Logitech MX Keys For Mac Review: Beautiful, But NOT For Everyone! (Long Term Review)

[@bw7868]

I'm a developer using the mini version of the keyboard, I work 8 hours a day with no pain at all. For me it's the most comfortable keyboard I've ever used. My only con for the mini version that's not compatible with the unifying receiver also bolt receiver not included.

[@drbenirusani]

"not compatible with the unifying receiver" -- hi what do you mean by this, I plan to buy the mini version for Mac too. Thanks 😁

[@StefanConstantinDumitrache]

@@drbenirusani Logitech has a few types of receivers, and each one can pair with at least 2 devices at a time. The Unifying received pairs with 6 devices, and while it may be unlikely to use that many, you would still like to pair it with a compatible mouse and keyboard. Logitech did sort of a dumb move with this pair of keyboards, because the regular MX Keys uses the Unifying receiver, but the MX Keys Mini uses the Bolt receiver. So if you have a Logitech mouse compatible with one of these receivers, you need to know which one is it so you can buy the right keyboard. What's even more baffling is that the Mini uses a different receiver than the MX Anywhere 3, which is probably the most lauded mini-mouse Logitech has on sale right now. So while Logitech likes to advertise these two as making a great pair, they don't fully work together unless you use both receivers.

[@drbenirusani]

@@StefanConstantinDumitrache oh wow ok cool thank you so much taking time in replying and sharing your knowledge. Anyway, I have bought a third-party keyboard that’s also a folder to go with my iPad mini six. 😄

[@Chrisalead5]

Absolutly no pain for me to use this keyboard. And i'm a programmer & gamer : typing more than 10 hours a day.

[@LovBoat]

Right?! No pain at all, look at How at how this goof is typing at 5:24 … and he is wondering why the wrist strain.

[@patrickpaganini]

Yes, I wouldn't blame the keyboard. I use it all day each day for the last 1.5 years, and it's the most comfortable keyboard I've every used (touch typist). I think he got RSI and needs to use a different position & possibly keyboard to type.

[@paullierary9579]

@@LovBoat now that i look at it, why his wrist like that wtf.

[@aus_life]

Me too. I program and type all day everyday. This is one of the best non mechanical keyboard. When he says Apple makes the best keyboard he lost me. Ahh hello Lenovo.

[@StefanConstantinDumitrache]

@@aus_life Lenovo has a kbm combo that's very cheap, but the keys look similar with their laptop keys. Do they feel the same? Thinkpads have probably the most lauded kb than any other laptops.

[@pieter-6385]

This is the best keyboard I ever typed on, hands down. There is no problem with ergonomics whatsoever, I use the keyboard +- 14 hours per day.

[@jdillon8360]

Same. I've had it for a few months now and love it! I feel like it was made just for me.

[@justinvfernando]

Just a feedback. Your cons with the keyboard is not actually because of the keyboard or not mainly because of the keyboard design. It could be a factor that the actuation weight of the keypresses could be on the heavier side compared to your preference or to the key weight you are used to. But, it is more on the way you type, most probably. Using a wrist rest is not actually good, because you are putting unnecessary pressure and awkward angle on your wrist while typing for long hours. The best thing to avoid the issues you have described is to change the way you type. Instead of using a wrist rest, learn to hover your hands over a keyboard, avoid using your wrist as a pivot point for typing.

[@noaht124]

I got this keyboard a few weeks ago for use at work and home and it’s easily the best keyboard I’ve ever used. It’s the perfect mix between the Apple Magic Keyboard and a mechanical keyboard, if that makes sense. 10/10 recommend.

[@dhanikaweerasekera]

Hey man thanks for the review but I hope you don't use it in 5:25 position for that many hours as you say. Cos I feel that's sort of user error. Ideally, you are supposed to have your elbows at 90° while typing if it's comfort/good posture you are looking for.

