Norway Math Olympiad Question | You should be able to solve this!

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Some of the most important benefits of participating in math Olympiads include: Improving Problem-Solving Skills: Math Olympiads involve solving complex and challenging math problems. This helps students develop critical thinking and problem-solving skills, which are important for success in many fields.

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@chessandmathguy
@chessandmathguy Жыл бұрын
Much simpler to just calculate 2^18 first, then minus 1. I don't see why 511*513 is any easier to calculate than 512*512.
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 Жыл бұрын
It's far much easier to use the fact that 2^17 is 131072 (address of start of screen memory in a Sinclair QL), double it and subtract 1...
@trashwebsite_user01
@trashwebsite_user01 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking 😊
@The_Real_Sensei
@The_Real_Sensei Жыл бұрын
How are you going to calculate 2^18 though?
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Real_Sensei A well known value is 2^16 = 65536. Or more inaccurately, it is well known to those of us who played with 8 bit micros, where 65536 = 64 old kb which is the maximum amount of memory an 8 bit processor with a 16 bit address bus (eg 6502, 6800, Z80, 8080) could access (directly).
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Real_Sensei Last night we were catching up on an Only Connect episode from 5 or 6 weeks ago. One sequence question was: What comes 4th in the sequence: 65536256, 25616, 164 The answer was 42 as each "number" is made up of a number and its square root, the square root of one starting the next. The first "number" 65536256 is 65536 (2^16) = 256^2 ((2^8)^2).
@percykim
@percykim Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to share a different approach: 2^18 - 1 = 2^10 x 2^2 x 2^6 - 1 = 1024 x 4 x 64 - 1 = 4096 x 64 = 262 144 - 1 = 262 143
@Andreeditsbr
@Andreeditsbr Жыл бұрын
​@bangel7513no!!
@makalaga56
@makalaga56 Жыл бұрын
or just 2^9*2^9-1=512x512-1 :P
@abeljacobi4221
@abeljacobi4221 11 ай бұрын
@@makalaga56Yes, that’s more straightforward and even easier to calculate than 513x511.
@mohamedrefaei1475
@mohamedrefaei1475 8 ай бұрын
Fuck dis shit
@SuperAnangs
@SuperAnangs 7 ай бұрын
​@bangel7513 only typo
@walterengler5709
@walterengler5709 Жыл бұрын
2 to the 18th is 2 to the 16th times 4 (or 2 squared). Anyone with a computer brain knows 2 to the 16th is 65536 (good old computer memory and bits). So times 4 is 262144, subtract 1 = 262143. Everyone should be able to do this in the modern world in their head.
@forcelifeforce
@forcelifeforce Жыл бұрын
Wrong! You wrote a stupid comment. Everyone should *not* able to do this in the modern world in their head! The large majority should not be able to do it. Get educated about people and don't make foolish posts such as this.
@theyassinez1
@theyassinez1 Жыл бұрын
I'm an software engineer and I still don't remember all the powers of two from the top of my head nor should I have to...
@walterengler5709
@walterengler5709 Жыл бұрын
@@theyassinez1 Heresy! Blasphemer! Could not resist lol. I am old school, even know how to use a slide rule lol. It's amazing sometimes describing to some kids these days how the 8 bits are used in all the ASCII font tables. I love flipping a set of text into Ascii on them when they can't find an error and point out how that spot is not a 40 hence it's not a space, it's something else that merely displays as space like which is causing the data issue. They never think of that. They are so visual these days so dependent on all the code we wrote in the past to do everything for them. Sigh.
@sdscode
@sdscode Жыл бұрын
Agreed, however the idea is to be able to follow a process more than just express a result, I think.
@Wordsalad69420
@Wordsalad69420 Жыл бұрын
@@theyassinez1As a software engineer you should know 2 to the 16 because it’s the size of a short.
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 11 ай бұрын
Children of the 8 bit era certainly know all the powers of 2 up to 16; So if you already know that 2^16 is 65536 you may as well go for the direct route. Either double it twice, or multiple by 4 (which ever you find easiest) and subtract 1.
@byt5
@byt5 10 ай бұрын
​@@vdamkyна 2 просто умножить...
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 9 ай бұрын
@@vdamky Technically we actually move the digits through the place value columns left (multiply) or right (divide). However, on paper it is easier to move the _decimal point_ than to shift the digits as we implicitly know the place value columns and it is the decimal point that is visible[1] which tells us where the place value columns apply to the number. [1] If the decimal point is not visible (as the number is an integer) then it is taken to be after the last digit which is in the units place value column.
