LIVE: MA v. Karen Read Murder Retrial - Dog Bite Expert Daubert Hearing

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00:00:00 Karen Read Murder Retrial: Daubert Hearing 00:10:19 Karen Read Enters Courtroom 00:18:13 Cross: Dr. Marie Russell, Expert Testimony - Dog Bite 02:38:41 Back in Court 05:12:01 ReDirect: Dr. Marie Russell, Expert Testimony - Dog Bite 06:00:43 ReCross: Dr. Marie Russell, Expert Testimony - Dog Bite 06:22:16 Closing Arguments 06:22:35 Commonwealth Closing Argument by Special Prosecutor Hank Brennan 06:43:06 Defense Closing Argument by Robert Alessi #CourtTV - What do YOU think? Catch up on MA v. #KarenRead HERE: www.courttv.com/tag/karen-read/?

[@msgwen7264]

@@CourtTV good evening

[@MarkRick-o4b]

Judge Bias should be removed from the case! It’s very obvious she is one sided and not fair!

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Exactly, badgering a professional on the stand with no real base

[@terrybunsey8015]

Because it’s not going your way 🙄

[@beverleykeller5950]

Should of been a NEW Judge for this second one!!

[@animallovefest143]

I agree! I was surprised when she walked in... crazy after how the first trial went.

[@terrybunsey8015]

It’s not about the Judge (Karen Read Fans) it’s about John’s death and those are NOT DOG BITES, it’s called reaching when you can’t even remember what happened to your fiancée

[@guesswho5239]

@@terrybunsey8015 Its about the two independent engineers that found it impossible for John to have been hit by a car. Dog bites are still on the menu. The dog bit so many people they had to either put it down or rehome it to the grave yard. Why did they try to hide that fact? Gee I wonder.

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

@@guesswho5239did you didnt hear that a mold was taken of Chloe’s teeth? There is one and she is alive. Poor Chloe taking the blame for this cold spoiled, entitled brat.

[@guesswho5239]

@@HopeDavis-gw6ul Why would they take a mold of dog that no longer exists? News to be but ive not payed attention to this since first trial. The dog did bite people they tried to cover that up, they had a hard time getting the proof. Put people in the hospital not just a nibble.

[@mycat1064]

The tail light was not shattered at 34 Fairview the night John was murdered in that house. The tail light was shattered in the Sallyport.

[@terrybunsey8015]

Because you were there, omg

[@lorettakandrot4180]

1000th %

[@11B3P]

It’s too bad the policeman were allowed to get rid of their phones because gosh it sure would’ve been nice to see what they had been chatting about. ATF I thought they were some of the top notch investigators?

[@tracyday2871]

@@11B3P all of the investigators on this case were a joke. Total embarrassment for Norfolk county.

[@wildcatbaits]

Would have been great to see KRs phone also … the 1 that disappeared to Fl when a warrant was issued for it !! It works both ways … would have been great to see dad & moms phone ( but no ) AJ would have got them if tables were turned … KR is going down this time & they know it for killing John ! Thank God !

[@marycasey9198]

putting evidence in solo cups and dirty grocery bags lol

[@Katsutube12]

She can't see Chloe bc she was put down to destroy evidence, so sad :(

[@terrybunsey8015]

Ghee how convenient for the defense and their BS

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@Katsutube12 if this comment was made during the grilling of the expert, would have been gold

[@terrybunsey8015]

She doesn’t want to examine or mold the teeth because it would prove that they’re NOT DOG BITES!!! Karen is more worried about her appearance than anything else and it’s making me sick to my stomach for the sake of the fact that she knows what happened

[@ExcitedTropicalSailboat-kw1mh]

Sick of this prosecution and Court TV so called experts saying that the marks on his arm isn't Dog bites. I can literally prove beyond a shadow of doubt that it is 💯 % a dog bite. The defense should get in touch with me and I have the EXACT same bite marks that are now scars and I have documentation that shows from the ER that it was from my dogs. They are literally railroading this woman because he was an abusive police officer and they're hell bent on making her guilty of something that she didn't do. The judge is BIASED and Court TV both want her guilty for TV ratings and could care less that this woman's life would be ruined. I think it's ignorance that they say she planted the seed ! No she was giving her account on what was going on and The Fact the Dog has Attacked him before and they keep dismissing that fact. No wonder they had a miss trial. Court TV tried to convince everyone that Johnny Depp was a violent woman beater to and did everything to sway everyone's opinion. We all now know Amber was the violent one. They are wrong for what they're doing.

