Logic Pro X - 3 Bus Tricks for Mixing Drums

[@SeanFenlon]

Wow, you are a natural engineer and performer who has worked long and hard to this mastery. The force is with you. Always.

[@encoreblade3523]

I record drums in my room and I only have enough inputs on my interface for overheads and close mics. A while ago, I watched a SpectreSoundStudios video where Glenn was very adamant about room mics. After watching that video, I did some experimentation on my own and ended up making a sim room channel exactly the way you did it! I've followed your Logic Pro X guides when I first started maybe 2 or 3 years ago, when I first downloaded Logic Pro X, and after all this time, this video shows up on my recommended. I'm honored that I was able to figure out a technique that you've been using and I just gotta say thanks for all the videos you've done! It's really helped me out over the years!

[@steven4217]

This was a really effective technique and it was explained quickly, thoroughly, and in a way I think even beginners could understand. (I should know- beginner here) I’ll definitely be trying this tonight

[@djkrptdnb]

This first trick is great, I’ve been doing individual transient processing for each drum and usually with a latency heavy plugin like Neutron - very CPU heavy as well!

[@nathanstatham5022]

This channel is by far the best for tips and tricks on music production. So happy I found you years ago!

[@imdaly]

Single best and most comprehensive drum mix tutorial I've ever seen. Thank you!

[@alexurban7935]

Best video by far for mixing drums in logic!

[@AboveEmAllProduction]

Here's a tip for you. Keep your faders at unity. Control gain on the actual clip and with inserts instead. (trim, compression, clipping, limiting etc). Then use the faders for balancing only.

[@andrefornia]

Wow, so many helpful stuff in 15 mins! Thanks for another amazing video, Josh!

[@swiftnevisonbushwrangler6905]

Anyone I give advice to I send them straight to Tech Guy. Priceless is just one of the words they use.

[@blairholmesproductionsinc.9432]

This is sooooo helpful. Your way of explaining resonates with me. Thank you!

[@vicesquadpunk]

Thanks brother, I have been using a couple of these techniques for years but it’s always great to be reminded of it. Kindest regards from London 🇬🇧 UK

[@rodrigolaporte274]

JUST EXACTLY ABSOLUTELY what I needed!!!! THANKSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@paul_smith66]

Cool stuff, well explained. One thing to watch out for in Logic is that pre-fade sends are also pre-pan. So if you send them (a pre-fade send) to a stereo aux they'll all still be right up the centre regardless of where the channel they're being sent from is panned.

[@joeypereira1592]

Hey Josh I use the same techniques with samples...lol....nuthing like a great drummer, room , and mics w/ classic outboard gear....good stuff...Joey

[@lorenzowoodmusic]

When you use the presets with the multi output drummer tracks, they have room channels and overhead channels with the drums in them. You can enable or disable each drum in the rooms and overheads.

[@MusicTechHelpGuy]

You mean the preset sends Logic adds to Drummer tracks? Yeah, it's a simulated Room, like I did here. Some third party drum sample instruments actually allow you to control the level of the room mics and overhead mics. (the samples are multi-channel). Drummer doesn't let you do that. It only separates them into 5 stereo channels -- Cymbals, Kick, Snare, Toms and Perc. If there's some overhead and room control in Drummer, I've never seen it?

[@55Aavenue]

@@MusicTechHelpGuy You have to choose one of the producer kits to get the overhead and room mic tracks. The basic kits just have the 5 tracks, but if you use one of the kits under the producer kits category, then you get a separate room mic track, an overhead track, even a leak track, among a few other things.

[@BrandonFong]

Very straight forward and awesome technique. Thank you so much

[@backingtrackguys]

Awesome ! Your the Logic Pro x king 👑

[@TheRealJayguar]

About to do my first mix with drums. Appreciate this info!

[@Pjaysusity]

Useful, knowledge based sharing 🇹🇹🔥 ...your use of the envelope was like a compressor and gate. I've never used it but it seemed so easy and made so much sense. I'm thinking, in the almost million mix vids I've seen, this is the first vid that used it.

[@ryandavis170]

Genius!! 🤩 I always forget that it’s ok for your bus blends to sound weird

[@Jantonov13]

thank you man - these kinda tips are exactly what I was looking for

[@houseoftone8939]

Thanks for this advice using eg with aux, its got me around a lot of audio problems when the mix gets heavy and the drums start to fade away, triple thumbs up!!!

