Logic Pro vs GarageBand: Is it Worth the Money? (review)

[@JustWriteMusic]

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[@kiddynamite3931]

Thanks man. From what I can tell it's about as easy to used as GB? with almost as many features as Studio One. I think I will be making the change. I'll check it out. You're right about the limitations on GB, but it's a pleasure to use

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! Absolutely, how the program affects the creative flow is huge. Having a UI that gets out of the way helps people writing in a DAW make the music come alive 👍

[@JeremyFlick]

Couldn’t agree more!

[@pakoti96]

I love this style of video. No annoying background music used as a crutch, all good points coming from personal experience instead of parroting generic opinions.

[@JustWriteMusic]

AHHHHH such an amazing comment!! Thank you so much. Please share with other awesome interested folks like yourself :)

[@FancyFeast3]

The jump to from garage band to logic was pretty nice for me. I tried DAW's like Cakewalk, Cubase, FL studio, and I've seen Ableton used. Logic has the most user friendly interface if you ask me.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Couldn't agree more

[@summersbrother]

I got super overwhelmed by using Logic the first time, and I've been making music with Garageband for about a decade. Never felt the need to move on, but it is good to know what I might be missthe ing, thanks for

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much! Happy to help :) That awesome! GarageBand is perfectly usable for 90% of musicians who aren’t interested in audio engineering.

[@joshpinedo355]

Using garage band Even though I have logic to lol 😂

[@miramarensis]

I run GB in my iPad Pro and love it. In fact, I was told that many hits we hear on the radio or online were created with the iOS version of GB. It sounds that good without the major complications of Logic Pro.

[@JustWriteMusic]

That's great! It's a fantastic option. There for sure are hits out there made with GarageBand on iOS, but that's also a little misleading to say, because anything backed by a major label will be mixed and mastered by top-level professionals. That being said, we can use GarageBand to get 80% of the way there, which is absolutely incredible! I've been asked to do some GarageBand for iOS tutorials in the past. Is that something you'd also be interested in? Thanks so much for commenting 🤘

[@Steve31000]

@@JustWriteMusic Sure, but it also depends on the type of music you are producing. If it's something that is heavily produced (like a lot of pop, r'n'b,hip hop etc.) then of course something more 'tune-able' than GB is better and will be necessary, but if you want a more acoustic/rock/indie vibe or an 'honest' true to life recording with an authentic sound, then GB can really be enough!

[@JustWriteMusic]

That’s absolutely true! Especially for drums. It still blows my mind how natural versatile virtual drummer sounds. I never shut up about it, ask my partner, haha! Could I ask you a couple a questions? What’s your biggest frustration with writing music? What’s your biggest hope or dream for writing music? Thanks so much! I want to level-up my videos and am trying to make a relevant and quality content as possible that will help the max amount of people I can.

[@normapadro420]

I kept researching on loudness, and effects that certain music has. Most of the music don't have to be loud so using compressions, or bass is not going to be that useful. The loudness is controlled when the music is distributed. I tried expensive DAWs, and decided to use the ones that work well with creating. It's a good idea to learn everything you can about the DAW before you use it. Learn about the effects, and how everything sounds so that when you're ready to record things will sound right. People asked me what DAW I use, and they say oh. It's what you do with sound creations that matters, not the software.

[@JustWriteMusic]

You’re absolutely right. Thanks so much for your comment! I’d only disagree with you on compression - making something loud isn’t the point of compression; the input and output signal from a compressor should be the same loudness; gain is for loudness. Many compressor come with a certain amount of gain pre-added, which can cause confusion like this. Just my 2 cents. Thanks again!

[@jrusovich]

I use GarageBand for all of my work and then pass it on to an audio engineer who refines/mixes/EQ's it all in Ableton and/or Logic. To me, the simpler the DAW the better as all the engineering gets in the way of the creative process for me. Thank you for the very informative and unbiased take on these two Apple DAW's.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Couldn’t agree more! personally I have a very bare bones set up for that exact reason. There’s actually a “simplified” version of Logic Pro you can turn on and off in the settings to give you a sort of middle ground between Logic and GarageBand. thanks so much for the kind words! glad the video could help :)

[@ChasMusic]

Fine description of the differences. As I noted in a comment on another of your videos, I graduated from Garage Band to Logic Pro because there were some things I couldn't do in Garage Band. (It's been several years, so my memory could be failing me, but I believe it had to do with either music notation or changes in tempo and time signatures within a piece.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much!

[@24kCookieMusic]

I do rap music and lot of garage band plugins are enough for me only use few external ones and for voice mixing garage band is completely fine.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Yeah man that's what's up. If it works for you keep using it. You only need to upgrade to Logic if you start getting more into editing audio and need some more flexibility with sounds n stuff

[@MarcusV741]

I always want a raw, acoustic, live, real sounding music.. and Garage Band delivers all the time.. for me

[@JustWriteMusic]

I agree!

