Still the Best Beginner Sim Racing Wheel? | Logitech G29 Review

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Chris Haye

Chris Haye

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@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 4 жыл бұрын
Skippers cheat sheet: Intro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm30s Why Is The G29 So Popular? kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm22s My Experience With Sim Racing Wheels: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm36s Construction - Wheelbase: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm00s Construction - Pedals: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm36s Function - Wheelbase: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm50s What Is Force Feedback? kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm38s G29 Force Feedback: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm47s Function - Pedals: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm51s Final Thoughts: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d37YeqKVeJZnarcm37s
@TragicAyk
@TragicAyk 4 жыл бұрын
Final thoughts 13:37 🤔
@springwoodslasher79
@springwoodslasher79 4 жыл бұрын
Still just a g27. The fact that Sony and logitech got together to fuck gamers by making us buy the same wheel twice is completely bullshit and I didn't fall for it. Most ps4 driving games are shit so I'm not missing much.
@shurikencookies
@shurikencookies 4 жыл бұрын
Nice professional video, I do notice a bit of electrical interference with you microphone, slight buzzing noise in the back ground, don't know if you knew about it or have resolved it but I thought I'd let you know.
@kdogg7882
@kdogg7882 4 жыл бұрын
@@springwoodslasher79 : You can blame Sony for that. For making their architecture incompatible between systems. It forced Logitech to make a new wheel. The new XB1 will support all existing peripherals so need stress there going forward.
@springwoodslasher79
@springwoodslasher79 4 жыл бұрын
@@kdogg7882 if you dont think logitech and Sony were in on this deal you are just a sheep. Baaaaaa. The wheel has ps4 controls on it you moron so obviously they made a deal with logitech.
@Goosiest
@Goosiest 4 жыл бұрын
G29 has been fantastic for me so far. 3D printed the adapter as well to replace the wheel itself with an actual rally wheel, wish me luck!
@TechZesPlays
@TechZesPlays Жыл бұрын
Little did we know 3 years ago Goosiest would become an extremely popular sim drifting KZbinr with a million subscribers. Keep up the great work Goose!
@albatross5739
@albatross5739 Жыл бұрын
yea wtf thats badass! congrats! im about to buy mt first racing wheel and also goin with the g29 lol
@plob5823
@plob5823 Жыл бұрын
HI
@kristjss
@kristjss Жыл бұрын
@@albatross5739 What you're seeing is history lol, this guy now has 1mil subs and like a 1,5k setup
@AmauryChihuahua
@AmauryChihuahua Жыл бұрын
Y O U
@casperschaugg1605
@casperschaugg1605 4 жыл бұрын
one does have to realize that he has a "proper" sim rig, so for a beginner/ someone who just got into it, it'll be heaven. (especially coming from a keyboard)
@citruss5737
@citruss5737 3 жыл бұрын
That must be the most true thing ive heard
@Cloudrak
@Cloudrak 3 жыл бұрын
It really is.
@Skellotronix
@Skellotronix 3 жыл бұрын
Get a Dualshock 4, Sixaxis is fantastic. 👍
@adaddylicious1748
@adaddylicious1748 3 жыл бұрын
@@Skellotronix it's ass, if I turn more than 70° it fucks up and I crash
@nihaalspeaks
@nihaalspeaks 3 жыл бұрын
HAHA LOL keyboard racer
@SrirajaPanich
@SrirajaPanich 4 жыл бұрын
Dang, the G29 is going for $400 USD base right now. I missed my window to get it cheaper before Coronavirus.
@Lorenzo-qt3jq
@Lorenzo-qt3jq 4 жыл бұрын
same feels :(
@lakaumbucha
@lakaumbucha 4 жыл бұрын
I looked today. 4-22. It’s $500.
@r32juan
@r32juan 4 жыл бұрын
Sricharan Yadali buy the hori racing wheel it costs $99 on adorama then get a set of pedals with clutch and a shifter (i recommend the logitech driving force) and ure set up
@kevinmoncada9036
@kevinmoncada9036 4 жыл бұрын
At that point why not get a fanatec csl
@markgeorge2200
@markgeorge2200 4 жыл бұрын
Yo I will get this when the price goes down.
