Liverpool Legend on Being SACKED By BBC & Jürgen Klopp's Legendary Legacy - Mark Lawrenson

Liverpool FC all time great Mark Lawrenson opens up being sacked by BBC and discusses his thoughts on Jürgen Klopp's legacy at Liverpool.
Timecodes
0:00 Mark Lawrenson
1:18 SACKED BY BBC
9:10 VAR is Broken
14:36 Football Media
19:39 How I Can Help You
21:37 Liverpool Boot Room
27:57 Money Changed Football
37:27 Signing For Liverpool
46:27 Robert Maxwell paid me off
56:07 I Had to Quit
1:00:07 Match of The Day
1:06:37 Jurgen Klopp LEGACY
1:20:07 England
1:24:27 Gary Neville & Jamie Carragher
1:30:07 Marcus Rashford
1:33:27 Q&A
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Timecodes 0:00 Mark Lawrenson 1:18 SACKED BY BBC 9:10 VAR is Broken 14:36 Football Media 19:39 How I Can Help You 21:37 Liverpool Boot Room 27:57 Money Changed Football 37:27 Signing For Liverpool 46:27 Robert Maxwell paid me off 56:07 I Had to Quit 1:00:07 Match of The Day 1:06:37 Jurgen Klopp LEGACY 1:20:07 England 1:24:27 Gary Neville & Jamie Carragher 1:30:07 Marcus Rashford 1:33:27 Q&A

[@Teeko2003]

Mark outing the BBC to be parasites is bliss. Meanwhile lineker running the BBC is embarrassing. As an Irishman and liverpool fan mark lawrenson was a hero to me. Fluk the BBC

[@stevewells273]

One of the best 5 centre Halfs iv seen and I saw Beckenbauer! The combination with Hansen is the best pairing I've ever seen .

[@ianthomas1060]

@@stevewells273 Lawrenson & Hansen... without a doubt no football team has had two genuine world class centre halves at the same time.....Maybe Baresi & Costacurta are close (and they won everything with those two). Proves how important that position is.

[@GK-fq3cy]

No mention he actually played for Ireland,

[@ianseward9928]

BBC makes me laugh . Supposed to be non discriminatory, woke , inclusive etc . But they themselves discriminated against all of the mentioned presenters on the basis of age we assume . They’ve lost heavyweights and employed light weights . Tv and radio has suffered dreadfully.

[@christopher_ecclestone]

Lawro tells him he once went for dinner with Ghislaine Maxwell, and says he knows for sure that Robert Maxwell was pushed off his boat, and this interviewer breezes past it like nothing happened. Come on, man!

[@davidburgess3579]

Maxwell and Epstein were shut up by Trump I'm sure of it.

[@masonfreeparty]

does anyone care though...maxwell was a crook

[@1972dsrai]

He was probably still in nappies when it happened.

[@1972dsrai]

@@masonfreepartyAnd had plenty of reasons to fake his death and with his close connections to Israeli security services could have been helped to do it.

[@danielkelly6034]

I thought that, he mentioned maxwell a few times and the other guy just said nothing. I thought, he probably doesn't even know who he is. Unbelievable

[@TelemachusS1]

I was at the match with four mates when Mark snapped his Achilles, there was a loud cracking sound, we were all season ticket holders, Colin one of the five who played a little said “ that’s his Achilles gone, that’s him finished” we were all gutted he and Alan where a great partnership, at Alan’s first ever match at Anfield, half way through, Colin said you’ll do me lad. What a pair they were, all watching from the Anfield Road end. Now in my 87th year I am the only one left of the five, sadly I am not able to go to the matches now but still have my club membership and keep up with Liverpool TV.

[@zorbathegeek]

Good times. Thanks for sharing

[@paulmurray750]

I was on The Kop that day, everyone knew it was a bad injury. Actually ended the season without a trophy, which was down to missing Lawro. Enjoy the rest of the season fella. YNWA.

