Logistics

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[@badcaseofstripes]

as an 'artist' I'm perpetually shidding my pants, shaking and crying thinking about opening an online shop

[@EctoSpirianC]

You could probably dip a toe in the water by selling those pooped pantaloons to degenerates, getting a feel of the entrepreneur life. This will in theory make selling your art easier. That's what I did. I never got to the art selling part but my pooped pantaloon shop has skyrocketed me to being one of the top 1% earners of my country.

[@fuizipra]

my solution to this problem was to turn the online shop INTO art 💖

[@MariannesStudio]

Ooooh that's so cute ​@@fuizipra

[@briancomforti3890]

Why

[@cordenhuman]

Logistiscs is why I don't have a girlfriend, when you really think about it

[@Jay-wy2wt]

Sooo real

[@anik05733]

somehow it all makes sense now

[@vavqnok473]

bro you should be the one thinking about it 💀

[@shinimekekemee5828]

having a degree in what is essentially logistics management i can promise dating still blows, if not more bc no likes talking about infrastructure cost and choice theory :r

[@yamatanoorochi3149]

​@@shinimekekemee5828 is this ironic

[@ripHalo0002]

Her name is Mierle Laderman Ukeles, and her work critiques how we devlaue the people who keep our world running.

[@Sinci1]

ironically enough it feels like her work devalues the same people, i.e because she's an "artist" and she's communicating something "deep" she's doing something more intrinsically meaningful then a lady who actually keeps the venue clean. It's an opinion of mine and maybe not a very based in reality opinion as the only info I have about her is from this video and this comment section but nonetheless, it is an interpretation and I guess art is all about interpretation innit. Anyway I have a lot of respect for Greg's thoughts and advice and I feel like I've benefited a lot from them, the only main thing I do disagree is doing the sort of art that doesn't actually have much value or effort put into it but that's intended to communicate a "le deeper message", like the lady you mentioned, Mierle. In fact I feel like her work devalues people who not only have a deep and meaningful message they wish to communicate, but they also put effort into the thing they're making and they also make it have value for the people who engage with it, i.e it's actually entertaining and serves a valuable use in the lives of the people who engage with the art. Something like classical movies that have a deep message and that also are entertaining to watch is something I have a lot more respect for as a medium then someone like Mierle who does a "performative piece" but that other than "deep message" there's nothing really of value there. And since we're on the topic I'll say too when it comes to deep messages and what art communicates, I think there is a difference between art / a message that has one layer of interpretation [i.e Mierle's lousy work] and art / a message which to a 1000 different people communicate a 1000 different things, art which has actual depth. Art which does intend to communicate something [i.e not something that is intended to only have mass appeal and nothing else], but that message is one that has actual *depth* to it, that you can have genuine discussions about what the art communicated and represented to you in your life and that it actually has a valuable place in your life, too, something that you can re engage with and gain new perspectives every time you do rather than something that has a one note message that there is nothing past that one thing once you "understand it", there's literally nothing else to contemplate once you understand the "one thing" the person tried to "convey", and in the way they even conveyed it there's nothing admirable about the way they went about doing so. That kind of "Art" I really can't stand, I mean I can but I don't particularly like it, and it's like an insult to actual art where not only does actual art communicate a message, not only does it have a sort of simple message that you can understand like the "art" also does, but outside of that it has infinitely more depth and layers and everything else that people "praise" the first kind of "art" for, and on top of all of that it's actually entertaining so you don't even [if you don't want to] have to understand the deeper message. And on top of all of that they have the gall to be pretentious as if they're doing something so deep and so meaningful and "oh people just don't get how significant my work truly is" bro like actually shut up. Once again I've written all of this without even doing research on what Mierle does, maybe she does actually do a musical or something where she tackles those topics and does so beautifully and intricately and there's levels of depth to what she's saying and for the people that partake in her show it's like a highlight of the year for them and they go away having not only having a wonderful experience but also having deep thoughts to consider about the message of her story and what she's conveyed masterfully in her [actual] art. And if that's the case, well... I apologize for calling her out specifically but I think my points still stand for other kinds of people who do have the attitudes and approaches I've critiqued in my comment, and in any case, you can always see this very comment as a "performance piece" demonstrating a person who pours his heart out about a subject only to realize that the main foundation upon which he was talking the whole time on was fundamentally misunderstood and therefore there is actually a deeper message there about emotion and people's response to pretentiousnessess and all sorts of things that is the beauty of "art". God, I hate this kind of art, it's like a meme, it's literally like a meme where it communicates a one note single message except it isn't even funny so it's not even a good meme on that front. And the people have the gall to be pretentious about it. What a disgrace to be pretentious about it to the whole notion of art itself, something that communicates a deep message with depth that is also well crafted and brings genuine value to those who engage with it, and that there's no arrogance when it comes to making art, I think that is important too. Hope you enjoyed my essay on the state of the kind of "art" that Mierle seems to do, lololo, thank you for reading.