[@rumble1925]

Garageband plus the free Native instruments plugins has been great for me. I used to produce music 20 years ago, the best things I did was in Reason. The limitations of not even having plugins or externql vsts made me a better musician and producer. Today Im getting back into it, using my digital piano as a midi synth and bought a maschine mikro mk3. Love it so far

[@JustWriteMusic]

Limitations breed creativity :) It's so much more important to build up the fundamental production and writing skills than have a bunch of expensive gear. It's crazy how easy it is to fall into the gear hole, but it sounds like you've got your head on straight 🤘

[@aryansingh8479]

oh man, I saw the complete video and it sounded really good to me, and then i was shocked later to see your subscribers, you'll definitely gain success here on youtube

[@JustWriteMusic]

Dood. That means so much, thank you. I haven’t won over the algorithm yet, but I’m not going anywhere 🥲 Thanks again for your kind words and comment! Really needed that today haha 😂

[@dolores6321]

Great content very good quality. straight to the point, honest and realistic comparison. a pleasure watching and learn from your videos. Very informative

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much Dolores, that means a ton! You can actually help me make better videos! Just answer these 2 questions: 1. What’s your biggest frustration with writing music? 2. What’s your biggest hope or dream for writing music? Thanks so much!

[@mistahbDeCalifornia]

I'm getting Logic 👊💯. Ableton is not working for my brain, too much stuff... I want simple like GarageBand

[@JustWriteMusic]

Awesome! 👍

[@carltonlarsen]

Latency control and the mixer view. Now that I know about those, the decision has made itself. Time to go get Logic Pro.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Solid! You won't be dissapointed. Thanks for commenting! 2 Questions: 1. What's your biggest hope or dream for writing music / your writing process 2. What's your biggest frustration with writing music / your writing process Thanks so much! Trying to make better videos people wanna watch that are more about writing and less about audio :)

[@Emet.V]

I prefer GarageBand, Plug and play get it done ,that’s what I like about the daw. Also the free plug ins and loops it provides you are A1 great. I have been recording and making music for 14 years. I honestly don’t see me using anything else.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Totally hear you there! It’s got a ton of value! Question: 1) what’s your biggest frustration with writing music? 2) what’s your biggest hope or dream for writing music? Trying to make better videos. Research! Thanks so much for commenting 👍

[@Emet.V]

@@JustWriteMusic 1) I’m not really frustrated with writing music at all. It comes really easy for me. I am very patient with myself writing music. 2) Is to continue on making music.Have my music stand the test of time.

[@JustWriteMusic]

@@Emet.V Awesome! Thanks so much for answering. I feel you on that. Have any tricks you'd like to share about staying on top of writing?

[@Emet.V]

@@JustWriteMusic 1)just start with a tempo/time signature or Idea you have, have no judgment or reservations about what your working on (till completion), you can review after you feel that you are done. 2)If it sounds good to you, go with it. 3)Make sure you are into and in tune with what you are working on. 4)Use tools that you are familiar with and master them. Makes the writing,recording,process,mixing,mastering a lot faster. 5)Record what you want to hear 6) What you write might not move you, in addition to that it might move some else that needs to hear it. 7) Tell the people what you feel and what you think when you writing music.

[@JustWriteMusic]

These are great tips. Thanks so much for sharing!

[@stansmith7445]

I’ve been using GarageBand for years and have been looking into using a more professional program. Logic seems like the best choice for me from a familiarity standpoint.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Yeah I think Logic is your best bet from that standpoint. That being said, most DAWs operate essentially the same way, so don't be afraid to experiment with some free versions of other DAWs like Studio One, Ableton, Pro Tools, etc. You may find one that just clicks for you. Also Logic is great, comes with a ton of solid virtual instruments and stock plugins and is an industry standard for production, recording, and songwriting for a reason. If you've got the budget, it's a great move.

[@digitalsketchguy]

You can always bounce everything over to Reaper & use a good channel strip plugin like Waves SSL

[@JustWriteMusic]

Yeah, but if you already have Waves SSL, the DAW you're putting it into is less relevant if that's the only processing you're doing to it. Unless I'm misunderstanding your comment?

[@PrisonLaParis]

Great video, been debating the comparisons for a while but now I know lol. Anyways, cheers and thank you!

[@JustWriteMusic]

Happy to help!

[@macintune]

I enjoyed the video and found the information and your perspective helpful so Thanks! retired 2018 and started recording in garage band. I purchased a focus-rite Scarlett 212 ver 3. I wondered if upgrading would provide additional benefits in my case so the question of “what 3 things” am I missing was perfect! GarageBand is right for my needs. One thing to share is, I have purchased Scuffham S-gear plug in and it has been a great addition to guitar tones.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much for this comment! I'm happy you got something out of it :) That interface you mention is perfect, the only reason I'd look into an upgrade is if you need more i/o (inputs and outputs) than 212 has. Thanks again!

[@lenglain8230]

Most people just buy VSTs instead of using stock sounds anyway so the question is whether garageband has the same workflow features that Logic does. How stripped down is the sequencer/piano roll compared to Logic?

