Logitech vs Thrustmaster: Which is the Best Budget Wheel?

Best budget wheels under $250: Thrustmaster vs Logitech
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[@JamBoomerach]

5:11 I have owned the G29 for over 4 years and the only damage I have is the paint on the little blue strip at the top of the wheel has rubbed off. Apart from that, the wheel is still good after 900+ hours on racing games. pretty good wheel in all honesty and does the job

[@Blown_engine]

Same here after 4 years of having the TMX

[@zoofl8947]

@@Blown_engine been thinking of getting the tmx pro cus I just returned my t80 and wanted to upgrade. The t80 worked well for 6 months never broke or anything no issues. Hoping better for the tmx

[@vilshe7449]

@@zoofl8947 If you really want an upgrade, you should definitely go for the T300 RS GT Edition. It's much better than the tmx

[@zoofl8947]

@@vilshe7449 on a budget, $250 lol

[@vilshe7449]

@@zoofl8947 Alright dude, the tmx is still a good wheel in my opinion

[@mqt5]

I'm not here so i can buy either the g29 or the t150, I'm here because of the level of production that you put in your videos, keep it up bro! 💯

[@OCRacing]

Thank you Moh! :)

[@Jm3208gaming]

@yaboydarealnigga clearly, you don't understand what he just said

[@DR-hh4ts]

Cringe

[@crispodispo]

@@DR-hh4ts of course, because complimenting a youtuber for the amount of effort they put into their videos is "cringe" 😐

[@muhammedsevdakarabulut9543]

@yaboydarealnigga mnkn

[@marcocretella9348]

My Thrustmaster T150 has served me well the past 5 years, and it would still serve me good. But i decided to upgrade - The rubber grip has gotten very sticky, and the table mount screw isn't the most stable but the quality of the internals is solid for the price. The plastic grip of the screw is easy to break when installing the wheel on a table, especially if you want to really tighten up the wheel on your desk. - After it broke two times, I've been pretightening the screw into then mount and just slid the wheel onto the table. The Force Feedback definetly isn't the best, far from it. But for beginners or casual Sim-driving/racing the wheel is perfectly good. I played on 60-70% force feedback strenght most of the times, because i had a wobbly desk, but also because the force feedback didn't clip as much and preserved detail. Even though it lost strength because of it, it made much more fun to play with more details. The Thrustmaster eco-system also comes in handy if you're having fun in the long run, because you could get the three pedal set and the shifter as you mentioned. And if you want to upgrade the wheel base, it isn't a problem because the eco-system also works on other wheel-bases. That's a way to save a little bit of money if you want to upgrade to more serious stuff. The buttons after five years have shown it's age though, at least on my t150. - Some of them were double-clicking or even triple-clicking on some occations, which made it really annoying to do actions (for me, turning on lights in Euro Truck Simulator 2). It still was usable, but with the other issues i had (sticky grip and damaged screw), it made it somewhat annoying to use. - Put some kind of bicycle grip tape on the wheel to prevent that, or use it when it's needed. Another solution would be to get sim-racing/driving gloves, although it deminishes the already weak force feedback of the wheel. All in all, it's a solid racing wheel that could last 10 years, if handeled properly and having the luck on not getting a faulty product, which can happen to anyone, if we're being real here. I personally had more issues with Logitech-wheels with the quality side of things. My Driving Force GT started smoking after the FFB-motor died, and friends of mine had software-problems with the G27 and also the G29 on the PC. - But I've also had some other friends around me that are very happy with the Logitech wheel. In conclusion, if you can get the g29 for 200€ (new), go for it. The build quality is better compared to the T150, and the force feedback seems even or a tad bit stronger than the one of the T150. On the other hand, if you can get the T150 Pro (with the 3-pedal set) for around the same price, I'd personally go for that one, simply because of the upgradability path and my previous experiences with both companies' wheels. I hope i helped you guys with that. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

[@pasztorferenc6741]

Do you have experience with T300?

[@marcocretella9348]

@@pasztorferenc6741 No I'm sorry, I don't have any experience with it. I got myself the Thrustmaster TS-PC Racer used in new condition for 350€. - You can compare it to the Thrustmaster T-GT or the Thrustmaster TS-XW.

[@zl_390]

will swapping the t150 steering wheel to different steering wheel affect the ffb too? seems like the most common complains is the steering became sticky after some times

[@pasztorferenc6741]

@@marcocretella9348 Thank you for answering

[@marcocretella9348]

​@@zl_390 I haven't tried it, but I've heard that the force feedback feels weaker when going for a bigger steering wheel rim. - If you do that, I'd get a similar sized wheel in your case. Other than that, I'm not sure how the force feedback gets affected when swapping the wheel.

[@matess3655]

Some G29 advantages you didn't cover: -although the force feedback is loud on rough terrain, the actual spinning of the wheel is smoother and quieter when driving slowly or on smooth surfaces -the force feedback can spin the wheel much faster than the T150 can, very noticeable when drifting -the G29's base is low profile and flat on the top, if you have an adjustable screen you can set it up so you can see your gauges through the wheel itself, just like in a real car -the stiff brake pedal is a feature, it only gets hard to push at about 65% of the travel, simulating the feel of the hydraulics in the brake pedal of a real car, it feels really good when you get used to it

[@tonyhong20]

I own a TMX pro and the T3PA pedals have a conical rubber stop that's very similar to the G29 pedals. When the G29 was $400, the Thrustmaster wheels were a bargain but that's not the case now when the G29 is much more premium feeling and has more buttons. I did a pretty common ball bearing mod to my TMX/T150 which replaced the plastic belt rollers and greatly reduced friction. The FFB feels more detailed and spins faster than stock, almost comparable to the G29 speed. But again, for the same price the G29 is a much better deal

[@kirkumii]

Also, you can't use a handbrake on the g29 if ur on ps5 or ps4

[@cassiusbramley8829]

kirkumii why is that?