@midioutput
@midioutput 3 жыл бұрын
It's wild that a wheel at that price point is the 'entry level'
@TrigonAZR
@TrigonAZR 3 жыл бұрын
Manufacturing, shipping, storage, middeleman margins etc have to be factored in and probably they don't move that many units compared to game controllers.
@1invag
@1invag 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrigonAZR maybe they'd shift more units if they were more affordable. We don't sell that many so we have to ask a premium price, no I wouldn't buy one the price is too high id buy one if it was a bit cheaper... Confluence of opposition haha. Immovable object meets irresistible force. If your gonna spend 250 quid I might as well spend 450quid instead and get a better one. This would be my attitude personally, and that would basically leave them selling nothing their either so they don't appeal to people who want an entry price offering and they don't appeal to someone who wants something better than entry point offering
@farmboysteve3295
@farmboysteve3295 3 жыл бұрын
Not really….at all actually
@weegle.
@weegle. 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ziddel exactly my problem with his point, if you can only afford 250£ how tf would 200£ more be interchangeable?!
@kghhgkgk6322
@kghhgkgk6322 3 жыл бұрын
This is a budget wheel...
@waynevanmaastricht1266
@waynevanmaastricht1266 4 жыл бұрын
Just got the G29 as my 1st wheel and it's a perfect wheel. I'm ecstatic with it. The more expensive wheels must be amazing
@Sithhy
@Sithhy 4 жыл бұрын
Got the G29 as my first wheel as well & I have to say it's more fun than a controller by miles. I have thought that maybe sometime in the future I would upgrade it to the "next level" (possibly when it breaks to the point I can't fix it after running out of warranty) & have thought about the Fanatec CSL Elite. You may think that there are better wheels than that & yes, you'd be right, but personally, to me it feels like anything past this price point, or maybe bit expensive, is just a dimnishing return, especially if you were to keep on upgrading for what ever reason. There is definitely a big difference from going to the gear drive of the G29 to even something like the belt drive of the CSL Elite, but I don't think it's worth spending twice (or more) that money to get a wheelbase with a direct drive system; just kind of seems like a big waste of money on a small upgrade, especially if you're not fully serious about sim racing (but even then, it's a bit ehhhh to spend *that* kind of money).
@GGamersUnited
@GGamersUnited 3 жыл бұрын
same here bruh. I was afraid I might not be into sim racing that much and I love racing games. Boooi, this wheel makes me wanna main racing games now. lol so good! Enjoy lads! What are you playing these days and on which platform ? Lookin for racing wheel buddies and people to play with in general. Cheers!
@brandonyoung4150
@brandonyoung4150 2 жыл бұрын
I rly want one but I don't even have a regular sized table
@mancantswim66191
@mancantswim66191 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonyoung4150 To mount the wheel you only need a table with about 40cm width and 20cm length. If you have a computer desk that can also work fine. Big tables/dedicated rigs are made to handle much more power than the G29. This doesn't mean you get no feeling in a G29, it's just that some wheels have 10x the power of it. Good alternatives for a G29 include the cheaper Driving Force GT (Pedals are awful but the wheel itself is suprisingly good), the Thrustmaster T150 (I prefer the FFB to the G29 but the pedals on the T150 are worse), and if you can find one cheap enough, the Fanatec CSL Elite (Has the best pedals, and best wheel according to most but very rare). You will have to buy the Driving Force GT and CSL Elite used, as they are no longer available. If you are on PC, mix and match pedals and wheels. For example, if the CSL Elite full set isn't available or too expensive, use a Driving Force GT or T150 with the CSL Elite pedals. This does not work on Playstation though.
@ArcYT
@ArcYT 2 жыл бұрын
Been using a driving force gt for past several months, just bought a G29 kit from Amazon with the g920 shifter included for $250, wish me luck bois
@dank4522
@dank4522 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is eventually going to blow up. High quality editing, content, script, and delivery.
@harris_h24
@harris_h24 4 жыл бұрын
And, voice. It's so soothing.
@chiledog9442
@chiledog9442 4 жыл бұрын
Dan K indeed. For a format he’s “never really tried before” he knocked it out of the park with this one!
@furrane
@furrane 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no, he's too fat to get any respect.