[@starmorpheus]

Yeah that's one way to mess up your wrist

[@extsania]

That's a bullshit. If your wrists lying in this position @ 5:25 you can buy the most expensive keyboard and still have a pain. The Logitech MX keyboard is one of the best for using 24/7.

[@nuculabs]

same, I use it without a wrist rest because I think the rest will make it worse. It's just like a laptop keyboard

[@mettesimonsen5151]

Do you use the wrist rest for this keyboard?

[@Ax3lN3ri]

i have macs and i have this mx keys and i love it ill never go back to magic keyboard

[@amirshayanmoghtaderi5840]

wow, a youtube video with 21:9 aspect ratio, I'm impressed!😍

[@yahyakhan3194]

I just finished my exam, and I open my notification and I see you. what a good reward :)

[@TerrenRule]

Woohoo that’s awesome! How did your exam go? :)

[@yahyakhan3194]

@@TerrenRule I think it went very well medical school is hard lol

[@ajitjalady]

Don't use your wrists for resting and typing. That's the reason for your pain. And the keyboard does have an aluminum frame inside.

[@Chilltown95]

Sorry are you saying don’t type while your wrists are resting on the pad? Isn’t that why it’s there

[@ajitjalady]

@@Chilltown95 yes that is not recommended by doctors.

[@Chilltown95]

@@ajitjalady so when should I rest my wrists on the pad?

[@ajitjalady]

@@Chilltown95 its not recommended. There are lot of KZbin videos on how to type properly without getting pain.

[@DragDealer]

Why does this keyboard won’t work when you start your Mac to unlock it? I have to use the MacBook keyboard instead

[@digitalspecter]

So, where are the thoughts about Ergo?

[@chinkinsky05]

“Apple makes some of the best keyboards in the world” Me: *laughing in butterfly keyboards”

[@testxxxx123]

Magic keyboard is a joke

[@yuppymike]

I love the butterfly keyboard!

[@softwareengineer9435]

Why would one type 16 hours/day? lol Even i don't do that and I work full-time on a computer.

[@dandrewilliams9963]

Do you think any keyboard will prevent wrist problems if you are typing 16 hours a day.... I'm not sure how realistic your expectations are..

[@benzx8690]

Good review. Been looking for an honest review like yours for a while now. Thanks

[@marielperia3774]

Did you change your keyboard yet? I’m also looking for a comfortable keybord that i’ll use 8hrs everyday

[@Peichiny]

Thank you,very useful video!I I ordered it today!

[@hfukerg.]

Can this Mac version be paired with pc?

[@maxdondada]

Great review, the discomfort you’ve been expecting is due to your position. Switch to an adjustable chair, buy a better wrist rest cause that one sucks. Buy a sit/stand desk.

[@jonbbradie]

What about the Logitech Craft, with the crown dial? This seems like it’ll serve my purposes well, but that dial is interesting. Thx, and loving the channel.

[@bethporta8636]

does it work with an older 2014 apple pc?

[@chathurindasumithraarachch2716]

did you have any disconnecting issues with this keyboard ? I've seen so many people complaining disconnecting issues with Bluetooth and also with the wireless receiver #MXKeys

[@Breakhoven]

If i want to use it with mac and windows will this Mx support?

[@pdipalma30]

Hi, i've had my MX Keys S now for 2 weeks and my wrists are already hurting me daily. I had that and the ERGO 860 for a week and opted to keep the MX and return the ergo, but im thinking now to swtich. What is your daily keyborad now and how did you like the Ergo ?

[@phillippennington]

What’s the monitor you’re using in the back? Looks awesome. Link me if you made a video on it

[@basiliobastardo255]

sir how about review of it in terms of toughness, with harras environment, humid, coffee spill oooppppssss, non air condition env, dusty area. appreciate if you can include something like that

[@professionalaesthetics]

I have this and the K780. I find the k780 to have just a little snappier feel in the keys and I like how the keys are circles- my fingers fined each key just a touch more easily as I use the keyboard. Plus the bounce back is a touch better. Last, that notch for the ipad and iPhone keep clutter of an extra stand off my desk. I just sit down and put the ipad or phone there. If the MX keys had that holder I’d be pushed to hang onto it but I hang onto my K780 easily in the meantime.

