

[@TheZippy72]

Huffing and puffing whenever defence put forward an ‘uncomfortable’ argument. Really unprofessional I thought

[@carlaamanda86]

💯💯💯💯

[@carlaamanda86]

@@TheZippy72absolutely

[@carlaamanda86]

She was so clearly biased. It showed through her actions. She’s horrid. She needs to be debenched!!!!

[@TheKikiGirl]

Just because is not confusing to a lawyer, does not mean it is not confusing for a juror.

[@KitKatSukiKat]

I think the jury felt intimated by auntie Bev when she said they have everything they need! 😡

[@DivinityC]

In disappointed they didn't all come up with not guilty but glad they are coming forward about what they did agree on. Karen deserves a fair trial. This whole legal matter has been terrible.

[@hkr667]

True but I bet it's only the 'not guilty' voters that are coming forward now. I hope they are all called and asked about charges 1 and 3, but I am not 100% convinced they will all be truthful.