[@davidtiessen7713]

Melanie Little (lawyer) had Florida Police K9 trainer on her YT channel. He showed his training gear, rubberized forearm, it looks just like O'Keefe's arm and he showed a video of a woman getting bit by a shepard and her lacerations looked exactly the same. Decades experience, believes he's seen more dog bites than any expert and he's unequivical - dog bite and maybe even police trained shepeard (cant remember its been a while)

[@greg1mcintosh844]

Wow you're convincing

[@LoveFree333]

The high school gossip girls sitting behind Karen the whole time

[@Amy-zs8tx]

Yeah you can see their jealousy of Karen! When the brother looks at Karen, his wife always looks at him!! 😂😂😂😂

[@terrybunsey8015]

@@Amy-zs8txyou’re sickening and he’s looking at a liar and a drunken idiot who is trying to take advantage of ppl power instead of owning up to her actions that she CAN’T even remember that night!!!!

[@coxcox7350]

​@@terrybunsey8015Exactly 💯 no one is jealous of that cold hearted thing.

[@jackierowbottom5268]

That judge is clearly not listening she is more bothered about twirling in her chair. She should definitely be taken off this case

[@GRMLS5]

So the defense's case is...John O’Keefe drooped off by Karen Reed, walks into the house, and gets attacked by the dog, so the people in the house club him over the head to save the dog, dump him in the snow, they break Karen's tail light, put John's DNA on it, then put the pieces of tail light on his cloths & disappears the dog DNA all before dawn in the cold & snow? Also, the expert tells how hypothermia probably explains the loss of his shoe on the road...he became conscious, took off his shoe put it on the road, and then laid back down in the snow although there were houses he could have got to?

[@catme13]

People are so dumb, they actually believe this ,I don't know if it has to do that they are Americans? I mean, they voted Trump into office once again...somethings not right with these people!

[@Let6Me23Reflect]

Uh-oh, Dr. Russell did a bad job. Things don't look too good for Karen Read. If the SJC doesn't drop her second-degree murder charge, she might want to come up with another approach or take a plea. DA Brennan is not fooling around. Jackson is struggling to keep from screaming. It looks like Karen wanted to burst into tears when Dr. Russell took the bait from Brennan and spoke to a "pedestrian collision"-ouch!

[@jane6989]

I know one guy on line showed dog bites that looked like John's arm, however, if you do a google search for bite marks, none of the dozens of pics look like John's arm.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Did you jane? I found many

[@MrPotterb33]

"I don't know if I'd wanna get close to Chloe" lol

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

She’s an idiot, doesn’t know this poor dog.

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

I wonder how the other Prosecutor feels about being dumped

[@Ms.truecrimebuff]

Uhm, I think he’s sitting at the same table with this prosecutor? Smh

[@Theblessing-UL]

He looked like he went rounds with Mike Tyson. Not a cracked taillight. Truth will prevail.

[@Eaton_Beavers]

Just fast forward to the closing arguments!!! Listen to what the Commonwealth argues and then the defense. She will be allowed to be an expert witness

[@AC-gu7rg]

You can also bet you ass , that when karen is found not guilty the judge will not except it and declare a miss trial again because she wants her bonus !

[@terrybunsey8015]

Go away all you Karen Read fans and maybe it wasn’t handled well but you sick ppl forget how messed up your Karen was and can’t seem to remember what happened and even said maybe l ran over him or killed him. GMAB

[@kc-wk1kz]

Dr. Marie Russell: Consider her experience in her occupation. She's more than qualified.

[@kc-wk1kz]

And it's puzzling how her qualifications for the testimony is called in to question, but not the qualification of Trooper Paul, who is likely a fine trooper for sure, but is not qualified for the testimony he gave which made no sense imo. Dr. Rentschler's testimony made sense. (And Dr. Russell's)

[@AHedgecliff4977]

And this lawyer is acting very unprofessional using tactics that are looking desperate

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@kc-wk1kzexactly!!

[@seanwallace3516]

The witness was battered. Read is a killer. Sick of you psycho conspiracy theorists who think 10 people got together to kill john. Absolute backward people live in this world

[@terrybunsey8015]

@@kc-wk1kzgo away Karen Read Fan 🙄

[@terrybunsey8015]

Where did they get this lady, she doesn’t make sense with her responses, here we go again with another waste of taxpayer dollars

[@ItIsAmare]

Why she don't look sad? I mean, your boyfriend died. You can tell when someone is suffering and I been looking at the victim's mom and Karen and their behavior when loosing someone do not match. Mom from the beginning looked very sad. Karen seems to smirk, laugh, smile, ect.. but i have not yet seen her show any sadness over her dead boyfriend.

