Liz Truss’s ploy to ruin the Conservative Party’s election chances

[@crowbar9566]

Slight whiff of power and she went full megalomaniac

[@DavidJohnson-yg8qm]

I don't agree. She had conservative policies. That is where she went wrong, oh and also Sunak failed to get the job so as the previous chancellor everything was in place to bounce her out of the job. I didn't agree with her policies but her termination was no surprise to me.

[@davidbaxter4910]

ABSOLUTEMENT.

[@stephenhodgson3506]

I'll give her one thing, she's right in saying we have ten years to save the West but that is by ensuring the Tories are kept out of power.

[@ianworley8169]

Trump AND the Tories more like.

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

So you're a Conservative through and through then...😂

[@John-pr2gw]

@@ianworley8169 Whatever you say, Doctor Retardo..

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

@@ianworley8169a British Trump is our last hope

[@linmal2242]

@@Wolf-hh4rv Well, you have exiled Farage , one man with a bit of sense proposing for Britain ! STOP importing Moslem invaders to colonise your society for Islam !!!

[@jamesgriffithsmusic]

Where's his evidence that the Tories are economically competent and 'prudent' with the nation's finances? Every time they get into power, the country's infrastructure and vital services fall to bits. Or are infrastructure and vital services not part of the economy?

[@backgammonbacon]

He just said that's what people think not that its true. And people do think that despite all the evidence to the contrary. Labour have grown the economy massively every time they have got into power but somehow people forget this. I don't think people actually know the stats behind the economy they just got this idea that the Conservatives are good from somewhere and it wont shift.

[@taykitrleevitt4314]

​@@backgammonbaconThe result of Tory media outlets feeding the usual propaganda B.S.

[@suburbia2050]

I think it's more about a perception of reigning in "expenses". It's why the Blair government could go on a spending spree after Major. Obviously expenses mean different things to different people and as you cut ever deeper into ever aging infrastructure investment while international competition around you grows it becomes more of a dangerous tactic, Camerons austerity programme was particularly disastrous, evident by the stagnation in productivity in the UK since. I don't think Sunak is much different to Truss, re crippling HS2 and reducing investment in green industries, two areas that could actually improve productivity in the UK, specifically in the North, the Tories now are more like a one trick pony over reliant on the unicorn of the spontaneous entrepreneur that is meant to mythically appear from tax cuts where in reality tax cuts just increases our existing poor trade deficit and continues the cycle of the south east heavily to give hand outs to the rest of the country.

[@billkingston4402]

But they get very rich 🤑

[@daraorourke5798]

Its just a comfort blanket they grasp at.

[@baseline33]

I’m pushing ninety. I have never been so disgusted with the performance of any government in all my time. The Conservatives do not have a chance.

[@DavidJohnson-yg8qm]

100% agree. Virtually all MPs are a disgrace. Andrew Bridgen can provide proof of that.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Let's hope you never have to witness another Tory government in your lifetime.

[@nickryder9669]

@@ArtyFactual_Intelligenceand lives to 1,000 years old

[@aleccap5946]

No one, absolutely no one in their right mind would disagree with that statement

[@martinradcliffe4798]

What a weird person she is.

[@taykitrleevitt4314]

Probably why she was accepted into the Tory party.🤪😂

[@billkingston4402]

Very weird, only conservative members would vote her in, the general public on the other hand think Liz is nuts

[@rde4017]

A text book narcissist.

[@davidbaxter4910]

ABSOLUTEMENT.

[@davidbaxter4910]

​@@billkingston4402SHE IS NUTS.

[@AndyFletcherX31]

I'm not sure she could lower the Conservative Party’s election chances if she tried. They are already out of the gutter and well down the drain on their way to the river outfall.

[@jimbob-robob]

They'll have to get past the Tory sewage in the river outfall first...

[@papamurrth1]

If anyone could, Liz could

[@robertmaslin3844]

Don't you mean sewerage outfall?

[@Ominousheat]

TR seems to be implying Truss is the conservative party's problem. That is a blatant distraction from how far right the tory's have gone.

[@Iazzaboyce]

It's still early days and believing polls is a 'fool's paradise'. Firstly, many Tory voters have a long tradition of deserting the party mid-term to apply pressure on policy. So, there will be many right-wing people not voting in local or by-elections and telling lies to pollsters. These people always vote in general elections and never want Labour. Then there's the matter of Reform leeching crucial votes from Tory candidates. In theory, this appears great for Labour - in practice Reform takes votes from Labour too (May discovered this in 2017 when she wrongly assumed post referendum all 2015 UKIP votes would go Tory). Also it's looking probable the Tory Party will shift to the right and make an election pact with Reform to leave the ECHR and stop the boats. This would mean Reform and Tories not contesting the same seat and making the general election all about 'the boats'. As Harold Wilson famously once said: _"A week is a long time in politics."_

[@billkingston4402]

Liz should move to Florida, plenty of friends there

[@ian1753]

Florida is damn amazing nowadays. California on the other hand is a disaster

[@simonbamford8441]

It won’t be the men in grey suits who give her advice, it will be the men in white coats who take her away!