[@M-nm6rq]

That cracking was a crisp packet or a loud fart. Achilles don’t make any noise when they rapture. You’re story is heartwarming but untrue, on many levels. 🤥🤥🤥

[@zorbathegeek]

@@M-nm6rq sorry Doc, but you're wrong: "If your Achilles tendon ruptures, you might hear a pop, followed by an immediate sharp pain in the back of your ankle and lower leg that is likely to affect your ability to walk properly. Surgery is often performed to repair the rupture." And your grammar is crap

[@stephenwood8800]

​@@M-nm6rquntrue. Your comment is the most stupid comment I have seen. Total rubbish. You are so wrong

[@whodoyouratemore]

How does the interviewer not know who Robert Maxwell or Dean Saunders is.. Flabbergasted

[@Gerrcinn]

well he's twelve

[@alanwllms5172]

....and a half

[@Philoyouknow]

or Trevor Francis? Baffling.

[@valuetraveler2026]

he is quite young

[@kerryogrady3637]

Why would he,he's six years old.Robert Maxwell was killed in 1843 and Dean Saunders played for Liverpool when they were shit in the middle ages,Oliver Cromwell was centre back.

[@paulhill1796]

Met Lawro in the mid 1990's, genuinely fantastic bloke.

[@MrFord4210]

Lawro a true legend. Thank you for this interview and his honesty. His insight and humour are greatly missed. Why isn't he still co-commentating for the BBC on tv or on radio 5?

[@bushmonster1702]

Alan Hansen got it right. Earn your money and get out.

[@jeremymerrifield7244]

He was a miserable useless,lazy pundit

[@WildlifeUKNatureByGlenO]

Yes, absolutely correct. 👍

[@sqmilenews7052]

Ben. Your general knowledge is absolutely shocking! How can you never have heard of the people Mark refers to?

[@basylpeterjones]

Young people are crap at general knowledge. Have you ever seen a TV quiz?

[@billybigtime2808]

I support Liverpools rivals but I can’t speak how highly I rated Mark as a player he was absolutely outstanding he hardly put a foot wrong

[@1972dsrai]

Alongside Hansen they were one of the best pairings ever.

[@robertmoulson5685]

As a kid in the 70s I was football mad and we went to Brighton for a day out and I was kicking my ball and a very tall man said gis a kick so I did an we started playing football my dad said after that was Mark who played for Brighton at the time a legend who loves football and played with me a kick about Happy days 😊

[@samdavepollard]

great story - greetings from a brighton fan

[@2014Bboy]

He speaks a lot of sense - especially regarding all the jargon modern-day pundits endlessly prattle on about. Back in the day we just used to watch a football match, appreciate the game and get on with it. Now we have ex-players messing around on giant touch screens, telling us all about high-lines, pressing, low-blocks, transitions, channels, blah blah blah. Mind-numbing.

[@PatKennedydon]

What a player, saw him for ireland and Liverpool and a true honest gent.

[@digeme69]

Together with Hansen were one of the best centre back pairings of all time.

[@jonbyrnes4349]

He’d stand up against vvd at his peak ! Great defender

[@basylpeterjones]

​@@jonbyrnes4349Completely different: he was much quicker than Van Dijk and could play in attacking roles as well as anywhere across the back.

[@Coxy_Wrecked]

@@basylpeterjones But VVD a better defender.

[@basylpeterjones]

@@Coxy_Wrecked In the air, only.

[@NightcapLover]

I prefer this version of Lawro, with the handbrake off and telling it like it is, a really enjoyable watch/listen..

[@Fogonthetyne69]

Alex Scot has ruined Football Focus. It was such a good program when Mark Lawrencon was on the show

[@Donatello-br4fd]

Shes not a nice person to be around apparently

[@andy-wn1hq]

Totaly agree i watched it since the 80s not since she took over i don't rate her as a presenter or pundit.

[@InYourHeadChangedMan]

It was shite before with him on it and MOTD hasn't been good since Des Lynham presented it

[@justhannah3960]

Aww bless, are all those mean girls ruining football for you? The guy got sacked because he sucked. It's not Alex Scot's fault.

[@patrickkelly9178]

Whilst she has some positives, sadly political correctness seems to have prevailed on her appointment here. When she gets given game shows as well, she is no Bob Monkhouse, and you know she is out of her depth.

[@jameskelly2559]

I remember that moment in front of the Kop against Arsenal. I was right in front of him. He was subbed off, and we all knew it was over. It was so sad. YNWA Mark, a Red Legend

[@mohsdef]

Lost his pace after the achilles tendon injury

[@jeffjohnson9842]

Mr Heath needs to do a bit of research before hand....To admit he didn't know Robert Maxwell and Dean Saunders was frankly embarrassing.