[@izabela1961]

She knows she is guilty so she is playing strong to get away with this.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@@ItIsAmare she is rather robotish. Only emotion I've seen is when she goes out and faces her supporters

[@Tinks82]

It also happened three years ago. Is she not crying enough for you?

[@annebosworth7048]

People love to hate her so it wouldn't what she did...on the day she was hysterical..

[@sherrycostonde]

@@Tinks82she wasn’t even able to properly grieve. She was wrongly accused

[@Theblessing-UL]

5:25:05 there seems to be some words missing. Aunt- No you missed a word. Well, this credible doctor and retired cop who is quite precious and elderly has been on the stand for over 5 hours at this point.

[@michaelrice80]

This Court has zero credibility

[@gla1224]

Exactly

[@AHedgecliff4977]

With ya!

[@Michaelcollin-wu2ng]

Hank Brennan is a surgeon. He walked the doctor right into admitting that she didn’t actually complete any differential diagnosis or analysis. He got her to admit she didn’t know there was taillight fragment on the clothing, didn’t know how many pieces of taillight, didn’t know all this other information… then asked whether her conclusion or opinion would change now that she has this information… And she walked right into it and said no my opinion doesn’t change…. She disqualified herself right there . That was amazing .

[@annebosworth7048]

No she didn't...she has more experience than everyone else put together not just on dog bites but on all injuries..

[@Brett323]

@@Michaelcollin-wu2ng lol cope harder. this comment reads like copy pasta. how can someone be so delusional? Anonymous or not you have to live with yourself, the person who apparently thinks that way haha

[@Piat65]

@@annebosworth7048 She very well may have that, but that’s not what she brought to the stand

[@Michaelcollin-wu2ng]

@@annebosworth7048listen she had a long and respectable career as an emergency medicine doctor… no one is taking that away from her. But that does not make her an expert in forensic veterinary odontology. Her method for determining the cause of the injuries to the arm and her opinion that it’s conclusively dog bites is that she treated people for dog bites as an ER doctor. She cannot point to any other methodology and that simply falls short of the standard required. We use ER doctors all the time in criminal cases for their expert opinions… testifying about ketoacidosis and its symptoms when a diabetic defendant is charged with impaired driving for example . But when it comes to bite mark opinions board certified forensic odontologists are used. You need to ask yourself why wouldn’t the defense hire a forensic odontologists when the cause of the injury is wholly material to their defense …. The answer is because no forensic odontologists would ever agree these are dog bite wounds .

[@LoveFree333]

Hank Brennan is a rat who knows he is wrong, so he has to fight dirty. Also, sneakers don't come off in side swipes. I wouldn't let Hank near me.

[@11B3P]

They’re spending a lot of time, questioning part evidence, but I was led to believe in civics classes that the defense is only required to indicate reasonable doubt?

[@AHedgecliff4977]

I know, spending time on the triggering aspect! You gotta wander why this woman needs to be proven to be “less than” a specialist in her field … I always find that the focus on one area can be an area of concern 😅

[@11B3P]

@ if the facts are on your side, argue, the facts, if not argue the law, if not argue to emotion

[@greg1mcintosh844]

Damn ... So frustrating: explain yourself lady you're almost there why can't you say the pattern is pairing of the canines. Why can't you say all the scars/abrasions are caused by teeth because you completely confound everything when you bring in the claws and you lose your credibility by including claws. Ffs drop the claw scratches. It's the PAIRING of the CANINES that's key. And I the fact they vary in distance between them is due to differences in relative angle of the arm to the orientation of the fixed jaw and teeth. The steeper the angle, the closer the canines marks/abrasions/parallel lines. Where they're not, it's due to pinching of the skin during the struggle. Next, you must impress that the lines/longitudinal (length) abrasions/striations is the function of body pulling AWAY from the dog. Less a function of the dog pulling alone but the tug-o-war between dog and man. Omg wish I was testifying.

[@mycat1064]

Brennan thinks he is very smart. If this is all he has then the CW are screwed.

[@gailstubbs7717]

He is very smart

[@11B3P]

They keep talking about glass, once again where is the glass in the back of a modern car?

[@darrenlocke5627]

Planted by the police. Lens are plastic, it broken glass on the car.

[@11B3P]

@ just being facetious

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

The marks on the arm could be from when she hit him the car,the 2 puncture would could have been tree or bush or something besides dog marks, she was mad at him and very drunk,she hit him with the car.she already don't seem to bright, and her very drunk would be a disaster.

[@gwig3630]

She says a number of times to different people and during interviews, “I hit him!”

