[335] Burg Wachter Gamma 700 Picked

[@StefanAxelsson]

I have an ABUS dimple padlock that just won't open, because I haven't been able to rotate it manually. Two tensioners are hard to fit in that warding and I'm still waiting for some new tensioning tools. But, this video made me want to go home early from work and give this method a try. So, thanks for the inspiration!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Good luck with it!

[@SilentButDescriptive]

Fantastic. I always saw a false set as a positive. I never thought of skipping the pin which causes it and going around it.

[@bobbykeyz1263]

That is a beautiful lock. And I think all three of those techniques are awesome. Thanks for sharing with us.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks, and all of the methods definitely need a place in each picker's arsenal/

[@Goodywloss2010]

I think you have a burg employee watching, I've watched a few videos where you pick burg locks and each has 1 dislike.... haha

[@bozsbuzz6409]

Wow...That's a technique I never would have thouhgt of. Right now for where I am on the learning curve, I'm looking to get a false set, not avoid them! I'll have to try this on some of the spooled locks I already have. Thanks for alll the tecniques you showed in this one!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... having a few different options for attacking a lock is always helpful

[@brianhignett8954]

Hi Harry, Very interesting technique, I was given one of these padlocks by a friend of mine to "see how you go with this one". No luck after many tries. Finally made a snug tension tool from music wire and got lucky. First and only one I'd seen. Admire your " outside of the square " thinking on a difficult pick. Thanks for sharing. Regards, Brian.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks. This lock definitely surprised me with it's difficulty until I gave some thought to the problem. In retrospect, it seems pretty simple... if you can't get out of the false set, then do what you can to avoid going into a false set. But it took me several attempts at double tensioning and (loose fit tension tool) manual counter rotation before I stopped banging my head against the wall, and engaged my brain.

[@JessHull]

Oh wow! I never thought of this as a technique to use on other locks! what a great idea. I have an old yale pad lock that I had to do the same thing on. But just thought of it as a quirk of that singular lock. I would have never thought to actually consider it a technique. Thanks! what a good idea.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks, and good luck putting it to use!

[@feralwoodcraft]

Very nice! That rubber band trick sounds slick. And your way of trial and error makes total sense. I've always just twisted slightly on my pick if I need to counter rotate and the core isn't doing it on its own. it works OK but it's easy to overdo. thanks LPL!!

[@brianeaston007]

Yep thats what I do too. Works like a charm everytime. No need for rubberband gimmicks or double tension wrench nonsense.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I often use the same trick... it's very useful. The warding on this lock makes it particularly hard. When you twist the pick, you misalign it from the holes in the warding that you need to exploit. So you are forced to chose between rotating the core, and picking the pin. I hope that made sense.

[@feralwoodcraft]

That makes complete sense. I've already added a couple rubber bands to my kit. Thanks again!

[@ernie5229]

You've upped your game on this one! My solution to positive control in both directions on the tension wrench is to use hex keys. Cut the short leg to the desired length then file it, VERY CAREFULLY, in parallel with the long leg in a matter that when inserted in the top of the keyway it wedges itself in. You can't get better feedback than that! I have 3 wrenches of different thickness that cover 80% of common locks.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks. Custom tools are helpful, and I love picking with a perfectly fitted turning tools. But I try very hard to avoid that. Despite the fact that I don't pick locks in the wild, I like to try and attack locks with what is in my case only.

[@redcatimaging]

I've never seen a Gamma open that easy...simply WOW O_O. I did talk with Potti about getting a Gamma and who would get it open first, then he came up with his rubber band video ;) and I ended with breaking my favorite selfmade pick. And having many of the Burgwaechter locks up to the Gamma I did have to try immediately your technique. Honestly...if you have a half decent bitting on these, it is hard enough to get even a slim pick under the low pins and then avoiding a spool which gives you a false set is extremely hard (not to say impossible). It kinda did work for me on the 20th like try, but as easy as for you...no way ;). Fantastic video anyway and it once more shows your amazing skills :D.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Glad you got it to work. Not sure if you can see in the video, but I had to twist my pick around the warding to get it low enough to avoid touching pin 5 (the one that put me in a false set). I don't know if they get lower than that (this is the only Gamma that I've tried). Then I accidentally picked pin 5 as I was setting pin 6... so I definitely see your point about how hard it can be the avoid the very low set pins.