[@JonathanAmesPhD]

Still not sure, though thanks. I compose lyric-dependent acoustic songs, and overdub acoustic bass, sometimes dobro, and/or Weissenborn, as well as harp. Never mastered drum midi because I change tempo so frequently. I also make relaxation recordings -- all totally on audio -- midi overwhelms me (I'm 77). So I've wondered if Logic can really enhance voice quality in a way beyond "smart controls", eq, etc. Same with acoustic guitar quality -- can a stock Martin dreadnaught become a Collings? While there are guides for Logic, can't find one for mastering (in both senses) Garageband, fully utilizing what's there. Started on Tascam cassette daw; certainly miss mixing board! Thanks again!

[@JustWriteMusic]

I think it'd probably be worth the upgrade to Logic for your situation. Even the fact that there's more guides out there to help you get the sound you're looking for may be reason enough. GarageBand is an amazing piece of free software, and because of that, it's got limitations that can sometimes make simple things harder to do than necessary. For example, in GarageBand, you apparently can't change the meter/time signature mid song. Maybe it's changed since I've made this video, but that's a dealbreaker for me as a progressive player. But you can change the tempo of a song and automate it in GarageBand. Ultimately, if you'd like room to grow with less limitations, go for Logic. That being said, it sounds like there are still some things you have yet to discover in GarageBand, so ultimately, I'd say to just keep at it, keep learning, and eventually it'll be clear that you've outgrown GB based on what you want to do in your music. Hope this helps!

[@MxGouda]

What if I have experience writing music but just not on a computer?

[@JustWriteMusic]

Use GarageBand and connect your instrument to the computer via a usb audio interface. Just make sure you can play to a click :)

[@nicholasdevora1534]

great video mate. i had no idea what ive been missing out on. ive been using garageband for years /x)

[@JustWriteMusic]

Glad it helped :)

[@Koz_Dany]

I like your funny words, magic man. I'll stay on the simple side I think. I usually record 4-5 instruments and add 1-2 tracks of vocal. I don't want nor need all the "intangibles" that Logic Pro seem to offer. I haven't seen a concrete example in your presentation or "real life application" . Not judging your skills and you explain stuff very well, but I basically want to record good takes, copy paste the good bits, copy pan left right the mono tracks, adjust volumes and basic filters, and export to mp3 :). I absolutely HATE looking for "how do you copy-paste this bit again?" or "where's the volume marker thingy again" ? I actually have a Logic Pro key and now i'm not even sure I want to install it hahaha

[@JustWriteMusic]

I hear ya man. Thanks so much for commenting! Could I ask you a question? 1) what’s your biggest frustration with writing music? 2) what’s your biggest hope or dream for writing music? Thanks! Trying to level up my vids :)

[@Koz_Dany]

@@JustWriteMusic The biggest frustration for me is finding the time needed to sit down when i'm inspired. Having kids is great but it does limit the "alone creative time". What I love is when my 5YO comes with me to sing cover songs or improvise some lyrics and I put music on top of it. Not a frustration, but it would be awesome if it was easy to start a project in GB and not be attached to the BPM. I start at 100BPM and then later realize it sounds better at 75 but I haven't found how to slow it down without changing the notes. Maybe you can help haha. My biggest hope is to put out a song that some people like and listen to. I mostly do covers now and try to re-arrange my favorite songs in a new way. I only output on soundcloud. CHEERS!

[@JustWriteMusic]

Amazing! Thanks so much for your answers. Yeah that’s a tough one. Best thing you can do there is make sure you keep a writing schedule. Inspiration initiates a flow state, but we can also initiate by just sitting down to write. Even short frequent 30min sessions can be quite productive. If you can do that 3-5 times a week, you’re golden. Efficiency is important here too. That’s 100% doable! And you’re already doing the right thing by recontextualizing the music you live. Do more of that for sure. Be careful not to stand in your own way here. Sometimes we have to put up with and finish music we’re not in love with in order to write the music we are in love with. I call it writing “bad” music, so go write and finish some of that! Detach your expectations and enjoy the process. You’ll naturally have some songs rise to the top as your best work. This is a common method artists use to write albums you know and love. Follow their lead :) Hope this helps. And thanks again!

[@Koz_Dany]

@@JustWriteMusic i'm 52 and the dream of becoming big is long gone. But I do look back on some of the stuff I did and smile. That it itself, is reward. My favorite remake is Brain Damage by Pink Floyd which I recorded playing piano playing with effects and singing at the same time in one take. (added the "staple" demonic laughter after in post edit) I still love this version and know that in my heart at least, it's perfect.

[@JustWriteMusic]

That’s 100% true. Being big has nothing to do with it, it’s about the joy of the craft. You seem to understand that already :)

[@lukevisserchappaqua9314]

Great overview! Thanks for sharing.