@martschkiperov4694
@martschkiperov4694 9 ай бұрын
even starting from only 8bit 256 it takes shorter time, that was spent in the video
@2002budokan
@2002budokan 8 ай бұрын
I'm one of them C64's 6502 assembler's magic limit was 65535 or 0xFFFF (next number 2^16). 65536*4-1
@petepeterson5337
@petepeterson5337 8 ай бұрын
That's how I did it Paul!
@yurizappa268
@yurizappa268 Жыл бұрын
As a computer enthusiast I remember powers of 2 up to 2^16 at least which is 65536. Then I multiply it by 4 and subtract 1.
@xxxAzhraelxxx
@xxxAzhraelxxx Жыл бұрын
So I am not the only one. 🙂
@chrisw4562
@chrisw4562 Жыл бұрын
Excellent! My math brain told me 2^10 = 1024, then multiply by 256 and subtract one. Easy.
@TontonZen
@TontonZen 11 ай бұрын
Same initial reasoning... But then 2^9 is like the max byte size times two which is 512, square that and subtract 1. Rather easy.
@jcb3393
@jcb3393 11 ай бұрын
@@chrisw4562 that's what I did as well
@ceejay0137
@ceejay0137 11 ай бұрын
Yes, if you remember 2^16 = 65536 then multiply by 4 and subtract 1 is quicker than the method in the video.
@haweater1555
@haweater1555 Жыл бұрын
The correct answer, in binary, is: 111111111111111111.
@stiryualaghani8960
@stiryualaghani8960 11 ай бұрын
Thats big brain move
@lnmukund6152
@lnmukund6152 10 ай бұрын
This is wrong answer Mukundsir
@VitorJKhan
@VitorJKhan 10 ай бұрын
No specific easy answer.
@user-by3jv4wy6x
@user-by3jv4wy6x 7 ай бұрын
Antora islam riya
@austin4768
@austin4768 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought this is what the answer was gonna be when I saw the thumbnail - it’s a super boring problem if it’s just base 10
@mater5930
@mater5930 Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why we would know what 2^9 is and not know what 2^18 is? That is really the essence of this problem.
@davidbornstein9197
@davidbornstein9197 Жыл бұрын
Yes 2 to the 9 you can do in your head
@mater5930
@mater5930 Жыл бұрын
@@davidbornstein9197 You are right. But than the essence of this problem is brute calculation. There is nothing elegant about it. Besides, the power to which a person can calculate an exponent is subjective. Mathematic solutions are most powerful when the method minimize or completely remove the need for brute force calculations.
@jkchandravanshi
@jkchandravanshi Жыл бұрын
U r right. It is very simple. 512 x 512 - 1 = 2,62,143
@jkchandravanshi
@jkchandravanshi Жыл бұрын
Simply do: 512 x 512 - 1 = 2,62,143 What is the point in beating around the bush?
@mattpantyhose5666
@mattpantyhose5666 Жыл бұрын
You're in the internet land. You should know all the powers of 2, up until 10. Because 1024 is an important round number in the world of computer science. :-)
@bipulbasak1514
@bipulbasak1514 Жыл бұрын
I literally multiplied 2 by itself 18 times and found the answer faster than her 💀💀
@boldibrown8533
@boldibrown8533 11 ай бұрын
They probably wanted to see how you got to the solution. Just by multiplying 2 by 18 times is not enough for an actual solution.
@marcelolage1395
@marcelolage1395 10 ай бұрын
​​@@boldibrown8533it is exactly the solution. Unless they stated that you needed to use something specific. Computing it is a way to solve
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 8 ай бұрын
​@@boldibrown8533 hahahaha. What? Sucessive multiplication is a solution just fine. Stop talking silly things.
@huntbat
@huntbat 7 ай бұрын
@@samueldeandrade8535 the thing is, in an exam, its completely impractical. You don't time to waste. yes i might use it as a last resort but doing this method is much faster.
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 7 ай бұрын
@@huntbat man, some people are very fast with multiplications. Also, calculating 2¹⁸-1 shouldn't even be in a test.
@yogeshwarrao1506
@yogeshwarrao1506 11 ай бұрын
In 2^n, for n = 1, unit place digit is 2 For n = 2, unit palce is 4 For n = 3, unit place is 8 For n = 4, unit place is 6 This cycle of 2, 4, 8, 6 will repeat for every power of form 4m+1, 4m+2, 4m+3, 4m+4. So if n = 18 it is of form 4m+2 so units place is 4, and subtracting 1 from it will give 3.
@user-si6fd6lw6e
@user-si6fd6lw6e Жыл бұрын
Since there are many similar problems, most people probably know how to calculate them easily without making mistakes. You need not stick to the factorization formula. There are also concrete examples in this comment section. As a solution method, (1) decompose them into round numbers. That is, 2¹⁰ =1024=1000+24, 2⁹ =512=500+12, 2⁸ =256=250+6. (2) subtraction should be avoided, and addition should not carry over (no overlap of the same digits). It is unavoidable that there is a single overlap in this problem.
