Living with the Honda CBR600RR | Does it live up to its legacy? | MCN long-term test

[@motorcyclenewsdotcom]

Thanks everyone for the nice comments, I'm glad you've enjoyed the video. To update you all on the fuel gauge, I've run the bike onto the fuel light multiple times since the incident and had no further issues. For future updates on the CBR, visit www.motorcyclenews.com/mcn-fleet/honda-cbr600rr/ Ride safe! Dan, MCN.

[@christiangrendel9893]

He loves how the bike makes him feel... alive. That was (for me) the most important comment. Isn't that why we ride?

[@Ronanastra]

I had a 2003 model in 2012 and loved it. I was below 25 and this bike would have been in the magazines when I was in my teens. Owning a bike you dreamed of as a teen is a wonderful experience.

[@goldfish8196]

These two are just incredible. Excellent journalism. Thank you MCN

[@lefcha]

The "INFO 2" display has "Tripmeter A fuel consumption [TRIP A CONS.]" which is described in page 35 of the Owner's Manual. If you fill up the tank (ie. 18.0 L), and reset either this "TRIP A CONS." or the "TRIP A" meter as described in page 30, then you can see exactly how much fuel has been burned since the reset with decimal precision. When there are 4.0 L remaining (which should happen after the consumption of 14.0 L from the full tank), the low fuel indicator lights up and the "Available riding distance [RANGE]" is automatically indicated in the "INFO 2" display. During this reserve fuel mode, you can also see the "Amount of remaining fuel [REMAIN]", again in the "INFO 2" display.

[@simonlewis01]

Good info but let’s be real, you wouldn’t have to type two paragraphs if they simply provided a proper fuel gauge. If given the option, 99.9% of regular people would say they want one. It’s just that basic.

[@IMAA-299lives]

This is exactly what I do on my 2018 CBR1000RR, I have 16.4L tank so the light comes on at roughly 12.4L every single time.

[@lefcha]

@@simonlewis01 Surely, there's no denying a fuel gauge is a lot more convenient, and also there's no need to remember to reset anything. But the fuel consumption must be based on the fuel injection, which could explain why it's more accurate than a fuel gauge, that uses a fuel level sensor inside the fuel tank. In my experience with bikes with a fuel gauge, all segments are showing for quite a lot of distance, and then after the first segment goes off, the rest continue quite fast. So to be safe, I routinely reset a trip meter on fill-ups, to have an idea of the distance covered.

[@lefcha]

@@IMAA-299lives I think the 2024 Fireblade also doesn't have a fuel gauge, and in general that the Fireblades never had; I suspect that it's by design. Now if I'm not mistaken the latest CBR600RR has the same TFT display/instruments as the 2017 CBR1000RR (that seems to be derived from the RC213V-S), which could explain why it lost its fuel gauge...

[@berttompkins9096]

When I was 18 the bank turned me down on a loan for a 1978 RD 400. In 50 years of bikes I've finally got my 400. It's a ZX4 RR 40th ano. It's got the gas guage AND the distance /range meter. The Curry Honda 600 would have been my second choice but there's a lot to be desired by owning small bore bikes and firearms. You can carry MORE AMMO!!!

[@pjb5757]

I'm in NZ, I've got a 2005 Honda CBR600RR and I'm on it everyday. It's a great bike, always puts a smile on your face when you give it some revs.

[@RideSafeNSmart]

Im really glad you focused on alot of the real world bits with this... i only have one bike and so occasionally it needs to be practical(ish) but my heart really wants something like this! Your review has reminded me of when i had a 1275cc mini cooper early 2002 and everybody used to say how do you cope with this as a car... the answer is when you love something its suprising how much you forgive its flaws. Do you think you could go around Wales on this and look back with a smile at the end of a longer day riding?

