Logitech MX Mechanical Mini Brutal Review

[@ClutchKick2207]

Love the review! Really refreshing to see someone who isn't afraid to put their actual, unfiltered opinions on KZbin, and is unfortunately quite rare on KZbin. Definitely will continue following the channel, and I wish you the very best!

[@quillaja]

I'm glad you took it apart! None of the 1000s of other reviews have!

[@KeithHendrickson1981]

I bought the mini and the full size versions of the MX Mech keys. I love it. People need to realize this is a productivity keyboard, not really designer to be customized gamer keyboard. It is a wireless mech keyboard that works flawlessly out of the box. It wasn't designed for people who like to tinker or game. It was designer for like a office atmosphere where typing is what you will be doing. Great quality, and works great IMO.

[@rhinoTube]

I don't know why you would even put different key caps on it, this is really a good out the box keyboard for people who do work and don't care about modding

[@MrWh4327782]

it last 10 months, the most reliable wirless conection, a great bulid keyboard. low profile,. I love it.

[@jpt4409]

@@rhinoTube because abs sucks and Logitech cheaped out using abs while at the same time saying f you with non standard stabilizers

[@leowtyx]

@@jpt4409 Neither is better, it's preference.

[@jonessii]

@@jpt4409 no one outside of the keyboard "hobby" gives a shit about abs vs pbt

[@NoxSayin]

I agree the MX Mechanical Keyboard is not the best mechanical keyboard on the market, but I still think it is a very good keyboard overall: 1. The “Logi ecosystem” such as Logi flow, provide a very appealing and technically the best experience for multi device switching. It is the killer feature that won my heart. 2. The Battery life of the Logi Mx family keyboard is superb, it last up to 10 months of a single charge, no one in the market can optimise power consumption like Logi (and Microsoft, but Microsoft don’t have mechanical keyboard, yet Mac keyboard layout) 3. Logi Bolt is the successor of its Logi Unify USB connection, provide up to six devices in one single USB port, and better stability and connectivity than regular Bluetooth connection. It is £149 not a cheap one but I think with the advantages above, it is still a very excellent keyboard for system admins, developers who need to switch multiple computer, office people and 80%+ of the layman market.

[@matt3o]

I agree with all your points. But still a keyboard should be first of all a good keyboard. This is a terrible keyboard with a lot of commodities. I'm happy about the battery and the bolt and whatever but if the keyboard sucks as a typing device I can't recommend it.

[@NoztrozeR]

refreshing to see a review where nothing is held back, going deep into the build quality and structure of the product. Well done, and thank you for this thorough, brutally honest review.

[@m.testing1316]

I appreciate your opinion on the keyboard, and your expert perspective on it, but I also find your conclusion extremely harsh, especially considering this keyboard is oriented at a much different consumer than typical mechanical keyboards are. Here's **MY** situation: I've been looking for a mechanical keyboard for Mac with a Swiss layout for ages, and the only one I found is the "Swiss Developer Keyboard" by WASD Keyboards, which is around 25% more expensive than the Logitech MX Mechnical Mini. That WASD Swiss Mechanical Keyboard seems to be slightly better for my job (I haven't tested it yet though), but I'm honestly super excited that FINALLY a major brand is producing a proper, cross platform mechanical keyboard that is made for average consumers, office workers, writers, ... and many more people, outside of the US, and supports Mac and all kinds of languages (including Swiss) officially, BY DEFAULT. From a mechanical keyboard expert's point of view, this Logitech model might be garbage. I'm not going to argue with that, that's not my point. But it should be obvious that this keyboard was not made as a serious competition to the usual mechanical keyboards for gamers and enthusiasts. That market is full enough anyway already. It's more likely made for average consumers, writers, note takers, and anyone else, that simply want that mechanical experience. Especially for me, in Switzerland, working mostly on Mac, this keyboard is unique. It's one of only two in the world, as far as I know. That says a lot. Logitech is reaching people that otherwise almost certainly wouldn't really find any mechanical keyboard for their simple needs. And this deserves credit. I personally, and many people that will consider this keyboard, don't really want to customise the keyboard, nor do they have expert knowledge and experience on mechanical keyboards. I just wanted to give you my personal perspective and why this keyboard is not as worthless as you say it is. I'd appreciate if you wouldn't generalise your view and say that people shouldn't buy this keyboard at all, because you obviously haven't considered other perspectives. OR, do you have a few keyboards you could recommend for Mac, with a Swiss layout? If you do, I'd appreciate recommendations a lot! But if not, the WASD Developer and this MX Mechanical are literally the only choices I have, and they both look decent for my use cases. I don't care about Logitech, I don't feel offended, I appreciate people being honest about products. But clearly you missed some important points that deserved to be mention. I mean: you're literally saying: DON'T BUY THIS PRODUCT even though I have barely any choice if I want a mechanical keyboard. There's a reason I STILL after SO MANY YEARS don't have one. And this product makes it finally feel in reach for me.