@Pasan34
@Pasan34 11 ай бұрын
This cannot possibly be a math Olympiad question. This is way too easy.
@cppdeveloper
@cppdeveloper 11 ай бұрын
It's Math in Norway - not in China or USA or Russia. Their approach is like - "choose the only topics in science you want to learn because we think about you mental health in childhood". Study in China or Russia: "Ok, it's 23:00 pm - you can go to sleep for 3 hours. We will continue tomorrow at 5pm. That's why these counties win Olympiads 😂
@animeditstv2628
@animeditstv2628 2 ай бұрын
@@cppdeveloper yeah true, in my country, they teach us unnecessary subjects
@aisawaloki1571
@aisawaloki1571 6 ай бұрын
as a programmer, I have remembered many 2^x values without calculating them, for example, 2^24 is 16777216 and 2^16 is 65536. Oh yes, 2^18 is 262144, so if it is minused by 1😊
@Dhritiraj_Deka
@Dhritiraj_Deka 10 ай бұрын
This is how we make an easy mathematics question into a complicated one
@gamingnarrativesandstories1700
@gamingnarrativesandstories1700 11 ай бұрын
With the base numberof 2, it is easy to double the first at least10 - 12 times. And with pen and paper, you have no problem reaching 18. This is easily grinded out without fancy math shortcuts :)
@ilishasrivastava6166
@ilishasrivastava6166 10 ай бұрын
lol in India, we use an identity to do 511*513, it's basically, (x+a)(x+b)=x^2+(a+b)x+ab this eases out the calculation so you can do (500+11)(500+13) 500^2+ (11+13)500+ (11)(13) very easy calculations, you can do them in mind 250,000 + 24*500 + 143 = 250,000+12,000+143 =262,143 (we also have a trick to multiply numbers with 11 and rest of the calculations were pretty simple).
@pacogutierrez2484
@pacogutierrez2484 6 ай бұрын
how is the trick of multiplying with 11?
@ilishasrivastava6166
@ilishasrivastava6166 6 ай бұрын
if you have to multiply 11 with 13 just write the first and last digit as it is, that is 1_3, now the middle digit is going to be the sum of the first and last digit, that is, 1 and 3, we know 1+3=4, so 143 is the ans to 11*13. It's a very easy trick, you can solve such problems instantly in seconds@@pacogutierrez2484
@MoritzGruber7
@MoritzGruber7 10 ай бұрын
Some nice tricks, but what about, in this case, just calculating the thing? 2^18 = 2^10*2^8=1024*256=256000 + 24*256. The latter is 25*2^8-256=100*2^6-256=6144. So we get 262144; subtract one and you get 262143, with the "25 and we can make that 100, it's a power of 2" happening in one's head (if you don't get that, you can also easily calculate 1024*256 simply on paper). You would, of course, know the first 10 powers of 2 by heart (they teach that in school, just like the first 20 squares)... but then the solution represented also relies on the fact that you now 2^9=512 by heart. But then, squeezing in a binomian formular was rather beautiful. (I do mean that.)
@aumotion
@aumotion Жыл бұрын
we might know 2^18 = 2^(6*3) as being the number of RGB colors you can encode when each Red, Green, Blue color component has 6bits resolution (64 levels) and that number is 262144 ... at least people should know 2^10 = 1024 and 2^16 = 65536 ;)
@oneyearstranger
@oneyearstranger Жыл бұрын
Pragmatic reasoning.
@YourSource777
@YourSource777 Жыл бұрын
65537 is 2^16+1 is well know prime number.
@mkbachchan5664
@mkbachchan5664 10 ай бұрын
Probably the simplest and shortest way: 2^18-1=(2^9)^2-1=(512)^2-1 Applying Vedic Math: 512*512=524*5*100+144=262144 (which can mentally be calculated in about 15 sec) Therefore: 2^18-1=262144-1=262143
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 9 ай бұрын
Not to me. Growing up in the 70s and 80s, I learnt 2^16=65536 (max amount of memory addressable by an 8-bit processor with a 16-bit address bus), and later 2^17=131072 (start location in memory of the first screen of the Sinclair QL). Thus 2^18-1 = 2^16×4 -1 = 65536×4 -1 = 262144 -1 = 262143 or = 2^17×2 -1 = 131072×2 -1 = 262144 -1 = 262143 (This latter being the easier of the two.)
@johnfox2483
@johnfox2483 Жыл бұрын
Well ... first question should be, what kind of result is expected. Because 2^18-1 is pretty nice. 11111..11 binary is also good. It seems, that normal writing multiplying 513*511 is also trivial. And if I use pretty known fact, that 2^16=65536 ? Two addition and almost done.