[@redcatimaging]

LockPickingLawyer looking at your key I think mine looks similar but 3 and 4 being just higher. Much more spools came into play and it really was very hard. Still think it worked "kind of"...;), but I'm way below your skill level ;). Yes I saw that you twisted the pick. This keyway exists also in smaller size and is hell to pick ;D.

[@rjperkins365]

3rd time I've seen this lock today. I've actually done that a couple times. When you run through the same locks a couple times you start thinking of different things to try. It's funny but the first time I figured it out it was groundbreaking in my mind. The double tension I do on cylinders in my vise, mostly on challenge locks with sharp threading. I use top of the keyway and I usually put in a tension wrench to fill voids. Then 1 day I used the heel of my hand on the bottom tension and have done it ever since. I do use music wire also so I can use just that for back and forth, when in a vise.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Me, VDE and Potti? Definitely lots of ways to skin this cat, and I'm a huge proponent of the "no wrong way" school of thinking (so long as the lock opens).

[@rjperkins365]

LockPickingLawyer hey just wondering if you are getting my emails I had a question on a euro I have. I know the make an Abus Pfaffenhain but do they make a GEGE Pfaffenhain because I just opened 1 up and it has countermilling and serrated pins that look like GEGE pins with the wide serrations. Don't know why I'm mentioning the countermilling but together with the driver pins it's just screaming GEGE to me.

[@rjperkins365]

Oh and it has the same freaking clip on the back. If you've ever taken a clip off a GEGE you know what I mean.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Randy Perkins Not sure... please send the email again. I don't recall seeing it.

[@LockNoob]

Some great advice and picking, thanks :-) I just picked my first (much easier) BURG Wachter this week

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... I'll catch up on my video watching soon. Been pretty hectic lately!

[@Potti314]

Awesome demonstration of this technique. I think it works best for excellent pickers like you ;-) Thanks for another fantastic video. BTW: You would have had fun with more spools if the bitting had allowed to get more spools to become effective.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks... this technique is not as hard as it sounds at first. The only thing is that you need to be comfortable picking spools before you are in a false set, which is a little unorthodox. As for more spools, there are at least 5 in there. I know because if you touch pin 5 first, the lock drops into a false set (in which case you might as well start over).

[@stephentwist]

Intelligent lock picking. Excellent explanation, class video.

[@uklockpickaUklp]

Very interesting concept, it's funny how techniques are developed, excellent video and a brilliant demonstration

[@NoctisMotus]

Interesting idea. Thank you for sharing. Always good to have choices. :)

[@lockpickinglawyer]

THanks, and agreed... choices are good.

[@danielroglich3309]

Great job picking brother. What a beautiful lock!

[@ricoo4723]

I love it when Americans say German words XD

[@heikopanzlaff3789]

Would not sound so suspicious if they would`nt ignore the Umlaute : Ä means ae, Ö means oe and Ü means - I think they got it. Than maybe notice that a ch means just h and not tsch. BTW " Wächter " translates to " guard " and " Burg " is castle what explains the little castle on some of their products.

[@siemensdammer29]

Börk wakta 😂

[@darthpaul123]

Awesome techniques. Didn't see Potti's video yet, gonna have to search for that one now!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks, and potti's video is definitely worth watching.

[@tonyholt90]

that's an informative video , I was glued to it ! excellent lpl.....

[@lmars5933]

nice lock .great video.THANKS for sharing. 😎😎😎😎😎 watch it 3times.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks. :-)

[@ovidasdas2917]

Nice!;i had a real nice time watching this, i hope one day i ll be abel to open such lock .