[@matt3o]

thanks for your comment. I really appreciate it. If I told you to buy this keyboard I would be lying to you. The best way to be honest with you is to tell exactly how I feel about this product. This is my opinion, you came to a different conclusion. Our opinions can safely coexist. The keyboard quality (also the internals as I showed) doesn't reflect its price. That is pretty much undisputable. There are other factors in play like the Swiss layout in your case. You have to decide if these other factors are more important than the fact that the keyboard itself (as a typing device) is mediocre.

[@m.testing1316]

@@matt3o I understand. Sadly there are a lot of products where its quality doesn‘t justify the price, especially with big, profit oriented brands. That‘s why I usually try to avoid big brands. But I still think it‘s important to look at products from different perspectives and think about which end user it‘s intended for. And then there‘s the fact that some brands take advantage of a unique market position to set prices quite high. This can be done when the product is unique and no one else has it, or if the brand is very highly regarded or super well known. Logitech has, in my view, both of those things with this product. They‘re by far not the only ones taking advantage of such a position. But the only way to fight it in this particular case, is when other brands come in with similar products, but better and/or more affordable. I‘m not sure about other countries, but for anyone looking for a mechanical keyboard with Swiss layout, for macOS, this Logitech model seems to be the only option (apart from the WASD keyboard, but that one is made for developers specifically and doesn‘t exist in consumer friendly shops).

[@hskung9970]

I'm also a mac user, have been using this keyboard (brown switch) for about a month mostly for writing codes, and occasionally switch to ipad or iphone. The experience is pretty decent, the sound and the feedback of the mechanical keyboard key is quite pleasant (as someone who never use a new gen mechanical keyboard). However, compared to the original mx mini for mac, the doubling of the price is just too much.

[@JurajMarkoSK]

@@matt3o If this one is a no go, can you please suggest some alternatives? thanks.

[@Harvester88]

I have this one with the tactile switches and absolutely love it. It makes me want to type a lot.

[@tender.branson]

I actually like that they have Ctrl/Win/Alt button legends as 2-in-1 and not just additional keycaps for Win and Mac separately, because I'm going to use this keyboard with Win and Mac at the same time, just switching between systems, and I don't want to physically switch keycaps all the time as well.

[@kdietz65]

I get where you're coming from. What I see as it's reason for existence is that it's one of the very few 75% low profile keyboards on the market, and the only one I know of from a mainstream manufacturer with better QA resources than other manufacturers. It looks nice on the desk. The layout is compact. The battery life is excellent. The wireless connectivity seems much better than Nuphy or Keychron. The Logi Bolt receiver means you can use one receiver with other Logitech devices, such as the MX Master 3s mouse. It's more for businesses and people that just want to buy a keyboard and use it, vs. keyboard enthusiasts who want to mod their keyboards. For people who are not uber picky about the feel and sound of keyboards, it types just fine. Sounds to me like there are plenty of reasons for it to exist. If it had VIA/QMK support I would buy one for every computer I own. Without VIA/QMK support, it's not a good keyboard for Linux computers because Logi Options+ doesn't run on Linux.

[@camelcase811]

Well, I like mine. I use it mainly as a productivity tool (at which it excels in my opinion) and some gaming sessions too. The bolt receiver is pretty good, plenty responsive enough for gaming. I have the brown tactile switches which sound and feel pretty great to me. I do agree that the board is somewhat diminished if we can't change the key caps though - a fact made even worse if it was a problem easily avoidable. Logitech really need to sort that out.