[@thechipman2473]

Great player and a proper gent, cheers Mark, a class act sir

[@davidpollard4051]

I'm no Liverpool or Lawrenson fan by any stretch but he's very refreshing to listen to and speaks candidly.

[@royhallam]

Great podcast Mark is a legend, I liked he answered your questions told his story’s. And people do forget it’s his opinion. Very honest and funny man. You didn’t ask many questions, I could listen to Mark all day long. Thank you

[@roywinstanley9402]

In many peoples opinion football has lost its excitement now due to sky's involvement

[@sickboyeddi]

A legend of a player and a man who talks sense, Him and Jocky were and always be the best CB partnership of all time at LFC. Thanks Lawro for everything,

[@darraghryan5599]

Really enjoyed this lads, mark should be on the telly much more than he is. LFC Legend ❤

[@WarmasAsunnedcat]

He was a superb player! United fan

[@Tyroneguy77]

Great guy and was great player too. Always like listening to Mark lawrenson.

[@BrigadierBumCheeks]

Never realised til now how much I've missed this legend ❤

[@braindonor8753]

Said nobody ever

[@bryonwebster9028]

Absolutely loved hearing the stories, Absolute Liverpool Legend, my only issue is Ben was too Young to know the names of the people Mark was speaking about. More Legends Please 👍👍👍👍

[@TheCelticfc69]

Very honest and enjoyable interview. Obviously he considers himself English and not Irish with the use of ‘we’ when referring to England.

[@splodge5714]

Well he is English 😊

[@leeturton9254]

Liverpool and Manchester are not England as far as I'm concerned...they would rather see their club's win the champions league than England win a world cup or euro's...not english piss off

[@allanneill3200]

The only grumble I have with this is to say it's not on for longer, brilliant watch 👍🏻

[@hoviswilliams1548]

This is pure class. Some of the stories Lawro tells make you laugh. Every Liverpool fan or every football fan for that matter should watch this. No agents in those days like they have today. It made me laugh when he was telling about Ron Atkinson on the phone to him to go to Man Utd, just as Liverpool were phoning. THIS IS WELL WORTH WATCHING. Respect 🫡

[@thebigcat499]

Being sacked and hated by the BBC . . . Badge of honour for Lawro 👍🎖

[@davido4425]

Blame OFCOM

[@garypring2658]

he is hated by the bbc the uk hat the bbc ripping us off when they show utter shite snd the royals never pay for one b4 they get a free one at 75 that is a disgrace hey dont pay tax dont even pay for bog roll tax payers pay for the royals wiping there arse or they have a slave /servent on crap money the bog roll cost more

[@nonnayoubuzinnes1669]

Watching Football Focus now is a joke, not surprised it's being axed. Quality and diversity don't often belong in the same sentence.

[@patrickbridgeman6776]

Mark was a great player and down to earth lad, Ireland and Liverpool legend

[@jackdominiak445]

Refreshing to hear a straight forward honest bloke. Great Player and a proper Man!

[@user-te1hi9rx7b]

define 'proper man'..

[@barryispuzzled]

I'm stunned the interviewer has never heard of Robert Maxwell! No doubt, though, Mark tells a good tale!

[@spongebobsquaretits]

Or Terry Venables or Dennis Bergkamp

[@user-md2bt8tt1n]

That is bad considering that he interviewing one of the greatest defenders from late 70s and 80s and who is regarded as a legend on and off the pitch. Dean Saunders, Robert Maxwell, just some of the names that drew a blank. Mark should be on LFC TV assessing games or presenting like former players have done.

[@TheMontyfire]

He’s was an incredible tackler ,his timing was impeccable

[@garylovattlovatt193]

Motd and football punditry is worse off without Mark. Great show Ben 😊😊

[@roncatton7101]

As an Arsenalnfan, i must say i have always liked listening to Mark from when he was on MOTD..he was always honest, made sense, and interesting. Get him back in some form on tv.

[@tikemyson5627]

No one cares who you support

[@mqb5151]

Robert Maxwell and his daughter, Geoffrey Epsiten!!! Come on dude wake the ****up

[@roncatton7101]

@@tikemyson5627 Oh! Do shut up..