[@daraorourke5798]

They all thinks she's bonkers. But the Tory members would take her back in a heartbeat 😂

[@davidbaxter4910]

ABSOLUTEMENT.

[@geofflittler2035]

I listened to the lettuce speaking this afternoon in the House Of Commons when they were debating the proposed smoking ban. I have read that 2/3rds of the population support the ban. Over 70% of Conservative voters support the smoking ban. She had the bare brass neck to claim that large chunks of her party are not listening to the public. I don't know what Lizzie Lettuce has been smoking but I don't think it's Dunhill Luxury Length.

[@michaelbrian219]

Have they ever listened to the public?

[@marthas.4456]

I'm just surprised the Conservatives still have some support amongst the population.

[@skmo7072]

So fascist for a lettuce!

[@normasarsby1350]

Lettuce are allowed to be fascist.

[@mrchoochoohead9033]

Having Liv Struss doing that audiobook would almost make worth listening to. Not that I will anyway because I have to pay a lot more money on my mortgage now

[@joshuachapman247]

Liz Tuss - You want Crazy you get Crazy.

[@jimmeltonbradley1497]

Truss isn't a Conservative. Economic prudence is an alien concept to her. She is also totally lacking in self-awareness.

[@billpugh58]

Hey, we have seen what prudence a conservative government exercises the last 14 years😂

[@markmorris1105]

It's a Good job she was Removed from being the PM , just another Trump supporter 😢😢

[@pontimin4173]

Truss is an idiot. if she tried to make the Tories do badly, it'd probably make them do better.

[@Shredx1]

Conservative party are traitors. They have destroyed my country. The UK is finished. Shame on you

[@mikekelly5869]

Which of the current crop would you call a true conservative. I'm not being ironic, I'd be interested to know.

[@screamboy8]

Liz Truss is merely twisting the dagger which is already in the heart of the Conservative Party.

[@rogerphelps9939]

Good.

[@growlerthe2nd712]

She is the dagger 🗡️ 😮

[@TheLucanicLord]

TIL it has one. I've known it had no brain for 14 years.

[@matthewcook9404]

Think Liz Truss. Think cheese. Think lettuce. Think crazy. 😂😂

[@CountScarlioni]

I wonder if the Chinese pork markets still think of Liz Truss? 😅

[@1pauljs]

‘Magical thinker’ that is very generous. She’s a wolly brain.

[@juliangilbert5465]

Journalists should NEVER go for dinner or drinks with ANY politician, good or bad. Your job is to hold them to account .

[@kennethvenezia4400]

Wow! I never knew that Liz was a comedy writer

[@brianm.9062]

just flogging the book, and as for the tory party, flogging a dead horse.

[@Andrew-dm8mk]

She obviously hasn’t thought things out by publishing her book, she has single handedly uncovered the Conservatives agenda. Congratulations Liz Thank you for showing the Conservatives true colours.

[@chelloandra]

Tory party watching the far right making nuts decisions

[@patshiels5429]

How did Norfolk select her ?

[@pgtipz7468]

Have you ever met people from Norfolk?

[@CountScarlioni]

Yeah, well that's a question that surely answers itself. How is because it's Norfolk!

[@michaelbrian219]

They must have been paid.

[@g.pmoore4293]

Interbreeding

[@Tsunamiash80]

Norfolk is a Tory Stonghold. They would vote for a pig with a blue rosette. If only that were the option instead of Truss.

[@edc8388]

That ship has sailed ... LONG AGO.

[@jamesjukebox2386]

She was part of their imminent catastrophe, and will be remembered for being the shortest serving PM and the most inept! flushed!

[@josephhoward3558]

I would liked to have seen her more distraught over what her policies had done to people but this doesn't seem to be the case.

[@Beef_Curtains]

She should be in prison for all the misery she caused.

[@JohnSmall314]

Not the only one. A lot of minsters and ex-ministers in recent Tory governments should be prosecuted for misconduct in public office.

[@shaunjp2211]

If you put all the conservatives in prison for the criminal behaviour that they cursed this country harm, then we'd need to build more prisons. Admittedly Truss belongs in a padded cell wearing a fashionable straight jacket. She's bonkers!!