[@kirkumii]

@@cassiusbramley8829 because it just doesn't support one

[@matess3655]

@Gustav have you ever driven a real car?

[@mr.j997]

I have had my G29 for 6 years now without any problems and I use it quite frequently. Best purchase I have ever made

[@victor_734]

For what games do you use it?

[@mr.j997]

@@victor_734 Mostly Euro Truck Simulator and Beamng

[@henarlol2947]

Found your channel the other day. Man, I wasn't expecting this level of quality from an 8,000 subscriber channel. Well done!

[@OCRacing]

Welcome aboard! :)

[@rayhib]

8k?! Whaaa?

[@weeznax]

100k now woah

[@brautografie593]

I’ve had the t150, absolute great wheel for the price! Soon gonna upgrade to the thrustmaster tx leather edition. Going to install magnet padel shift mod on that one

[@mika-xh1dx]

The tx leather edition is worth all the money I can say

[@eliasziad7864]

fuck

[@kingofclean1983]

I cant use a logitech wheel because i spin it so fast the wheel it always gets misaligned

[@SSmallwood]

@@kingofclean1983 i had one for 4 years and the list of problems goes on, going to a TM belt driven is worth it! i have the t300rs gt and ordered the csl dd, im ready for another huge jump in quality

[@kingofclean1983]

@@SSmallwood best affordable wheel T300RS I have one no problems

[@callsignpanzer7209]

3:37 I wont let that mis shift go unnoticed

[@Macrolith]

I was looking for this comment

[@dennisdavidov782]

I was also considering both but ultimately went with the T150 mostly because it costs 46% less in my region (while the G29 costs as much as the T150 Pro model).

[@olyxko]

Me too

[@SpecterNeverSpectator]

It's the opposite for me, the Logitech one is 200 while the thrust master is not even sold as much so the price can go up, plus I get a discount so it's. even less than 200

[@sebastiancerna8653]

@@SpecterNeverSpectator how did you get discount?

[@Spacebug111]

same, i got one for 119 pounds which was lucky

[@Akxyyy]

Same

[@BeasT-gw6fb]

Yesss this is perfect i was wondering which was better to buy. Thank you

[@OCRacing]

Glad it was helpful :)

[@GigaMiles]

Pls tell me which is better t150 or g29?

[@vMaxHeadroom]

Having owned the G29 for many years I can recommend it as a started wheel as it has everything you need out of the box with a good pedal set bundled in and the FFB is not bad at all, but if you are into sim racing in any big way, try to stretch to the Thrustmaster T300RS GT which is sometimes on sale and it a great step up from both the G29 and T150 etc...In fact a huge jump up...Good video...

[@AceYoPro]

Or the TX Leather edition, the rim itself feels alot better than the T300RS GTs rim and its the same price. Obviously the Leather edition is for Xbox or PC while the T300RS GT is for PS and PC so ye.

[@Wolviest]

@@AceYoPro bit the t300rs has 1080• degrees rotation

[@AceYoPro]

@@Wolviest Doesn’t really matter all that much if im honest, You don’t pretty much ever need more than 900 degrees.

[@Wolviest]

@@AceYoPro Ik but the TX leather edition cost almost 2x more than t300 😅

[@AceYoPro]

@@Wolviest When did it do that lol? Either you live in a really unfair country or I haven’t been paying attention. It’s basically the same price here in Norway.

[@angryoldcanadian3905]

I have a Thrustmaster T150 basic model, I agree that the pedals are poor quality, but I like the feel of the wheel. I mounted it on a playseat challenge and have been quite happy with the setup for starting out on sim racing.

[@JardTheRat]

I have the T150 pro model it's definitely worth the extra 50$

[@MachoMadness69420]

Had a T300 which crapped out after about a year. Since I didn’t have much faith in Thrustmaster after that, I bought a G29 as a replacement . Couple of years later it’s still going strong. I pretty much only use it for Gran Turismo and Dirt Rally 2.0 on my PS4 Pro, so it’s perfect for my needs.

[@grillmeisterflash]

the thrustmaster belts have issues - logitech is build to last

[@mw4518]

My favorite part about the Thrustmaster is cross compatibility. I started on a TMX (Xbox version of T150) and slowly started to get a shifter, new pedals, and I didn’t have to get a whole new wheel. And when I had the cash, I could just get a new TX base and it worked with all my old stuff

[@tommycoad7410]

I think this is my plan.

[@sheddy22]

yeah the fact that thrust master literally has universal parts that can be used for all of their wheels is the main selling point for me 😂

[@sheddy22]

im gonna definetly do your route, the shifter and new pedals are just ridiculously expensive 😂😂 wish i got the pro with the clutch pedal

[@mikeoleksa]

I've been looking at racing wheels for a long time and have just not been able to pull the trigger on buying one. This has to be the best, most comprehensive, comparison that I have seen.