[@dougiequick1]

I can somewhat relate as my daily driver car is a manual shift ND1 Miata which I mean is pretty impractical is many ways particularly in lack of cargo and people capacity not to mention the diminuitive little 154hp 2 litter motor.....but it is just so light so willing and fun! And THAT is what year after year over rides the negatives I mean I just love the little thing even if it is a pain to climb in out of in the garage wedged up to the wall with a garage cramped with the Miata an SUV and two medium large motorcycles (an MT-10 and my T9gt)....all the negatives just melt away flying through the first set of curves which btw I LIVE in the mountains so EVERY which I Ihead is twisty turning asphalt! BTW My annual tire budget is rather outrageous for someone not even racing lol....together with the impracticalities its all just the cost of LOVING the road!

[@dorayaki5494]

Bro talks as if that bike is his life. I love it. A true rider! I own a 2003 model and it's the love of my life :D

[@GCTO239]

Such a fantastic bike! It is so freaking wonderful that Honda brought this precious back in such a proper fashion. Who expected that? 🎉❤ Japanese 4-cylinder screamers are cultural heritage. Part of my motorbike socialisation.

[@SteveMuir]

I rode the old CBR 600 F4i and they had the power delivery he wants. I felt it bulled harder than my VFR down around 3000. Another great video. Thanks

[@BarkTheAlliedGiant]

When I started riding, no bikes had fuel gages. My pal, good buddy and riding mentor taught me that the first thing we did with a new bike was set the trip meter to zero and note when the bike went onto reserve. Then, every fill, you reset the trip meter. Getting close to the reserve distance? Fill up. Easy. I still do this practice on my cars. Now, if there is no trip meter, then you've got an actual concern.

[@ThePedroDB]

Exactly this... 👍 As another comment mentions, fuel gauges don't tend to read linearly anyway and using the Trip provides a dependable back-up

[@dlj1285]

Guys, bravo. Honestly, this was one of the most professional and informative videos on a motorcycle I’ve come across. I really enjoyed this, and it was helpful. Great job.

[@pjakpjak7000]

Contrary to what people keep saying, it wasn't comfort or aggressive character that killed sports bikes. Insurance did. You won't even get a quote for one if you're below 40. And even then; it's criminally expensive.

[@motorcycle-man]

That's a very local perspective on that.

[@M1dnightJunkie]

Funny I paid 360 AUD for my cbr600rr comprehensive insurance, my mt03 costs almost 500 AUD for comprehensive

[@johnpringle6583]

It’s expensive but you can get quotes, if you’re under 30.

[@JW-zj1lv]

24M full coverage in California is almost 4000$, currently running liability only for 399$ for a 12 month premium

[@ewganhoff]

​​@@JW-zj1lv America's insurance prices are un believable. A lot of you are paying the same per month as we in the UK pay per year. Crazy.

[@dherdeeast5341]

Thank you for this fantastic overview and production. Literally have a stack of cash waiting for this to come to USA! Fingers crossed

[@EliasTheHunter]

Someday, I sure hope!

[@MultiVacGaming]

Had a 2005 and miss it like hell, great bike through and through, so much soul.

[@paulcraddock2196]

Thank you for such a fantastic review.I have had mine since August and can agree every time I see the bike I just love the lines.The exhaust note is fab and ever time I ride it whether as commuting or for pleasure I just cannot stop smiling.The quality of finish is just amazing as well and just love it totally.

[@phishinglikeaboss]

I bought a 2017 cbr 600rr off the lot in 17 , been riding it every day since rain or shine , love this bike so much it just does exatly what you want , its like an extention of your body

[@PabloConcrete]

Dan and Michael! What a great summary of the long term test. Really enjoyed the real life pros and cons. Keep it up! Thank you! PS. There are 2024 400miles examples on AT for £9k!!!

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Call me old fashioned at 50. However, what happened to hitting the mileage button to zero it after filling the tank and knowing what it’s capable for range. Have people forgotten how to count? Cruise control? Completely agree.

[@ThermicLight]

Rather silly when the bike is packed with electronics but a fuel guage is too hard?

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@ Being a Honda race rep, my question is what on the gauge cluster for this Supersports machine would you sacrifice to have a fuel gauge? Or should I be asking if you actually know what it has available to display?

[@triedproven9908]

Only problem is you have to remember how you rode it. There is a variable 100 miles on this bike.

[@ThermicLight]

@@marcusgeorge1825 - Why does there have to be a sacrifice? Besides I've seen pictures of the display showing the bike stand status. Pretty sure a fuel gauge is going to be much more important to know than whether the stand is up or down.

