Phil Jackson: On Shaq and Kobe (from conversation with John Salley at Live Talks Los Angeles)

Clip is from an hour plus talk with Phil Jackson in conversation with John Salley at Live Talks Los Angeles, June 12, 2013, discussing Jackson's book, 'Eleven Rings." Full video available in this channel.
For more information on Live Talks Los Angeles, visit: www.livetalksla.org

[@masongilbertson1652]

I could listen to Phil talk basketball for hours. What an absolute legend.

[@Stevesautopartsify]

I can't believe I'd rather reminisce about the old NBA then watch the current NBA!

[@PakRT48]

I can. I do it. 80s 90s NBA is the best.

[@AmericanPaisa99]

Because today’s NBA is soft and played by a bunch of feminine boys. 😂 Old School NBA was played by men. Where a flagrant 2 of today was a simple foul of yesteryear.

[@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212]

I'd rather reminisce about the old NFL as well. Back when you could actually hit the QB.

[@complexitysimple1769]

"Bending their will and bending their egos to make it happen." -Phil J. This quote is the perfect quote for anyone having any type of relationship problems. A wise man Phil is.

[@EllinikoKanali]

Imaging having coached and played with the best players in the game.

[@One.Zero.One101]

John Salley and Phil Jackson have great comedic timing. They weren't overlapping each other, they allowed some pause for audience laughter before they went for the punchline.

[@pimentelarcena]

Phil Jackson Was True A Professional and Better Coach of Kobe And MJ ❤❤❤❤

[@lucyaklar6345]

"I don't get 5 championships here without him" -☆ Kobe's comment about Michael Jordan 🐐 in the Last Dance Documentary

[@hashmoncrief6965]

Michael Jordan wasn't even Kobe's favorite player man Kobe was just being nice in the Last Dance, Kobe did not even care for Michael Jordan when he was growing up his favorite player was Jalen Rose, then his favorite basketball team was the Lakers and then Magic Johnson was his favorite player, there's a video where you can go find Kobe breaking down signature signature moves of all greats go watch that and see what he says about Jordan way before the last dance, and Kobe already won rings then, Jordan fans holding onto something that's not even that true

[@immanuelcunt7296]

@@hashmoncrief6965 Lol that's a straight up lie. Kobe himself said that he learned much of his game from Jordan, especially once he got in the league and met Jordan and became friends. Kobe learned from all the greats, but one of the main ones, if not the main one, was Jordan.

[@richprokop5155]

Exactly... Just listen to GOAT MJ at Kobe's memorial in 2020...

[@covercurtis]

Phil was a true professional

[@oteliogarcia1562]

So, Jerry West left the Lakers after the 2000 championship, Kobe calls him during the 2nd season of the 3-peat, asking how he and Baylor managed to both score a lot during their playing days, and not only does West give Kobe counsel, but he also calls Jackson. Even though he was no longer connected with the team. Always a Laker.

[@pardeepshori3355]

Jerry West is Executive level of mindset yet he has player perspective. Plus it doesn’t hurt to have history of formulating Showtime of the 80s and recruiting those players.

[@rampantcolt]

“At least he was wearing rubbers” 😂😂😂

[@tylerhall9412]

This is awesome

[@highlanderc]

Papa'h... los Piratas de Quebradillas! Ojala hubiese estado vivo en esa epoca.

[@brycecall1819]

God is good!

[@reggiecarmichael4108]

all the time

[@Fanthomas1742]

and all the time

[@meg-k-waldren]

Salley: Phil talk to us about the Sacramento series. Phil: ahem...what about it?

[@Cultured_Barbarian]

Lakers should have hired him back under his terms instead of going with Mike D'Antoni. Horrible choice.

[@hnn8759]

for sure

[@claudiorabsten7179]

man after helping out the knicks then bulls then lakers he should be taken care of by miami heat

[@Brooklyn11236]

eduar ed wtf are you talking about? Wade did great that finals. Lebron is the one who average 18 points shooting under 50% from the field average less than the Mavs Jason terry

[@claudiorabsten7179]

more like the executive side alongside pat riley andy alonzo & shane battier not as a head coach now

[@roboninja3194]

@eduar ed Lebron got torched in those 2011 Finals by Jason Terry. Lebron played terrible. This is FACT. Every non casual fan knows this. Especially those of us that actually watched that series. You sound like a clown telling someone to get on your level and learn the game. Lebron got smoked by a role player and that was the #1 reason the Heat lost that series.