[@Quiselott]

It would be great if they merged them. I have K780 and the only annoying thing is no backlighting. Solution is I have a light at above my monitor but sometimes I'd rather turn off some of these lights to avoid straining my already delicate eyes any further.

[@drygnfyre]

The Magic Keyboard can be used wired for when the battery eventually stops holding a charge. Can this keyboard likewise be used wired via USB-c?

[@michaelpace8680]

I question whether reviewers actually use the keyboard. Why? The backlight alone is enough to make it unusable. It looks great when lighten but that takes time and results in incorrect key pressing or waiting for to lighten before typing. I bought tried and finally threw it away. Together with the mx3s mouse as that won’t allow you to rest your hand without the, light touch buttons triggering. Beautiful combination but a pain to use.

[@cannotkazi]

The rounded dip in the keycaps could indeed be comfort-additive as your fingers have a lil spot to land into, But then again we're not really typing one key at a time right? So our fingers that land towards the edge-most keys hit them at an angle. Maybe then that calls for the shape of the spherical dip to be angular as well. Err..but that would certainly make it less generally suitable for the masses. It'll hit home for some, and throw off others. This right here in such case sounds like a "safe" bet on their part.

[@jdillon8360]

Hi Terren. Your video is well made but I think I would have to disagree with you. I use this exact keyboard for 8 hours a day and I love it. It's the best keyboard I've ever had. I'm glad I have it because I actually don't like the keyboard on the M1 air. My 2012 air had a better keyboard in my opinion. Perhaps you could try a different height or not using the wrist rest.

[@shkjuy6935]

Do some unboxing of other laptop and phones if possible. Ur voice is smoothing Love from India

[@TerrenRule]

So glad you enjoy my stuff! Yes more content in the way outside of just Apple :)

[@shkjuy6935]

@@TerrenRule i own a macbook air m1 , the apps u suggested for macbook were amazing and i am using it everyday 😎👍

[@steevepradel8732]

did you buy and try the k860 ?

[@edlye7694]

Just curious, what made you go with the M1 Macbook Air and the Mac Mini? Given that the only difference is the fan. As compared to going for the higher spec MBA and connecting to a monitor when you need a desktop. P.s been watching lots of your vids lately, great stuff :)

[@vt4979]

The fan is there' so you don't have to worry about throttling performance, it's night and day difference when you do heavy duty work. Both the MBA and MBP gets significantly hot under heavy load and the Mac Mini solves that. Also there's concern about longevity I guess.

[@I_Mackenzie]

Just got mine and I can't seem to get the display brightness to work on F1 or F2 using the standard mode. Everything else seems to work on the media mode.

[@scrapgramm]

How do I connect the MX keyboard and mouse to my M1 iMac? There is no place the dongle can connect to. I realize they connect with bluetooth but isn't the dongle the receiver?

[@modo203]

Very honest feedback. Thanks for sharing. I did in fact assume it was made of aluminum until I watched your review. Given it's plastic and the high markup, I think I'll pass. Best,

[@Jvilleman400]

I have the mx keys mini and i use it with my macbook air. I just wish they made a "for mac" version in mini in space grey, i have the mx master 3s space grey for mac as well but, it'd be nice if i didnt have to buy the full size keyboard just to get my keyboard to match my mouse

[@jerz2401]

#MXKeys I actually bought this keyboard about a month ago because I have a laptop for work and my personal MacBook. I love that I can easily switch between systems. So far, I love it. But to your point, I’m not typing 10+ hours a day.

[@TerrenRule]

Yeah this keyboard is indeed awesome. Glad to see your enjoying it! And yes, for my extremes I’m better off with something more ergonomic

[@sarveshsethuraman2374]

but does it work fine for you? does it get uncomfortable?