[@timsimmons5953]

If it sounds like a child and it looks like a child then it is a child, in the world of politics.

[@beachcomber1able]

Not even Tice would have her. 😄

[@daviddunne4737]

Truss ..........a fruit and nut case .

[@rodmarker2071]

A classic example of the "Dunning Kruger effect ", a cognitive bias whereby people with limited knowledge or competence in a given intellectual or social domain greatly overestimate their own knowledge or competence in that domain relative to objective criteria or to the performance of their peers or of people in general.

[@XxBloggs]

You'd think this failure of a woman would disappear and hide from the public stage forever. What a waste of space.

[@Royboy50]

They are all collectively shameless

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

I'd still give her One. But that's a score out of Ten.

[@adamdymke8004]

There's no money in obscurity. No glory either.

[@chelloandra]

truss can it get more cringe ?

[@GorgeDawes]

The Liz Truss libertarian agenda isn’t really about appealing to a significant bloc of the voting public. It’s about appealing to American billionaires who might write you a big cheque.

[@georgesdelatour]

Zero seats!

[@lukeamato423]

I thought she decomposed already

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

No that was a vegeta... oh, wait.

[@eoghangreene5728]

No, people laughed when Lizzy was sacked after a few weeks but in the end, the lettuce is gone and Lizzy lives on. Lettuce pray for britain.

[@nugstendo]

Claiming "All Libertarians want a police state" is insane, takes zero understanding of political ideologies to make such a claim

[@drummingtildeath]

What about the guy that claimed everyone was happy when Johnson got brexit done, and that his personality is popular? There was quite a lot of nonsense being spouted.

[@JohnSmall314]

'Claiming "All Libertarians want a police state" is insane," Well maybe not all, but most of them. If you read the small print on libertarianism it only ever means liberty for rich white people and everyone else should know their place and take orders from their superiors. If you want to know a person's real motives you should never listen to what they say but watch what they do when faced with difficult choices. So what did the self-styled 'libertarians' of the Tory party do when faced with public sector workers demanding more liberty in the form of living wages? They passed laws restricting their liberty to go on strike. That shows their real motives. All the liberties people have wrung from powerful people at the top have come through left wing agitation, not right wing 'libertarians'. You'll never see a self-styled 'libertarian' on the picket lines with workers striking for more liberty in their lives. You'll never see a self-styled 'libertarian' on the Channel beaches welcoming destitute refugees from authoritarian regimes seeking liberty on our shores. That's because self-styled 'libertarians' do not care for liberty for the masses, it's only ever liberty for the very rich, and a police state for everyone else. Putin is the finest example of 'libertarian' around. He has the liberty to do whatever he wants and every one else in Russia lives in a police state.

[@YouTubemessedupmyhandle]

But they’re not true libertarians, they’re ultra conservatives who abuse the term.

[@astratan2238]

Libertarianism as an ideology might technically advocate against such a policy. In practice, though, every libertarian elected to high office slashes everything except the security services - then uses those to maintain the status quo while the rest burns.

[@Hession0Drasha]

They need the police state though, as the oligarchy created, makes the masses rebel. There hasn't been a libertarian state, where the majority of people have happilly participated, or had their living standards increase. In the best possible outcome, you get a one off burst of meritocracy, where the winners and their decendants become lords, and the decendants of the losers, stay poor serfs, irregardless of merit.

[@jhonson7079]

People are sleeping on the streets can't afford to pay their bills and we're wasting our lives talking about this waste of space

[@friedaelizabethchorlton8654]

She would be best being auditioned for a part in Star Trek The Unseen Generation 😂😂😂

[@ivanconnolly7332]

If she opens her package again , its like Pandora's box!.

[@midlandgeordie]

Truss is mad,the only good thing is she adds to the Tories woes!! Tories are finished!!!

[@domhuckle]

I'm glad Liz is still exposing herself on the national stage - let's get Boris, May and the whole motley of fools together as a reminder of the "best" that this party can offer

[@franceslynch8815]

She is comedy gold.

[@doubledigital_]

her voice.. urg

[@shaunjp2211]

Once upon a time a lettuce went to live in number 10 and thought she was extremely clever, more so than everyone else at least. But the big bad crash proved she was wrong and everyone paid for her mistakes. Then she wrote comedic book about her adventures.