[@iterminator309]

My vote is for the TMX Pro.

[@tmlmagee]

I just ordered a G920 last night! Super hyped to get it in, only paid 150 and it has the shifter!

[@OCRacing]

Sheeesh

[@Hasmas891]

G920 is good and i removed that black rubber and feels better

[@sadiesink_]

WHAT HOW WHERE

[@senokyt]

@tml where did you ordered it from? 😳

[@Christian-cr7mn]

Where?!?

[@MrMikap74]

The Logitech G29/G920 is by far the best entry level wheel. The leather rim looks great and even after a year of daily use its still looks like new. In fact, it still smells like rich leather. The FFB is pretty good and even a bit stronger than the TMX/T150 (2.2NM vs 2NM). If you don't have any experience with other wheels you will be blown away with the feedback, even with the slight notchy feelings of the gears. I was completely happy with my G920, untill the CLS DD came out. Just 4 weeks and I will finaly get mine.

[@DTFFP]

the Logitech is a rattling low quality pos to be honest. I bought it and returned it within hours. The rattle would not subside even if I decreased the force feedback in ACC, clunks a lot and the tiny wheel just makes it feel like a toy. Fanatec with the BMW 1:1 ratio replica wheel is fantastic, or the thrustmaster 1:1 F1000 wheel too.

[@f9oeks965]

@@DTFFP did you get another wheel

[@DTFFP]

@@f9oeks965 I went with the thrustmaster ts-xw with the sparco steering wheel. Big difference and you get a replica steering wheel so it’s full size. Logitech is 2.2 nm force, while this thrustmaster is 6.4. Great wheel for entry level.

[@tonyhong20]

Definitely. When the G29 was $400 and the TMX/T150 pro were $250, it was a bargain. Nowadays they cost the same and the G29 just feels more premium and has more buttons

[@LuisRivas-yb1gq]

@@DTFFP Bro u comparing a $150-250 wheel with a $500-1000 wheel. Shathefakap 💀

[@J_StLou1s]

You know its gonna be good when you get my attention before the video starts 😅

[@ko_hankinator]

My first ever wheel was a Thrustmaster T80, and it lasted me like 2 years (pretty good for the quality lmao), but the plastic pedals were the first ones to have problems on it. When I upgraded to a "beginner" T150, I intentionally chose the T150 Pro, and it was well worth the extra $50 for the T3PA pedals!

[@ast5515]

I returned the T150 Pro after a week specifically because of the T3PA. Lots of wobble. Squeaks constantly. Of course you can take it apart and lube it but that's something I refuse to do with something that's 3 days old and is under warranty. And there are no spikes for carpets. It's ridiculous at any price point. But you get the same pedals with the T300RS as well... G29 has wheel wobble and the brake pedal clicks. Returned that too. I tried to upgrade from a Logitech DFGT and I honestly think there are no wheels worth considering under 300 dollars. Which is an issue because I don't use a wheel enough to justify buying a more expensive wheel.

[@Evosti]

@@ast5515 smthn wrong on your end bro my brakes fine and wheel doesnt wobble

[@sheddy22]

@@ast5515 probably because your Force feedback is high asf, its a big problem with the G29 series and TMX/t150

[@sheddy22]

@@Evosti his setup is just wrong bro wasted mad money, if you're getting a beginner cheaper wheel like the tmx or G29 dont have high ass ffb cuz it will wobble no matter what, plus the pedals arent that bad other than the fact they look like they wont last a while 😂

[@ast5515]

@@sheddy22 You're making assumptions. I never maxed out the force feedback on my DFGT and I certainly didn't come close do maxing out either the T150 Pro or the G29. Both the wheel wobble and the clicking brake pedal are known issues on the G29. The squeaky pedals are a known issue with the T150 Pro. Just because yours is fine (or more likely you're blind and deaf and don't notice obvious problems), doesn't mean none of them have issues.

[@hondabro2999]

I have had the the T150 for .... like 2 years now and it's a pretty good wheel I have a friend who has a Logitech and he said that its pretty good all depends on what you like

[@jauhis_]

tbh, on sim racing it's not about the looks it's about the performance, also personally i prefer the rubber on my t150 and i feel like i have better grip with it. And the better ffb is a huge thing for me

[@TheQuackleDKZ]

You actually can use the logitech shifter as a standalone. It just requires a dongle.

[@velkejpu5721]

yes true

[@festa289]

On console?

[@LemoNjuice0420]

@@festa289 I don’t believe so

[@stefanstefan2105]

i will be doing this to my t150

[@zhongxina7834]

Fact check, true, I really like using it with my keyboard

[@rmitchell1]

I have had my T150 for well over 5 years and it's been a fantastic wheel. Someday I will upgrade to a T300 wheel but that someday might be in the far future

[@StrikerFin]

Have mine for over 5 years too. Only issue is the rubber on the wheel almost completely gone.

[@iterminator309]

Yeah, about the rubber, I ran with gloves, and my holds up pretty well.

[@grillmeisterflash]

skip the T300 and move to direct drive directly

[@virtualawakening2299]

The torsion spring in the brake pedal of my T150 snapped after just 2 weeks of use. Luckily, my local hardware store had some. I walked into GameStop and found the T150 for 150 bucks and bought it on impulse in 2022 and thus began my sim racing career. I love it for the cost.