[@thetube4607]

Jeez. Great having so many excellent tutorials at your fingertips. Man, you must give lectures in this stuff. Thanks a whole lot. Now that I'm talking...perhaps you could give me some direction on adding a drum track to a song I recorded? The drums I already used sound terrible. Where should I upload it so you can listen?

[@TheMountainDemon]

All very useful information! Thank you!

[@RickyTehra]

Practical tips that works, while vca compressor has most sensitivity towards transients (voltage control amplifier), even fet is good for transient

[@MusicTechHelpGuy]

I was avoiding transients in the 2nd example, that's why I didn't use a FET comp. I've got the transients in the dry signal/punch aux, I just want the woofy, boomy sound in the smash aux.

[@akifcetin6020]

Great video as always.

[@jintaejoo]

Wow... I knew about the RM Simulating but Punch thing is... new to me. Thanks for the nice tip. Your channel video really helps and inspires me.

[@danielsliberatingstructure6539]

That video is so helpful! I thought my mix sounded good already, but boy was I wrong! Thank you some much!

[@SeraphMusicProductions]

This is gem! Thank you buddy

[@brettvogelmusic]

So so so helpful! Thank yo so much for sharing your knowledge with the world! :-)

[@michelarias3715]

Great job man! Really helpful

[@cajuncrackerranch7990]

Thank you 🙏! Great demonstration with useful tips and tolls. Appreciate you bro. Peace ✌️ Back to mission control! 😂 (for me) I’m working on getting a great kit sound out of a dead room. No worries, there are no bodies on the floor.

[@Nsr3lias]

Omg what am I doing wrong please help. So I been processing on every individual track like kick I be sending to compression or other effects and list goes on also other instruments am I doing wrong?

[@rorbud01]

Damn! How good is this?

[@ckowalski1029]

Thank you. Would a drum kit sound fine without any overhead tracks, if you simulate just a room track?

[@Drumde]

Thank you, this is a great tutorial, straight to the point.

[@quantum_ocean]

what if I want a MONO kick? my bus is mono but my delay in the bus is only affecting Left side... I added an Utility > Gain with convert to mono but it's still not mono.

[@vaportrails7943]

Parallel compression is the most important thing to learn about mixing.

[@ajaygeorge4775]

Wow! This is so useful. Thank you!

[@keithleak4512]

How do I get my Track Stack to light up? it is greyed out. Please advise, thank you

[@edglue6138]

Great video sir

[@scottchandler1796]

Great stuff as always. However Logic’s drummer does have overheads, room a, room b and leak tracks. You have to use the “Producer +” kits. They all have the same kit names however you need to drill down under the folder name “Producer +”

[@scottchandler1796]

Sorry. Must correct myself, there is no room b, but yes all of the others above do exist.

[@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69]

He knows he teaches that in another video.

[@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69]

This actually teaches you how.

[@RogerioValgode]

Great trick, thanks. Very useful!

[@joeypereira1592]

Josh when creating an aux return with a bus does Logic Pro X now offer mono aux returns?

[@j0hnnykil894]

thank you, truly

[@redguitar6062]

Can't you also get a parallel compression effect with the compressor mix knob?

[@reakapho]

Thanks Boss!

[@KristersHartmanis]

Great video! Thank you!

[@bubrocker]

Very Cool. I love the idea of sub-mixing down to several separate textures, rather that stacking them on a single bus, (ie. one bus that contains eq, compression, reverb, etc.) This puts a lot of creative control in your hands when it comes down to mixing the tracks with the rest of the performance. Well done sir! love your videos

[@Patri_Fides]

Thanks. I'm always trying to mix my tracks better.

[@jonathanthompson9068]

Great video!

[@thomasanderson7857]

Is there a quick way to layer a sample on the same beats and with the same velocity as your recorded drums?

[@albertomarquez1010]

Un gran tutorial. Gracias

[@호시절-c1w]

Gooooodddd!!!!!I love that!!!

[@toxieroyce2528]

so would you use all three of these techniques at the same time/in one mix? Or does it just depend? Like if I made a punch bus, would I need a smash bus? If I'm using midi drums, could I use all three at the same time?