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@gwig3630that's not real evidence cause some say did I hit him not I hit him.

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

She hit him n she knows she did,he he

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@Cherry-m2f5lwhere is the proof he has no broken bones no bruising what hit him in the back of his head a car don't leave scratches

[@drick5493]

There’s no bush or tree near where his body was found. Do more homework and get back to us. We wish you well.

[@kimberlyrecoskie3790]

This woman’s testimony is extremely weak. She has seen and treated some dog bites in the ER and then is considered by the defence as an expert witness. She can not even describe dog bite characteristics, and instead stumbles over her words and has trouble articulating medically and scientifically what is asked of her.

[@blakekaveny]

She’s actually been published in multiple medical journals as a dog bite expert. Also she did describe the characteristics but Brennan kept trying to force her to say stuff she wasn’t trying to say

[@kimberlyrecoskie3790]

You would never know by her lack of knowledge and competence on the subject matter. She also cannot reference other journal articles that have researched dog bites, nor can she explain their methodologies and findings. She just tried to reiterate prosecutor Brennan’s naming and description of one of the many articles earlier in his questioning of her. The prosecutor has displayed better knowledge than this witness of the field of research on dog bites.

[@DavidUSA2525]

If Read didn't have resting smug face it might improve the perception of her.

[@GRMLS5]

How do you get dog wounds without dog DNA? Hope that question is asked!

[@blakekaveny]

Yes and she answered it. She said theirs multiple ways in which evidence can be tainted to so that the DNA disappears

[@GRMLS5]

@@blakekaveny Yea, I can say that too...there are multiple ways evidence can be tainted so that DNA disappears. Some expert!

[@RobWilson-m1e]

Laying in the snow for hours took dog dna away. Very likely

[@katbedbury389]

Guilty.

[@tonyautonga]

He's not saying too much itself repeating the same thing every three seconds

[@petewoodroffemusic]

Do dogs repeatedly bite a dead or non-moving object without tearing flesh etc??!!

[@darrenlocke5627]

Dude was alive when biten? Died in the hospital, after the MacAlbert butt dialed each other.

[@anitaphuck6651]

@@darrenlocke5627no, he died on scene. He was dead before the hospital but I do believe he was bit inside the house.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@anitaphuck6651he was found I responsive and pronounced dead at hospital

[@faithyoung4999]

This judge is soooo corrupt. I cannot. Why else would she agree to handle the re-trial and then continue to act like this??? Absolutely PATHETIC judge with an absolutely PATHETIC abuse of the justice system. Don’t @ me idgaf

[@terrybunsey8015]

You Karen Read fans need to hold her accountable and quit instead of trying to make excuses for her behavior and actions, like these dog bites and this woman testifying can’t even prove it and Karen needs to stop wasting taxpayers money. It’s pathetic and disgusting how no one cares about the victim🤔. Karen, Karen and more Fake Karen 🤬🤬🤬

[@terrybunsey8015]

Whatever, because it’s NOT going in your Karen Read fan club favor now!!! 🙄🙄🙄

[@HopeDavis-gw6ul]

She sees right through Karen and her bs

[@carelvanwyk6048]

Karen Reads is guilty and should go to jail. The medical doctor's expert evidence is the worse I have ever heard

[@kc-wk1kz]

Trooper Paul's ''expert'' opinion is one of the worst testimonies I have ever heard. I think he means well, but his theory made zero sense. And considering his education and experience, Trooper Paul is not in the least bit experienced in the subject he was called to testify for. Trooper Paul is no doubt very highly qualified to be a trooper, but not qualified for what he was testifying about. Dr. Rentschler is a truly qualified and experienced professional and his testimony made actual sense.

[@VegaBorn]

It’s not though. She stood by your ground and was honest. Did u see the ending? I bet not

[@VegaBorn]

@@kc-wk1kzthese people clearly are just commenting from what they seen from today. They have no clue what’s really going on.

[@wandarebeca1]

This dog witness could just as well be one of the Karen Read crazies rallying outside the courthouse. Her should've-could've-would've testimony, based on her own "experience ", is laughable. IMO

[@jax6588]

It’s about a cop they won’t let it go if it was anyone else the wouldn’t give a sht

[@maimurbach9]

Murder is murder

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

Ikr?? It's a little redic

[@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609]

Besides, they are trying to frame an INOCENT.

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@winstonsmith-ministryoftru1609 maybe maybe not. Too much missing. Things often will look one-way and end up being something totally different. I try and look at it from every view. TRUTH. That's what I'm after. 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@AC-gu7rg]

You bet your ass if this was a regular citizen , they wouldn't give a damned !