[@Angeldark8500]

long time TMX Pro owner here: i really love my TMX but my friend owns the Logitech G920 and the modability keeps it alive way longer

[@rz6634]

I've been waiting for you to make this video for forever now. But Its finally out now about to watch it for the first time. Thanks OC

[@OCRacing]

Hope you enjoyed Reagan :)

[@rz6634]

@@OCRacing you actually replied wow. That's dope

[@OCRacing]

@@rz6634 I reply as often as I can 😅

[@rz6634]

@@OCRacing ok sick. That’s double now

[@isaacabernathy8819]

one big reason i’m getting tmx is cause with thrustmaster later on after having t3pa pedal and shifter i can upgrade just the wheel and not have to get a whole new setup

[@nonplusultra18]

Isn't it possible to use the Thrustmaster peripherals with adapters while using the Logitech wheel?

[@_Toralu_]

The gigachad move would be combining the T150 with the Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Throttle Quadrant

[@smhily]

A demonstration of both wheels' noise levels would've been nice, that's the main thing I'm worried about - hearing "BRRRRR" every time I turn

[@slimbob7553]

It’s a shame that nobody has responded to this. Everyone says it’s loud but also fails to mention that it only happens when on rough terrain. The majority of the time, my G29 is nearly silent and my pedals are making more noise than anything *unless* I’m driving on dirt or off-track. Still pretty quiet overall.

[@Bandit-Darville]

My opinion as a T300RS owner: The Logitech G29 should come standard with the H-Shifter for 250 bucks. (like they did with the G25) The Thrustmaster T150 is at best, a 150 bucks wheel. (not 200+) Anything 250+ bucks, one should start considering a T300 or better.

[@williamsurya2508]

man i wish my country have that price. The T150RS and the G29 costs 300+ usd here :(

[@mattBLACKpunk]

Awesome, I was waiting for this one! Great video!

[@OCRacing]

Thank you! Hope it was helpful :)

[@mattBLACKpunk]

@@OCRacing it really was, I think I'm gonna go with the t150 for the better ffb and since you can buy it for 140€ here. I'll probably pick up a used set of t3pa pedals since the pro isnt priced that well

[@Henrix1998]

About trucksims, the buttons on G29 are far more important than the extra 90 degrees rotation on both sides on T150. The two biggest issues with G29 are the deadzone in the middle and rattling which comes from loose gears

[@spechar]

As for the build quality and sturdiness of Logitech wheels, I have owned a Logitech G25 since it's release and used it heavily and it still works perfectly. Only issues I've had have been with the shifter. I've had to take it apart and tighten the inside screws few times and once I had to solder a piece of wire to the switch that controls reverse. I have heard that some G27s and G29s suffer from overheating when playing for long perioids, but this can be fixed by cutting fer holes to the case or even adding fans. As for what you said about the Logitech pedals and the "too stiff" brake pedal, I see that as an upside and have even replaced the springs so that the pedals are even stiffer. Finally, Logitech pedals can be disassembled and mounted upside down (which I have also done) very easily.

[@jjimapro9756]

You can use the Logitech shifter with t150 just not on console if you are on pc there is no limit to what you can use together just thought I’d point that out further anyone shopping right now

[@5.3_Nick]

4:20 wrong with a adapter the Logitech shifter will plug directly into the PC allowing you to use it with a thrustmaster or any other wheel, I know this because I bought the Logitech shifter with my t150 and later upgraded to the thrustmaster shifter.

[@migas114]

Came looking for this comment to see if I had to write this myself. Here, take a like and get yourself higher on the comment section!

[@5.3_Nick]

@@migas114 thank you!

[@xanderledford1401]

So is the shifter usb?bc I'm on ps4 and want to know if it'll work?

[@5.3_Nick]

@@xanderledford1401 the Logitech shifter has an adapter to turn it into usb, idk if it will work on PS4, you have to do some more searching

[@natewilson6812]

@@xanderledford1401 If you have the g29 the shifter will plug into the wheel base then the wheel base plugs into the ps4 via usb as normal, but if you are using a t150 im not sure it would work with the adapter on ps4. It will work on pc but console is questionable. If you already have the t150 I recommend just saving up for the th8 as its a better overall shifter any ways

[@redactedvr8888]

Me and my heavily modified G 920: hmmm

[@manuelhernandez2017]

Another great upload. I just recently bought the G920. Thank you for the awesome quality content you're putting out. I'm looking now into purchasing a shifter.

[@OCRacing]

What shifter are you looking for?

[@manuelhernandez2017]

@@OCRacing I was thinking about something better than the Logitech add on. Your videos could probably point me in the right direction. The th8a is an option but I was also looking for any other H-pattern shifter that wouldn't cost as much.

[@manuelhernandez2017]

@@OCRacing I see based on your videos that you tend to lean towards sequentials, any particular reason? Just curious... Keep up the great work!