[@TtableWhey]

He's not woke.@@mqb5151

[@SpireUtd]

Even Lawro's occasional gaffs were excusable

[@badhamian]

Great interview - what a life in football Mark has had - says it how he experienced it - hope he writes an up to date autobiography would be a great read

[@davidsmith6355]

Man U fan here... Mark you are a total legend, love listening to you and you were an absolutely awesome player. We are conditioned to hate the rivals but I always loved you - and Hansen too but don't tell him I said that 🙂

[@Yoruba-Kingdoms]

I am a Liverpool fan and fully appreciate your sportsmanship. City may be winning but will never have the history and pedigree of Manchester United. You guys will come again ❤

[@davidsmith6355]

@@Yoruba-Kingdoms Nice one - that is a great comment from you. The history both clubs have is great and despite the rivalry, I think the clubs and many of the fans respect that - hope so anyway. Also hope you win the league this year 🙂

[@bobbymcdonald4365]

Really enjoyed that. He never took any prisoners, and it is is great to hear he hasn't changed. I subbed on the strength of this interview. Thanks...

[@warwickwebster5447]

Legend, not just as a graceful and assured player but a great co commentator. Always loved it when he called out the prima donnas and cheats. Grounded and witty. Keegan said that he knew it was time to retire when he passed Lawrenson and thought he had left him for dead and then as he drew back his foot to pull the trigger on goal this foot came from behind and stole the ball. Lawro - your career finished all too early. Could listen to you chat for hours. Come back and tell some of those untellable tales!

[@dlamiss]

Yes indeed ive got Keegans autobiography this is mentioned in great detail....and maybe he was too hard on himself as back in the day Lawrenson was lightening but Keegan had such high standards, must have been difficult for KK to come to terms with his declining powers

[@frasersutherland1834]

The thing is that viewers are leaving terrestrial TV in droves and have been for years. It's over for the BBC. Mark was a truly great defender and equally great pundit. Much missed.

[@garypring2658]

if the bbc want a licence fee make it p.p.v i dont watch if i want i cant my tv has packed in and guess what i am notpaying for a tv licence terrestrial TV is like really cheap bog roll it the cheap when you blow your nose you blow a hole in the tissue whorse when you whipe your arse you finger go through it end up with shitty fingers

[@jonsheard8749]

Great chat. I didn’t initially rate ML (probs cos followed Thommo) but what a fab player he turned out to be. Love his stories, loved his punditry & commentary…..Much prefer ML on match days to some of what we have now. Cheers from a Leeds fan.

[@marctailor5219]

Im an Evertinion and this feller hepled break my heart but, 'I love him," what a great feller,. so true-full he needs to be back in football commentary now.

[@MansoorIrshad-hb4wz]

Great podcast Ben! Keep up the great work, love these players from back in the day.

[@duncangittins6060]

How can he not know who Robert Maxwell is

[@zorbathegeek]

Totally. How can an interviewer have a proper conversation, and ask the right questions, when he hasn't got a clue?

[@shazanali692]

First rule of interviews. Always agree with the person you are interviewing, do you know Maxwell, yes

[@1972dsrai]

He was probably still in nappies when he “drowned”.

[@mvwmark8955]

@@1972dsraimost of us weren’t born when Hitler was marching around Europe, or when JFK was assassinated, or even when the moon landings happened……… yet we know about them. 🤷‍♂️ What has the interviewer possibly being in nappies when Maxwell died got to do with it? So what? He should know about Robert Maxwell. More so after all the Epstein stuff.

[@MARKETMAN6789]

He's only a young man it's years ago when Robert Maxwell died , I bet there's not many people of his age who know who he was Most will know who his daughter was

[@anonrecoup]

First one I've decided to watch in full, Lawrenson is honest and quite down to earth. The guests are effectively left to tell their stories and chat away. However Lawrenson's story is worth it.

[@johndownes319]

Great interview. One of the Best.

[@AshleySmith-zz6nx]

Such a great interview, loved watching this one. All the best mark lawreson

[@Bobbibouchersmumwasright]

19:00 .. my mind got thinking why the final comment was seen to be ok… I worked out that men and handbags fitted their future vision…

[@avtarkalsi2853]

Great interview. Always like M.L, great footballer

[@dr.zacking2097]

So good, thanks, excellent interview, character, legend and really entertaining

[@stevenrichardson7882]

A brilliant down to earth interview, top man👍

[@vallanceellis7569]

Great interview Mark.Interesting factual and funny.You were a decent player also.