[@hcoberdalhoff]

In my opinion, the appeal of this keyboard is the quality of the antenna and logic while being a basic mech board. We did try several wireless keyboards that also supported Bluetooth, and most of them are inferior to e.g. the MX keys from logitech in signal stability or latency. We (as our company) we’re thinking about getting these new boards for new employees because of the proven wireless and massive customer support support infrastructure of logitech. Thank you for pointing out the problems.

[@amnesia.-.]

Curious about why would you need customer support for keyboard,I mean its keyboard after all and will last longer than anyone who uses it.But I agree about great connectivity and its a good keyboard overall

[@chaseliu5011]

thanks for your honest review, but it seems like a lot of personal issues here. Firstly, I don't think this keyboard is for the traditional mechanical keyboard fans, it's just a productive tool to replace or provide one more option to the MX lineup. Secondly, I don't like your keycaps at all, their lineup is meant for low-profile styles. So I really don't care if I can swap to other keycaps for now. The other thing that keeps me buying mx line is the logitech flow as I have to work between 3 computers everyday. I'm sure you can build whatever keyboard you want, but your review is actually not helpful to the targeted market here, maybe to the keyboard fans like yourself.

[@matt3o]

that's why the review is honest :D it's how I feel about it. that's all. The keyboard is bad and overpriced. if all the other features it has overweight that fact... go for it!

[@chaseliu5011]

@@matt3o ture, but I strongly disagree the overpriced part. most of users don't care about customization, Logitech did not mention that as part of the feature so it's illogical to think you are even suppose to do customization on this keyboard. That's why I think your argument here is unfair and not helpful. You can say it lacks the ability of customization, but saying it's bad because it didn't do what it wasn't designed to do is your problem. A good product that has universal value should provide a good usability and user experience, which is not just the product itself, it includes many more.

[@HenrikWittenberg]

This review was actually really helpful to me as a former Logitech customer, who is looking for a mechanical keyboard with a 75 layout, because I'm now going to buy the "Keychron K3 Ultra-slim Wireless Mechanical Keyboard V2" (better quality, lower price and also with backlight and with wireless/wired option). 😉

[@cutesammie]

@@HenrikWittenberg Until you start flipping up to 5 switches in order to switch devices lol. That vs 1 button press on the MX mechanical.

[@HenrikWittenberg]

@@cutesammie I connect the keyboard via USB cable with my desktop PC and via bluetooth with my other devkces (laptop, Nvidia shield). No hassle at all …

[@paulhammond8583]

“I don’t care if you like and subscribe.” Instantly liked and subscribed.

[@zmast333]

2:38 Minor correction: it's a Logi Bolt, not Unifying dongle. I overall agree with your points. Those keycap legends annoy me and there was no reason to make the spacebar nonstandard. I wouldn't go as far as calling it "rubbish" though. It's fair to say there are valid alternatives. IMHO, there are a couple of things that make the keyboard appealing to some people: 1. Non-ANSI layouts available. Keychron did some ISO options on their 75% keyboards, but not on the 100%. And, if Logitech made an ISO-IT, it would be the only low-profile mechanical keyboard on the market, to my best knowledge. 2. It comes with a dedicated USB receiver with encrypted communication. One could take the encryption for granted, yet I discovered a month ago that the Nuphy Air75 receiver was not (they admitted so in their Discord).

[@matt3o]

hey thanks for your comment! I have over 1h of footage but ultimately I stripped the video to few minutes because the keyboard can have all the best features in the world... but it has to be first of all a good keyboard. This is a terrible keyboard at a very high price. I might still consider it if it costed 90-120e... but at 160e it shouldn't exist.

[@ko_tech]

@@matt3o I agree that it is overpriced and it would make more sense if it costs around 100 euros. But I don't think the majority of target buyers are gonna mind the keycaps and that the spacebar has a non-standard stab position. I believe most buyers of this keyboard care more about convenience than customizability. And sure, it's mostly made of plastic but it's sturdy according to other reviews. And plastic is fine IMO, sometimes even better (less sharp noises, unless it's properly dampened), as long as the price is right (which it isn't atm).