@omdzsful
@omdzsful 4 жыл бұрын
yes l was blown away with the quality of the content when l first came by and was amazed of the lack of subscribers to this channel. consider ourselves lucky that we got to see him before 1 million subscribers
@handikawahyu5538
@handikawahyu5538 4 жыл бұрын
yeah i really glad i find this channel
@flexwings1993
@flexwings1993 4 жыл бұрын
14:07 we not going to talk about the guy using a 360 controller
@HaXD1209
@HaXD1209 4 жыл бұрын
fucking legend
@jpesicka492
@jpesicka492 4 жыл бұрын
I grew up racing sims with controller, mad props to them
@90AlmostFamous
@90AlmostFamous 4 жыл бұрын
I use 360 controller 🤣 I’m 1:52 on Monza with Ferrari 458
@nathanwygal5526
@nathanwygal5526 4 жыл бұрын
I ran a 1:54.8 with the Super Formula on Spa playing GT Sport with a controller. Not too shabby considering that's only a second off the top time.
@SuperHamrick94
@SuperHamrick94 4 жыл бұрын
I'm racing with A/A+-S drivers on GT Sport of my PS4 controller, so I can relate
@BeetjeVreemd
@BeetjeVreemd 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still using my G25, still works perfectly fine after all those years.
@GamingwithSteeeve
@GamingwithSteeeve 4 жыл бұрын
g27 here still going strong
@gvidasbrilius2385
@gvidasbrilius2385 4 жыл бұрын
About >15 year old Logitech wingman formula force gp here still almost going but with a completely broken FFB. Rally games are fun but more race track-y ones are death (or could be that im just really bad at them)
@TheBoostedDoge
@TheBoostedDoge 4 жыл бұрын
those things still work on windows 10? damn
@BeetjeVreemd
@BeetjeVreemd 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBoostedDoge they sure do :)
@TheBoostedDoge
@TheBoostedDoge 4 жыл бұрын
@@BeetjeVreemd I almost bought a used g25 for €60 but I was nervous about it not working on Windows 10 so I ended up buying a g29 on black Friday
@lfox02
@lfox02 4 жыл бұрын
"and if not, the Bezos family store has you covered" Priceless.
@MeMe-df7lr
@MeMe-df7lr 4 жыл бұрын
He said this when I read it
@TheOutsideLine
@TheOutsideLine 4 жыл бұрын
Having used this for 5 months after choosing it as my entry-wheel into sim racing; I agree with pretty much every part of this. You even said things I hadn't realised myself and agreed with. Only thing I think you got wrong: I reckon you could use it as a weapon during a home invasion, but to-date have no proof - theory only.
@GGamersUnited
@GGamersUnited 3 жыл бұрын
I will gladly using anything else first, BUT if it comes to it....with that leather grip I can see it smashing in someone's head easily. Just need the element of the surprise.
@Frankestein01nl
@Frankestein01nl 4 жыл бұрын
"...30 nm, if you want to test how well your arms are attached to the shoulders..." - Chris Haye 2020 XD
@ezroller2k11
@ezroller2k11 4 жыл бұрын
He's low-key the funniest sim racing KZbinr, hands down
@aabe4327
@aabe4327 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy: Hold my beer. repeatedly over his youtuber career. :)
@NickG40
@NickG40 4 жыл бұрын
I got a DD1 recently, that thing is more than enough to pull your arms out.
@Tintop
@Tintop 4 жыл бұрын
actually.. 1980's F1 cars had a max steering force up to 28Nm... :D
@iare19
@iare19 4 жыл бұрын
30nm hahahahaha. Even my cordless power drill has 180nm. T300RS on max settings always. You probably have spaghetti arms.
@rafaelaizpun7842
@rafaelaizpun7842 4 жыл бұрын
just bought one for 170€ this christmas. Im loving it. It was kind of hard to adjust to the brake pedal as it takes a while to know how hard you need to push to trailbrake effectively but its was a matter of 2-3 days for me, who has never sim-raced before.
@SIMRIG412
@SIMRIG412 4 жыл бұрын
Open up and take out the rubber piece in the brake pedal. Tons of videos it takes 10min to do it
@willrussell2134
@willrussell2134 4 жыл бұрын
@@SIMRIG412 voids warranty
@ultradmx
@ultradmx 4 жыл бұрын
Put it back in and the warranty is back.
