Load the Pocket Drill and how to feel the hit at 10

[@joshcallaway1555]

my guy! great explanation! TY!

[@_TDG]

Thanks!

[@JohnFnLopez]

Excellent descriptions and demo! Thank you.

[@_TDG]

Thanks, John!

[@Jaden_Kouba]

I tried this drill inside and it feels great. Can’t wait to take it to the field and start letting them loose. Subscribed.

[@_TDG]

Thanks! Check out the golf club vid too… theres really something to feeling the timing that way…

[@kruksog]

I really appreciate your instruction. I especially like that you give criteria to know when youre doing something right. Ill make form changes and then really struggle to know if what i changed was good. You do a good job making that unambiguous.

[@_TDG]

Thanks so much. Doing my best to focus on precisely that!

[@jonmagnusskancke9543]

good luck guy. And thank you for good tips

[@creativeflyfishing998]

I have been doing a similar drill for several years, but have only recently being able to replicate it during an actual throw. It has take a very long time for me to go from intellectually understand what I should be doing to being able to do it. Still have a long way to go, but the last two months (having played for >5) years I have been able to put the pieces together. It actually started from one of your videos! Also, all those years of practising with the correct idea but not being able to actually execute the movement how I would like to, is finally starting to pay off. When the foundation start to be better (run up, x-step coil etc.), now all those ideas that never worked suddenly start working. Just to say that as long as you have the correct idea, even if it doesn't work at the moment doesn't mean that it could not be very helpful some time in the future.

[@_TDG]

Same thing just happened to me! Another coach helped me level up my feeling and execution of bracing. I ‘knew’ how to do it academically, but by body didn’t know it yet…

[@paulebell]

I just bought an upper park shift bag a few weeks ago because of your itb video, and it is a wide margin the best bag I’ve ever owned. Cool that you’ve partnered up with them!

[@_TDG]

Thanks! I also had a really good customer service interaction with them and they seem like a cool company, so I decided to give it a go.

[@ryansteuart1932]

Every video is giving me a fix that I didn't even know I needed. The one leg drill clicked. I don't care if your videos last longer than bacon bits.

[@_TDG]

Well great! Ive tried to make bacon bits… literally cant do it. Thanks for the kind words. Really glad the channel is helping you out!

[@bustatron]

Appreciate the video, one note though - it seems to only be left audio channel and not both. I think this has happened on other videos too. Nothing game breaking but might be easy fix.

[@_TDG]

UGGG! Tried to fix it, accidentally made the video track (with no audio) stereo... instead of making the audio track Stereo. Thanks for the catch!

[@torymblue2000]

I like this, a bit poor timing, since I figured it out a week ago, while using my dogs flimsy frisbee.. I had been working on this in slow motion and when throwing the flexible frisbee, I could hear that double snap.. So if you have a flexible frisbee, it may be the next step after doing this drill motion for a bit to start training yourself!

[@MusicGW]

Hello sir can you show the grip

[@chadrobinson7234]

When driving with elbow, how much of that is done with the upper arm vs the rest of the body?

[@_TDG]

The muscles that move the upper arm (drive the elbow) are all in the upper and rear shoulder area. So its really the shoulder creating the elbow drive. But that can be relatively passive. Even when passive it still takes alot of muscle activation to just keep the angle of the upper arm stable as the shoulders rotate. But to answer the question: I would say the majority of the movement comes from trunk rotation and the shoulder musculature adds a small amount of power. It is surely better to focus on connecting the elbow to the trunk rotation at an intermediate level. Only when elite distance is a thing do you need to start trying to add much muscle power.

[@chadrobinson7234]

@@_TDG Thanks for the answer. I've been playing for about a year and still struggle to get past 250'. I have a lot of work to do.

[@wilmaterna4667]

heck yeah man! u got it! wish we could be friends in another life :D

[@_TDG]

Thanks! But I don’t know where I’m gonna be in my next life… we could just be friends in this one, maybe save some time?

[@benharrison5816]

OT Disc Golf had a similar drill they called the Windwaker drill where you hold the disc sideways like that, and set an empty water bottle at 10-o-clock and basically try to knock the water bottle over with the wind by getting the whoosh at the correct position. I haven't actually tried it yet, but was gonna give it a go. Did a similar kind of drill for ball golf where you hold your club upside down, and try to get the whoosh to happen where the ball would be, which can help with timing and lag. My current swing thought is to keep my hand on the outside of the disc as long as I can, or keeping the disc between my hand and my body with my forearm parallel to my chest, and curling my wrist a bit. I've found that when I focus on that, my elbow naturally pops out, creating more space for the disc, I get that out-in-out path of the disc that I want and I don't have to try to drive with my elbow because if my hand is on the outside of the disc, my elbow is out in front. Feels weird to me now but I'm working on it and will need to film myself again to see if I'm doing what I think I am. Looking for that monster snap. Cheers!

[@_TDG]

So in Josh’s drill the wrist is active in that it supporting the disc. That produces an entirety different feel. What Im going for here is just a conceptual understanding of exactly what you figured out: that the hand being on the outside of the disc is important. Whats also important is that how you get there matters. An active wrist curl will make your arm slower on the coil out because there is more tension in the system. May still totally work for you as a cue, but I feel the more looseness we can maintain the better.

[@_TDG]

Also in the video when I said I don’t send any intention towards 10, I meant literally. That is counterproductive to the timing concepts we want to feel. ‘Trying’ to fan air towards a bottle at 10:00 is definitely going to make you send intent to 10:00. Which actually shuts down your bodies ability to feel what we are trying to feel.

[@benharrison5816]

​@@_TDG Good point about keeping the wrist loose. I've only done some drilling and played one round with this swing thought, and I noticed I did feel a bit more tense and not feeling like I was throwing the disc as fast. It's a new motion my body needs to get used to, but I think the looseness will come with practice. I do think I was getting more spin because I had some personal best distances and they didn't even feel like fast throws. Main thing is I'm trying to fix my rounding/collapsed power pocket. I got the hand outside the disc/elbow out tip from a Kristian Kuoksa distance tips video. He be doin something right.

[@_TDG]

@@benharrison5816 yea that guy is amazing… if the cue works, use it! I agree looseness will work in with time if you nudge it in that direction. Sometimes a little bit of making a motion happen can help your body integrate the idea passively too.

[@1981jakehamilton]

Funny, never seen you at any competitions.😅

[@_TDG]

Why is that funny? Where do you compete?