@DandoPorsaco-ho1zs
@DandoPorsaco-ho1zs 6 ай бұрын
For those who are used to binary and computers, simply do 1024 (2^10) x 256 (2^10) = 262144, and subtract 1, or start at 65536 (2^16) and double it twice.
@biaohan4358
@biaohan4358 Жыл бұрын
Experts in computer hardware in 1990s to early 2000s should know 2^18=262,144 that's the amount of 256MB memory in KB that would show up during start up of a computer of Pentium II/III or Athlon era.
@esunisen3862
@esunisen3862 11 ай бұрын
it's 256 kiB or 262.144 kB.
@safakbas61
@safakbas61 8 ай бұрын
She has been trying to find the result of the 513*511 operation for exactly 2 minutes since 1:17 seconds of the video. If she writes these two numbers one under the other and multiplies them, she can get the result in 20 seconds.
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO
@QUABLEDISTOCFICKLEPO Жыл бұрын
It took me awhile, but I finally realized that this was quite an easy problem, and I thought that I might be able to do it in my head by simply doubling 18 times. Well, I didn't get that far on my first three attempts. but I now know that I can do it...eventually. How far did I get? Thirteen or fourteen times, but that was good enough for me. I now know that I can solve the problem in my head if I try long enough.
@swayam3010
@swayam3010 5 ай бұрын
Hey. Just take the tenth power of 2 i.e. 1024, multiply it by itself, and divide the result by 4.... subtract 1 from the resulting value to get 262143
@Plastik13
@Plastik13 Жыл бұрын
You can simply do a difference of squares : 2^18 - 1 = (2^9 + 1) (2^9 - 1) = 513 X 511 = 262 143.
@eliaslopez-cruz2854
@eliaslopez-cruz2854 11 ай бұрын
Easier decomposing 2^18-1 as a difference of squares, then as a difference of cubes times a sum of cubes . At the end: 63 times 73 times 57= 262,143
@nikitabiryukov2468
@nikitabiryukov2468 Жыл бұрын
How many people did not understand the beauty of the presented solution! 😢 Thank you for what you are doing! That was pure mind pleasure! ❤
@anatolykatyshev9388
@anatolykatyshev9388 Жыл бұрын
I did not understand. 2^18=262144 is not less known fact, that 2^9=512
@bumbarabun
@bumbarabun 10 ай бұрын
I do not understand beauty of writing (512+1) and then explain that it is 513 verbally. Thanks God she did not come with a substitute formula for that.
@jcb3393
@jcb3393 11 ай бұрын
I just know - from years of doing computer science work - that 2^10 is 1024 and 2^8 is 256. 1024 * 256 is really easy, because 1, 2, and 4 are just doublings of 256 and adding them in different 10s places. then subtract 1.
@ulisses_nicolau_barros
@ulisses_nicolau_barros Жыл бұрын
I love Math, I love your channel and I love you. Many blessings for you, from the heart of God. ❤
@LKLogic
@LKLogic Жыл бұрын
❤️🥰
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar
@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar Жыл бұрын
Did not know God had a physical beating heart. God is widely advertised as being beyond time and space.
@ulisses_nicolau_barros
@ulisses_nicolau_barros Жыл бұрын
@@MyOneFiftiethOfADollar In your conception of God, he doesn't has a heart. And your belief shall be respected. In my conception (Gospel), Yeshua is the image of the invisible God and Yeshua has a heart, hence God has a heart. This is my belief and shall be respected. Also, this is a Math channel, better not talk about such things. (Blessing people is a common thing, to talk about god in a Math channel not.).
@soljin1010
@soljin1010 11 ай бұрын
Much simpler to calculate 2*2*2*... iteratively in your head. Especially if you know that 1 Mb = 2^20 = 1048576 bytes
@spigknot
@spigknot Жыл бұрын
elegant but Id rather just calculate 2^18 and then -1 at most, do 512x512 -1
@RadenVijaya
@RadenVijaya 11 ай бұрын
Any old school computer scientist can answer it without by without even drawing on paper. 2^18 is close to 2^16, which is the limit of array size in an 16 bit OS. So its just 4x65536 - 1.
@Mike-mc5ll
@Mike-mc5ll 11 ай бұрын
I doubt "old school computer scientists" participate in math olympiad :)
@Bob_Ugee
@Bob_Ugee Жыл бұрын
This is where I learn my maths...