[@jerz2401]

@@sarveshsethuraman2374 it hasn’t been uncomfortable at all. Now, it might be because I’m not typing for long periods of time. I send out a lot of emails for work, but I don’t do heavy writing tasks. And on my personal time, I’m rarely typing a lot. I use my MacBook Air for photo editing and day-to-day tasks like bill paying, web browsing, emails, etc.

[@pathen103]

It’s a perfect keyboard but has a major major flaw…THE BACKLIGHT HAS NO “ALWAYS ON” option. It’s incredibly distracting! That’s a huge issue. Therefore, I don’t recommend.

[@StepphanMcPherson]

Hi, great video. I have the keyboard for only two weeks now. The backlight doesn't work anymore . Is your keyboard still functioning well ?

[@Akuu820]

Lost me at 'Apple makes some of the best keyboards in the world'.

[@vqa33]

Good luck then, I’m completely agree with him.

[@baoboba]

@@vqa33yeah they make great minimalistic keyboards (if you’re not one of those mechanical keyboard enthusiasts)

[@ITLIFER]

i appreciate the 21:9 aspect ratio 😄

[@Unam469]

So what is the design flaw as far as ergonomics? You state it gives you wrist sprain and don’t bother to elaborate why the keyboard is uncomfortable.

[@nvrdi8716]

Show more of the keyboard in future please, use voice overs. Here for to look at the keyboard

[@cristianroman3303]

am I the only one noticing this guy has his office set in the kitchen? :))

[@robertmariano]

This review was helpful, I bought this keyboard before I read your review. I should have watched this before I had bought the keyboard. I like it though.

[@navdeepsingh1291]

Hey man, I have a question, people say that Bluetooth mice(except the apple Magic Mouse) don’t work very well with the Mac book air M1, there seems to be a lag while using it, and also diminished accuracy of the pointer, can you let me know if this really is this case, because I plan on buying the Logitech MX Master 3..😺

[@jeremygolez1866]

same, I'd also like to know this one @Terren Rule

[@xevox7927]

It is the case unfortunately, however with the usb receiver that comes with the non-Mac version, it works flawlessly. Therefore I suggest anyone buying Mx master 3 for their Mac to go for the standard version. There is no difference between them except for the usb receiver, color scheme and the charger (usb-c for Mac and usb-a for standard version). You would of course need a usb-adapter/hub for the usb receiver to work if ur using a MacBook since they only have 2 usb-c outlets.

[@CvetanSimsic]

@@xevox7927 That is not entirely true. I tried both unifying receiver, and bluetooth same lag on both. Until we have logitech options for apple silicon I think we will not have decent experience.

[@xevox7927]

@@CvetanSimsic Well yes, but using a unifying receiver certainly a better experience than with Bluetooth, not perfect tho as I too experience lag on occations.

[@REVIEWSONTHERUN]

Amazing review! Cool accessories for Mac for sure. Thank you for sharing it. ✌️

[@TerrenRule]

Thank you for always watching! :)

[@unskeptable]

Why is your kitchen in your office ?

[@TerrenRule]

Notification squad anyone?! :)

[@TerrenRule]

Love it!

[@DakshBhandari]

I'm here! 🖖🏻

[@TerrenRule]

Wooohoo 🥳

[@builtbypi2276]

Hi would you consider selling it to me if you're no longer using it? I'm in the USA been using the K780 since covid started.

[@uber_stuber]

thank you for your review! definitely helps me to see that this keyboard appears to not be worth the money being charged for it lol

[@amimrie]

The reply from others, lean the opposite way, opinions eh.

[@Supisiciiiiiiii]

I honestly think that 12 to 16 hours of typing a day is bad for your wrists (and other parts of your body) and not necessarily the keyboard. Our bodies are not designed for this kind of behaviour. No offence, but I think under these circumstances you would have problems regardless of which keyboard you are using.

[@GothicKittyMadness]

How does he sound so white?