[@sanxi34]

@@marcusgeorge1825 Personally, once a bike has a TFT screen (even an LCD screen but we'll cut some slack to those limitations) with multiple pages, one needs to at least have a fuel gauge or a range counter. For example, a couple of weeks ago I went on to test ride an MV F3RR. Didn't have a fuel gauge, but it had four massive readings for trip counters, an IMU / g-force readout, all in huge font with a crap ton of space. Is really a graph bar that complicated?... And you ask the question what would you sacrifice? How about the trip time? Or instead of having the side-to-side and the front-to-back G-meter be two separate graphs, make it a circle one?... Or add a fuel gauge that is literally 30 pixels tall. It doesn't even have to be that big. But with a TFT screen with multiple pages, there is no excuse

[@wictorqqq]

Father and 19yo son

[@mwng5186]

Great vid, thanks fellas, when I heard it was being re-launced I was about to put a deposit down but then came across a mint 2015 675r daytona and bought that instead. | love the smoothness of these but its nice to have a bit of snap crackle and pop.

[@grahamx8623]

Nice review and well done to Honda for bringing it back to the UK. So much better that the current twin cylinder wheezers dressed in a posh frock. Tail unit and under seat exhaust look massive, strange to think this was all the rage 20 years ago.

[@fuglbird]

He was impressed by the fuel economy. It's almost thirsty as the motorcycles I had in the seventies end eighties. I reached 28 km/l over 9000 km on my SV650 this year.

[@nicocanali]

Agreed with everything you've said. Regarding the range, what I do is using the "liters consumed" as a fuel gage: when it's close to 17, time to go. I also really don't understand why the range is not always shown...oh well! Love this bike, whenever I ride my 2009 GSXR 600 (which doesn't even have ABS) it feels so ancient compared to this 😆

[@cafesociety8525]

I hope this and the 636 sell like crazy. It'd be nice to reinvigorate the class.

[@chrisC-d6j]

so enthusiastic - really nice video. I love my 2007 RR :)

[@gxtoast2221]

I had an immaculate 2008 CBR600RR for a few years before I had to sell it (still in immaculate condition after 35K kms). I loved it so much and missed it every day. Just bought a Duke 890 R and while it is sharp handling the engine doesn't sing and the bike doesn't make me smile like the 600RR.

[@sharkfaced]

Great clip good job ❤ I’ve owned some of the fastest poshest bikes and among them had both panigale v4r’s and added the full akro to the 2023 version (#23) , currently own a diavel 1260 bought new this year (old stock - Kuwait 🇰🇼) … But, I love this 600 and would love to own one - drove the 600f2 back in the 90’s and always loved the cbr600 …. I think we all know deep down that you can’t go wrong with this bike ☺️

[@fud1376]

A Proper Weapon.....My fav bike !!

[@mooshdaddy123]

I wish we got the updated one in the USA

[@kevskibiz]

Always loved the cbr … defo still on my list of bikes to own …top notch review from you both 👊

[@Mansell5Senna8]

Felt the same about a bit more get up and go when i had my Gixixer 600, fixed with a Gixxer 750 :))

[@anconablue72]

Great review, i looked at these soon as they were reintroduced/re-released and almost hit the button on one but it meant px-ing my 2016 Repsol RR , but i just couldn't bear to part with it, so still saving for a new one as an additional bike 🤣it would look ace in pearl white..

[@theincrediblesulk5543]

Loved this lads, long live the supersport! Hopefully Suzuki see the light and bring an updated GSXR 750 with VVT tech in white and blue

[@jaudicedbrow]

It's a lovely bike. It's biggest problem is that you can get a nice, low-mileage 2005 model for about £4K. 90% of the bike for 40% of the price.