[@catme13]

What an utter disaster,...she has no qualifications to prove that these marks comes from a dog. It was painful to watch!

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

Wrong.

[@IreneAnthony-f6p]

She is guilty

[@cupcake19601]

This Brennan character is very aggressive and comes across very ignorant to me!!!!! I still think the judge will not let this dog bite expert in because I truly believe she wants the STATE TO WIN!!!!!

[@jackierowbottom5268]

She wants Karen to be found guilty , so she's definitely not going to allow the dog bite evidence in.

[@catme13]

And what was Allan Jackson then? !

[@Kay-ez4uf]

Court tv- Officer O Keefe in MA Trial Many said he didn not make it into the after party Died fr dog attack and trauma in the cold weather Many said Officer did not make it in the house party Owner said dog disappeared / - sold So where is the dog? Find that dog Need more forensic on that dog Theirs never checked out

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Handy solutions … just remove evidence. Dog,(gone) phones (gone). Sold out judge (yes) So hard to win even with all this back up. Why why why haven’t the prosecution walked out on top?? This court is completely dirty and corrupt

[@HeyyyRobyn]

Hank is so goooooooood! Justice for John!

[@sandrah0330]

@HeyyyRobyn - He was on the ball! Alan J has met his match!

[@ruckbarbie]

Holy pot, kettle, black! 2 words for Brennan: Trooper.Paul.

[@daniellethomas2915]

I don’t view this daubert hearing and prosecutions motions as running scared. I view it as they mean business and we need this murderer lock away in prison for killing John O’Keefe.

[@kristenjustkristen9462]

Oh please, this is a shitshow and the world knows it. Corrupt crooked cops, awful bias judge, and inept prosecution. Clowns! 🤡

[@annebosworth7048]

They need proof to lock her away but they don't have any..

[@annebosworth7048]

No evidence to prove she hit him.

[@daniellethomas2915]

@@annebosworth7048that’s laughable

[@jane6989]

I think this expert will be allowed to testify, but the prosecution needs to make it clear this is just her theory, not facts.

[@saraha5847]

She’s innocent. 🎉🎉 retrial is ridiculous

[@Theblessing-UL]

Daniel M. Wolfe, Ph.D. Dr. Wolfe is the Director of Accident Reconstruction and specializes in the fields of accident reconstruction, human factors, and lighting. He is a specialist for our federal government and our military. He is an expert in physics. He testified it is with absolute certainty that Karen Read is innocent and to say she is guilty is to deny physics.

[@Tinks82]

Exactly 💯

[@comfortandjoys]

Deny physics? How did Karen tail light gets smashed then?? ARCCA said it didn’t happen when she tapped bumpers with John’s car. Remember that?

[@toria5837]

So what thats one guy not God

[@blakekaveny]

@@toria5837the FBI has this case and chose to not bring charges. The fed has a 97% conviction rate so if they choose to not bring charges that means the evidence isn’t there.

[@Hilshow5179]

Even if Mr Brennan does try really hard to exclude Dr Russell.. good luck excluding the Arcaa scientists!!!

[@hall2ify]

She'll get off on your man's ignorance alone ,lally obviously demoted

[@brendavincent]

Why is this judge back? I find her unfair, unjust and completely bias. She is always more concerned with having breaks and what time they will finish the day. Sending strength to the John's family, how heartbreaking to go through this all over again.

[@donnaj257]

I believe she hit him with the car. He didn’t die from the injuries but died of hypothermia. He hit his head that knocked him out. They were all intoxicated

[@a.d.3478]

I believe he just slipped, hit his head and didnt wake up anymore, and the cold temperatures did the rest.

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

Yes think that is close

[@karlamaebosse2528]

@@a.d.3478 so then, how did Karen's Lexus get damaged and how did John's DNA get on the vehicle at the site of the damage? And don't say she shattered her tail light tapping his vehicle at low speed later that morning - that's been debunked.

[@annebosworth7048]

No proof she hit him with her car so can't see how the jury will find her guilty

[@jane6989]

@@a.d.3478 explain the marks on his arm and tears in his sweater then. She hit him. She was pissed off he was going into this house that she did not dare go in due to her trying to get it on with another cop who was there. John had no idea.

[@cupcake19601]

She isn’t even paying attention!!! She has no interest in justice for anyone!!!! She should be removed from this case!!!!

[@lorettakandrot4180]

Agreed she was not paying attention today or yesterday especially... she's too one sided

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

I haven’t ever seen someone get killed by a tail light ever 🫢

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

I hope the judge won’t be one sided again

[@Ms.truecrimebuff]

I’m liking this prosecutor!

