How to Repair 4x4 Synthetic Winch Rope including Brummel lock-splice

In this episode of Lock your Hubs 4WDing, we show you how to repair 4x4 synthetic winch rope with basic hand tools.
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[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

What do you want to know about synthetic winch rope?

[@paulhillar1833]

Much better info than other tutorials! I love the info on the Brummel lock splice, and not everyone tells you how to do it. I'm a gunsmith, and tutorials I see on so called "complete D&R", are nothing more than a standard field strip! I've been doing standard twist rope splicing since I was about ten years old, my father gave me his Navy Blue Jackets Manual and 3 line is easy, but now I have more knowledge in my arsenal! Thank you!

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

You're welcome! If you've got the time, a locking Brummel splice is worth the extra effort.

[@Verb130]

The second half was the best I've seen so far on how to do a loop end repair.

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Thanks!

[@briankendrick284]

Thank you, very informative, I will redo my Brummel using your technic

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

It's a great splice, works really well!

[@MKlukowski]

Just had my line cut and thimble stolen. Thanks for helping out with the video. I'm back up and running...albeit minus a thimble :/

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Great! I remove thimbles (and hooks) from winch lines, it limits their functionality.

[@OverlandPNW]

Great video. I have snapped a synthetic winch rope and had to do this exact repair. Fortunately, I had the tool !

[@muzzaball]

Grandma's old knitting needle, and your brothers Chinese finger torture device!

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

It's a great tool, saves plenty of time!

[@samsullivan3992]

Thankyou for the very clear instructions on putting a new eye on the end of a winch line.

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Glad to help!

[@CantSitStillforREAL]

Awesome. I have a 200, and was tagged by an off-road trainer I know to watch it your CV replacement video. Now, I am a subscriber and working my way through your videos. Please, add more about winch line extensions, what sort of connections are strong, how to shorten a line to make use of less wraps on the drum, and anything else relevant to advanced winching and recovery techniques. GREAT CHANNEL!

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Thanks mate, I've got a few more winching related videos in the works.

[@SirFuseable]

I still prefer a thimble on the end of my rope. When I need to join the rope to an extension I use a soft shackle made from the same rope. Because a soft shackle is effectively a double rope, it will have at least 70% more strength than the rope itself, depending mostly on how the stopper knot is tied, so can pretty much be discounted as adding another potential point of failure. If for some reason I wanted a loop without a thimble I'd be using a sleeve instead.

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Probably a sleeve is a good addition. I still prefer to run without a thimble. I'm forever running out of shackles (both hard and soft) in more complicated recoveries.

[@SirFuseable]

A tip for those who might find themselves in a situation where a repair is needed but no fid at hand; grab yourself a stick and taper it down. Use that the same way sailors used similar fids for who knows how many hundreds of years. That Factor 55 fid would be nice to have but, like everything that company sells, they are incredibly expensive. I might see if I can get hold of a cable puller end with a similar "nest" and make my own. Failing that, maybe I can weave one from stainless steel MIG wire, as I just happen to have a small roll of that kicking around.

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

It's effectively a "chinese finger trap". In a pinch, I think a ball point pen case and tape would be my go too.

[@cooperken11]

Made my did from the end of an old ski stock😎

[@bennylloyd-willner9667]

Great, I've seen the regular fix done on several channels, but this Brummell thingy is need to me👍 (And I did click "like" twice, that's right isn't it?😊)

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Hahaha! Close enough.... :)

[@vlfreak]

well, i didnt even know the FID existed.. not that ive had to do it often, but i do it by hand.. same method, just with rope trimmed and taped to a stick or tent peg etc

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

The fid's much easier, though in a pinch, I've taped the rope to a pen. It works, but not great.

[@muzzaball]

taped to a stick - now THAT'S a field repair lol.

[@muzzaball]

Jeez Simon, where do your talents end? Really interesting and not really that difficult - says he who has not yet done it! Well I have my Dyneema, and I have the fourby, I just need to be on a gnarly winching hill and have a relatively bad day. Cheers for another great video mate.

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Thanks mate, if it's going to happen, it'll be at night, when it's raining...

[@muzzaball]

@@LockyourHubs4WDing Oh, so you have met Mr Murphy?

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

@@muzzaball met, I am best mates some times! I must tell the story of Matt and myself on a steep hill, at night, in the rain, 3 hours later..... The winch rope snapping was about the only thing that didn't go wrong!

[@Monty_NSW]

at the 11 min mark as you push through the loop....does it matter if that loop is pushed from either direction i.e. 'upwards' or vice versa?

[@MacShaulayShaulkin]

Honestly, the locking brommel is not much more effort or time than the trail repair, it seems. Why not just take a couple extra minutes to lock up the knot on the trail?

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Good point, and in field repairs that's what I do. Though it's a couple of extra steps to remember, and if you only repair 1 winch rope per year......

[@bencorbett3220]

Interested in how to join in the middle without bulking it to much as little brother snapped his

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

It'll be a little bulkier, though still small enough to use with most snatch blocks, it's on the list!

[@MiniLuv-1984]

Show us more!

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Of what?

[@MiniLuv-1984]

@@LockyourHubs4WDing Splicing everything - joining two together, making a soft shackle and tubing(?) them to stop fraying...what else can you show us?

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

I might start with the splicing the two halfs of the winch rope together. Keep an eye out for the episode coming up soon!

[@MiniLuv-1984]

@@LockyourHubs4WDing rappy tap tap...fingers tapping, waiting...whatever you show us is good enough for me. Thanks!!

[@nathanbeaulieu1534]

Would you just use a soft shackle to hook up to extension rope?

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

You could, though you would be better off joining the rope to extension use the same technique that you do when joining snatch straps. One less potential point of failure.

[@nathanbeaulieu1534]

Is it safe/ok to just use the hook on the winch to hook up to the eye of the extension? I'm new to winching..

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

@@nathanbeaulieu1534 while it's accepted, it's an un-necessary extra potential missile if things go wrong, I've never had a hook on any winch I've owned.

[@nathanbeaulieu1534]

@@LockyourHubs4WDing so basically would u recommend just an eye loop on the winch side with a soft shackle to connect to the extension rope eye?

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

@@nathanbeaulieu1534 yes, or even eliminate the soft shackle and join the two together as you would two snatch straps.

[@beanfrankednow5391]

Possibly 😭🤣 It's tosser gear for those with sponsors or no idea about 4wding

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Harsh, but possibly accurate!

[@Utah_Mike]

👍 🪢 If you can’t tie a knot, tie a lot

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

Haha!

[@steveweller7032]

Where do I get that rope needle.

[@LockyourHubs4WDing]

That one's affect of 55 unit so anywhere that sells factor 55