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! Thanks so much for commenting :)

[@typingcat]

$200 isn't that expensive but can the $200 software alone create actual music, like that of Japanese animation openings, not some Karaoke-like music? Doesn't one have to buy a lot of other auxiliary modules, extensions, third-party tools, etc to be able to do that? If so, how much does it actually cost to have all those things?

[@JustWriteMusic]

Amazing question! You’re right that oftentimes music producers and engineers do use third party plug-ins; however, those aren’t completely necessary. Most DAWs these days come with a suite of stock virtual instruments and plug-ins. Thing is, they’re very very usable, especially for those at or best the beginning of their journey. So, truly; you can release professional-sounding music with just Logic; even just GarageBand, honestly. In this case, it’s more about learning to use the tools and building your skills, as opposed to what gear you have. So no, you don’t need fancy plug-ins and external hardware to make pro-quality music. Those tools may make it easier to some degree, but it’s far better to learn to use the stock tools, build your skills, and slowly build your third party library based on your specific musical needs and growth. You should have a reason to buy it, and know why it’s better than the stock one, if there’s an equivalent. All that being said, even with the most expensive gear and the best trained engineer, our music is only as “good” (read: skilled) as we are. Audio folks like to say: “you can’t polish a turd.” This refers to both the quality of recording, which is independent of a DAW, and the quality of the musical material as it becomes a whole. These tools don’t create the music, we do. I hope that rambling rant helped in some roundabout way 😂🫡

[@imu75]

I’m a beginner… I do play arranger Keyboard but i want to start making music via MiDi … I believe GarageBand will do the job

[@JustWriteMusic]

It 100% will and is a great beginner daw to get into it. Plus it's free, so there's literally no downside. Go download it and come back to lmk how you like it :)

[@allsome1o1]

I personally don’t see a point in getting Logic because I buy VSTs and just use them in GarageBand. Is there a reason I’m missing as to why I should upgrade? Also I do own Protools (it came free with my interface) but I couldn’t understand how to use it so I dropped it

[@JustWriteMusic]

The VSTs will allow you to use the same 3rd party tools you would in logic. However, Logic becomes a necessity when audio editing. GarageBand editing capabilities are not very robust. Solid editing can mean the difference between a pro sound and an amateur one

[@JustWriteMusic]

yeah I left Pro Tools like a decade ago, as it's better suited to straight audio recording and production, as opposed to songwriting, composition, and production, like GB and Logic is

[@davidbrooks4870]

Great video...helpful in making the decision...I think you made a good case for LP for those like me who have some GB expereince.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much and thanks for commenting! Happy to help :)

[@pd1jdw630]

I only wished that GarageBand would be able to monitor two channels. A guitar and a mic. Even if it’s just for the learning.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Yes; that’s one of those really strange limitations that is probably pushing people into pushing people into paying for Logic. However, if it’s an acoustic guitar and a sparse track, it’s not uncommon to record the guitar and voice as one track using one large diaphragm condenser mic. Otherwise, you just have to record the tracks separately, which isn’t bad thing either. actually, if you’re used to singing and playing together, this helps you understand what you’re doing with a bit more focus. _rant.exe terminated ☺️

[@pd1jdw630]

@@JustWriteMusic but it’s absolutely annoying when you’re trying to learn to sing and play a song. As for in a cover band. Have a good one!

[@Zoso7227]

I have a Scarlett interface and use GarageBand. In your opinion, what would make my sound better. A better interface or DAW. I just don’t like how it sounds. Especially when I use the captor X. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much for this awesome question! While I don't have experience with the Captor X, it looks like its a really specific piece of hardware; like an IR loader that's meant to be put in front of the speaker connection of an amp, which means you need an amp that's not hardwired into a speaker, like most budget combo amps. Ultimately, this isn't a Scarlett or GarageBand problem, those are great pieces of equipment; i'd wager you need to look at your signal chain and fix whatever issues you find there. Hope this helps!

[@TAVCE]

This is a really helpful video and answered many of my questions! I am 15 and have been using GB to articulate my ideas and write some small stuff for about 2 years now but I have never really explored recording vocals, mixing, plugins etc. which is mainly because I am a massive perfectionist but is also because i feel limited as I don't have the tools that will enable me to achieve the sounds that I wan to hear. A big one for me is orchestral sounds (especially strings) as they are very influential on the kind of music I listen to and like to make. Having recently purchased a MacBook Pro of my own and being pretty set on getting logic when I can I was just wondering if you think this would be beneficial for someone like me who wants to start writing and producing hoping to eventually be able to create music mostly independently (meaning without a producer). I also want to ask if even if I got logic if I would still need to pay a lot extra in plugins and instruments etc or if I could mostly use it as is. Thank you

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much for this awesome comment! Congrats on getting into all this, and welcome! To answer your question, yes; to produce professional sounding orchestral tracks, you will eventually have to pick up a library of orchestral samples. Now virtual instruments that come in logic aren’t awful, but they’re by no means production quality out of the box. That being said, you can get serviceable sounds out of them, it just takes some elbow grease and know-how. I recommend diving in with the stock stuff and use them help to learn audio/MIDI and the program. Then when you’re ready to upgrade, you’ll be able to use the high quality 3rd party samples to their greatest effect. Ultimately it’s our skill as musicians composers and engineers that make it all happen, not the samples. Same deal with plugins, the stock stuff is great, better than the orchestra samples relatively speaking, and it’s a good idea to use the stock plugins and learn how to use them conceptually so you know what you’re doing and understand what you’re looking for when you go to buy. Hope this helps and thanks again for your comment!