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

That makes you a moron.

[@tonyautonga]

If he say methodology one more time, that's your favorite word for the day. But way too they get in court install talking about. How they preserve the evidence. Let's see what you'll answer is gonna be then sir rude man

[@amy_boston]

Whether Chloe, a rabid raccoon, a bear or any other wild animal bit John, doesn’t matter. What matters is that these deep gauges, all the way up and down, John’s arm were impossible to do with a broken plastic tail light. You can’t put a square peg into a circle. This is 1st grade physics.

[@alysonhall5409]

I disagree with the dog expert on court TV today, saying dog claws are not sharp, I have a dog claws scar on my leg my quad to be precise from 11years ago which was done by a Siberian husky cross who jumped up at me and claws drew blood and I was left with a scar. So totally disagree with the court TV dog expert. As I have a scar that proves otherwise

[@mimiity9585]

Guilty or innocent. Karen looks smug, arrogant and mean. Kinda witchy looking.

[@RETROMV]

Indeed very creepy!

[@Elsley12]

The “Joker”.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

So what, she can look anyway she wants. It’s evidence that counts.

[@toria5837]

With our corrupt judicial system i hope shes found guilty just for her narcisstic smug know it all attitude thats only loving all this attention and has not looked remorsful toward the O'Keefe family at all. Which proves her selfishness. Wished he woukd of got rid of her just one week before. Hed still be here.

[@LoveFree333]

There's no justice in your comment. It shouldn't matter whether you like the person or not, only the truth should matter. The corruption is with the system not Karen.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

@@LoveFree333great response. These people are not commenting using any factual findings just stories they’ve taken as truth

[@anitaphuck6651]

They took moulds of Chloe’s paws and teeth? Wow! I watched the entire previous trial, as well as quite a few online channels. I was under the impression they didn’t even know for sure where Chloe was. Hmmm…

[@Piat65]

@@anitaphuck6651 The homeowner said she’s placed the dog with someone north of Boston

[@blakekaveny]

The don’t think that matters. I know that when it comes to humans bite marks you can go so far. Like say I bit you well the evidence would show that you were bit by a human but you couldn’t go so far as to say who bit you because skin is elastic so it makes it near impossible to match bit marks

[@anitaphuck6651]

@@blakekavenyfair enough but I think I have seen cases where they can actually line up the bite mark with an xray.

[@blakekaveny]

@@anitaphuck6651 Maybe they did that in the past but nowadays not so much anymore because like I said most medical experts now don’t trust bite mark analysis. Because skin stretches and contracts. That’s why she’s just saying a dog and not specifically what type of dog because she can’t do that because theirs not one specific way to know which type of dog

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Oh lord, this prosecution tactic is harassing and not showing a lack of knowledge and/or experience Ok mate, keep trying to badger and confuse a specialist in her field on dog bites… it isn’t conducive to changing facts to suit the story

[@VegaBorn]

Clearly the commenters in this section did not watch the WHOLE trial. Get invested before you make assumptions about what you THINK you know about this case. If ANYONE has followed it, you don’t need common sense to know Karen is INNOCENT. she’s smiling , she’s been thru hell! How would you feel if CORRUPT law enforcement was out to make you look like a killer and also slander your name along the way? I’d feel damn good about any win I got.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

With ya!! It’s a paid mob or errr a paid mob lol

[@hook4art257]

They are trying to their best to convict Karen and the judge is trying just as hard

[@templeyoung2423]

Dr. Russell seems like the type to bluff her way through life. Unconvincingly

[@nashuasmith3931]

Her 16 years of college definitely makes her very suspicious. She bluffed her way into being the first female police officer in Malden Ma. & then bluffed her way into MIT & UMass medical to become a doctor. Her 27 years experience as an emergency room doctor & then a forensic pathologist & director for the LA county prison system is definitely suspect as well. She bluffed it ALL!

[@IMSHARP777]

Bev still allowing everything for Brennan, Ill Allow it !! 😂 DR.RUSSELL ❤ is great. Hank is outmatched professionally.

[@rhondajones-zs7nw]

He’s fabulous - move over Jackson you’ve met your match

[@CharleneDaniels-w5q]

Get Cesar millan dog expert

[@liznicholas922]

That close up of the judges face ..

[@AHedgecliff4977]

So much time on disproving the dog bite theory… hmmm

[@user-dq1sz1qb2f]

Hank Brennan is trying way too hard to discredit her, it’s pathetic hearing the desperation in his voice. Those are obvious dog bites.

[@jennusaf7702]

Yeah I’ve been bitten by a dog and that’s what it looks like to me…puncture wounds hurt like hell too!