@wayneyadams
@wayneyadams Ай бұрын
I did this in my head a little differently, but it could be done on paper the same way. Binary numbers are easy to work with and from computer experience, I know that 2^8 = 256, so 2^9 = 512. So, 512 is squared by (500 + 12) x(500 + 12), we know that (a + b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2. The rest is trivial, 500^2 = 250,000. 2 x 500 x 12 = 1,000 x 12 = 12,000, and 12 x 12 = 144. 250 + 12 = 262, so we have262,000 + 144 - 1 = 262,143. If you are not familiar with binary numbers, it is a simple matter to count up, 2, 4, 8,, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512.
@joseguilhermelira9461
@joseguilhermelira9461 Жыл бұрын
Prefiro multiplicar 512 por 512 e subtrair da unidade Em duas linhas o problema é resolvido
@editorx2023
@editorx2023 Жыл бұрын
Ué... não dá mais de 2 linhas amigo? 4 se não me engano
@evandroa4845
@evandroa4845 11 ай бұрын
@@editorx2023 Sim, dá mais de 2 linhas, mas é muito mais rápido que a solução do vídeo. Dá pra fazer em menos de 1 minuto
@Vinicius_A_
@Vinicius_A_ 11 ай бұрын
Eu fiz 17 contas, mas multiplicar por 2 é muito fácil e rápido, saiu bem mais rápido do que no vídeo, e de certa forma meus neurônios ainda estão intactos
@editorx2023
@editorx2023 11 ай бұрын
@@evandroa4845 inacreditível
@MathProdigy-qg5gx
@MathProdigy-qg5gx Ай бұрын
Instead of calculating 2^9, you could just use rules of exponents and rewrite it as 8^3. In my opinion, easier to calculate. This is only if you don’t know the powers of 2 up until 9 or above
@scwor326
@scwor326 Жыл бұрын
i just love how apparently 2 to the ninth power is common knowledge.
@rcb3921
@rcb3921 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about common knowledge, but you can probably count it on your fingers in less than 5 seconds.
@thegreatgario3478
@thegreatgario3478 10 ай бұрын
2^10 is pretty common knowledge (it is how many bytes are in a kilobyte), so dividing that by 2 is pretty easy
@10-4CodyWade
@10-4CodyWade 8 ай бұрын
I just simplified in my head to 512^2 - 1. Pretty easy to multiply 512 x 512 on paper and subtract 1.
@AlanCanon2222
@AlanCanon2222 Жыл бұрын
It's a lot easier to solve if you just know your powers of 2 up to 18, as any decent computer programmer does.
@mater5930
@mater5930 Жыл бұрын
My point exactly
@beragis3
@beragis3 Жыл бұрын
Programmers who developed on the PDP-10 which had a 36 bit processor would know that 2^18 is 262144, 1000000 octal and 40000 hex. Especially useful when doing some register arithmetic on the left and right halves of the register in your head. I used to have to do that a lot at CompuServe in the 90's.
@cigmorfil4101
@cigmorfil4101 Жыл бұрын
​@@beragis3 I guess you were au fait with 6-bit (sixbit) encoding which allowed 6 characters in a 36 bit word?
@beragis3
@beragis3 Жыл бұрын
@@cigmorfil4101Yep 6 bit, 7 bit, 8 bit and 9 bit characters
@Barghaest
@Barghaest Жыл бұрын
Even if you don’t know them by heart… working out a power table for two is easy and I doubt they mark off for showing work.
@evefroggo4755
@evefroggo4755 5 ай бұрын
See if you play 2048 you’ll already have all powers of 2 memorized up until 2^11, so just take 2^9 as 512, square it, and subtract 1
@DeeDeifiesGayo
@DeeDeifiesGayo Жыл бұрын
We could just do 513x511 and it would be done so much faster ;-;
@eblan7689
@eblan7689 Жыл бұрын
I'd better do (2⁹)² - 1 = 512² - 1 = 262144 - 1 = 262144 The rest is not necessary.
@pugilemoltobene3708
@pugilemoltobene3708 2 ай бұрын
Now, to chunk it in head, multiply (1000 x 256) + (2 x 10 x 256) + (4 x 256) - 1 If you practice chunking, you can do complex math REALLY fast in your head. You’ll also start to be able to memorize really long strings of numbers…like pi! As a math teacher, my students are often dazzled by this; it’s really VERY easy!
@Gredddfe
@Gredddfe 10 ай бұрын
This one is hilarious. When I saw it I thought, surely you just solve it using arithmetic? But hey if there's a trick to working with exponents of 2 I've love to know it. No - you go through a convoluted process which gets you nowhere, then just solve using arithmetic anyway.
@valerykreidenko5562
@valerykreidenko5562 Ай бұрын
If you remeber that 2^10=1024, 2^18 = 1024x1024/4. The division first will bring ...6 (divide 24 only by 4), then 6 multiplied by 1024 will bring 4 as the last digit. Can be done in the head like 5 seconds.