[@benjamin_f_gates]

unfortunately just not a lot of x-factor with the newer cbrs. gotta agree that the 2005-2008 generations might be better-looking too

[@TheInfantry98]

Nope. Your wrong boomer

[@stfu6397]

@@TheInfantry98you’re*

[@zlatomirzlatanov6508]

The quoted 2005 model doesn’t share much specs with the 2024 except for the main engine parts e.g. bore stroke … suspension wise it’s totally more advanced …. and it’s more potent … 109hp at the wheel stock compared to 101-3 2005 model. Road wise …. the piece of mind in safety with all abs, cornering abs and better throttle control (RBW) it deserves its price tag

[@Manu_Air228]

in Germany you pay 80% for a 20 year old one which is mad, here it pretty much only makes sense to buy new at the moment

[@lattebean66]

This review is great! Love the bike, love the long term review.

[@HrdStL11]

Great to see Honda producing another CBR600RR. Inline 4 FTW

[@christaylor5924]

That’s looks gorgeous. Lovely bike

[@Terraceview]

Beautiful bike, glad you're enjoying it.

[@shadowred1980]

Great job, thanks to Dan and Neevsey. :)

[@KosmicKitchen]

Very informative, thank you. I confirm the heat management in summer traffic; it can burn your ankles. That did stop me from ordering one of those though.

[@mohammedal-ahdal9683]

Beautiful bike indeed….I ordered the 2025 model. I hope it will have the fuel gage…I am also going for the Puig wind screen, and for the exhaust I will swap it for Akrapovic slip-on…😉

[@splodge57]

Never trust a fuel gauge, I always reset trip when fillling up, never fails. Nice looking bike but those front indicators are terrible, they should've put them in the mirrors.

[@headrace4863]

The fuel countdown works on the principle it knows how much fuel it has at a fixed point (reserve light), it then calculates on current consumption how much range it has from that fixed point. Hence, when you left your garage and warming up it thought it had loads left, but in reality you’d used more than the fixed point it starts calculation from.

[@adderhoney]

This was a good review, well done.

[@itsemiemaximo9354]

Amazing commentary!

[@848evo4]

Honda, bring this to the USA!!!

[@SuPpOsEdLyThIsIsCoOl]

So true about cars getting out the way of sports bikes!

[@GiacintoMarcellino]

Yes I want to be that guy with the full system. And everyone is that guy. This bloody regulations are utter bs.

[@tokyocoates]

Great review. This is why we ride.

[@darynfalandys6343]

Excellent review. Bro, Your off the line launch is fantastic. Honda is "dragging ass" about launching this in USA. Awesome bike. IMO, I think supersport will make a comback. I think the sport nakeds have taken away some of the market. And, as fun as they are, they are not supersport, and people eventually realize that... Beautiful bike, can't wait to see it here in USA...

[@God_help_us]

Still got my 2012 RR in black…no abs and pre EURO 6..she rips 😊

[@TheOriginalCoda]

One thing I've just noticed, it doesn't need a bloody tail tidy unlike most other new bikes.

[@adiohead]

Such a good looking bike!

[@kleinbottled79]

My 2017 doesn't get hot in the seat at all; supporting the idea that emissions equipment might be the cause. The only place I feel heat coming off it is around my ankles and calves. And then, it's only really noticeable on warm/hot days.

[@mikeritchie5500]

Beautiful bike, decals are ace, one of the middleweights that have looked as good as the 1000CC or better!

[@fuglbird]

The heated seat must be perfect in the winter. Edit: I agree that cruise control is more useful than rider modes and traction control.

[@KiwiMoto72]

nice work as always Dan and Neevsey. I really wnt to out this up against my RS660 on the track next year.

[@eladlevi9607]

Waiting for your results :) I'm really breaking my head figuring what will suit me better. I'm a 2-3 times a month track day guy who also commute everyday to work with lots of hard traffic and lane filtering. I wish I could make the clip-ons for the cbr600rr a little higher by 5cm.

[@davidebbs2797]

Long live the original supersport!! Really enjoyed following this long termer on the RR guys. Now how about a road test on the bigger brother RR-R SP 🙏😁

[@joeblow5037]

Honda knows how to make a bike look good

[@jaffabaffa]

Really curious to see how both this bike and its direct competitors will "perform" in terms of sales. If this newly revived niche genre won't sell well, this generation will probably be the very last for a long while...