[@anneliamohara2842]

Living in the States now remember you playing for Ireland , Mark you’re sound man !

[@johncorbett1130]

Mark is brilliant, just strolls through a game with his humorous little comments and you feel like he's just sat next to you on the sofa watching the game. The best of all them without even trying, natural and too good for the BBC

[@colinmcnally5931]

I really enjoyed this interview!! Mark is great. A legend!

[@JohnConboy1]

Always liked Lawro co- commentating. He'd slip in a few funnys at the right time.. off the cuff stuff not like a lot of today's coms that seem over sanitized, rehearsed and stat heavy. Anyway, great interview. Well done both of you 👏

[@user-md2bt8tt1n]

I wish he done midweek European games on Radio 5 instead of likes of Dion Dublin and Matthew Upson. So bad.

[@christophercolver2843]

Brilliant interview always like Mark when he was on the TV used to make me laugh with the stuff he'd come out with shame the BBC didn't see it the same their and our loss

[@dannymc300]

Great pod lifelong Liverpool supporter, love the old stories. Didn't realise lawro was so funny, great one liner's

[@andrewtaylor4627]

The best commentator by a mile. Funny but highly intelligent and knew the game inside out. Also highly underated as a player. Legend.

[@pentz1]

but people didn't like him, we all remember how no one liked his commentary...nothing to do with him being white.

[@andrewtaylor4627]

He was the only commentator who really understood the game. He was calling people out for diving and feigning injury long before it got as bad as it is today. People didn't get his humour and mild sarcasm but then again like Mark I'm from Preston.

[@neillynch_ecocidologist]

Underrated as a player? I was always of the opinion his partnership with Hansen was viewed as best of all time (at least to that point). Can you get higher praise? It's sad he's throwing the word 'woke' around in a _negative_ sense (like right wing idiots / scum do). Woke means you understand how people are oppressed. Sure, phonies might claim oppression but there are so many people genuinely being discriminated against: women, POC, atheists(!), the unemployed, environmentalists, homosexuals and the disabled. Basically, whoever billionaire media moguls tell their idiot subscribers to hate. Woke is the way to be. Capitalists are killing the planet lest we forget.

[@howwwwwyyyyy]

I wouldn't say underated, ask Keegan why he gave up football, people remember Lawro as a defender (and the tackles he made were a work of art)but he was good enough to play in midfield for us for a while,we wanted this player for years, finally paying nearer a million and trading Jimmy Case in the deal,he was world class.

[@imnottellingyoumyname3050]

Revisionism. Lawro was not a good pundit.

[@imochonai5723]

Does the interviewer even know that Lawro played for Ireland?

[@murpho999]

Not a clue. How can he not ask him anything about that? Legendary player for Ireland.

[@monrush]

100% Irish as well.......

[@attracta2122]

The podcaster sadly isn't knowledgeable..

[@SpireUtd]

Gen z ...the future!

[@MistaMoses]

Ben Heath, you need to redo this interview and question Mark about the Maxwells properly lol

[@alanoliver379]

Really enjoyed listening to this, Interviewer is a bit of a Whelk but you can't buy experience! Lifelong LFC fan & ML was a huge part of the Dominant Era. ❤

[@johnwalker4337]

Top player and would always figure in my all time LFC starting eleven, in a back three. With his pace and tackling he covered the mistakes of others.

[@DavidSmith-fs5qj]

VVD, Hansen and Lawro.

[@SamSung-uu6vx]

I genuinely don't understand how he doesn't know who Robert Maxwell was or even Dean Saunders. I'm actually not convinced he knows who Ghislaine Maxwell is either ... his eyes looked rather glazed. Weird lack of knowledge.

[@nebod1556]

Astonishing lack of knowledge ...this interviewer is pretty dumb...Does he know who is Brian Epstein? Unbelievable...

[@basylpeterjones]

It's surprising how many people don't know who Robert Maxwell is. No one thinks of his name if it comes up in a TV quiz.

[@mrchickflick4444]

I’ve never paid for tv licence and won’t even when i was arrested and put in a cell over it! Imagine being put on a cell over not paying for a service you don’t use and don’t have a choice whether you want it or not

[@ianmorrison554]

One of the best interviews I've watched. Fascinating.