[@OCRacing]

@@manuelhernandez2017 I would actually prefer an H-pattern shifter over a sequential any day. I got sent a sequential shifter from Thrustmaster, hence why I use it. lol

[@TeoJunHao]

Using T150 using the T3pa pedal for 3 years and it still working well, just little cosmetic damages like the rubber grip on the wheel after hours of uses and i have tape it to improve my grip, I glad that previous PS4 wheels will be compatible with PS5 as well

[@mgoopioopi9322]

good to know

[@ayaan7017]

As a thrustmaster fan whos owned a Thrustmaster T80, TMX, Tx leather edition, T150. I can say the force feedback and feel of the wheels feel amazing another thing to note is you cant compare a standart t150 to a g29 you have to compare the t150 pro. Thrustmaster has been amazing high quality good racing feel and realistic ffb.

[@markwoodland3313]

This is a great review, I've owned the T150 and now have the G29 and agree the Logitech feels much nicer but it's just a bit noisier than the T150 which I can live with on my SIM stand.

[@ossie6198]

the g29 and g920 sounds like its breaking under load of the FFB especially if you try to counter steer or such. it sounds like there's gears in there and its making ratatatatatata sounds everytime and feels really jagged in ur hands.

[@peeqo]

Because there are gears in there

[@christian7496]

That feel is horrible to me, didn't like it at all, along with the central dead zone

[@thedailyhawker8726]

I just got a G920 open box for $100. Brand new otherwise. Works great and I’m looking forward to using it for the next couple years.

[@DarkPlays59]

is it still healthy and lasting now ?

[@thedailyhawker8726]

@@DarkPlays59 it is working perfectly. I also recently got a base for $30. A lot of people got sim gear during the pandemic and are tying to offload it now. I would look in the used market. Great stuff for incredible prices. Mostly barely used a few times.

[@DarkPlays59]

@@thedailyhawker8726 how long each day do you use it for and do you use it everyday ?

[@thedailyhawker8726]

@@DarkPlays59 I use it almost every day. Weekends for hours at a time and it’s holding on. I can see how using it hours on need every day maybe a concern but they’re pretty sturdy specially if you bolt pedals and steering wheel to a base.

[@AaronGoSoFast]

I haven't used a Logitech wheel. But I've had two thrustmaster wheels and they both crapped out within a month. One even lasted for just one f1 race weekend (100% event length). It worked fine for the first hour or so then it started registering split second left turns at full lock at random. I noticed it was also spewing alarming amounts of rubber dust out of the back of the wheel itself. So I am extremely weary of getting another thrustmaster. In a world of electronics designed to fail I'll take the Logitech any day. Also, if I didn't know any better I'd think "Thrustmaster" was an elaborate sex toy. I imagine some sort of jackhammer mechanism with several attachments that let you select the level of girth you'd like to recieve. Maybe a gimp suit comes with it. Do you think there was a mix up at the trademark office headquarters? And now there's a dildo out there called the Race Wheel 9000? And do you suppose it craps out after 1 use like their sim racing counterpart? Seems I got a little off topic. Fuck it. I'm posting anyway. I gotta quit using the youtube comments section as a convenient creative writing/journal entry platform. And POST

[@tunalad]

So that's what she meant when she told me to buy her the Race Wheel 9000 😳😳

[@jeffstevens6916]

I absolutely love the chaotic energy in this. It’s what I call fucking brilliant

[@adaddylicious1748]

Great comment mate

[@crispodispo]

I don't know what I just read... BUT I LOVE IT!!!!!!

[@RedPhilip0912]

i died after reading the first sentence of the second paragraph. I had the same impression when i first heard of thrustmaster

[@82turbo]

I was an idiot and sold my sim rig for like $600 because I stopped using it for a while, I just got back into it and I’m still dirt broke.

[@brandonwells4772]

I have owned both. I started off with the T150 when i was getting into iracing before i was sure it was something i would continue to do for a long time. after i fell in love with sim racing, i upgraded to the g920 simply mounted to my desk with pedals on the floor. today, the g920 is mounted on an Obutto Revolution cockpit and i have a machined wheel adapter and 35cm deep dish wheel on it, deep dish paddle shifters, I have mods for improved feel h pattern and sequential modes on the driving force shifter, and i also have modded the brake and clutch pedals for improved feel. even umodded, my vote would be logitech because it has less of a "toy" look and feel about it even though the "genuine leather" wrapped around the wheel definitely feels like plastic.

[@timeoffun5468]

You modded literally everything XD

[@wOOkieGms]

I have the G29, and from my experience, the TMX and the T150 has better button placement. On the G29 I have to reach for the buttons and in F1 this is crucial because there is so much buttons to press in a race, where I feel the TMX and T150 has much easier button placement and reach.

[@ninjakuben8217]

I've had the Logitech Driving Force Pro for over 20 years now and apart from the wheel being loud(which I don't remember if it has always been or if it got louder) and the force feedback not being great(which is to be expected). I have had 0 issues with it

[@lukabarra1714]

My first setup was a t150 with a logitech g29 shifter. You just need some wires, soldering stuff, and an arduino microchip. The code is very easy to find.

[@ngentitit]

I use a Playseat Evolution GT with a G29, Logi h-shifter, and TM Handbrake(drifting). In my point of view, I would def take the Logitech wheels. And besides, it IS pretty hard to drift with 1080 degrees, even with all the force feedback.

[@Ronaldinh0]

Owned g29 for 6 years, so now i will tell you all of the damages across these years 1. blue strip rubbed off 2. shifter paddels are moving 3. pedals cable broke so i had to buy new one 4. pedals had problems so i had to clean them XD

[@Massivelamer]

I’ve recommended 3 people to this channel already, the quality is out of this world. KZbins algorithm has gotta favor quality over quantity. Because even on the 99$ wheel you give it all you got. Thank you so much for making such great content!