[@darthenx2585]

I agree that's its over priced, but in my opinion it's a great productivity keyboard that is not meant to be customized by the typical end user. I have had no issues with the key caps either

[@Ovidiu268]

Thank you for the video and the disassembly! I have a G613 and apart form the numpad which makes it HUGE, I love it. I was initially interested in MX Mech Mini, but I'm still deciding. I want to have exceptional sexy time typing with my keyboard if I'll pay a ton of money for it. The fact that it switches between 3 devices with 1 receiver that can be used also for the mouse is great, (keyboard and mouse for work and home computer with a switch of a button)

[@syawkcab]

For the stabilizer placement, I think they're following the standard set by keychron for their low profile keyboards. I think keycap for Logitech and keychron k3 should be interchangeable

[@MatixYo]

Can someone verify if they are indeed interchangable?

[@nikolajpetrov8262]

👀

[@honrandoajesucristo]

X2

[@cutesammie]

@@MatixYo They are, except for the spacebar.

[@AmitChaudhary]

And shift

[@StickyPlasters]

Too late I bought one. Main reasons: I hate gamer aesthetics. Wanted something that would look nice in an office and go with my MX 3. I don't care for RGB. Also wanted mechanical but not too loud to piss off co workers. I do hope better keycaps come on the market though.

[@jinraigami3349]

" I hate gamer aesthetics." Keychron keybs are for that. "I don't care for RGB". Same. So white backlight is a must. "Also wanted mechanical but not too loud to piss off co workers." Go for Linear switches then.

[@StickyPlasters]

@@jinraigami3349 I don't like linear, or the look of keychron, although I do appreciate its good value

[@whirl9988]

Enjoyed your unbiased review mate, looking forward for more :)

[@alang253]

IMO if you want something custom then you are better off building it, rather than cursing logitech. This keyboard is for a different audience. It ticked off a lot of boxes for me and I did put nuphy75 keycaps (where they fit, the ones that don't still match- watch switch and clicks video) and I absolutely love mine.

[@aahsimovieprojects]

love mine as well.

[@DarkDreamer_]

It looks like some kind of conspiracy. Why the hell do all low profile keyboards with cross-shaped stem switches have to use non-standard stabilizers? WHY???

[@navmeet7]

Great review. Only if i had seen this before purchasing one. Can you please suggest a good brand of double shot PBT keycaps for this keyboard along with a purchase link ?

[@hussainmahmoud7881]

Thank you for the honest review, agree to what you said, I got it open box from Amazon for around 100. Still think to get the Nuphy keyboard instead (The battery life on Logitech is amazing though)

[@fun2rideadventure]

I was almost to buy the MX Mechanical Logitech but too many minuses :( ...... I am going with Keychron ... they offer many options in customisation :)

[@Primoz.r]

Okay, if it is that bad and we shouldn't buy it, is there another option of a mini layout keyboard, that is mechanical, wireless, has a dongle (essential of it's wireless!), is low profile and has an ISO layout? I also require a slovenian legend and this one comes closest to ticking all the boxes, as soon as replacement (blank or custom printed) keycaps will be available.

[@ghost_of_m403]

Keychron K2 is kind of almost there. Although your comment was written a while ago, I'm surprised there haven't been many responses. I honestly don't know about the standard ISO options for it. There are so many options, one has only to look.

[@srjuanjo]

Thank u the only thing that I did like about the keyboard is the battery

[@MikeJB6]

It is a garbage keyboard for the price. Well done for being so honest about it.

[@MrDienkhanh82]

I am in a market a productivity keyboard. I want wireless keyboard with good battery life and logitech is the only option in that regard. I also want to customize they keycaps. This video is very helpful. Thank you.

[@AY-gf3jq]

The reason I am eyeing this keyboard Is that Logitech offers ISO-FR unlike other keyboard manufacturers.

[@amnesia.-.]

Never trust man with squares on his desk

[@prava163]

lol, amazing to see you here on youtube. I still have a DSA carbon keyset I bought from you years ago!