@shibchau818
@shibchau818 Жыл бұрын
I wish you were my maths teacher when I was little! I would have definitely developed interest on Maths. You make the problems look so easy.
@robloxvids2233
@robloxvids2233 10 ай бұрын
262,143. I just doubled 2 seventeen times then subtracted 1. Did it in my head.
@marcinantonik4496
@marcinantonik4496 Жыл бұрын
Am I the only person that just did the math in my head and calculated the same result? I understand the method behind that, but you can easily just calculate the result in less than 1 minute.
@AnonyoZarifAkand
@AnonyoZarifAkand Жыл бұрын
Did you just 512*512?
@markalitheapprenticehacker
@markalitheapprenticehacker Ай бұрын
I did ut in my head too; I'm a programmer 😊
@FarFromZero
@FarFromZero 24 күн бұрын
For people from the C64-era this question is a very easy task, because they all know that 2^16 = 65536. So all they have to calculate is 65536 * 2 * 2 and then subtract 1. A matter of seconds.
@Cyrus_mitra.
@Cyrus_mitra. Жыл бұрын
maths which is the only thing can be done by various methods ❤
@delanym
@delanym 10 ай бұрын
Time to get a girlfriend
@Cyrus_mitra.
@Cyrus_mitra. 10 ай бұрын
@@delanym already have !! 🫠
@Samrathvk
@Samrathvk Жыл бұрын
Instead of going for FOIl 1:43 method.. just multiply 513*511 = 262143
@user-cf7ou7pd8q
@user-cf7ou7pd8q Жыл бұрын
Зная степени двойки(а в Российских школах дети это знают, так же как и таблицу умножения) вычислить этот можно за минуту. 2^10*2^8 - 1= 1024*256 - 1= 262143. Привет из России!
@Drak0sha13
@Drak0sha13 Жыл бұрын
Даже не зная степени двойки, проще на 2 умножить 18 раз
@Wolf-ln5mk
@Wolf-ln5mk Жыл бұрын
Идиот😂
@rafakrasicki914
@rafakrasicki914 Жыл бұрын
Explain something to me. How people with such abilities, educated, can support invasion on a neighbouring country? Or wait, maybe it doesn't matter how well one's educated in math... Regards from Poland.
@Wolf-ln5mk
@Wolf-ln5mk Жыл бұрын
@@rafakrasicki914 are you asking me?
@PaulGanarara
@PaulGanarara Жыл бұрын
можно еще сложить 2 + 2^2 + 2^3 + ... + 2^17, это гораздо математичней
@moazamsmachines
@moazamsmachines Жыл бұрын
I tired everything like G.P series Limits (calculus) Logarithms Binomial At the end all the results were in the power of 2 some even exceeding 2^18 😅 so its better to learn some power table as 2^10 always helps
@sophiamoratti579
@sophiamoratti579 10 ай бұрын
It is surprising that back in the 80-90s of the last century, almost all schoolchildren (at least in my country) in grades 6-7 were able to multiply 513 by 511 without a calculator and expansion. I think that in 20 years, schoolchildren will not be able to even multiply 500 by 500 without gadgets.
@reddeviliso
@reddeviliso 10 ай бұрын
i don't think that you are good at analyzing.
@JuanEstevaBHIARG
@JuanEstevaBHIARG 9 ай бұрын
I think you must have written your comment back in 2000... In my country, most kids in high school can't solve this.
@LC95297
@LC95297 8 ай бұрын
30 seconds, 6 lines and 6 columns of digits, it's all this calculus takes yet the number of children/students who can't make it as simply as that is exponentiating, so I'm afraid your conclusion is right.
@buket7777
@buket7777 8 ай бұрын
yes that's true ....easily multiplied
@mi.chal.
@mi.chal. 11 ай бұрын
Who works in IT knows that 2^20 is 1048576. So divide by two twice and you have result :-). It would be 256*1024.
@ZIN24031980
@ZIN24031980 Жыл бұрын
A very nice solution! Thanks.
@josemattos8689
@josemattos8689 11 ай бұрын
It's more complicated and longer. If i know that 2 to 9th is 512, just do the 512*512, minus 1.
@user-ks6mn3vg3j
@user-ks6mn3vg3j Жыл бұрын
U make it more harder than normal solution 😂😂
@opytmx
@opytmx 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier to multiply directly 512 * 512 = 256,000 + 5,120 + 1,024 = 262,144 and just to subtract 1?
@Bob_Ugee
@Bob_Ugee Жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@Santiago.Ag11
@Santiago.Ag11 22 күн бұрын
This is cool; using the mathematical principles that we already know in unorthodox ways is a good way to strengthen one's skills
@vidhyarajendran2263
@vidhyarajendran2263 Жыл бұрын
Mam... It is difficult to understand.please explain easily.