[@thirduncle5366]

​@@Sinci1 I find the arrogance of your presumptious attitude worse than the arrogance you perceive.

[@Sinci1]

@@thirduncle5366 zamn... how is my attitude presumptious...

[@Sinci1]

@@thirduncle5366 can you elaborate

[@ripHalo0002]

@Sinci1 Mierle personally shook hands with every NYC maintenance employee, so STFU I AINT READIN ALL DAT 🗣🗣🗣

[@no_talking]

i have bad gas if i eat too much yogurt, you wont see me dancing after breakfast: logistics

[@AnnaHollinrake]

Couldn't have gotten this at a better time as I'm crying over writing press releases, make Steam page graphics, and collating journalist emails for my indie game announce :') YES LOGISTICS ARE PART OF ART. YES IT HURTS. BUT YES WE MUST PRESS ON (and Steam pages aren't scary any more)

[@YasmynTVx]

1. Unconscious Incompetence 2. Conscious Incompetence 3. Conscious Competence 4. Unconscious Competence

[@lambda653]

This applies to almost any creative profession, especially in STEM professions. Most of your time spent coding is debugging, most of a scientist's work is spent analyzing experiment statistics, most of the budget for engineering a device is spent testing it. We all have to do the boring grunt work if we want to find our magnum opus, our theory of relativity, our model t, etc. Nothing great is built out of nowhere through inspiration, you have to spend the time to get good at it.

[@sneakers_guy5488]

Needed to read this comment, thanks 👍

[@juice_management]

I get it now, Me rewriting my script 20 times was a logistics issue all along. Thanks greg

[@claireschweizer4765]

I made bad art today and it made me happy for about 20 seconds...I hope I finish it and I get joy out of it again..

[@ohdarling6657]

Have you finished it?

[@lenah9027]

Dude how do you upload exactly what I need to hear when I need to hear it. You’re like my rabbi

[@Jasmine69420]

Greg is a rabbi, he was recently turned jewish by a demon with cool hair.

[@Jasmine69420]

As a transgendered type beat living under capitalism I have to frequently practice the logistics of disruption and making myself very inconvenient and expensive to ignore because otherwise 99.999% of the sentences I hear in liberal society begin with the word "unfortunately"

[@nothingdos]

One day you’ll become a fully mixed and mastered track 🙏🙏🙏

[@free_siobhan]

god that’s so real we need to abolish “unfortunately”

[@QuantumShenna]

Personally, I think that logistics is beautiful, especially when done well. Watching loads of disparate elements come together to produce a cohesive, singular outcome, watching, perhaps, dozens of emails getting sent, replies checked, the schedule narrowing and narrowing, props and equipment acquired, people arriving at the appointed time, each addressing their own needs on the way, each carrying some part of the necessary items, all to produce something that looks so simple, an outcome so narrow in purpose. To me, that's art.