[@ΚυριάκοςΓ-ζ5β]

Hello and thank you for this video. Which is your alternative of choice around the same budget (red/brown switches)? I am not interested in changing the buttons to custom ones and have been in love with the normal mx keys and its battery life in the past so i was really close to buying this

[@matt3o]

it's a very difficult question to answer, I tried Niz, keychron, minila and they are all fine. Check my discord if you want to have a chat discord.com/invite/xBVuZnjDM2

[@MauricioPlaza]

so i can change the keycaps for something like a XDA profile? I do like this keyboard just because the wireless and battery life if the Keychron was 2.4 wireless i would go for that

[@gambitgambitgambit]

That space bar issue really pisses me off also, wow

[@estebanguerrero682]

I really needed a honest review about the price in perspective, thanks man

[@VidVayder]

Love the honesty!

[@danielvillacis6036]

Thanks a lot for the review! I was planning to buy one and add a custom set of keycaps but the different space bar size from standard is definitely a no

[@priyavardhanpatel6155]

thank you for such an honest review sir much appreciated, but have some questions could you please ans those. 1.) what is the profile for the keycaps? 2.) do these keycaps hit the plate? if yes then which raws are hitting the plate? and could you please provide the link for the keycaps please I wanna use for my nuphy air 75 low profile keyboard. thank you once again.

[@matt3o]

the keycaps that I tried are PBTFan cherry clones. They don't hit the plate by a whisker. They are easy to find with a google search.

[@priyavardhanpatel6155]

@@matt3o thank you so much

[@datamonster3212]

I just want a small keyboard that has a sensible layout, full size arrow keys, and can easily switch between my work and personal laptop. Couldn't care less about the mechanical BS like "clicky" buttons etc. So, it's perfect for me.

[@Thefreaklander]

I was literally one click away from buying this keyboard but I see Logitech "pulled an Apple" here in terms of customization so I'm gonna look elsewhere. Thanks for the great review!

[@ivandrofly]

Bought one but it came in US-ISO layout and I had to rebuy another one from United States in order to get the US-ANSI layout!

[@Dany-em6xi]

I really like your review, thank you for your honesty. I do actually purchase the keyboard but I'm not an expert on it and indeed I do feel that I paid to much for it. Do you have any recommendations with similar characteristics? Small mechanical keyboard with Bluetooth and the possibility to connect more devices? Thanks!

[@cutesammie]

Try KLIM SHIFT mate. I am typing this reply on it. I have the Logitech MX mechanical mini as well (the tactile quiet keys) and it is the best keyboard I have ever used. Period! No regrets at all. I bought the KLIM SHIFT because of MX mechanical's limited customizability and to also slow down it's wear and tear. I bought mine on amazon UK if that is helpful for you.

[@juusu]

Have you tried the razer blackwidow v3 mini? I was considering the logitech board, but the non standard spacebar is now putting me off. would the razer be a good alternative?

[@rhinoTube]

You are comparing a productivity keyboard with a custom mechanical keyboard, I think this is a little bit expensive, but paired with a Logitech MX Master mouse and Logitech Flow software, for me this is perfect, I just went for the brown switches, blues are obnoxiously loud in my opinion

[@matt3o]

it's just an expensive bad keyboard. the non-mechanical version has better value.

[@rhinoTube]

@@matt3o I still prefer the mechanical, it has a better key layout, I use the home and end keys all the time, and I find it more comfortable to type on

[@MotoOMG]

luckily, the switches are good. I don't really care about the keycaps.

[@JurajMarkoSK]

Hello @Matt3o. Thanks for your video. I'm currently looking for a new mechanical low profile wireless keyboard for under 200$ with the ability to switch between multiple computers and I was planning to buy the mx mechanical. The led backlight is not must for me, but it is a nice feature which I would prefer. Can you suggest some alternative to it since according your video it does not make sense to buy this one? Thanks

[@matt3o]

the non-mechanical version of this keyboard is better priced and has the same features. They made a mechanical version just because it's cool, but they failed miserably. Otherwise you can look at the NIZ keyboards.

[@JurajMarkoSK]

@@matt3o Thanks for fast reply. Can the bt versions of NIZ keyboards connect to multiple devices and quickly switch between them? I didn't find it on their webpage.