[@JVL-ob8ld]

MY Thrustmeter Tmx Stripped the pully gear only after 6 months of use. I just recently picked up a Logitech g920 Wheel and its holding up great.

[@imaginox9]

Nice comparison ! Personnally I don't own any, I still rely on my old Logitech G27, but the G27 being the predecessor of the G29, and having used the G29 for a few minutes at a demo stand a few years ago, I prefer Logitech

[@Jajaja..]

Have now been driving the G920 for over 3000 hours of ACC play with no signs of wear. I just installed an Open Wheel Mod. Yes, the gear technology is relatively noisy, but there is a simple solution to make it almost completely silent. If you have some manual skills, you can do the conversion for 1€ in just under half an hour (Warning!!! Warranty expires) Unscrew the steering wheel, remove both motors and you get to the gear rail. Degrease cleanly and stick a thin layer of felt (similar to chair gliders) to the bottom of the running surface. Then grease everything well (including the felt layer), assemble everything and almost not hear it anymore. Quieter than the rumble effect of a controller. Because it is not the gears that make the noise, but the play of the rack on the sliding surface. Works for me now more than 2000 hours without problems. Even in continuous use of uninterrupted 12 hours. Can of course also be used on the G29... To do this, of course, remove the rubber stopper in the brake and if you want it to be even more realistic, close the air outlet hole in the lower sleeve with a screw and hot glue. Insert a thin round rubber seal into the milling of this sleeve and grease it well. Put everything back together and you will be amazed. Due to this conversion, the air in the sleeve cannot escape and the harder the pedal is pressed, the more it is compressed. It's not rocket science and both conversions present you with a better driving experience.👋

[@sgal5845]

everyone: _fighting over who’s better_ me who uses a g27 knowing i can get twice more buttons if i upgrade to a newer logitech wheel: *laughs in god mode*

[@OCRacing]

He’s too powerful

[@klodno6164]

(me on console so it doesnt matter anyway)

[@alexanderstormdahl2562]

I raise you my Driving Force GT

[@cosmoz6038]

Is the g27 still worth it? I'm planning on picking one up for my first wheel

[@sgal5845]

@@alexanderstormdahl2562 yeah but the dfgt doesn't have the clutch so you'd need to also replace the pedals while i'd need to only replace the wheel base so *HA*

[@biofringe4983]

Well done! This video really helped me make a final decision so much appreciated.

[@JL-cn1qi]

Would recommend the T150 PRO. Do get the pro the pedals and the other version are shit. Yes the Logitec might be nicer to look at but thats not what you'll be doing. You get a better racing feel out of the Thrustmaster hardware. If you end up loving simracing you might end up buying add on's. The shifter for example on the logitec is a toy. The Thrustmaster is heaps better. If you end up upgrading over time you can bring the pedals and shifter along for any othter thrustmaster wheel you buy as it all interacts. As i read here before if you got a bit more money to spend the T300 GT edition is a great bundle. But the really isn't anything wrong with the T150 pro. At certain discounts i've seen through the years its an absolute steal.

[@Alexsbriggs]

The effort put into these videos is unreal, keep it up bro

[@OCRacing]

Will do 👍

[@boreddogx1804]

i got the thrustmaster t150 and it broke the same day i got it and even before it broke it really wasnt that great of a wheel , i got the g29 now and im much happier with the g29 then the t150

[@louishansetiv7016]

Before worrying about 4k res, how bout some 60fps? The chop in this is REAL lol

[@coopermarino2355]

I bought the t150 wih the pro pedals a while ago and I’m loving it. I’ve used the g29 but the t150 with the hybrid belt I’ve loved using. The t3pa pedals are the bets budget ones I have but be careful it does end up squeaking (anyone in comments know how to fix it)

[@Uncle_Glock]

Oil up the springs/pivot points

[@danielkral3046]

You bought it with the pro pedals and now you have t3pa? Why?

[@Uncle_Glock]

@@danielkral3046 iirc the pro pedals dont come with a clutch but the t3pa do

[@danielkral3046]

@@Uncle_Glock Pro pedals (t3pa pro) were for a long time the best pedals which was Thrustmuster selling. So they have clutch pedal and they can be also flipped upside down like in the real car.

[@makkepuu]

I decided to go with the G29 because of the overall quality. I don't find it noisy, when I was experimenting with gain and damping settings the only time it sounded like grinding gears was when the ffb signal was actually clipping. Yes, gears. They have small end play and friction. I get the best experience when I turned everything damping-related to 0 and upped the gain to the point of near-clipping. The pedals were ok-ish, they are sturdy and withstand abuse. Default brake spring could use an upgrade and there third party upgrades available. Bad thing about pedals is the potentionmeters and their lack of resolution. Default potentionmeters hooked to the wheelbase get 8bit resolution. If you purchase an adapter that let's you hook up the pedals directly to the usb port the resolution is amped up to 10bit = 1024 points from 0-100%.

[@mohamedyousif2631]

Can you make a video where you rate all the driving games you played with the wheels and put them in a ranking list?

[@dankclips3394]

Hey man, I'm brand new looking at steering wheels to drive. I just wanted to let you know that I've watched like 6 of your videos lol, you're the best youtuber for this info. Thanks homie.