[@thecornishbiker9323]

My local dealer in cornwall sold all 15 of his and has 10 on the wanted list they will sell well at the price

[@jaffabaffa]

​@@thecornishbiker9323Good to hear!

[@ChaseN194]

Shame this hasnt come to america

[@RobertJones-pm3zk]

When I had an R1 every time I filled up I would just reset one of the mileage counters so that I would know how many miles I have gone to know where the fuel is. I like fuel gauges too but didn't have an issue with just following mileage on my sport bike after a bit.

[@duncanharvey2209]

Looks nice! Serious question. How do you run out of fuel when you would have spent most of your life without a fuel gauge? Doesnt everyone reset a trip metre every time you fill the tank? I have a 2022 Ninja 1000 and it has all that range and gauge stuff but i still do it for this exact reason. No hate, legitimate question as I thought literally every rider did this?

[@theant9821]

Exactly 100 miles give or take and you'll never get caught out on most bikes. My 14 cbr600rr will still do 120 miles even if you thrash it but the 100 means you've always got enough to get more fuel.

[@shawnthorsen4361]

Dan, have you found your version of Michael’s life long love affair “GSXR 750”??? Is the CBR600RR destined to be your muse? That smile on your face makes me think so! 😊

[@FatSn8ke]

People loves inline-4's high revving character but always hope for a little bit more low-end torque at the same time😆

[@maikeldemeyer6894]

Rotrex supercharger 😉

[@bullittproof]

20:25 "Do you want to be that guy with the full system?" Always.. I always want to be that guy 😀

[@gmer16402]

I’d love to see this platform on a naked version, to replace the current cb750r, but keeping a neo sports cafe styling. Then add cruise control (and a fuel gauge

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

It's crazy how the US is still getting the previous 600rr for this and I think next year.

[@Andyiswatching]

I love Honda

[@LushmanGB]

Great video I bought one of these in July from wheels I part exchanged my multistrada for it. I love it but do find it uncomfortable if I ride it exuberantly as I broke my hip earlier in the year but normal road riding it is ok.

[@lonpfrb]

Physiotherapy is your way forward

[@franciscoeduardo3831]

i've ordered one....good to know that doesnt have fuel gauge until it goes to reserve :)

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Went from Dunlop Road Sport 2’s to the Continental Sport Attack 4’s. What a massive, massive difference…

[@mortaljorma69]

Pilot roads are way better, especially in British wet roads. Also, they last forever.

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

@ I live in northern New England in the state of Vermont. it’s not anywhere near as wet here. Pilot Roads don’t grip as good or offer as nice of a flick in like sport attacks do, we ride a lot of mountain gap roads. I would consider those tires on a sport tourer.

[@lonpfrb]

Dunlop SportSmart TT are awesome for road and track.

[@RyanMcIntyre]

I dailied a 600RR through all 4 seasons without skipping a day for years, what race bike can say that? Plus it’s still 95% as capable as the R6. I had the R6 too, hated it on the street but it was THE tool for the track.

[@davidbarton7463]

Something rather intoxicating about a screaming four pot that demands to be spanked, I have the same "lack of fuel gauge" issues with my CBR400RR so I reset the trip every time I fill it up, another useful tip I can offer is keep some petrol in your garage so you can brim it before riding off knowing you have full range available. Dan this is a lovely bike to ride so if buying one would you opt for this colour or the more stealthy Black One?

[@RichardAttwood-i7w]

Had mine since June and have to say that I have never had an issue with heat under the seat and ive been out on the hottest days this summer....... didn;t have a problem with my 2006 CBR either,,, Agree on the point about the tyres - mine came with dunlops which are ok but will be glad when I can change them. Just a personal thing and preference for a different make which will likely by Michelin pilots. Fuel gauge issue is mildly annoying but I will live it especially as reserve is a decent 50 miles which is plenty to find a petrol station... Could the little niggles highlighted by the review be addressed - likely yes but for the price (which I think is astounding for the quality and what you get) I don't think you could ask for more. Interesting to see what the 2025 version includes and any increase in the cost......