[@BugDude1]

I bought this keyboard and I am completely satisfied! This is a premium keyboard that feels very high quality! It's made for people who want to work with it and not play around with it. This guy is not objective and talks nonsense

[@matt3o]

I'll try to say this one more time: I am not objective! This is my own opinion not filtered by youtuber's dynamics. But still the keyboard has a terrible value. The not mechanical version is a better investment.

[@mareklewandowski9727]

The left Shift button is too short. It's very difficult to use. The function button is on the right side. Left side is more intuitive.

[@RacingRalphEVO]

Any plug and play alternatives that use a wireless USB dongle? The USB dongle is a MUST for me, since I oftentimes do something in uefi/grub menus and early consoles so a BT keyboard is a no-go.

[@Mahoganegnog]

Was the PCB detachable from the top plate? I'd like to try and spray it black but don't want to damage anthing. It might not be good value, but this is the only keyboard on the market that satisfies my very specific list of criteria so I'm still considering it.

[@matt3o]

no, you can't remove the plate without desoldering the switches

[@tahadam1]

I like your honesty, I was going to buy it because it's one of the only low profile mechanical keyboard in ISO-FR (maybe even the only one). I came across an opportunity for a Keychron v3 in (ANSI) that I am looking forward to. If you had to compare them what would you say? Im an early newbie on this keyboard world

[@matt3o]

keychron at least are priced according to their value. Unfortunately I don't have the K3 but considering it costs 1/3 of the logitech I'm sure you'll have no regrets. I'm considering getting a keychron to make a comparison anyway...

[@marcoteo1983]

thanks for your honest review!

[@sayednab]

it really amazes me, that this keyboard is priced so high and its basically shit. because their mouse mx 3s master is very good. Which keyboard would you suggest? I have been eyeing keychron k3 v2 and nuphy air 60. what do you recon? I am a Mac user.

[@TheVorst]

Sorry, I respect your opinion. But write this message with this keyboard on a Mac. And I love it. I have the membrane keyboard also from Logitech (K780). And the Apple one. I love this keyboard. I don't see the point of changing the keys on the keyboard. First of all the keys must be able to pass the led light underneath (which may not be the case here). If you don't like the original keys, don't buy this keyboard. Also mechanical keys in the review are based on the blue keys. I have the brown keys (most keyboards are sold like that as default). They give a much less click noise. Also you have other features that makes this keyboard shine. I can switch between my Mac PC, Windows PC and iPad with this keyboard with one touch of a button.

[@MrWh4327782]

Hi mate, could you find out any other keyboard that match this low profile switches, 10 months battery life without backlight, 4 devices wireless connection, high quality abs keycaps, touch sensor blacklight, enough customized function key, mechanical keyboard. all you saying is about play with the keycaps, you may love pbt but there are many of us perfer the abs soft touch feeling. I play with alot keyboard before, customized feel of them from KBD fans and many other brand, but for the keyboard that I would like to bring to workplace, I will take this logitech. BTW, try to use the logitech blot or flow function, once, you get use to it , you will love it.

[@user-fi6hg8vq6c]

Agreed. I think if you're a keyboard enthusiast and customizer, this keyboard is not for you but it is a great mechanical keyboard with premium software. I do agree that it is overpriced though. You can get a "similar" keychron build for much cheaper.

[@behystudio]

Play this at 1.75 for more smooth video (great video overall tho)

[@dcarpenter85]

Don't buy it because it doesn't fit the random custom key caps I want to use? Lol. Wtf is this review.

[@Muldoonite]

do you prefer the Keychron K3 as an alternative to this?

[@matt3o]

Definitely

[@Muldoonite]

@@matt3o Cool, will look into it!

[@bill3117]

Could you recommend a better, mechanical mini style keyboard?

[@michgolov]

You wuld buy it for its flawless wireless function and battery life. Don't be a hater no matter what pros it has. There are problems no doubt and big ones but you are referring to this keyboard as it is trash completely

[@001anthony]

Me in the first half of the video: Hmm yes, maybe this is actually a mechanical keyboard I can get for my dad (I bought him a Ducky Shine 3 a while ago and he used it for a day before going back to his unbranded chiclet-style rubber dome). When I saw this spacebar stab spacing: LMAO ok wow fuck this.

[@Nizzon.]