[@MusicTechHelpGuy]

Yes, you could use all 3 at the same time and blend them together. I use effects like this all the time on MIDI drums to give them more of a "mixed like real drums" sound.

[@toxieroyce2528]

@@MusicTechHelpGuy excellent thanks so much and thank you for the valuable content!

[@hollyking4029]

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[@scp234]

The logic pro x drummer producer kits have room channels.

[@TM-guitar]

Useful!

[@tessblue123]

How come when i try to solo the bus it doesn't play sound?

[@StratsRUs]

Fantastic !

[@devmobray]

super

[@lancinator]

How did you add in 'sample' tracks to match your live tracks?

[@boatdrum.6148]

Thank you , Good idea Very much !!!

[@RandyWillcox]

This is killer! 🤘🏻

[@GlennARogers]

Great video learnt a lot.

[@BUZZYBUZZIE]

Sounds clean

[@CRASS2047]

You should sell templates with all your best chains, busses and sends, etc....

[@Mr.A_LDN]

Great video thanks!

[@drummerslane]

Any help on how to create multi tracks for live drums?

[@yassine.hammar1974]

So helpful thank you sir

[@nanakennedy8141]

Can this be used for hip hop/ trap beats ?

[@von_Apa]

You are SUPER!!!🌟🎶🎸🎹🙏

[@danielkang7789]

any suggestions instead of putting stock envelop and the comp?

[@ChristianSchebitz]

Super helpful!

[@SchibbiSchibbi]

my eyes still bleed every time I open Enveloper. Can't believe it's 2024 and they updated all the GUI but this one's stuck in the past foreverr hahah

[@AllanGildea]

Thank you very much! Excellent.

[@sdecario5736]

Excellent!!!!

[@raulxmago]

Master! 20 puntos para ti!

[@Donfugazi]

very nice video.. thank you..

[@thaddeuscorea]

Great Tips. I use similar everyday!

[@markuskaempfer]

really great! thx a lot!

[@JesseWilsonMusic]

Thank you

[@nicklangmusic]

Super helpful stuff! Especially that first “punch” bus! One issue I had was that When I loaded up Space Designer, I didn’t have all those room presets like you had. How do I get those?

[@gratefulmusicsound8337]

It’s there, I wonder why you can’t find that. Which version of Logic Pro X you on?

[@SoggyBagelz]

How can you add the samples after recording?

[@prodpaulo]

bro! so helpful!!!

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

2:30 Question: How are you sending 100% of the channels to the aux if the green knob is not all the way turned to the right on them?

[@MusicTechHelpGuy]

If you option click on the send amount, it will set it to 0.0dB, which is sending 100% of the signal from the channel through. yes, it's positioned about two-thirds right, but if you go any further right, you'll see that you're adding gain on top of the normal channel level. So when you go beyond 0dB, you actually sending a louder signal to the send than you are sending through the channel.

[@Pikachu-qr4yb]

@@MusicTechHelpGuy Wow that's good to know. I'm assuming that's not ideal in an average situation, due to clipping etc?

[@walterwa256]

This is so cool

[@marcushawkinsmusic]

Golden!!

[@homamajak]

The web site is not working

[@CouncilEstatePopMusic]

many thanks again :) jake.

[@ckowalski1029]

Thank you. 10:36 How to simulate room mics

[@DorinelMusic]

BIG LIKE! Thenks

[@ZCRmadeit]

u da man man

[@Fabelnegros]

awesome !

[@danthemanmillan]

Is there a way to send he audio into an aux track but the bus track is the main audio source? So like the original audio track isn’t outputting audio.

[@MusicTechHelpGuy]

Yes, just make the send pre-fader, and then pull down the volume of the audio track. The signal will still go through the bus to the aux track without any regard for the main channel level.

[@TheSlickoify]

Why not just route the channel output to the bus? You don't need a send plus you can still use the fader instead of that tiny send knob.

[@rileyjordan8114]

In logic, click on “St Out” on the fader and then just change it to whatever bus you want

[@ParsevalMusic]

splendid

[@thisissha11]

Thxxxxxx.... Brother..

[@earecordingstudios3128]

Your dope man

[@Royy]

that last tip though.. :)