[@jspeakman53]

Have you heard the latest Liz Truss joke. Say ‘Liz Truss’

[@khar12d8]

She really does come across as unhinged. And has the personality of a lettuce. Whatever you thought about Mrs Thatcher she had charisma and was clearly very intelligent. Liz Truss has gone from a Cameroon Tory supporting Remain to hanging around with Steve Bannon talking about the "deep state". I cannot imagine what her family think. It's quite a difference.

[@jeremymanson1781]

Her parents were Labour supporters.

[@systemofapown]

Her Dad is professor of maths at University of Leeds. So he's probably intelligent enough to be horrified. Truss said herself in an interview yesterday that her parents still argue with her about her politics.

[@RobbieMeadows-oz4cx]

Truss met up with Steve Bannon 😮.Fizz with Liz has turned conspiracy with Liz 😅. I can't believe that she hasn't moved to some obscure town hiding with embarrassment. The Tories are so arrogant! Cameron destroyed the country, and now he's back on his horse 😂 .Truss destroys the country, throws her toys out of the pram , attacks her party , helping them lose the next election. Tories, l don't like them at all..

[@jhonson7079]

She delivered alright for the banks the book should have been called how to get 120,000 a year pension for destroying a country

[@michaelnordin2662]

Old farth Liberals!

[@alanchamberlain4173]

Around 17'00" Mandelson is not sure who is likely to support Truss. Just look who her friends are: Trump, Bannon, Wilders, Orbán. She (not the exploded Johnson) is now the QAnon representative in England.

[@Pieman2008i]

Not listening to anything anout liz the lettuce for 40 minutes.

[@timelwell7002]

RISHI SUNAK: We have a plan, and the plan is working.' LIZ TRUSS: 'We will deliver, deliver, deliver...' RISHI SUNAK: 'I will work day in and day out to DELIVER for you. This government will have integrity, professionalism and accountability at every level.' PENNY MORDAUNT: 'We fight, and fight, and fight some more..!' LIZ TRUSS: 'At the moment, we do not export cheese to Japan. This is a DISGACE..!' SUELLA BRAVERMAN: 'I blame the Guardian-reading, tofu-eating wokerati...' BORIS JOHNSON: 'We will build 40 new hospitals...' BORIS JOHNSON: 'There will be £350 Million every week for the NHS after Brexit.' LEE ANDERSON: 'You can feed a family for 30p per day...' JACOB REES MOGG: 'Food Banks are heart-warming...' LIZ TRUSS: 'I'm ready hit the ground running from day one...' STEPHEN BARCLAY: 'We're investing in our workforce, in our NHS estate, in the latest technology. That is how we build a sustainable NHS for the future.' BORIS JOHNSON: 'Let the bodies pile high...' The words of Tory Ministers speak for themselves. It's just a pity that the reality is somewhat different from their rhetoric. Except for the bodies piling high, which sadly DID come to pass...

[@paulnewman2000]

I really thought that was Nerine Skinner doing one of her excellent Liv Struss spoofs. Is that really printed in Liz Truss' book?

[@tonyb9735]

Yes, Nerine Skinner reading genuine excerpts from the book.

[@PennyBloater]

I rarely agree with his views but think Mandelson is spot on about the values of the Red Wall differing from the libertarian right

[@roberthayes9842]

An ego run riot, but whats really disturbing they took her seriously

[@davidbaxter4910]

ABSOLUTEMENT.

[@johnholkham2420]

Truss laboured under the dum assumption that Rich people improve the economy , no they don’t Governments using balanced economics involves Tax , investment and most importantly improving the lot of ordinary people so they can then take part in the economic process.

[@DJWHITE_]

Can we stop taking about it?

[@GorgeDawes]

Liz Truss is “not really a deep thinker”? That is the greatest understatement I have heard all year.

[@CarlElwell]

Its already a joke in America...

[@TerribleFire]

The problem with Truss is that there are a few nuggets of truth in the midst of her complete hallucinations

[@andybrice2711]

I'm no fan of Truss and her terrible regressive policies. But the mainstream narrative that she "crashed the economy" just doesn't add up. The stock market dipped around the time that interest rates went up. That's normal. And the stock market doesn't even represent the economy particularly well. Yet every single news outlet jumped on the opportunity to blame her for everything, without any skepticism.

[@fedstar123]

Peter Mandelson strikes me as the personification of everything that is wrong in the Labour Party today: a focus on politics rather than people. I'd go so far as to suggest that he sees people as a block to politician's lofty ambitions. Thank you Matt for answering Mandy's 'rhetorical' question about Corbyn's response to the Iran/Israel conflict as wanting "peace"- best part of the podcast!

[@onenote6619]

Liz Truss. A triumph of ambition over competence.