[@confused86996]

Hank brennan has to do double the work because of the paid for defense.

[@AHedgecliff4977]

Quite desperate and a bit interesting. Why spend all this time one someone who’s obviously very well schooled in this area. Maybe a hint of concern ??

[@annkelliher3461]

Alessyee is too much of a kiss ass. Not sure what team he is on!!

[@gingerpullin4933]

I CANT STAND THIS JUDGE .....

[@Justice4m.tthewN0rth]

Hank Brennan is the GOAT. He even got the defense expert witness to admit she hit him with the car in reverse😂 what are we even doing here

[@11B3P]

I’m not quite clear who you’re talking about, but the expert witness has given so much credence to the to the level of reasonable doubt the policeman did nothing to contact the people in the home. The policeman got rid of their phones. The policeman sent to investigate clearly had already determined that she was guilty, the evidence was collected poorly and in some cases actually can be considered to be discredited because of the actions of the police. I don’t know what goat you’re talking about.

[@Benzsportspicks_CriminalMedia]

What are you talking about those wounds were from Kloey the dog and she NEVER WAVERED from saying those wounds on John’s arm was from a Dog Bite period !! Oh and BTW the reason we are here is so the State of Massachusetts can waste more money trying to Prosecute an Innocent woman “ Karen Read “ she is Innocent , the Retired Police Family of Criminals and Brian Higgins accidentally killed John O’Keefe NOT KAREN READ !!!

[@annebosworth7048]

​@@11B3Pagree

[@annebosworth7048]

What witness made her admit it..

[@LAfather]

@@Justice4m.tthewN0rth hope theres no justice for your matt 😂😂✌🏾

[@eileentschari9838]

She is innocent/ the right arm marks are dog bites and a boot mark like he got stomped to death. He was drunk when he arrived at the party and he was angry his girlfriend just left him there. A fight probably insued with those at the party/ which he may have had a beef with someone there at the party/ and left him outside/ and got there stories straight. He had no crushing injuries right?? He had blunt force trauma injuries right?? A car would have crushed his bones..was there evidence of this at autopsy??? The marks on his right arm are dog bites and boot marks he was stomped to death...

[@maimurbach9]

Bullshit

[@purepoison618]

Secrets are hard to keep. The bigger the secret, the more a conscience beckons one to relieve themself of their secret. For a house full of people, aged from young males through to adults to keep a massive secret seems unlikely to believe. Not even one of these people, got too drunk one night and let their lips tell the tale? Not one, after between the sheets loving, was there even one participant, who did some deep pillow talk? I just can’t buy that. One (or more) of those involved in your perceived gang-sized coverup, would have blabbed the truth to someone. There is a reason the saying, *Two people can know a secret, if one of the two are dead* was coined. In this case, you are expecting me to believe multiple people know the secret and none have breathed a word. I simply don’t believe human nature works that way.

[@comfortandjoys]

He got beat, bitten, stripped of his phone, stomped, thrown against a barbell set in front of a house full of people and ALL in less than 8 minutes. Oh yeah and wasn’t he running up and down stairs BEFORE he even got there? HOW can you possibly believe this?

[@confused86996]

And you were there to see all this? She hit him with her car

[@confused86996]

​@@purepoison618She killed him

[@nicolap4765]

Judge is biased in my opinion. I think it’s pretty obvious too!

[@animallovefest143]

Asked and answered! This guy straight out of the gate is annoying... Lally Jr!

[@gingerpullin4933]

Does the prosecutor have ANY PROOF that those wounds ARE FROM THE LENS OF THE CAR ..... NOOOOO YOU DONT

[@Ceeshore]

anyone else think this prosecutor is a geek, lol

[@LoveFree333]

Yes he's awful.

[@annb8296]

I think he's an idiot and a moron.

[@gingerpullin4933]

There was NO TRACES OF GLASS OR PIECES OF TAIL LIGHT LENS IN HIS WOUNDS EITHER

[@11B3P]

How many times does this guy allowed to ask the same question it’s just gonna be a copy of the other one

[@AHedgecliff4977]

This judge loves a good prosecution

[@billydeveraux9112]

KAREN WILL BE FOUND GUILTY THIS TRIAL

[@MEMELIFEBABY]

A sharp object does not leave abrasions on the skin, now, a dull object like a K-9 incisor will leave abrasions like that on the skin. No one in the history of getting cut by glass has had injuries like that.

[@imboredDB]

Patching up the podium😂😂😂😂

[@ginaslattery6275]

New judge! He is disgusting too. She is one of the most educated Dr I have seen.