[@Person-Man67]

Si dom moment

[@Super8806]

I'm presently in the process of making the most audacious project I ever have, and it's huge. The more I think about it. The more excited I get about, and the bigger it gets. And the bigger it gets, the more logistics get in the way. And I get demotivated. But I must say, your art focused channel destroys that feeling close to completely. Things like being unable to afford the type of camera I'd like become embracing the low budget and making it part of me. These videos make me feel not only that I can make it solely with my willpower and limitations, but that the biggest differential I own in the quality and reach of my projects is between my perception and my actions. I want you to know that this second channel is in a huge way a positive. Unless you think art production is a net negative for the human race, in which case. Great job! We'll destroy this society yet!

[@MenacingBanjo]

I'm sorry you're being audited. That sucks. Good luck to you, sir.

[@criekstar]

im super looking forward to that show being uploaded somewhere. it was pretty life changing and i'd love to watch it again!

[@shodanxx]

I'm at 2:56, and I have to say the Montreal show of post modern love song was a rousing success. Thankyou, again, for taking a chance on this If only every show that you make can be this intimate. It was fantastic.

[@nym5qu17]

I also am an artist who hates logistics. I get mad anxiety over emails. It prevents me from doing stuff like trying to get my work into galleries

[@costanzapolastri]

taxes are the worst can confirm

[@ely.lingss]

that t-shirt's awesome greg

[@luizzeroxis]

the funny part is that his camera battery was full

[@krgoodrich1]

There's not a way you are not actually decent at logistics now though. This is a great message. You may have been bad at a thing everyone starts out reasonably bad at, but you're way better now or we wouldn't be watching you and trying to emulate what's good from you. A good message to push through the Ls. Thanks for reminding us that we practice to get the Ws.

[@josephdegraff467]

Been watching for many years and I think this is one of my favorites, Greg. Ty

[@tofunmiapampa7418]

Man another insightful banger, once again really appreciate the videos. Real talk right here. Makes me think how urgency plays into logistical inclination

[@eret3]

Sending prayers to the camera!!!!🙏🙏🙏🙏 Edit: 12:09 NOOOOOO BRO RIP CAMERA TAKEN TOO SOON I WAS YOUR BIGGEST FAN

[@MrssNatalia]

You got me at ying yang yada yada

[@MasterEth]

Thank you Greg for reminding me to do my taxes

[@phrogdepana4550]

i need jreg to do book or comic or game , very good book, no but really in all honesty i think he could write an extremly intristing book, wether he creates a story or he just writes whatever he thinks about, political or not, but pls do book

[@WickedPawn]

Logistics is realizing everyone should upload content to their own platform but they can't because the guys who own most of the farmland also own most of the internet !

[@saintykins]

I think when we tell ourselves what we are capable of and our limitations it locks us in a hold from our potential, I really relate with just imagining you are a professional in the field and being able to build a sort of confidence to get the task at hand done, eventually you find yourself in a place where its easier to tell yourself you can do it. Im not good at video editing and I find myself getting lost and having fun in the process as I slowly overcome the confusion and develop a workflow, Its fun and and fulfilling to see yourself get better at the process you berate yourself for being "bad" at

[@Sciencegames21]

You gotta compromises with reality, but at least you are practicing your craft moreso now than abstractly planning about it; this message is me talking to myself

[@MOS1234567891]

Great speech, putting together a lot of the unspoken parts of creation. Thanks for sharing going to come back to this.

[@alienatedlibrarian5017]

At the risk of being too sincere, I love this for you. I love jreg but it's nice you have a place *somewhat* separate from that

[@hwithumlaut8288]

Good job on this video it really pulled through

[@small.clover]

107 views in 10 minutes, Jreg popping off

[@emrylmusic]

0:40 sorry for my big ass head blocking the picture

[@yennikarual]

5:38 i have been making stuff for almost five years across multiple social media so i've started centralising all of it into one archive on my patreon, and i'm having this exact experience of balancing preservation and revision

[@oskarsamsel5903]

thank you!

[@alfred8936]

Dante's Circles of Hell (2024 Update): -Live show venue scheduling -The publishing industry -Music and podcast streaming contracts -SEO -Merch disputes -Taxes -All the other ones are also the publishing industry

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

You forgot about getting the equipment amd said equipment failling all the time.

[@SoVidushi]

OMG THE LIVESHOW WITH TWO OF MY FAV CREATORS

[@natMcil]

Endure the pain for sake of your dreams!