[@JHBBASS]

Would love to see Mark on rotation on the Neville and Carragher show on CBS sports

[@WiMac63]

Great podcast. Remember Marks goal, in the derby at Goodison. Great player..

[@thecraftyguy6358]

He's to bl**dy honest for the BBC and the like. Like his patter and a good footballer.

[@unusg1]

Was good with Hansen but it felt like he was phoning it in thereafter and clearly not bothered. Sadly we all get moved irrespective of whether it is fair or not. Seems to be channeling his annoyance by blaming everyone at the Beeb and falling into the tired old stereotype.

[@hughmcneillie1032]

1:29:08. First time I've watched this channel. Not sure how you top Lawro. Always enjoyed his punditry and sense of humour. One of the ex players who managed to talk sense and also make you laugh. Thank you.

[@user-pc9du2hv4k]

As a defender, i thought he was even better than Alan Hansen. Thats how good he was.

[@delby66]

They were just as good as each other. Where Alan Hansen was better was how calm and collected he was, but Mark and Alan were in a class by themselves back in the day.

[@howwwwwyyyyy]

What a pair they were, I never saw anyone tackle like Mark Lawrenson, he was as good as Hansen.

[@Donatello-br4fd]

​@@delby66 like robbo and trent

[@simonpage5870]

​@@howwwwwyyyyyHansen..Lawro and Gillespie all quality.

[@ste2442]

Difference is , Jockey Hanson was that good he didn’t have to slide tackle

[@derekjones2835]

United fan and I like Lawro. Grew up watching him, Hansen and Lineker. Shame woke got him.

[@user-vu8pk3eu6q]

Good player was mark and I am Everton fan plus when my kids were playing at Butlin tournament he was always their

[@user-nz3mv6yv6k]

Legend. Absolute legend for Liverpool - just look at what he won!

[@paulmurray750]

Was on The Kop in 87 when Lawro pulled up with that injury, everyone knew he was finished. Sad day. YNWA.

[@benphilips9918]

They were never quite the same at the back after Mark limped off. And when Hansen retired LFC went thirty years without a league title. Hopefully it's the start of another 30 years of glory.

[@paulmurray750]

@@benphilips9918 Fully agree, very underrated, his speed and tackling were phenomenal.

[@graham2sexy955]

Martin Hayes if I remember

[@michaelfeeney8437]

Really miss Lawro & Hansen on MOTD. Has never been the same since.

[@enlightenedone7141]

Agreed!!

[@peterbraidwood-ni6di]

Couple of his best lines were on Football Focus when he was asked if Harry Redknapp would join Southampton after Portsmouth and Lawro said the bookies say he is. Also said Harry changes his Club more than his underpants 😂

[@MarkStewart001]

A cracking interview covering so many topics.

[@elmshouse8566]

A supposed journalist not knowing who Robert Maxwell was? Apart from it being embarrassing, it's just goes to show the level of these youtube interviewers.

[@HI4]

Emile Heskey playing under Jurgen Klopp? The guy keft Liverpool in 2004

[@properjob79]

that's his age showing it's self..100% meant Benteke

[@pbplauralfilms]

"can't believe the BBC sacked me!" Goes on to confuse black men who played for the same club 10 years apart. The BBC has got A LOT of shit going on and going wrong but Lawro could do with looking at himself for once.

[@jasbindersidhu]

So what he got 2 names mixed up. You sensitive soul.

[@properjob79]

@@pbplauralfilms i smell a social justice warrior ..bet you hate white males with a passion

[@MrRai101]

@@jasbindersidhu because of the irony. Bemoans he got sacked for being an old white man, then can't even remember the correct name of the black person he's speaking about.

[@eclpc14]

So authentic .... legend of a person and was described as a "Rolls Royce" as a player by my Dad... is right Mark don't look back with the BBC

[@peterveal2263]

Great interview, factual and funny!

[@chrismanners9091]

You were 65 and you had to retire? That doesn't sound too unfair. I can remember Mark being on TV in the mid 90s. He'd have only been mid-late 30s. If nobody else had retired until they were 70, he'd have never got on. We'd have had England World Cup winners doing the punditry till about 2010. It'll never cease to amaze me that so many people in broadcasting don't get this.

[@mdg1867]

Great point

[@TheDvdral]

And yet Garth Crooks remains.