[@TAVCE]

@@JustWriteMusic Thank you so much fro this reply! That's really helpful and good to know that it would be worth the upgrade!

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! Thanks again for your comment and your attitude. Keep it up and you’ll do great. Just keep writing and write as much as possible! Especially for orchestal stuff. One of the biggest problems with new composers in DAWs are not knowing how the instrument is used or its qualities. Even just one instrumentation /arranging course will go a very long way in this regard

[@TAVCE]

@@JustWriteMusic that’s really great advice! I find that finding a song that I really love and trying to replicate it as accurately as I can in garage band really helps with this as well - learning how different instruments work and their limitations. I will definitely try to find something like that and thanks again for your videos and your engagement with your audience. Great channel!

[@JustWriteMusic]

You’re right that’s a fantastic exercise! I used to do the same. My replication of Gangnam style was NOT GOOD haha. Thanks so much for your kind words. Helping is why I do this. Please spread the word or share a video, we gotta grow this thing! :)

[@DJMoonlightKonamare]

Maybe I should download and play around with GarageBand as an Ableton and (somewhat) Logic Pro user...

[@JustWriteMusic]

Depends on your experience level. If you already have some skill and know logic well enough, stick with that. There's even a "reduced" version of it which acts as a solid transition between the two. Gonna put it in my update video...unless I already talked about it and don't remember haha

[@DJMoonlightKonamare]

I actually found that my external AU plugins don't work in GarageBand (Nexus, Sylenth1, Serum, and Kontakt).

[@JustWriteMusic]

@@DJMoonlightKonamare Really? Try revalidating them; they should work. This is giving me a video idea haha

[@johnnylektric]

I know this is a 3-yr old video now, but I beg to disagree with the notion that GB is for "beginners" only. Obviously, Logic is industry-standard and if you have any sort of advanced recording experience, then of course, you should go for that instead, but it doesn't mean you can't make a professional product using GB. In terms of lack of plug-ins, you already gave the answer by saying you can easily download and use free plug-ins that would address the stock issues. With the noise gate and compression, you can maybe try the stock dynamics processor. Also, how long ago did you start with GB? Cos I started in 2008, stopped almost a decade ago, and just now checking the new GB, and it's so wildly "advanced" now compared to when I started that I wanna get a new Mac just for it. The features you mentioned that used to be there weren't there ages ago... but of course, at the time, it was "advanced" already.

[@JustWriteMusic]

oh yeah, 100% you can make a pro release with GB, it’s been done by high level industry artists. if I said it’s just for beginners, that was incorrect. I meant it’s best for beginners due to the simple interface and since it’s free with solid stock VSTs (especially considering some of the competition) I honestly can’t believe it’s still free. I did check out GB at the time of this videos release, but not much since as I’ve been using logic since 2010, GB since 2008, same as you. I also apparently am suffering from the Mandala Effect with this old mixer window in GB because everyone says it wasn’t there haha thanks for this comment!

[@johnnylektric]

@@JustWriteMusic Appreciate the video and the reply! I have not opened GB or Logic in years, and I have just started reacquainting myself with the new versions the past few days via your YT videos and others, and it's just mindblowing how advanced it is and like you said, FREE!! Thank you for your video contributions! It is greatly appreciated!

[@JustWriteMusic]

@@johnnylektric of course! so glad I could help, that means so much. Keep at it - the only way forward is imperfect action! 🤘

[@z2kk]

Great vid. I learned what I was looking for. Thx!

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much! Glad you got what you were looking for. And thanks for commenting too🤘

[@JustWriteMusic]

Hey Zakk! I was wondering if I could ask you a couple questions: 1) What's your biggest frustration with writing music? 2) What's your biggest hope or dream with writing music? Thanks so much!

[@jamwithcamcamryn]

final thoughts are at 15:30 thank you for this!!!

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure!

[@RoyLouden]

In Garageband, I use the included Apple AU plugins over the regular included plugins you speak of.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Like the old old ones? That’s cool man, those are still really useful tools! Keep on keeping on. If you get a good sound with those, by the time you go looking for a 3rd party plugin, you’ll know what yours looking for and why :)

[@RoyLouden]

New. I have M1 iMac. I mentioned the Apple AU plugins because many people don't even know that they are there. My only 3rd party plugin is Baby Audio Crystalline... outstanding reverb.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Nice!