@diszylam
@diszylam 4 жыл бұрын
Y E i just took out the rubber stopper. Works perfectly fine now
@DarkDemise6066
@DarkDemise6066 4 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough I really love the rubber stop, for games like f1 where the brakes are super sensitive to locking it helps you stay right on the limit of locking and trail brake easier imo.
@hunterbrittle5398
@hunterbrittle5398 4 жыл бұрын
This is great. Perfect timing for me, I’m just getting into proper sim racing and can’t wait to have my own setup. Thanks for helping out us newbies!
@skilewis74
@skilewis74 4 жыл бұрын
Hunter Brittle Good if you’re strapped for cash. But I’d save & spend a bit more on a Thrustmaster T300/TMX and then T3PA pedals after you can run consistent laps +/- 1 sec per lap (w/abs if needed)
@eduardofreitas8336
@eduardofreitas8336 4 жыл бұрын
One of us! One of us!
@nandayo-w2s
@nandayo-w2s 4 жыл бұрын
@@skilewis74 Nah, I've had both and the despite slightly better FFB, G29 is a better product. The T300 are famous for the belts dying whilst the G29 keeps going. Thrustmaster is worth skipping and going to a DD if you are willing to spend more money.
@rarewhiteape
@rarewhiteape 4 жыл бұрын
There are heaps of G29s available on the second hand market, especially this time of year when everyone upgrades for Christmas. Look up your local sim racing buy/sell/swap groups on Facebook.
@tyranus1111
@tyranus1111 4 жыл бұрын
Just be super light on that brake its actually pissing me off how there is no difference between betrween heavu brake and full wheel lock
@roddy6924
@roddy6924 3 жыл бұрын
I took your advice about a year ago, and picked up the g29. I've never had a single issue with it; Its been a good reliable purchase. I still love it, a year later. Thanks for your advice, much appreciated.
@Dysonchips
@Dysonchips 2 жыл бұрын
another year later.. How is it holding up? do you still use it? does it still work properly?
@roddy6924
@roddy6924 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dysonchips Yes, I still love it and use it almost everyday. I'm fast with it, at least n AMS2. Never have had a single issue. I upgraded to a MVH studios GT rim. I love it as well. More than a year later, no issues with it either.
@Dysonchips
@Dysonchips 2 жыл бұрын
@@roddy6924 Wow cool, thanks for the reply
@simonhaycocks
@simonhaycocks 4 жыл бұрын
I've had one of these for about 3 years as well as the H pattern shifter. All still work perfectly.
@Sinn3246
@Sinn3246 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, though I've has issues with the drivers for some games. And for me, once you try a belt driven wheel, the "grindiness" of the G920/29 will grind your gears... pun intended. It's like that though. I'm told, "once you hit Direct Drive, you'll never want another Belt or Gear driven wheel", lol.
@duckheadgaming
@duckheadgaming 4 жыл бұрын
I had my G27 for seven years now and I was very happy with it! The desk clamps are better then I expected, because in the past 4 years I never felt the wheel getting loose from my rig. Only when I took it off to get my new wheel on I realised that I never used the screws and only the clamps.
@zakariaeloitike2290
@zakariaeloitike2290 4 жыл бұрын
yeah imma buy a steering wheel just to test how well my arms are attached to my shoulders i really wanna know
@fukkit528
@fukkit528 3 жыл бұрын
if youve ever fucked around in an empty parking lot, you’ll know how fucking heavy the steering wheel can get.
@Daimo83
@Daimo83 4 жыл бұрын
"Unknown" controllers are actually keyboard people
@SergeantExtreme
@SergeantExtreme 4 жыл бұрын
Legends in their own right.