@thenetsurferboy
@thenetsurferboy Жыл бұрын
She only needs to put = under = and not bring a and b into it
@DoorKaRaahi
@DoorKaRaahi Жыл бұрын
Which part you did not understand?
@m.ichannel3248
@m.ichannel3248 8 ай бұрын
Its very simple you can solve it in seconds by a simple and no need of using formulas etc First method Power 18 Like 6*3 2 power 3 = 8 ( Now multiply 8 six times to get an answer) 8*8*8*8*8*8= 262,144-1= 262,143 Second method 2 power 18 6*3= 18 2 power 6 = 64 ( Now multiply 64 by three times to get an answer) 64*64*64 = 262,144-1=262,143
@danieldepaula6930
@danieldepaula6930 4 ай бұрын
Whenever you have x², you will get the same result if you multiply (x-t) by (x+t) and add t². Therefore, a way that I consider to be the fastest way to solve problems like this mentally is to look for a convenient (x-t) (or (x+t)). In the case, for example, to solve 512², the convenient (x-t) is 500. Therefore, the (x+t) is 524, and the t is 12. Therefore, 512²=500*524+12². Knowing that 524*1000 is 524000, just divide this by 2 to get 262000. Then, knowing that 12² is 144, we have that 512² is 262144. Finally, just subtract 1 and get to the final answer to the problem.
@isilder
@isilder 11 ай бұрын
2^20 is 1048576 , then divide by 4 and subtract one...
@marvaff6878
@marvaff6878 9 ай бұрын
Though there are many ways to arrive at a solution, this one really beat around the bush lol
@yvesdelombaerde5909
@yvesdelombaerde5909 11 ай бұрын
I do not see how this is more simple than 512x512-1. We all know 2^16=65536, so double it twice in a row and substract 1. More over 513x511 is quite obvious, 1x513 is obvious and everybody knows 13x5=65
@GaryBricaultLive
@GaryBricaultLive 10 ай бұрын
For us that knows our powers of 2 it can be simplified as: ( 2^18) - 1 = ((2^16) * (2^2) ) - 1 = (65,536 * 4) - 1 = 262,144 - 1 = 262,143 Of course one could also solve it using logs or even by using a slide rule!
@thevibetree1
@thevibetree1 6 ай бұрын
you can use congruence of numbers to solve this also a to the n and b to n identity
@mathiq56
@mathiq56 4 ай бұрын
I have math channel,watch please
@navidmohammadzadeh2141
@navidmohammadzadeh2141 11 күн бұрын
I'd write 2^18 = (2^3)^2^3 =(8^2)^3 = 64^3 = 64 x 64 x 64 = 262,144 ----> then subtract one unit, resulting to 262,143 :)
@sriramnivas5728
@sriramnivas5728 Жыл бұрын
It can also be written as 2^18=2^0 is equal to 2^18-which is equal to 262144
@Alexis-kg1sm
@Alexis-kg1sm 11 ай бұрын
Even without knowing powers of 2. It is very easy to produce them: 2^1: 2 2^2: 4 2^4: 16 2^8: 256 2^16: 65535 Then we use a combination of the above. 2^(16+2)=65535*4=262144 Subtract 1. This procedure scales quite well. Because its complexity is logarithmic. And we can easily combine any desired exponent. Proceeding with exponent 9 is also good. But it doesn't really bring advantages.
@user-qt4xk7hw7z
@user-qt4xk7hw7z Жыл бұрын
Why all the complicated brackets and splitting, adding, subtracting, changing powers? I don't understand any of it. Why doesn't she just go 2*2 18 times and the take one away? I got the answer that way by about 90 seconds and just needed my fingers to keep track of the multiples and my head to multiply by 2. Why make it so hard?
@bromissanjeevthakur7148
@bromissanjeevthakur7148 Ай бұрын
2power 12 calculate krna aasan hai Usk bad 2ki power 6 calculate kro. Aapas main simple multiply krk -1 krdo jo tarika aapne bstaya hai usse assan hoga (2^12×2^6)-1 (4056×64)-1 I have done this orally
@pavloskairis9994
@pavloskairis9994 8 ай бұрын
for computer people, 2^16=65536, mult with 4, sub 1 makes 262143
@soundappans6038
@soundappans6038 Жыл бұрын
Already we knew 2 power of 9 is 512..then 512* 512 is 262144..finally subtract 1 then we will get 262143
@juliocalderon2992
@juliocalderon2992 2 ай бұрын
On my own I got exactly where you got, using the identity: a^2-b^2 = (a-b) (a+b) = 511x513....then I just calculated this easy multiplication on paper
@sellmarriage
@sellmarriage 11 ай бұрын
Why not use (2^10)*(2^8) and then subtract 1? or (2^9)^2 then subtract 1? These calculation methods are very simple and fast.