[@noelgourdin81]

Hey my Man, I enjoyed this vid. I'm a National recording artist and I record my vocals in GarageBand flat and send my vocs out for post. I have a Rode K2 Tube Condenser mic, a focusrite and my iPad Pro. I've heard many times that technically GarageBand is up to par with industry standard as far as recording vocals dry before post of course. Would you agree? And is there anything else I can do to step up my vocs quality before they go out to post? Thanks again!

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much, that means a ton! Ultimately, yes I would agree with that statement. Think about it this way, the iPad with GarageBand and a computer with Logic Pro are both receiving the same signal, so the same recording should be identical, whether the focusrite is plugged into iPad right GarageBand or Mac with Logic or any other DAW. That being said, GarageBand may have some built in limiters working in the background (don’t know for sure, hopefully someone can chime in with that info). Things like that can effect the incoming signal. To avoid that, and the main tip I’d give out is to make sure you record at conservative levels; try averaging (RMS) around -18 dbFS with peaks no higher than -6 to -3dbFS. Plug-ins meant to emulate analog gear are made to have an incoming signal around -18dbfs; so if you’re engineer is mixing in that classic analog flavor, you can get a slightly more polished sound at the source that way. Learning a little about gain staging will make your engineer love you lol Finally, keep learning and growing as a musician and performer. Learn to “work the mic”, support your breath, and bring dynamics into your performance. I don’t doubt you’re already doing this, especially at the national level, this is more cookie cutter singing advice. I think that’s ask for now. Thanks again for your fabulous question and I hope this ramble helps in some way!

[@kiddynamite3931]

Even for recording a full drum kit GB is great. I purchased Studio One pro for my 1st DAW. Although I hope to eventually use it, that was a mistake for a 1st DAW

[@JustWriteMusic]

Totally. GB is really very capable, but it does have some limitations. Yeah Studio One isn't super user friendly, but I also haven't used the newer version yet

[@50bandzent40]

Garage band never had a mix window, Only thing i LOVED on garage band is the Echo and Reverb SET ON CHANNEL ...

[@JustWriteMusic]

Oh snap my memory might be failing me there. I feel like there was one, but I could be mistaken. Thanks for commenting!

[@gametime2473]

The echo and reverb effects sound terrible though. I never use those. They sound really dull. At least use the matrix reverb AU included and buy echoboy. You will thank me later.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Fair enough 👍

[@6teeth]

I like that i can have the mixer in logic on split screen.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Totally! That’s huge

[@DMDvideo10]

As a power-Garageband user this comparison is a bit skewed. I never use the simple controls in GB, I always open the plugins and use them directly. GB vs PL is a personal choice. For me I don't want to waste time learning all the extra bells and whistles. I use the DAW for recording my own music and friends music. I get a great mix and sound by focusing on how things are recorded. I used to use Pro Tools and spent so much time learning about signal routing and solving update issues, pouring more time and money into than I needed. GB was a savior. Ultimately it's all about what you want out of it. Pro Studio owners or users looking to go pro then sure the better software is Logic Pro. If you want an easy, inexpensive way to make great music GB is the way to go. What are some best music produced entirely on GarageBand? Rihanna - “Umbrella” Wavves - “Wavves” and “Wavvves” Justice - “Cross” T-Pain - “Rappa Ternt Sanga” Nine Inch Nails - “The Hand That Feeds” Radiohead - “In Rainbows” George Pringle - “Salon des Refusés” Steve Lacy - (Kendrick Lamar's) “Damn” and “Ego Death”

[@JustWriteMusic]

I really appreciate this comment and do intend to make an updated comparison video. I see your point from a balance perspective, and if I didn't make that distinction about personal preference, that's on me. The only place I'd push back a little is that the stock plugins that come with Logic are far better than the GarageBand equivalents; to the point where 3rd party plugins, which in themselves can get quite pricey, simply aren't needed. That, plus the optional simplified version of Logic, serves as a fantastic step up from GarageBand - for those who seek greater control and to learn more about audio engineering. You correctly pointed out that is a personal preference and simply won't be the right course of action for everyone. I couldn't agree more with essentially all of what you've said. GarageBand is a fantastic program - I actually made another video detailing why I think it's the best free daw out there, hands down. PRO TOOLS. Good lord, I feel for you there. I too used pro tools for a time, and it didn't suit my needs. Not to mention Avid's predatory business practices - what a nightmare. Charging subscription fees, upgrade fees, figuring out all the in's and out's of a tired interface that has barely changed so that the old timers in big studios don't have to learn to workflows. As you can tell, I have feelings about it, haha Thanks again for this solid comment. I'll get that updated video published soon and I'll aim for as much clarity and balance as I can muster :)

[@DMDvideo10]

@@JustWriteMusic I agree. I'm still toying with the idea of upgrading at the same time not sure I want the learning curb!

[@JustWriteMusic]

@@DMDvideo10 Totally fair! Lmk what you end up deciding :)

[@DMDvideo10]

@@JustWriteMusic I'm guessing that I could use Logic the same way I use Garageband just to take advantage of the plugins and higher sample rates as well. GB limits outputs to 44.1Khz. I"m assuming Logic allows for 48 and 96?