[@JoachimPersonalAccount]

You got great speech, i watch a lot of big and small reviewers, you got smth special the way you speak and shoot your videos. You're gonna be up there with MKBHD ;) Trust me just keep it up!

[@dieaking6475]

I'm gone try this keyboard with gaming haha I'll see how it is. Still have a working ducky shine 3 but the key travel is to much, allot of times I mis type so let's see if this keyboard wil solve it.

[@Rednaxela1]

This product is beautiful - but I returned mine to Amazon as it did not connect well/on start up. Reports of others echo this but I am looking for a reason to buy a direct replacement. Comments welcome.

[@mediacousticsmultimedia7359]

"Apple makes some of the best keyboards on the world...." - Never laughed that hard before...

[@slizgi86]

Ok, so what you are using before it, or instead of it for every day? Apple Keyboard? With some extra palm rest?

[@ooiamsamoo]

Not really sure how to say this without sound a knob but you didn’t say why it’s so bad? Like, “this keyboard gave me strain” but then don’t give the reason why? Hmmmmm.

[@Civilian_Patriot]

Marketing is an amazing thing.

[@mariameyer3061]

Hey Terren, how are you? Great video! Loved it! I'm a Mac user, and wanting to get a Logitech for months now, I just saw Logi released two versions of Mx keys, one with Windows keys (but also mac friendly) and one exclusively for apple. My question is, I'm getting because of the smart lightening you mention and also for the calculator function ( I used it a lot) and also because it's insanely beautiful. But where I live I can not get the one exclusive for apple, so do you have any idea if the "Windows keys friendly one" version would have all the functionality you mentioned? Great content, love that you're super picky!

[@StefanConstantinDumitrache]

Both are basically the same, except for: -the inscriptions on some of the buttons -the inversed ALT/Option and Win/Command buttons -the cable included (USB3-USBC vs USBC-USBC on Mac). The general consensus is that you should get the regular one though, for more versatility between devices, and it also works just fine with the Mac, but you'll need your own charging cable or use an adapter, and you'll need to get used with the 2 flipped buttons.

[@ogotuwaobuto5366]

Lots of other reviewers say that it is aluminium.

[@cannotkazi]

I'm a simple man, I see 21:9, I click subscribe.

[@tharealhughglass8066]

You lost me at apple makes some of the best keyboards lol

[@davidgordon7457]

I would avoid this keyboard. I bought one 15 months ago, and the paint is coming off the command key. Logitech does not sell replacement keys, and the only third party key replacements have cmd|alt on the key and not command, so if i want to replace the key, it wont match the other command key. The only way i can see to prevent this from happening is buying a silicone skin to cover your keys, and that make the typing experience less enjoyable.

[@TeeKeeps]

Thanks

[@jamskof]

you just cant say its bad for long term use, this shows your immaturity, you say you type all day for your job.. therefore your conditioned for YOUR keyboards.. it can take years to get reconditioned for a new keyboard.

[@agustinm6109]

All you do is complain, maybe you have problems with your hands typing too much, one of the best keyboards ever.

[@laureanoalfaro9351]

Acopule of things, I don't know from where you got the idea that Apple has the best keyboards out there, in fact it's pretty far from that level unless we talk about the price, in this last aspect they totally achive their goal of overpricing them. About this keyboard, I have it and the backlight system should have been optional, if I want to keep it on and drain my battery faster, should have been my choice, more when it isn't as flawless as you've said man, sometimes it takes a couple of seconds to activate and anything depending the whole time to work this way, is susceptible of an issue in the long term. It should hace been optional also to at least have another height option to avoid pain in the wrists (at least is not as bad as some apple keyboards that are completely flat with also completely flat keycaps).

[@dessso4463]

Price is not the matter. Apple Keyboard 2 is absolutely amazing. It's easy for typing, and it doesn't have misscliks

[@ash4rel]

Why is his office in his kitchen tho 😳

[@someoneyouIoved]

bro with ur using type theres no any keyboard produced for you sorry. the keyboard is so comfy and good. theres no pain at my wrists

[@feralshad0w]

I think you sent it up that you are using the keyboard for 10 to 16 hours a day, it doesn't matter what keyboard you have you are just getting older and doing it too long.