@ShaunDelier
@ShaunDelier 4 жыл бұрын
Hello! Keyboard user here :P
@BananenBoerBob
@BananenBoerBob 4 жыл бұрын
Notebook trackpad steering
@Pypamid
@Pypamid 4 жыл бұрын
Toshiba laptop clit mouse
@MajesticSkywhale
@MajesticSkywhale 4 жыл бұрын
i play modern games in text mode where i de-code the machine--lanaguage in real time and provide inputs via binary
@officertenpenny4505
@officertenpenny4505 4 жыл бұрын
Used g29 for a month. What many people don’t mention is the diy potential of this wheel. It has many 3D printed mods and spring sets. I’ve changed the wheel, paddles, made inverted pedals and changed throttle and brake springs, added 3D printed part to the shifter to make shifts a little heavier. Those changes, I think, pretty much explored all most of the diy potential of this wheel and improved the experience significantly.
@maxbracic7744
@maxbracic7744 Жыл бұрын
thank you tenpenny, useful advise 👍
@aufseherr
@aufseherr 4 жыл бұрын
I just started looking into racing sims tonight, and KZbin recommended me this video when I got home. Perfect timing!
@chiledog9442
@chiledog9442 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best review of the G29/G2x series I’ve ever seen. Keep doing what you are doing Chris.
@gdsergio_4898
@gdsergio_4898 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly speaking, great review. I'm 17 and I'll get a gaming pc next month, because I like cars and drifting, I was planning on getting this steering wheel w/ the shifter to play Asseto Corsa and this review was really useful. Funny thing is by the time I've saved enough money to buy this (probably around December), I'll turn 18 and be able to get a drivers license so I'll practice at home with this bad boy. Also, you have a really calming voice tho
@corleone7398
@corleone7398 4 жыл бұрын
Literally same to everything except i already have a decent gaming pc lol and i already can drive manual stick
@the_one_titan
@the_one_titan 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I was gonna ask for a Series X for Christmas but I might get one of these instead 👀
@JoNJamEz1
@JoNJamEz1 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I’m looking for a wheel with a manual trans.
@the_one_titan
@the_one_titan 4 жыл бұрын
LE20 I dont know of any wheels that have a shifter included (they have paddle shifters of course) But you have to buy the shifter yourself separately
@SachinDGamer
@SachinDGamer 4 жыл бұрын
man.. looks like we will be waiting a few more months to get the wheels. They are too costly right now..
@Tharg
@Tharg 4 жыл бұрын
Great review Chris, I'm convinced I need one. Sounds ideal for my skill level..shame they have increased in price atm.
@4rsh193
@4rsh193 4 жыл бұрын
There is cheap ones here but my dad wont buy it I mean i have 1/2 the money but nooooo thats useless I need to invest in gold instead?
@Mladjasmilic
@Mladjasmilic 4 жыл бұрын
Or, just buy a Yugo. It has all the features this wheel has (heavy steering and slack), metal pedals and real (but vague) shifter. G-forces are about the same as the best simulator, more realistic when driving over typical Serbian road. And best of all, it would cost about 300€, last longer and take 4 friends for fun and 2 packs of beer.
@dragocvetko1333
@dragocvetko1333 4 жыл бұрын
Ja isto razmišljam uzet yuga ili ovo sranje
@Mo__Joe
@Mo__Joe 4 жыл бұрын
I live in germany and never heard about this car. u would molest everybody with just driving this shit here. can't imagine this shit
@lukacicek5450
@lukacicek5450 4 жыл бұрын
Ili ladu kupiš glorious Russian engineering
@jonp3890
@jonp3890 4 жыл бұрын
Also known to make great wheelbarrows.
@the_one_titan
@the_one_titan 4 жыл бұрын
Also would break down ever 20 meters
@Yikerr
@Yikerr 4 жыл бұрын
So the brake is kinda like a busses My friend says that when he drive a bus the first half is pretty low force but when you go over 50% it goes full emergency stop Kinda?
@TomGS
@TomGS 4 жыл бұрын
yup.
@TomGS
@TomGS 4 жыл бұрын
I actually own and use a g29, the brake is soft-ish 3/4 of the way, until it hits the rubber stopper. I have it set up so when i hit the stopper its on 90% brake pressure. (Ingame, mostly) it works pretty well.
@rarewhiteape
@rarewhiteape 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked the rubber stopper in the brake. It felt good in Assetto to have to push hard to brake. Although in GT Sport you’re pretty much at 100% braking force before you even reach the firm part of the travel, which is annoying and hard to get used to at first. In F1 2019 I had the inner dead zone set so that the braking *begins* at the stopper, giving me a nice form brake pedal at all times! I know I was losing information by cutting out half the brake travel, but it really helped with consistency because I was applying more accurate pressure, closer to a real brake. I’ve upgraded to a Fanatec CSL with load cell now, but I’ll always look back on my time with the G29 with extreme fondness.