It does have a purpose but you just erased it. Putting high profile keycaps on a low profile keyboard kind of deafeats the purpose of the keyboard being... low profile!

[@rickshay4656]

no it doesn’t. the purpose of low profile is two fold: don’t need a wrist rest and lower travel. you shouldn’t be using a wrist rest regardless of the keyboard - most ergonomic to have wrists in the air. and the travel is the same regardless of the keycaps. so really this is just making the keys not feel like shit while preserving the short travel

[@ScaryGuyID]

logitech just use spacebar, but the k3 from keychron.. uh...

[@VishwaKolkar]

"This keyboard has no reason to exist" thank you!

[@alexandrlutsenko6733]

Thank you for this honest review! I really feel the same - extremely wanted this product having the hopes to get premium quality for the price. Reality - this is nothing more than an overhyped and extremly overpriced product. Keycaps feel super cheap, my board had a problem with the rubber feet symmetry, which lead to play one of the angles while typing on another. So, I get rid of the item after 2 days of use and really suggest avoiding it.

[@Cab895]

LOL genuinely made me laugh, You gained a subscriber.

[@eduardobritoalarcon6407]

Dude, you are insiping! I was going to click on purchase because I have a logitech bolt for my MX Master 3S, but with you video I will not pay for that keyboard even it is recommended by a lot of publitubers.

[@thereefstop8916]

Excellent review! I agree with the points you made, for 160euros they couldn't throw in a few extra separate keycaps for apple/windows. Also don't like the fact that you can't have a wired connection. No swappable keys etc Way too overpriced for this product. Can you please make a video to recommend a keyboard for non-gamers

[@rukiroka1827]

I also change the caps to pbt, and I use the default one for space bar. Really hate that. Same as you. 🗿🗿🗿

[@needammo1983]

I want to change every switch to Cherry ones.

[@muntasirmahmudsaif6239]

can anybody suggest how can I install the spacebar? what is the size of this spacebar? 6.25u ? how can I mod spacebar to fit into it?

[@samuele5931]

I think keyboard e enthusiast should debunk the fact that all cheap rubberdome keyboard are bad. Under a certain level of quality a mechanical keyboard is not better than a well done cheap mechanical keyboard but it cost a lot more. This is my opinion but I would like to know what you think about it.

[@matt3o]

I agree. This keyboard in particular is worse than a decent rubberdome

[@samuele5931]

@@matt3o I needed a cheap keyboard to use it a home for sporadical working at home as a developer and self-formation. I decided to go with the Perixx 106m, a retro keyboard inspired by the model m. It' just a membrane with abs keycaps and not bluethooth but the sound is good (imho) and it feels ok. I am not really a fan of mechanicals keyboard because the buttons stops immediately when they hit the board without any cushioning (I think others refers at this as mushiness). Topre looks like what I was searching but they are too pricey to justify the expenses for at home use. Keycaps are laser printed and the keyboard being beige I think will look ok even when keycaps will start to shine (something that eventually even pbt will do afaik). There are not many review in the web. But to me that is a *good enough* membrane keyboard that is actually also nice to look at it. So if you would like to test a good cheap membrane keyboard I recommend this model, the Perixx 106m, even though keep in mind that I am not and expert in keyboard.

[@DavidFregoli]

"I cannot change the spacebar so this keyboard is crap" 🤣 ok bro

[@matt3o]

let's put it in simple words. Keyboard is expensive crap. Only thing that could slightly improve it is custom keycaps but you can't change them, so you've now got a nice 150$ paperweight.

[@shinjiku01]

Don't be mad at this guy for his honest opinion. I stopped buying Logitech when they starting making way overpriced crap which has been more than 5 years.

[@gabrieledoria2896]

@@matt3o you are right with all the cons of the keyboard. One things that you need to consider is the bluetooth. I bought a Logitech membrane keyboard for my mother at 40/50€ only for the bluetooth pairing becaue the other brands have not a stable and easy pairing

[@matt3o]

@@gabrieledoria2896 40/50euro is expensive for a rubberdome... but still okay. You pay for the brand, does what you need (bluetooth) and few regrets. This is a 160euro keyboard we are talking about!