[@InvestBetter.]

Kobe was the ultimate Sigma male Dominant, introverted, hard-working, disciplined, determined, goal-oriented

[@killacali909]

Great fuckin story

[@ExclusiveLM]

That explains the rumor I heard that Shaq always went shopping naked at Costco.

[@thejerseycomic4723]

Lookin at the thumbnail like “why is Phil talkin to a comedian bout this tho?”....you know which comedian😂

[@manjot06]

jb smoove ? lol

[@thejerseycomic4723]

Manjot Mann exactly, lol I didnt google mans name

[@jamalabdelbaset6635]

3:55- LOL!! Shaq hated Jim Gray! Kobe-for whatever reason- chose Jim Gray to be his Ahmad Rashad. Smh.

[@777DonMakaveli777]

For whatever reason? Lol Jim Gray is one of the greats. A reason why Mike Tyson loves him

[@jamalabdelbaset6635]

@@777DonMakaveli777 We can agree to disagree on that one. I was always a fan of Ahmad. Jim asked some of the dumbest questions at times. Loved the NBA on NBC growing up, but couldn’t stand Jim Gray and Peter Vescey.

[@777DonMakaveli777]

@@jamalabdelbaset6635 you’re the only one that thinks that

[@jamalabdelbaset6635]

@@777DonMakaveli777 ...And that’s fine with me, my man!

[@jamalabdelbaset6635]

@@777DonMakaveli777 ...And that’s fine with me, my man!

[@paletangitau1247]

The Zen Master best coach in NBA history... Triangle Offense

[@Cultured_Barbarian]

Phil doesn't seem to like childish behavior

[@RobbDepp]

LEGEND

[@ski8615]

Hate when he wrote that book but love phill best coach ever laker nation all day 🇬🇧

[@tango400016]

This obsession with being a scoring leader spoils the game.

[@glenncombs6958]

Who was better ? Wilt or Shaq ? NO COMPARISON. Wilt was a better scorer, a better rebounder and a better defender. And Shaq had a better supporting cast than Wilt. Shaq would have had ZERO rings if he had to go up against Wilt"s teams or Russell's Celtics.

[@dhornjr1]

And Wilt wasn't lazy. Shaq was famously lazy. That was the main reason why Kobe was pissed at him.

[@MrLiancourt100]

MJ stopped playing because Bulls manager wanted Phil out and years after he coached the closest goat in the game history.

[@splashnskillz37]

The GOAT tbh

[@ski8615]

🔺

[@Papadopollus]

Imagine coach a naked Shaq and still need be serious

[@greatest515]

Phil held Kobe back

[@johnnysecular]

Kobe held Kobe back. When Phil took over the Lakers Kobe was inconsistent, and despite the fact that he had a dominant centre he played triangle offence, which benefits Kobe scoring. If it weren’t for Phil Jackson Kobe woulda been more affected by injury. Kobe needed to chill one notch. When you look at Jordan at his most competitive moments, he smirked. Kobe was thinking too much about scoring all the time. Phil Jackson tactics and coaching and the minutes he gave him were good for Kobe. Kobe Bryant could’ve scored more in his earlier years if he just calmed down a bit. If he passed instead of taking the hard shot with ten seconds left on the clock, maybe the ball comes back to him and he scores an easy jumpshot. Think, how many times did young Kobe shoot difficult shots when it wasn’t necessary. He was obsessed with scoring, and early in his career it didnt do him a lot of favour.

[@yeahman2312]

As phil said: When kobe decided to play ball in his role as second to shaq, they were unstoppable. Mind you kobe was the second best player in the league behind shaq in their three peat era. Just absolute talent in both positions… Kobe just needed to prove to himself it wasnt all shaq and so it all played out like it did

[@gilbertbrown4183]

@@johnnysecular Facts 💯. These Kobe bandwagon fan boys will call you a hater for stating accurate information.

[@johnnysecular]

@@gilbertbrown4183 i’m just constantly surprised that to this day Kobe fans make excuses for him instead of just celebrate his clear accomplishments. like, Phil held Kobe back. Or Kobe coulda won more rings if. Or Kobe shoulda been MVP that year but... Chill out man.