[@paulfowler7618]

This and the ZX6R are such good value. Half the price of their 1000cc big brothers but not half the fun. I hope Suzuki bring back the GSXR600. Btw I had a 2008 model R1 and that had the same issues with the heat off its underseat exhaust and part of the reason I sold it in the end sadly.

[@scottdawkins5516]

What a beautiful bike. I know it's going back to Honda but you could view the oil level using your phone (video mode).

[@iamtheiceman]

Or a small hand mirror

[@scottdawkins5516]

Yes, even simpler 😂. Mind you a phone has a light, which may be necessary.

[@seanthomas2906]

Love it

[@bazza8947]

Honda have priced this bike in Australia at $30,000 AUD which is just over 15,000 pounds. They have absolutely lost their collective minds!!!!!

[@roetietoe]

i just use the daytripmeter as fuelgauge 160km.. go to the pump.. (cbr1000) And if im feeling dangerous ill ride until the light comes on.

[@SubZerozn]

Nice one 👌🏻

[@oOKAMAKAYAOo]

33:15 The africa twin is like this as well. I can see why they did it like this. Think of 1 unit as 1 unit of electronic intervention.

[@bernardoberner4]

11:41 british like to mock the americans for being stupid and all, but mate, who in their right mind thought, STONE, was a good unit for weight. Im not american btw I think you all look silly😂 using, miles, feet, inches, gallons, stone😂

[@berttompkins9096]

Short gears work as well . 4 cyl REVS to 16000 makes up for it.

[@iLwSZ]

The problem with the oil window is since the first models.

[@iamtheiceman]

Yes, please speak to Honda. 1. Needs a fuel gauge 2. Bring this bike to North America please !

[@janeelp]

Stupid question, because the bike is very similar to older models, would it be possible to swap out with a used older OEM undersear muffler from a prior generation to reduce the heat generation issues at the seat?

[@superduperkid3143]

Honda has 5 or more. Kawi has 7 or more, Suzuki has over 5 and that's just without searching. The issue is cost. Supersports (new) are expensive, uncomfortable and not practical. Social media has brainwashed people to think they need 15K rpm beasts of a motorcycle when in reality most people can't handle more than a ninja 500. Most people aren't going to the track. Most people aren't knee dragging or redlining/banging gears.

[@astrostrotch]

You two are great together......😂

[@tobysemler]

God it looks good.

[@hyeGUY25]

Aprilia rs660 142 mph maxed out with car stock everything.

[@dougiequick1]

I was just thinking the BEST most fool proof possible fuel guage would ba transparent fuel tube outside of thr tank running high enough to indicate full....I mean no one has that and I always wondered why not? Utterly fool proof no sensor or guage to fail ya know? Just transparent tubing

[@distancejunkiemonkey4491]

The trip odometer is the only fuel gauge to be trusted

[@eladlevi9607]

Hey MCN, amazing review as always! 😊 I’m seriously stuck trying to decide between the Aprilia RS660 and the Honda CBR600RR-can't figure out which one would suit me better. I do track days 2-3 times a month, so performance is a big factor. But I also commute daily through heavy traffic, with plenty of lane filtering. For added comfort, I’d love to raise the CBR600RR clip-ons by around 5 cm. Any thoughts on which of these bikes might be the best fit for both track and daily commuting? Thanks in advance!

[@theant9821]

Just set the trip to 0 and fill up every 100 miles, my 14 bike has fuel gauge but I'll always look for fuel around 100 miles. Just like with any other bike. Better safe than sorry. Unless it's an old ducati, which runs out at 90 miles.

[@mwng5186]

call me a middle aged teenager but I love flicking my right wrist, never more than with one finger on the brake lever and rev matching on the way down the box.

[@RobertJones-pm3zk]

I think you should buy it for yourself. It seems to make you happy and who could ask for more:)

[@sumitgupta-uf4hq]

This looks better than 1000RR

[@Titot182]

Would it be better saving the dosh and have an 07 CBR600RR and spend the savings on a second bike?

[@bingobango4646]

07-08 best 600rr

[@Titot182]

@@bingobango4646 Yeah, I'm itching for a 600 again and was very very tempted to find an 07. It just does everything so "Honda" like and can be snapped up for 3.5k. I know my wallet will be happier