[@gabrieledoria2896]

@@matt3o are there other known brands that sell a keyboard with good software for bluetooth, mechanical switches and low profile for less than 150€?

[@BookClubDisaster]

Bunch of gamers and keyboard "hobbyists" not understanding this keyboard isn't meant for them. Logitech makes gamer keyboards too, but this is for office workers, writers, etc. For that purpose, it's awesome. The blue switch version anyway.

[@ZanderSwart]

I would paypal $50 for this level of honesty

[@yusuf8882]

whay type the keycaps?

[@jeffreylee6322]

Do you think someone could put foam in below the pcb?

[@matt3o]

I'm trying to find a way to make it better. I'll hopefully post about it soon

[@readysetmoses]

Keyboard enthusiast in your case means keyboard snob. Let people like what they like maybe and spend their money how they see fit.

[@tylerhuntley9454]

All low profile wireless mechanical keyboards are so disappointing. How can they all get it so wrong?

[@TheSyberglitch]

This is not a review at all. I would understand if this keyboard were advertised as hot swappable and it's not. This keyboard is not the one where you have an expectation to replace the keycaps. I do not understand what kind of review this is. You did not test or shown any other feature of this keyboard except keycaps and not being able to replace them. It looks to me like reviewer bought it by accident and now bragging on KZbin about it. What about linear switches and tactile brown one which are other options for this keyboard (not just blue one you used on the one you reviewed).

[@ashleyleonardoginsberg8012]

Is there a keyboard you recommend with a mini layout & arrow keys? I recently bought your Elvish key caps and I was looking at this keyboard to use with it, but I’m glad I watched this video since the space bar can’t be swapped! Hot swappable would be nice, but not a must have.

[@matt3o]

that's really hard to answer. depends on your budget and the kind of product you are looking for. Maybe chime in into my discord discord.gg/xBVuZnjDM2 to get better recommendations

[@lucasmancini2]

Great Video!! Especially the F you part :D:D!

[@Noah_wie]

The reason why this is kind of my only option is because i need the logi dongle to connect to my company laptop. On our laptop bluetooth is blocked but i want a wireless keyboard and mouse. If amyone has another solution than logitech please comment 🙌🏼

[@jungminkim9134]

lol the space bar

[@samgao]

Typical logitech... just almost there... However, what logitech does VERY well that other companies do not, is the ease of the wireless (with their unifying receiver, and their logibolt receiver). You can use them in BIOS as opposed to other BT wireless keyboards, you cannot. You need a driver with certain programs, where logitech you cannot. If anything, Take the PCB, and mod it with standard stabilizers, and get a custom plate. Now you have a keyboard worthy of you "end game". Be the avenger!

[@wretchedworm]

i'm interested in getting into mechanical keyboards but i'm not sure if any of them can do what logitech can do with the 3 bluetooth connections. Can someone tell me if that's possible if i decide to build my own?

[@FriendlyNeighbourlyPerson]

I was looking for this answer also. I read through some of the comments and @Matt3o said this "I'm using a NiZ with bluetooth with no problem and a Filco Minila." These brands do offer a bluetooth with support of 3 devices. I am no expert on mech bluetooth keyboards though and still looking for options

[@wretchedworm]

@@FriendlyNeighbourlyPerson i ended up getting a keychron. They have a similar feature.

[@svcodemonkey]

Finally! An honest review of this piece of garbage. I just wish the other reviewers of this board had some integrity.

[@AbdulkarimAlkhawli]

Lol the review was going good until you got mad over that space key.

[@jed271]

Wdyt about logitech mx keys?

[@matt3o]

it's cheaper and can't be worse than this one, so...

[@jed271]

@@matt3o can or can't?

[@allvisualmedia7575]

Dude, just buy keychron slim keyboard.

[@stevethea5250]

8:20 dealbreaker..

[@jbrown-acuity]

lol

[@unskeptable]

Name a better cheaper alternative.... Yeap.. you can't because it does not exist.

[@fauntfrancisco]

LOL!

[@vitapumpkin4732]

this guy watched too much custom keyboard videos xd

[@JamesSmith-ix5jd]

any keyboard you didn't make by yourself is rubbish

[@matt3o]

damn right :D