[@mdg1867]

Not seen him on anything for ages, didn't realise he was still working. He always seemed enthusiastic, unlike Lawro who could make the best game ever seem like a funeral.@@TheDvdral

[@rorrt]

I agree.. And I know it's ITV and Sky. And not the BBC. But Souness is 70 and is still regularly on. I rate Lawro and Souno about the same.. Same old tired and boring talking points. For him here to blame him not being on because he's white is embarrassing though.. Name one black or female pundit, and I can name two white men. Maybe he wasn't as good as he thinks.

[@chrismanners9091]

​@@rorrt 70 is old enough, I think. Jimmy Hill wasn't always the most self-aware, but he quit gracefully at that age.And he was a way more important person in football than Lawrenson and Souness. Their mate Hansen knew when to quit.

[@ChrisJones-bp7ij]

The BBC is awful and the tv licence should be scrapped. People have to pay for a service they don't watch and don't want to watch.

[@daviddoink872]

Great interview, so many stories

[@neildoherty327]

Really enjoyed this one ! Lawro is a legend

[@alby4848]

Watched Mark on many occasions at my home club Brighton. Fantastic player and not surprised he went on to better things. BBC were mental to sack him. Top man, honest and funny a very rare quality in today's world. Ben keep up the interviews, very enjoyable. More to come hopefully 😊

[@djm9937]

A top bloke, legend. Great video :)

[@adrianellis6902]

Super interview thanks very much

[@user-ru2bc6vu4p]

I agree with everything mark says ps old pundits full of knowledge young pundits know sod all

[@harryscratch212]

I've just come across your channel my first thought was "who the heck is Ben Heath?" never having heard of you before but I quickly warmed to your delivery and easy going, 'chatty' and eloquent interviewing style. You could easily give the so-called pros at BBC and Sky a run for their money. Lawro is always going to give good value but you do need to brush up on your footy history if you don't mind me saying, there were a couple of moments which exposed you but that aside I've now subscribed and look forward to more entertaining chats with legends like Lawro.

[@enlightenedone7141]

He needs to maintain eye contact too, very off putting lookin at his fucking tablet all time!!!

[@ultimatesoccershow]

TOP DRAW INTERVIEW!!!!!!!!!! Mark is right on so many levels, its very refreshing to hear someone with great game intelligenece, wit and knowledge speaking the TRUTH!!!!! BBC are REPUGNANT!

[@monkeybone39]

Great interview, very enjoyable.

[@alistairsmith5389]

Someone tell me why Lineker, a bloke also in his 60s, is still on the bbc spouting garbage every weekend!?

[@anonrecoup]

Ian Wright is 60 now

[@phil19852010]

Great insight. Engaging & well funny. Mark is far, FAR more interesting than the 'Tick Box Tommys' in todays world.

[@miguelantonio4999]

Great interview. Love Lawro. Emile Heskey - he meant Christian Benteke who went to Crystal Palace. But I’ve thoroughly enjoyed this interview. Love Lawro. Don’t love Woke.

[@patrickbridgeman6776]

Great interview Mark was a excellent player for ireland we were lucky to have him, Liverpool legend as well.

[@decdeckers]

I like Lawro, I remember watching Slovakia vs New Zealand one afternoon during the 2010 World Cup and he said during the commentary in his usual comedic tone, 'the kids won't be rushing home for this one'. I wonder who he meant when he said Heskey, because it definitely wasn't Emile Heskey at Liverpool with Klopp 😂

[@calgon5689]

Probably Sturridge, makes sense with the Injury issue Klopp had with him saying the injury is in his head.

[@charlesw9555]

Probably Benteke. Big fella up top.

[@Sh1tSandwich]

Benteke I imagine. Bit problematic like

[@crispy_T]

His memory / recall is going a bit, innit?

[@charliearnold4706]

Mark Lawrenson was great on MOTD, but changes are always needed, to try and keep the viewers interested. Gary Linaker will move on, in the next couple of years. Alan Hansen done the right thing and retired. Media people have a sell by date, thats for sure.

[@lescorlett4133]

Doesn't mean it needs to turn into Woke shit though does it?

[@Wayne-mp7pk]

Rubbish .they don't fit the yes boy agenda.

[@basylpeterjones]

The TV companies gave up on standards some time ago, so people eventually stopped noticing and talking about it. Then the George Floyd effect resulted in the policy of flooding TV studios with black presenters and guests, - so football punditry is dead now.