[@TheExtraktor]

I found this lock the other day without keys. Im looking forward to get it open soon

[@MultiVde]

Unbelievable, I am currently rendering this same padlock video :D Very nice job on picking it! :D

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Just saw yours. Nice job! These locks are harder than I expected.

[@pickbeard2690]

Another interesting technique to add to the arsenal 🤔😎👍👍 Thanks for sharing 😘😘😘👍

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@themadhatter4761]

Ingenious, thoroughly entertaining as usual 👍

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@JohnDoe-fn1me]

Great video once more :) Can you please tell us what was the Abus padlock you had in video? Thanks.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks -- it's the Abus 75ib/50 from video #240.

[@JohnDoe-fn1me]

Awesome, thank you Sir for taking the time to answer.

[@trekmaster30]

Great Technique! I'm definitely going to have to remember that one!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks

[@jimu57]

Nice German padlock. How hard is it to feel pin setting on this one?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Not hard to feel the pins setting at all. The problem is the keyway and getting the core to counter rotate, which is near impossible!

[@chefgav1]

Great picking again.always look forward to them

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@LiveLaughJordan-oi6tg]

Does the milling in the key tell us anything about the pins indicating a skip or a false set? I see the 5 cut on your key makes it seem like you could skip 5 - is our key a reliable roadmap?

[@JMLockpicking]

What pick are you using...have trouble getting mine into the keyway? Peterson #2 and I get a false set either pin 5 or 6 very good vid will try again tonight octopussy here I come.

[@jasminelognnes989]

Hmm. If 5 is binding how can you then skip it? Wouldn't nr. 6 be loose if 5 is binding? Which pin type would you say is in nr. 6? If it matter?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

I can skip 5 because all of the pins are spools. I can push past the spooled portion, and set the ends... that's why (if you listen carefully) you can hear two clicks for each of the pins I set. If you look at the key and consider the bitting, it may make a little more sense.

[@CHOPERUS23]

There might have been no driver pin in 5 that's all i can think.

[@Jason_Music]

@@lockpickinglawyer was pin 5 a zero lift pin then ? If I look at the key it looks like a high cut on 6, but so is 2. How come if all are spools you never get into a false set during the whole process. I don't get it. Anyway great video !

[@1864ourvidssuck667]

How do you pick the spools first? You would think pin 5 would be the only binder since it was presumably wider at the sheerline

[@lockpickinglawyer]

A spool is nothing but a standard pin with a center cutout. Think of it that way, and you can visualize how simple it is to set these pins “without binding.” It would be binding (or closer to binding) but for that center section. As such, once you press past that section, it’s a standard pin again. It’s particularly easy on a lock with nice tolerances like this one, since they all tend to bind at once if you apply enough tension. I hope that makes sense.

[@SnabbKassa]

Couldn't you put a flat end blunted tension wrench tip onto that finger and then encase the end and the finger in a rubber thimble?

[@Sicsicka]

Great skill passed on on I want to practice now thanks🧐💯✨

[@peterestall]

Nice technique, I'll have to give that one a try sometime.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks.

[@philthejet]

I was thinking of using a normal dual wrench.

[@6401ben]

Cool system I'll have to try sometime

[@DgaDM]

Most challenging on this lock was probably to pronounce "Burg Wächter" correct 😂

[@ex101jc]

I am always amused how english speaking people would try to pronounce it. Btw "Burg Wächter" could be translated into Castle Guard

[@SpeedDaemon3]

I wanted a secure lock...guess this one isn't either, also remember this video is from 2016 when LPL was a newbie compared to what he is nowadays.

[@Weretyu7777]

Do remember that he has a great deal more experience with locks than most people, and the time and money to hone his skills. He makes things look easy because, for him, it IS easy. Also realize that what he shows in his videos is kind of a "best case scenario" for the thief. Imagine him trying to get this lock open in the middle of the night, outside, in the cold, while it's attached to a chain. Trust me, it wouldn't be this fast.