[@owenross9300]

One point regarding shifters: you can get adaptors that allow the Logitech shifter to be used as a USB device, so it doesn't plug directly into the wheel, but into the pc. Currently using one with my Thrustmaster TX and it's worked without a hitch since I upgraded

[@OCRacing]

Yup, I forgot to mention that. Although last time I checked, the adapter was going for $40? Not sure if that’s still the case.

[@owenross9300]

@@OCRacing Idk if they offer an offical one (at least where I live), but I got one on eBay for £20 (Equates to around $30 or so). My thought process is that with the adaptor you can get a more budget shifter that can be made better with those mods from gmod. Great video, you're making content that's on par with Chris Haye's (Ik you probably get that a lot, but it doesn't make it less true).

[@georgesims4112]

Does this work on Xbox

[@owenross9300]

@@georgesims4112 It doesn't unfortunately. From memory though I remember seeing something called Drivehub that allows you to mix and match gear, could be worth looking into.

[@spenjas5663]

@@georgesims4112 i hate millwall

[@georgealex19]

I’ve owned the t150 and then upgraded to a g29 for the clutch and gear shift. To be honest, with the t150 you can feel discrete positions due to the steps, while the g29 can roll seamlessly. While driving, the t150 seemed to be better tied up, while the g29 has a ffb deadzone around the center position. The g29 is a lot noisier, while the t150 has belts and is a lot more silent, especially when ffb hits. No, really, the g29 sounds like it’s hammering something down. The leather indeed feels more interesting, but the t150’s rubber is high quality as well. The g29 has a few more buttons and the rev leds. Now I own the g29 since a few years, I like it but from time to time I miss the t150. Still.

[@gvnrchmnd]

Get the tmx pro and a pair of driving gloves. Then you won’t care about the lack of leather on the wheel. The belt driven FFB alone trumps the Logitech.

[@regibson23]

Gavin gets it. The only reason to buy a ffb wheel is for the ffb!

[@Kirito2058.]

a lucid man.

[@andrepower6]

It's not even fully belt driven and the force feedback is stronger on the g29. I have the t150 btw.

[@Kirito2058.]

it's all about the precise response of the FFB, for me, the Strength doesn't really matter primally for circuit races (F1, GT3 etc)

[@andrepower6]

@@Kirito2058. that still goes for the g29 since the gear driven system gives you faster and more precise ffb.

[@admirkaralic7209]

In 2015 I bought the G29 for $300, 5 years later they upped the price to $400 for no reason, I then had the T300RS and never looked back. The Thrusmaster is more subtle when it comes down to software and packs more tech. The T150 in this video is in my opinion better than the Logitech due to the Hybrid Gear and Belt drive system. Shame on Logitech for selling us a G27 in disguise.

[@dryayman1884]

The problem with the logitech wheels is that they have a lot of slop for the first 5ish degrees in each direction. What i mean by this is that while it is accurate, you will have little to no force feedback. That may be a problem with thrustmaster too i guess but ive only had my g29 and im not so pleased with it.

[@thannydevitos2332]

I’m looking for my first wheel, ultimately for me it’s about price range. Also deciding if I want a more expensive one from the get go, because I may feel inclined to replace a cheaper one at some point

[@ChrisFaa]

If price is the main factor, try and find a second hand G27 in good condition. I did this and it has been very good. Spring upgrades (pedals) are available too at a reasonable price. There is one potential weakness - there is a small optical sensor wheel which can fail after a lot of use, but there's a guy on the net making a nice brass replacement for this, so it's repairable. If you want something really good from the start - probably get the new Fanatec CSL-DD. People seem to like it (I have not tried it) and it's fairly cheap for a DD wheel base. Still going to cost a bunch for the whole setup though.

[@EvilGeniusGaming84]

I actually picked up a thrustmaster tmx pro with the 3 pedal set at my local Goodwill for an amazing $20 , so I'd have to go with Thrustmaster 🤙🏽😉

[@peckpecklala]

I think I'm gonna get the logitech one as my first wheel ever

[@maxranieli680]

I bought my T150 six years ago and it works but the cable for the pedals stopped working recently, overall very worth it and back then it costed 160$

[@slideprojectCambodia]

Was a bit late to the premiere but nonetheless a great comparison video.

[@OCRacing]

Thank you! I may consider premiering more videos in the future, I think it was a lot of fun

[@scottpolston6137]

Yes the g29 survived several years of my daily use on PS5 gt7 and on PC playing AC and FH5 PC 1 &2 it's seen allot of use I highly recommend this wheel as a starting point but if your budget allows you to get a entry level direct drive wheel do it you won't regret it

[@Sparrow43]

thanks for the comparison i was on the fence about them

[@OCRacing]

👍

[@210gremlin]

Thrustmaster should send you a T248. Would love to see how that stacks up against the Logitech series, especially since it price matches the g923

[@OCRacing]

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[@frontierroleplayofficialch4155]

Great job on 8k subscribers!

[@OCRacing]

Thank you! We're getting up there... :)

[@frontierroleplayofficialch4155]

You deserve more

[@sodapopinksi667]

Got a t150 on deep sale from GameStop. Wheel is fine. Pedals aren't great, but it's adequate for Truck Sim and arcade games. Sim racing, it's so-so. Maybe play with low ABS. They offer some resistance, at least. Best to get different pedals later.