[@ethzero]

Nerine Skinner needs to do the whole book. It's Partridge-grade material. But with the very scary aspect that that was a former Prime Minister 😮

[@MichaelGill-eu1st]

She was a bad apple for sure. 🙀

[@kurman4749]

Well, 49 days as Tory prime minister will cement her place in British political history as an incompetent failure

[@Peter-d9p]

Goodbye tories, 30 years of obscurity awaits!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@AntiTory]

Don't be so sure - the English are a masochistic lot.

[@marthas.4456]

GO LIZ, GO !!! 😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣

[@Peter-d9p]

Truss is the icing on a rotten cake called The Tory Party!!!!

[@georgewaters6424]

What a bizarre take on Liz Trusses intentions lololol

[@francisravenscroft-dw6gi]

When will the Tories get that not everyone that was alive in during the Thatcher regime are nostalgic about it. What actually did Thatcher achieve for working class, income and NI paying Britons, without an accountant? What did May, Johnsone, Truss or Sunak achieve for the same group?

[@DavidWilliams-DSW558]

If she really wanted to deliver, deliver, deliver, why didn't she get a job at a pizzeria, a meal home delivery serive or a logistics company?

[@StPiter111]

We liked Liz in Russia. She's funny😁

[@boydonewrongagain]

The bit about Nick Clegg refusing to authorise larger childcare ratios is not a "win" to brag about. It genuinely could have transformed affordability and supply of childcare over the last 10 years. The result of no reform is poorer families. Good job, Nick!

[@Rhod-wg7yt]

Shes still an MP? Yet another one not doing her job at home while swanning around the nutters speech circuit.

[@diverguy3556]

Some conservative she is. Cutting taxes and increasing borrowing and expecting the invisible hand of the market to do it's work.

[@Dr.Janitor13]

I love watching conservatives complain about how incompetent their own politicians but fail to see the irony.

[@jonmoore873]

She is just doing a farage inspired grift to grab as much cash as she can from telling pretty unpleasant people what they want to hear and should be ignored.

[@michaelhope8899]

You assume Truss is clever……

[@michaelbowling1362]

I will Vote for Truss 🤔 - for the Bush Tucker Trial 😂

[@jonb5493]

At infant school, I remember them torturing one of the girls thus: "Blondie, you're barmy you awta join the army".

[@JR-yd6ug]

Has any normal people brought her book? Or is it just political journalists. That's the only people I hear talking about her.

[@michaelmouse4024]

Imagine being able to want to support truss

[@keithclinch1303]

Truss is a lot of fuss about nothing.

[@alanwhiplington5504]

Polly - spot on.

[@richjames2540]

I don’t think anyone can further damage their election prospects except perhaps Sunak.

[@helenglen8751]

The position the Tories took on Brexit provided the short term gain of getting Brexit past the post but in the longer term it broke the Conservative Party. How long will it take them to realise this and change direction? It’ll be a decade or more if they ever recover. This is Boris Johnson’s legacy.

[@davidboskett5581]

The Tories will lose the next election and that is guaranteed- it is what happens in politics when a party runs off course. Only then will they be able to rid themselves of all the dead wood and rejuvenate the party.But as you predict they will probably spend a decade in the political wilderness as Labour moves more to the right.

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

A lot of people would still give her One. But that's a score out of Ten.

[@Gary-le7dz]

Conservatives election chances 🤩🤩 is hilarious

[@carpog]

Don’t you mean her second ploy? Her first one was in 2022.

[@pinnaclewd]

The Conservative party need to expel her, she is in need of mental health help!

[@tonysimons988]

Would she bring back her disastrous Chancellor.

[@VincentPeters-vs2us]

If anyone believes that Truss is looking for a position in a Think Tank, they are mistaken. She is more suited to a Thick Tank.

[@adampowell5376]

Did Tony Benn wish defeat on the Labour Party?

[@CyclingSteve]

No, I think they meant it as sticking to their principles, the hosts disapproving of principles, good or bad.

[@davedixon2068]

trusses maga party

[@alanchamberlain4173]

Nice to hear some grown-ups for a change, and to hear even Tories pleading for realism.

[@TheAegisClaw]

Honestly, how can someone be so thick and not understand that they're thick after seeing the result of their getting their own way.

[@kevinmole9982]

impossible to do the tories are dust luz truss very important to the labour party lol

[@reverendbarker650]

They have sunk their chances all by themselves, don't need any more help from Lizzy

[@Evemeister12]

Trying to hamper the tories chances in the next general election is like trying to smuggle cannabis into Amsterdam or Jamaica.

[@JuanSanchez-ik7wx]

what a group of wilted tulips.