[@JustWriteMusic]

@@DMDvideo10 That's absolutely correct. And yes, Logic allows for 44.1, 48, 88, 96 - I think it even goes higher than that lol

[@paulfairchild3461]

thanks for that.🙏i have been playing with the idea of Logic Pro but don't need it as yet as .due to me being insanely junior with both of these systems .totally inexperienced as I am a no brainer 👍

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! Thanks for commenting 🤘🙏😊

[@warforlight805]

One of the main reasons I am considering switching is because right now I am Using GarageBand on my iPad Pro and I keep getting an error message that says optimizing performance and a crashes my session. Is this an issue in logic as well?

[@JustWriteMusic]

Ohh that’s weird. I’m super familiar with the iPad app, but if you’re considering switching, there isn’t a Logic App for iPad. So if you have a Mac you were considering buying Logic for, I’d recommend using GarageBand (for free) on that Mac first, before making a purchase. Otherwise, make sure the app and iPad are on the latest operating system. Do you use any peripherals with this set up? Interface, mic, etc.?

[@warforlight805]

@@JustWriteMusic hello. Thank you for your detail response. I had a microphone hooked up to it and headphones that's all. But I just bought a MacBook and I'm going to go ahead and get logic since I invested in the MacBook I might as well go all the way

[@JustWriteMusic]

Solid! I think that’s a great decision, ultimately. Happy to help!

[@warforlight805]

@@JustWriteMusic thank you

[@ayazkhan71]

Is there more beats loaded in Logic Pro x than GB ?

[@JustWriteMusic]

There are definitely more loops and instruments in Logic. For the price it’s a great buy; especially considering what other developers, like Avid, are asking for

[@pil0tfisch439]

Awesome video. Thanks!

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it :D

[@gametime2473]

What is the most powerful version of garageband? I want to stay with garageband but want to have good plug in capability for add on plug ins like Waves and Sound Toys. I am currently using garageband 4, and even though it is old, it works great with my stuff but it seems to be having problems with the newer plug ins.

[@JustWriteMusic]

The most powerful, or capable, is usually the most recent. If you're having issues with newer plugins, I'd definitely recommend upgrading. You can put any plugins you want in garageband, but you won't have the same capabilities as Logic in terms of editing and sound design on the software side, only what comes in the plugins themselves. Hope this helps!

[@musicjazzvez]

I an still on garageband 101. Thank you for sharing

[@JustWriteMusic]

You're welcome!

[@jayedg9591]

Where's the best beginner's site for GARAGEBAND? and OH.... you're presentation is great (though I'm in the proverbial woods with all the Teck).

[@JustWriteMusic]

thanks so much! I’d check out basic audio tutorials from the recording revolution. it’ll let you use any daw including GarageBand

[@isoladellerosetv]

I watched the video but still I don't understand why should I spend 200 euros/dollars... I didn't hear anything related with sound...

[@JustWriteMusic]

That's a good point - because it's not about the sound! It's about the tools it gives you to express with and alter the sounds which makes the difference

[@isoladellerosetv]

@@JustWriteMusic thank you for your answer 😊

[@crazylegsfishing9934]

Hi there great video. This might be outside the scope of this subject matter, however here goes. I’m curious how to get the feedback protection off in GarageBand and keep it off. This must be a problem for everybody who mics amps in GB. I will unclique the box, try to track guitar or something noisy and feedback protection will turn itself back on somehow. HELP!?

[@JustWriteMusic]

Ohhh interesting. There should definitely be a way to keep that off. Did you the initial troubleshooting? Like Update software on both GB and computer and a hard restart. There may be some type of automatic switch that turns it on in the underlying code of the program. They did the same thing with low latency mode. Also what kind of mic are you using?

[@crazylegsfishing9934]

@@JustWriteMusic thanks for the reply. I think it’s the latter issue. The software isn’t up-to-date Full disclosure. I am basically ready to graduate to a better DAW which is what lead me to your channel. I’m using a bunch of different mics and The issue persists. Sennheiser 421, SM57, Tascam TM-280.

[@JustWriteMusic]

I understand - yeah I’d say upgrading to a fully featured DAW would be the right move

[@DougsMusicChannel]

Good review - thanks Avi. 💕

[@JustWriteMusic]

Thanks so much Doug!! 🥰

[@DougsMusicChannel]

​@@JustWriteMusic Very helpful for me - I have an older Logic 9 (which doesn't work anymore so I switched back to GarageBand) and have been wondering about upgrading. Keep up the good work!

[@JustWriteMusic]

Serendipitous! So happy to hear this was helpful. Will do!

[@elwafi2001]

Does third party VST work on GarageBand

[@JustWriteMusic]

Only if they come in AU form, which is Apple’s version of VST essentially. Most plugins will come in both VST and AU these days

[@joejefferson1004]

I need a GarageBand that accepts Third party plugin's

[@JustWriteMusic]

Are you on mobile? I don't think it does on mobile :-/

[@ThatCancerLife]

I really like the approach of this- from the perspective of someone relatively new to recording and may not want to be a professional engineer or producer. I just want to make decent sounding stuff as easily as possible. If something big commercially happens with my music, I’ll probably be working with folks with way more technical know how anyway. Thanks and you are my new best friend.