[@pastawater]

logistics can with time be reconceptualized to be fun. if you can accept what the cause of it is all for, accept making art for all of its great and boring parts, doing the logistics can sometimes actually be quite fun. at least for me. maybe it depends on what type of person you are

[@visi7891]

how to survive as an artist. how to succeed as an artist

[@julesoul]

WAIT I NEED TO STOP BEING A BABY?!?!?!

[@Connell843]

Let's hope the dresser keeps you organized

[@ilikemoney9206]

greg is a real guy yk

[@yaboyalaska7550]

I love logistics! It's a lot of fun and I'm good at it. Perth WA hmu

[@pollopapigrande4990]

this video is great

[@blue4669]

I suppose logistics is the main reason i haven't been able to do my thing better tbh

[@danevans9742]

I don't know why this is, but when you talk about un/conscious incompetence (in this art context) it rubs against a part of me that somehow... learned that working at being good at *work* is a dumb or embarrassing thing. So i've just spent my life avoiding becoming skilled because how pathetic to TRY amirite? These days I'm learning to deal with the despair of wasting that time... and negotiating with the the part of me that still yells "ITS SO LAME YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW HOW TO DO THIS". But what else is there to do, but get better at things?

[@slauthordraws3363]

posts that make you less grumpy about having to email art directors

[@colehetzel5003]

I'm 19 years old, is it over for me?

[@badcaseofstripes]

might as well just give up at this point

[@ripHalo0002]

Just starting

[@kelechi_77]

im 18 and bro this is like our prime, come back in like 2035 or some shit, that's when its over.

[@MatauReviews]

It’s never over. Fool

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

Yes. :3

[@Minstorm34]

dude these videos are so good. You ever watch Elliot Earls? Hugely insightful and related stuff and very much in the same vein. I'm not even an artist, but there's something about career advice for artists that goes way way harder than career advice for (say) programmers. I'm thinking of my work more and more as art lately. Good luck to everyone in their pursuits

[@Minstorm34]

and that's not even to say I can't do art in practice as a non artist - to quote Kanye West "Everything in this world is exactly the same"

[@cicadafiach6915]

love this energy, love the video but also bro has never met a union stagehand or other people who work professionally in live events XD

[@addisonkennedy7111]

Thoughts on logistical issues/ gear restrictions on informing the creative process?

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

If more people were willing to deal with logistics managers wouldn't exists.

[@Buckleupbucko]

If you watch his videos, you’ll eventually make something.

[@quartoacelino]

PRIMEIRO PORRAAAAAA

[@pollopapigrande4990]

what went wrong at the first venue he booked?

[@uncouver]

You should be delagating all these menial tasks to JJ.

[@cordenhuman]

0 views in 27 seconds Jegg fell off

[@ceylannanami2057]

怎么见闻越来越平庸了，不有趣啊，也许结合更多实例或者更多比喻能让这种见闻类日记变得更有趣些？我在跟谁说话呢，，

[@PublicServiceForTruth]

You dont have to pay taxes whatch Brandon Joe Williams last Interviews outside his Channel specially, he IS a legal artist, TRUST ME, YOUR MIND 👉🤯

[@FaCiSmFTW]

I hate logistics Jgreg

[@n0110]

There is no skill or complicated talent in photography and art. There will be less in the future. And there wasn't really any.

[@miro007ist]

You support trans rights.

[@samuelmelton8353]

Meaning of logistics in English logistics noun [ plural ] UK /ləˈdʒɪs.tɪks/ US /ləˈdʒɪs.tɪks/ When it's planes in the sky For a chain of supply That's logistics When the pipes for the line Come precisely on time That's logistics A continuous link That is always in sync That's logistics Carbon footprint reduced Bottom line gets a boost That's logistics With new ways to compete There will be cheers on Wall Street That's logistics When technology knows Right where everything goes That's logistics Bells will ring, ring-a-ding Ring-a-ding ring-a-ding That's logistics There will be no more stress Cause you called UPS That's logistics