[@aus_life]

It's actually also apple,Windows,Android, Linux compatible not just apple. Not a great review of this keyboard.

[@fabiowarner7796]

i have never disagreed more with a review

[@DakshBhandari]

#Mxkeys Loved the Video! Don't know if you've done something to the dimensions of the video, but this one's better for sure!

[@Panslapper]

This keyboard honestly can't be any worse than the often over hyped Apple keyboards. I think Keyboards are Apples weakest link in everything other than an on screen version in IOS! Take any second gen keyboard for Mac mini or iMac for example, the keys are terrible, to shallow, wear very easily and stiffen up way to early. Apples A1314 model pryor to the later versions is actually superior in almost every way. Deeper keys, stronger key build quality, 100 times better typing experience! The Trackpad 2 also really sucks compared to even a cheap Microsoft mouse. The Trackpad 1 and 2 is slow and very clumsy by comparison and is useless at fine adjustment, say on software EQing for example or any software that require fine adjustment.

[@akshaykrishna2319]

And this whole time, I thought it was made of aluminum. 😑

[@Mephistoph3l35]

It is, per the Logitech website. The video appears to be incorrect.

[@B121AN1]

“Apple made the best keyboard in the world” I mean, if you hate quality and your hand, they do make the best keyboard in the world.

[@christopher480]

you work 10-12 hrs a day in your kitchen at a counter on a stool.......perhaps if you sat at a proper desk you wouldnt have a prob with this keyboard.....i know i sure dont and im at my desk on one of these keyboards for 12 hrs a day.

[@zmast333]

3:56 "Apple makes some of the best keyboards in the world" Are you kidding me?

[@azku]

Well it's personal preference. I prefer low profile keyboards like the Apple magic keyboard instead of mechanical keyboards. Some people love mechanical keyboards. So yeah..

[@B121AN1]

@@azku if you throw preference out of the window, their keyboards still have durability issues. In general, Apple keyboards are well-built. But there have been many accounts of the keyboard breaking in several months. I’m not only talking about the butterfly keyboard here. The regular scissor switches also have this issue.

[@azku]

@@B121AN1 Cant comment on that as I've never owned an Apple keyboard. I've used the keyboard on macbook and I like the feeling.

[@TroyShields]

It would be helpful if you let the quality of your work dictate your potential subs. Asking viewers to subscribe once or twice is more than enough. Four and five is excessive.

[@zzzide]

100% right about the aluminum look on this. A shame how their top of the line 100 bucks keyboard is made out of plastic and not actual aluminum. That’s why most of these brands will always be behind Apple.

[@brugj03]

This is not top of the line, the G series are.

[@LovBoat]

4:15 get a girlfriend bro

[@kevvchann825]

Yeah this mans opinion is void. Apple keyboards aren’t great compared to Mx keys. You are way too bias towards apple.

[@aUCLZlstrBh5upnFr7OmhNHag]

I’d rather buy a wireless mechanical keyboard, way better imo

[@AKCHINAEXPLORER]

Your voice is super and fatastic. Thanks for your nice and very good informative video,

[@shafiqhamdan5461]

#mxkeys New subscriber here. Enjoying your videos. Keep it up!

[@TerrenRule]

Thank you!! So happy you are sticking around :)

[@22934760]

Any keyboard used for that length of time will create problems

[@chajam]

exactly!

[@testxxxx123]

Apple's own keyboards SUCKS

[@TramoTech]

👍

[@1stRanger]

Wait. It's not aluminum? Hahaha, wtf... For 120$ it's not even aluminum? Even Apple is not that greedy.

[@glorybackhk]

very heavy keyboard

[@alek6857]

Judging from your typing level, your wrist pain is 💯 % user error. I don’t think it was a hardware problem

[@ju2705s]

Bs