[@TheWhiteRabbitss]

What a strange looking beard

[@Piat65]

I’m saying, it’s all over the place.

[@gingerpullin4933]

Notice when its the DEFENSE...They get interrupted

[@sarahcampbell2729]

I’m watching from the Eastern UK

[@susankeene2785]

So?

[@Elsley12]

Russell can’t explain her methodology in her conclusion. Her “dog bite” theory has been trashed by Brennan. Good job today in this courtroom!

[@Tinks82]

😂😂😂

[@926paaja]

😂😂😂 did you take a shot every time he asked a question? He’s a joke just like the rest of them She’s innocent

[@Elsley12]

@@926paaja you’ve been duped and severely manipulated in your thinking. Go listen to Karen Read prosecutor podcast. It shows clearly how ridiculous this cover up story is and how the evidence shows that KR is definitely guilty, 101%

[@annebosworth7048]

She's a expert...I'm not but they look more like dog bites then being hit by a car..

[@926paaja]

@ we have eyes and ears though .. agreed not a car ..

[@MEMELIFEBABY]

Brennan is getting super specific with the expert testimony voir dire . “Do you have any experience with dark colored Lexus SUV taillights during a winter snow storm when it’s nine degrees outside and the wind is blowing in from a northeasterly direction while standing on one foot, you don’t do you? Ha, I got you you 40 year experienced physician you.”

[@jennameeks5136]

Karen is Not Guilty, Definitely dog bites Go back listen to the whole trial & all the States witnesses that lied & all the evidence & John's marks on arm & John's clothing that was slice marks from claws definitely dog bites End of story The sate is just intimidated by the defense cause they know too that this was indeed dog bites & that the defense has a good case standing. The state just be grasping for facts that's not really there & there mad cause the defense made them all look bad in the first trial. Included This very Biased & annoying Judge. PEOPLE NEED TO GOOGLE & SEE THE PHOTOS OF WHAT DOG BITES ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, this definitely not marks here from being struck by any vehicle.

[@CharleneDaniels-w5q]

You really think a dog killed him? Duh!

[@jennameeks5136]

@CharleneDaniels-w5q The dog attacted him He died of Hypothermia Duh. 😂

[@The.Chosen.one-II]

I have not finished watching this but it will not surprise me at all if Judge Bias excludes this more than qualified doctor.

[@emmitt5443]

The utter stupidity of " the most import dog bite doctor in the United States " saying a dog as large as Khole can bite someone on the arm up to 4 times and not once use it's under jaw is insane. Not to mention the elbow " bite" anyone that has a dog know if they chop down on a BONE they ain't letting go without ripping the skin to shreds.

[@emmitt5443]

lets face it -- they were drunk - they had a fight - he was gonna dump her - he got out of the car - slipped or dropped something - at the same time she was throwing the car in reverse and hit him - she knew she hit him and didn't give a crap. did she mean to kill him ? probably not / but she sure as hell didn't get out of the car to check on him.

[@darrenlocke5627]

This is not true, was Chloe a police trained dog? I think it’s insane to think a 6 foot guy could get hit in the elbow by a car, not have any bruises to his arm, but the back of his head is caved in and his face broken. What hit his face? The prosecutor has to prove that, if you don’t know after 3 years, maybe they can’t prove it?

[@LornaSpicer]

Where there any dog prints at the scene of the crime!? No, then there you go with this expert!

[@Cherry-m2f5l]

Good point👍

[@snowwhite7571]

It was snowing 🤷‍♀️

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@@snowwhite7571 that's what I thought. We've seen the videos. Horrible storm.

[@11B3P]

You mean, after all the cops had walked over the snow, also after none of the people that were in the house came out to inquire what was going on. Do you mean after that one cop was talking about something called a balloon knot seriously

[@Tinks82]

It could've happened in the house & if it happened outside, there was a snow storm.

[@gingerpullin4933]

And did I say ....I can not stand this Judge

[@66pbrown]

Don’t write in the notebooks!!!! They read them .

[@MrPotterb33]

Not this same judge!?!

[@sarahcampbell2729]

Why is she flirting with the attorney

[@toria5837]

She always is flirting with that attorney she's disgusting

[@EmilyGta6]

I bet the attorneys wife is asking the same question ⁉️

[@greg1mcintosh844]

Okay that's the first I heard about chards embedded in the sweater fabric. That's the nail in the coffin. That's The shard in the jail cell. Guilty.

[@ShoahshanaGoldbergShekelstein]

That's fake news.

[@lorrainedimitrovski5698]

Have they changed the Prosecutor there