[@alexandrutirtiu8084]

You are the best KZbinr ever! You answered all my questions on these steering wheels and I have bought the G29! THANK YOU!

[@AbhishekPropottan]

As a T150 user.. Still using on 2024 with no problem.. This wheel purchased on 2021 and still it's look's and works new.. It's force feedback so realistic and powerful morethan enough for me as a assetto and ets 2 player.. I will defiantly recommend T150 over Logitech and you are not going to regret this.. But i will recommend to buy the pro version if you can.. But okay if you are on budget but still I'm using those Normal Pedal's.. Break and Accelerater.. But i had a plan to buy it soon.. Whatever If you want a overall package for now on budget it's a good idea to take Logitech.. But still it's not that a good idea.. because You will get money after this whatever, i mean future.. Then you will bored with Logitech FBB.. And try to upgrade to a Higher Wheel and sell your older one with no advantage.. But if you buy a Thrustmaster T150.. That wheel will be Enough.. As my Experience.. And you will get 15+ different add-on's for T150.. So There is a Big Advantage's.. So think first..

[@indestructiblepower2432]

Thank you good man ive been looking for a sim racing setup for around $1000 which includes the rig and everything i couldnt decide what wheel to get and you helped me decide to get the g29

[@OCRacing]

Glad I could help :) thanks for watching

[@draysmith9152]

i have the g29 ive had it almost four years was thinkin a tmx would be an upgrade but with the quality of your video im most likely going to stay with it and switch to a different wheel on the base like an nrg or something thanks man i really appreciate it

[@pawepawelec4419]

I'd say another thing going for the Logitech are additional buttons. Not necessarily as far as racing goes, but in ETS2/ATS it's nice to have the little wheel for cruise control, or the +/- buttons for the retarder. And the FFB is not as important in those either.

[@hezvandermeij]

I'm currently in no state to get myself a new set and I'm working with an old trustmaster Xbox360/PC wheel (2 pedals no force feedback, or any feedback for that matter) what kinda works good enough for now, I'm here for the amazing content though and for whenever I'm able to get me a nice new Logitech or again trustmaster one. Awesome vid dude.

[@gh0styzz-_-459]

I have both, best part about the g29 is that the pedals are a million times better and a have clutch. The wheel itself are good on both, FFB is good on both but if remeber correctly, the t150 is a little more nothcy than the g29. Both solid asf

[@MOMAZOSPATO]

The fuck? Did you smoke weed or something? T150 is much more silent and has better force feedback.

[@joshriver75]

Nice work! The little humor inserts were right up my alley. Liked and subbed

[@GrotrianSeiler]

Very good video. Helpful. Quality versus feedback. Each choice for me.

[@bernardoberner4]

I don't see why you would prefer the G29, the Tmx/T150 has a poorer build quality, but you said it yourself, they provide better ffb, and for only 50 bucks more you get the t3pa pedals. Which in the end is cheaper than the G29, so you got better pedals and better ffb, and also better looks imo, for less money, it's a no brainer. And if you went to a racing circuit what would you rather have, a Rolls Royce, with all the luxury in the world, or a GT3?

[@JoyKazuhira]

Here with my dfgt, been using it since rfactor, f1 2012 and i quit on being a pirate and went to steam. Ets2, f1 2018-21 with a total of 16k hrs on steam. Still working fine. If these wheels prices went down, ill probably have to get one.

[@Kevin15673]

if I could go back I'd probably get a thrustmaster wheel with a logitech shifter (you can adapt the logitech shifter to USB for $20)

[@BWB_Cubing]

7:29 im still wondering why the tmx doesnt have that

[@nova8747]

I've since upgraded to a TS-PC base from TM, but when I owned a G29 I had a blast with it, however, one major gripe I had with it, was the paddle shifters, the way they're designed meant I'd slam my finger tips off them anytime I'd try to drift.

[@grillmeisterflash]

Must do Mod on the Logitech Pedals: remove the rubber block inside the break spring, replace it with a cut flipflop (3.5cm) piece - exchange the clutch spring with the throttle spring - reverse mount it = best low budget pedals u can have

[@soheell]

just picked up a t150 for $40 almost new condition, loving it so far.

[@rayhib]

My first wheel (and the one I use) is a Logitech G923, which I won in a giveaway. I love it. It's been a great introduction to sim racing, and I hope to upgrade to a better one on a few years.

[@OCRacing]

Imagine you win another giveaway for a better wheel

[@rayhib]

@@OCRacing My luck was insane, 1 of a hundred thousand other people. If I win another I'd be over the moon.

[@kavancooney214]

Thanks for the informative video! Really helped me understand some more about choosing an entry level wheel for a drifting sim 🤘 brotha

[@robn2066]

And i think both companies should make a budget and a pro version of their shifters. Like thrustmaster making a 50-60 dollars budget shifter and logitech making a 150 dollars pro shifter

[@MattO109]

I decided to trade quality build for the slightly better feedback, it should be here tomorrow, excited for my start in sim racing and happy to retire the analog sticks

[@henry1667]

These 2 options are not in the budget area !

[@Drew.DrivesYT]

cheers for the video, you've convinced me to re-buy a G29 (purchased one in 2019 but returned it a few days later).

[@OCRacing]

Glad it helped 🙂