[@JustWriteMusic]

NEW BEST FRIEND! Thank you for this wonderful comment. I felt similarly and wanted to make it accessible and with as little technical jargon as possible. As you said, people just want to make decent sounding stuff as easily as possible; ironically, this is still true for the majority of professional musicians; especially the non-engineer types!

[@angelrodriguez2841]

great video, you just saved me $200 and tons of hours and frustrations. 😅

[@JustWriteMusic]

YAAAAAAY - now go make some music :)

[@combocaleno3337]

Does GB have a Mixer?

[@JustWriteMusic]

Unfortunately no - I could swear it used to like 10+ years ago but others say it never did

[@SunlitBlooms]

Is Jessie Eisenberg running this channel?

[@JustWriteMusic]

pfff I wish - I'd love jessie eisenberg level views 🤣

[@SunlitBlooms]

@@JustWriteMusic hahaha… here’s hoping you get there soon! 🤞

[@ArtMunin]

Ok, I'll take the plunge! :)

[@JustWriteMusic]

Amazing!!!

[@mahaganpatiproductionsgoa.2142]

There was Soundtrack Pro before. Nice one it was too.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Oh snap I don’t think I used that before! Thanks for commenting 🙏

[@mahaganpatiproductionsgoa.2142]

@@JustWriteMusic Soundtrack Pro was from 2005 to 2009. Then they started Logic Pro. 😊

[@JustWriteMusic]

Oh snap!

[@CookieCrescendo]

Hey, we have the same number of subscribers, well, not anymore since I subscribed

[@JustWriteMusic]

I appreciate the sacrifice. Hold up… (Goes to subscribe) We good.

[@CookieCrescendo]

@@JustWriteMusic oh wow. Thanks! Wasn’t expecting a response. Now things are perfectly balanced once again

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! All is as it should be 🤘

[@d-wolf3499]

THANKS

[@JustWriteMusic]

You're welcome!

[@everythingvideos24]

Well no because the sound library in Logic Pro sucks. I use Music Maker on windows, and Logic Pro on my M1 Mac Mini, and M1 Macbook Pro. The sounds on Music Maker are way more superior.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Hey hey! I’ve never used music maker, but I’m familiar with the developer Magix, and have happily used their products before. Doesn’t surprise me that it’s a solid product! I’ve actually been looking for a windows DAW to send my students to and this looks perfect. Thanks so much for the recommendation 👍

[@everythingvideos24]

@@JustWriteMusic The only bad thing is you have to pay for the soundpools, but the audio options are way much better to make actual songs.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Oooh I see. Cool thanks for letting me know! Also could I ask you 2 questions? 1. What's your biggest frustration with writing music / your writing process? 2. What's your biggest hope/dream with writing /your writing process? Thanks! Trying to make better videos :)

[@Riverandsun]

@10:44 Leading into dig at AVID 😂

[@JustWriteMusic]

haha ohh yeah I've got feelings

[@richardclark6858]

I don’t think he’s making a great argument for logic..

[@JustWriteMusic]

Haha yeah GarageBand definitely has a lot going for it! I might’ve gushed a bit 😊 However, there are limitations that for sure make logic a worthy upgrade for those ready for it. Thanks so much for commenting!

[@lawrencediggs7957]

Lack of clutter is a thing, a good thing.

[@JustWriteMusic]

Absolutely true

[@shenzuke]

Check your mail ,sir !!! Been waiting for your reply for the past 2 days 😟

[@JustWriteMusic]

Oh man I didn’t reply? I could’ve sworn I did! I’m a get on that. Thanks 🙏

[@JustWriteMusic]

Emailed back :)

[@shenzuke]

@@JustWriteMusic please keep checking sir , I will write to you everyday.🙂

[@JustWriteMusic]

I appreciate the thought and the effort, but I think that energy is far better spent toward your music

[@JLStreetDoc]

Garage band is absolute garbage.

[@JustWriteMusic]

I def feel like it's lost some functionality over the years, but also the sound sets it comes with has gotten better. It's all about what you're looking to do with it

[@ULUnLoco]

thanks for the video man.. I use garage band but i'm starting to feel like i'm limited. but at the same time $200 bones

[@JustWriteMusic]

My pleasure! Yeah I definitely hear you there. Honestly, $200 one time is way better than what Avid does with Pro Tools. If you're really starting to feel the limitations of GB, I'd say the upgrade is worth it! Thanks for commenting :D

[@soundcrow8386]

Im here to support the channel by like subscribing and commenting 😁

[@JustWriteMusic]

😍😍😍

[@midi_enjoyer]

thank for this sm!!!

[@JustWriteMusic]

my pleasure! glad you got something out of it :)