@wolfgangroth6265
@wolfgangroth6265 5 ай бұрын
Exactly ! And you can Thilo this even without paper in your head
@lookseeseen
@lookseeseen Ай бұрын
took 2 steps.. 2 to 18 and subtract 1 from total. simple and quick
@Styckjunkarn
@Styckjunkarn Жыл бұрын
2 up too 18 is 524288, 2 minus 1 is half of 524288 is 262144
@igoranisimov6549
@igoranisimov6549 11 ай бұрын
So we "know" that 2^9=512, but we cannot find out 2^18=512^2 so we need to write a dissertation to calculate 2^18-1
@eduardofukay
@eduardofukay 8 ай бұрын
My answer. I would do ((2^16)*4)-1 2^16 = 65536. mutilply by four and subtract 1. In my assember years, we used to have 2 to the power of 16 by heart.
@saecula2391
@saecula2391 7 ай бұрын
I clicked on one of these math problem videos and now I get more and more math problem videos from KZbin that I have to solve omg
@frolstty
@frolstty 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, but It isnt olimpic way to do It. The better way I Saw the resolution is: 2^18 = 2*9 * 2*9 = 512*512 = (500+12)(500+12) = 500² + 2*12*500 + 12² = 250.000 + 12.000 + 144. Subtracting -1, we have 262.143 without a lot of multiplications
@ANDMATH2024
@ANDMATH2024 Ай бұрын
THANKS FOR NICE SHARING
@LKLogic
@LKLogic Ай бұрын
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@billcook4768
@billcook4768 10 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be easier to multiply 512*512 using grade school math and subtract 1?
@ruzgaryigitsak717
@ruzgaryigitsak717 Ай бұрын
2^18-2^0 First : 2^18 = 2^0.2^18 Second :2^0(2^18-1) (2^9)^2 = 512^2 Finally: (262.144-1).1 262,143.1 262,143
@unnatiarya6755
@unnatiarya6755 Жыл бұрын
U know what 2 to the power 6 =64 and now find 64 to the power 3 and subtract 1. Easy....
@buddysnackit1758
@buddysnackit1758 9 ай бұрын
I did via the bit representation 0xFFFF is 16 1's and you need 2 more so 0xFFFF + 0x30000 = 0x3FFFF which is the answer in hex.
@ThomasJr
@ThomasJr 4 күн бұрын
I prefer (2^10)^2 / 4 = (1000^2+2*24*1000+24^2)/4 = 1,000,000/4+12000+12^2 -> 262143 (minus 1)
@angelagonzalez8250
@angelagonzalez8250 Жыл бұрын
There is a way to find out what the last number is when dealing with equations that use large numbers. I vaguely remember it from hs
@nothing2believe
@nothing2believe Жыл бұрын
De tête, la réponse est : 111 111 111 111 111 111 (en base 2). Beaucoup plus simple 😅
@iaroslavbutyrin9343
@iaroslavbutyrin9343 10 ай бұрын
It can be quite easily calculated in mind
@mihaip1179
@mihaip1179 10 ай бұрын
2^ 16 is 65536, then you can just multiply by 2 two more times and substract 1.
@samyogaryal7534
@samyogaryal7534 Ай бұрын
Everyone knows 2^17 is 131072. We just have to double it to get 2^18 which is 262144. Then we just subtract one. Don't complicate simple things.
@shuvankr
@shuvankr 6 ай бұрын
2^18=4^9=64^3=64*64*64=262,144 That minus 1=262,143 Multiplication is cool, it doesn't bite you.. Try it for small numbers. 😉
@timlocke8588
@timlocke8588 11 ай бұрын
When I started in computing in 1965 we just new all the 2**N values up to n=32. and we knew that 2**N -1 was a stream of on bits.
@forcelifeforce
@forcelifeforce Жыл бұрын
*LKLogic* -- It is *not* solving for anything. It is simplifying a numerical expression down to one number.
@timothymallory8536
@timothymallory8536 7 ай бұрын
Outstanding presentation. Each step carefully shown. Precise terminology.
@aalborgfantasy
@aalborgfantasy Жыл бұрын
This solution method is like using a chainsaw to cut bread...
@betaorionis2164
@betaorionis2164 Ай бұрын
Seems easy to me. 18 = 3*3*2, so 2^18 = (((2^3)^3)^2) = ((8^3)^2) = ((64*8)^2) = 512^2 = 500^2 + 2*500*12 + 12^2 = 250,000 + 12,000 + 144 = 262,144 262,144 - 1 = 262,143 Solved by mental calculation in less than 30 seconds.
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