[@koller8930]

I have the Gamma 700 as well but I didn't manage to get it picked yet ... I don't know what I'm doing wrong :(

[@rem45acp]

Why wasn't this gutted? Would have been interesting to see what the 5th pin was.

[@paulcrosdale9125]

well done, very innovative. is it a dead core?

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks, and yes... dead core lock.

[@paulcrosdale9125]

LockPickingLawyer you're welcome... they can be quite tricky when not in the vice(dead core),any way, very well planned attack.

[@areaofsight4868]

Can you try please Burg Wachter Alpha 800 ?

[@roysammons2445]

What a clever but simple technique. I say simple but obviously needs a lot of practice.

[@smuckerst8355]

What are good training padlocks

[@lockpickinglawyer]

American Series 1100... by far my favorite practice lock.

[@smuckerst8355]

Does the Bump Stop in that lock ( American 1100) work, I know its an option but does it work. Is the 1100 as good as it was before Master Lock co bought them in 2004.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Smuckers T I don't know enough to answer either question. All I can say is that all of the locks I have seen appear to be essentially the same. As for bump stop, I'm not much of a bumper, so I can't say.

[@smuckerst8355]

LockPickingLawyer are the rectangular Ace solid steel padlocks good

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Ace locks are a mixed bag. Can you name the model?

[@smuckerst8355]

www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1286414

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Smuckers T Sorry, but I've never tried that one.

[@kilometrekm]

This is simply mysterious. I've watched this over and over trying to figure out what happened: So does pin 5 function like a gatekeeper (on the second floor), allowing you to clear all other spools before finally dealing with it? but you didn't even pick it! Or did you accidentally lift it while picking pin 6?

[@dlevi67]

LPL accidentally picked 5 while setting 6 - he says so in a comment above (response to redcatimaging)

[@jeffmoss26]

another nice one!

[@lockpickinglawyer]

Thanks

[@robertwilliams8364]

Awesome

[@yoh.3230]

By the introduction and the length of the video you’d think the picking would actually take some time ⏰ 🤷‍♀️

[@fatdad64able]

More like: "Boorg-veshter". ( double o as in "look") Burg = castle, Wächter = guardian

[@kilometrekm]

A gutting after picking could have unveiled the technique better.

[@lockpickinglawyer]

It doesn’t come apart non-destructively.

[@kilometrekm]

No... while locks that can be disassembled don't have enough tolerances. Guess I'll just have to wait. Anyway, thanks for the presentation. It's really appealing.

[@SteefaTak]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqi5hWODrtacntU@@lockpickinglawyer

[@ericschimmel4570]

Komisch warum brauchte er so lange 🤔Warum hat der Superprofi Mr.Sirius dass Ding nicht aufbekomm🤔 sondern zerstört 🤗🤣

[@fabianspannhoff2329]

Even Google doesn't get the pronounciation right: translate.google.com/?sl=de&tl=en&text=Burgw%C3%A4chter&op=translate is much closer than the LPL, but the "er" right at the end is not spoken "tah", that is just sloppy (or modern) - you modulate the "e" to hint there is a "r" following. Quite like the LPL speaks it, he just has to work on the first "u" and "r"-sound, the ä-Umlaut and the voiceless "ch" like in "ich", not like in "Krach". Note that both "r"-sounds are different, the first is spoken, the second (almost!) isn't.

[@Mur-lock68]

Not very complex(high/low variation) bitting came into play here

[@fixingitrightish]

I accidentally did this the other day lol

[@SteefaTak]

Here can you see the lock from the inside if you interested ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqi5hWODrtacntU Guted/miled

[@Amaroq64]

You can't just put an Abus dimple lock on the screen and say "This one is almost impossible" and not tell us which model it was.

[@lockpickingpapa6351]

That was awesome buddy, I've bought one check out my channel. I'm going to be doing more professional type videos from what's on there just now from last year which i really only did for friends but it's how i started off, watching you and Bill so that I you guys.

[@FIGHTTHECABLE]

Is there a lock this guy can actually not pick? This is my lock, I paid a lot of money for such security.