[@Civsuccess2]

For 3 championships, it was worth it. Kobe could have averaged 30 per game if he was given Jordan's # of attempts.

[@dr.hugostrange9719]

Tbh Jackson needed to coach better in those situations, Shaq was literally the reigning MVP of the regular season and the finals and he had to deal with a brat who now wanted to be main focus. Imagine if after winning in '91 Jordan had Pippen fighting for the limelight the next year. It's insanity. I still remember it well, and thinking at the time wtf is wrong with Kobe? In case no one remembers the team struggled all season cause of this, but with eight games to go in the season Kobe got hurt and the Lakers went on a tear. Once the playoffs started it was obvious to Kobe that the team needed to play through Shaq and they went 23-1 in that span including 15-1 in the playoffs.

[@RealMikeMiller13]

Imagine speaking down on the dead

[@rkayn24]

uhh firstly it was never that Kobe wanted the limelight. That's your misconception, he just didn't wanted to be held back because of shaq cause he was clearly working harder in practice and everybody knew that. Shaq had horrible habits of getting fat and out of shape after winning the championship where he literally missed games at the beginning of the season where Kobe was always ready. Kobe literally went on a streak of 9 40 point games in a row and Phil literally told kobe to dial it back because shaq was coming back to the lineup again. And Kobe wanted to win so he did just that. He listens to orders even if he doesn't like them. And in the playoffs there are many times where the offense went through Kobe.. series against San Antonio and game 7 of the 2000 WCF. (keep in mind kobe wasn't even in his prime despite the great performances).

[@purplesky4157]

Because he knew what Kobe was. Phil doesn’t win all those championships without realizing the potential of his players. He was jordans coached. You don’t think when he saw Kobe he had flashbacks to jordan? He knew Kobe was the future. Also Phil isn’t the type of coach to put down their players he encourages them and gives them a shot to prove themselves. Which ended up with Kobe wining 5 championships and going to 7 finals. Not too bad huh

[@LeBronJames-StatPadderMan]

I love how your biased preconceived views hinder your memories about that Lakers squad. Shaq ain't winning crap without Kobe and vice versa. You want every player to just take it and not reach their potential? Everyone knew Kobe was the next big thing for the league. Why would Kobe not want the limelight? You don't settle for 2nd place when you are confident that you are the #1 guy. Did you just compare Kobe to Pippen? LMAOOO

[@johnmerchan1672]

Imagine saying that “Jackson needed to coach better” smh

[@tomgardner8825]

kobe could do almost everything on the court. shaq was simply a bruiser had no moves and was lazy.

[@armondmeilleur7563]

Your an idiot

[@heavi-armed-infadel]

The game vs. Portland wasn't some defensive awakening in the 4th quarter, refs just stopped calling fouls on the Lakers. Blazers got mugged on the offensive end on practically every possession. Was ridiculous.

[@chaskell7316]

Sounds like a blazers fan

[@victorabrams637]

lol. sure it was.

[@Rgwaduri88]

I love how he doesn’t mention how Shaq gained all this weight in those summers and fell out of conditioning and would not get surgeries in the summer but instead when it was the season. This guy is a Kobe hater through and through

[@nictartaglino5622]

Lmao you filthy casual. Phil and Kobe had a great relationship. Kobe wanted Phil or Jerry to walk him out to his hof speech

[@greatest515]

@@nictartaglino5622 you’re young. Phil hated Kobe until he was out of a job and in 2005

[@johancorrales6537]

Lifelong Kobe fan but in his early years he didn’t pass. Lol

[@ericthuku9731]

Kobe shot 1000 jump shots daily? and yesterday in a simple pickup game, I scored 15 and started shrugging my shoulders, talking about, "I don know whas happening?"

[@truecolors6469]

Give me Prime Shaq over Wilt any day of the Week. He Brought the Fire , Energy and Diesel. Man demanded a Double Team every Night. Wilt was Soft

[@normalguycap]

Shaq a baby. Phil had to tell Kobe to end his 40 pt 9 game streak because Shaq was whining he wasn't getting enough attention. Shaq unprofessional.

[@tomgardner8825]

i have no idea how you came to this conclusion. only shaq would agree with this or maybe not.