@humblegeorge
@humblegeorge 4 жыл бұрын
Very ajustable in content manager !!!!!
@TomGS
@TomGS 4 жыл бұрын
@@rarewhiteape im gonna try that in the f1 2019. good tip!
@phelens4781
@phelens4781 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most objective and well thought out reviews I've seen on this wheel. I've owned one for a while while playing Raceroom mostly until the DCS World addiction set in!
@dannsgamingfails8899
@dannsgamingfails8899 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I’m not the only person this happened to. I’ve probably crashed an entire squadron of aircraft in the last 12 months
@cathyerinandaidan8206
@cathyerinandaidan8206 2 жыл бұрын
DCS Is just sooooo good
@afc5150
@afc5150 4 жыл бұрын
Informative and accurate review. I've owned my G29 for 2-1/2 years now, with hundreds of thousands of miles logged on it.
@Baslerdoor
@Baslerdoor 4 жыл бұрын
You, sir, are one of the most relaxed person in this business! Thanks for that great video!
@christopherrobin7984
@christopherrobin7984 4 жыл бұрын
Now this is a clear, concise, in depth and overall excellent product review. I love the mentions of moddability and repairability, and possible failure point. If only all product reviews were like this. I already have this wheel and I still watched it all. Subscribed.
@localizercaptured
@localizercaptured 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using my G29 wheel now for about 3 to 4 years. I haven’t came into any issues with the steering wheel and it is an overall excellent product. It has an excellent range of custom profiles which you can configure in the Logitech Gaming Software or just use the default ones. Overall it is worth the cost and should last a very long time. The only issue I had I brought mine from Currys and I had about 4 different wheels 3 G920’s and 1 G-29 before I finally got a working 5th one and has lasted me. Thanks for the video
@scotty6346
@scotty6346 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Chris, I'm a casual simmer ie: Saturdays and Sundays only! I still use a G25 which i bought 5 years ago for £25 on Ebay! I've graphite greased the gears in it and it still works perfectly! If you play AC then use Rasmus' info and LUT files available on Racedepartment, ACC feels really good on this wheel, They catered for it out of the box, RF2, Wreckfest etc all work well with this wheel and pedals, If my G25 claps out i will have to most probably replace it with a G29, I just cannot justify paying for a DD wheel on my income and simming as little as i do, Cheers.
@moegee7430
@moegee7430 4 жыл бұрын
Just listened to this guy talk for 15 minutes...last time I done that was when I listened to an audiobook lol. nice voice
@eclypse1259
@eclypse1259 4 жыл бұрын
Two thumbs up for this wheel!!! It’s damn near indestructible, with an unbelievable amount of hours used driving Gran Turismo, I’ve never had a hint of an issue. You will not be disappointed.
@jcharettte
@jcharettte 4 жыл бұрын
Good Job on the channel. Really makes me want to back into Sim racing. I used to race the Papyrus Nascar 1999 up to 2003
@chug4083
@chug4083 4 жыл бұрын
It does have a direct competitor, the TM T150, cheaper price, similar features and specs
@Augustinos
@Augustinos 4 жыл бұрын
The pro version actually
@dertodestoaster1509
@dertodestoaster1509 4 жыл бұрын
I currently own a T150 pro and tried my friend's G29 a few times. In Germany they are very similarly priced at 187€ (TM) and 201€ (Logitech). In terms of force feedback I prefer the T150 and it's partially belt driven system. It is smoother than the G29 and doesn't have a very pronounced "grainy" feel to it. But the Logitech is miles ahead in style and comfort features. The leather feels much more premium than the T150's rubber grips and the selection of buttons and encoders available is also very nice (the rev LEDs are a nice touch but I didn't notice them while driving, so I wouldn't mind if they were missing). The T150 scores another point for the nice clicky feel of the shift paddles, which is in my opinion way better than the "spongy" paddles on the G29. Also a side note, the T150 doesn't offer hard mounting points (although there are some third party solutions for this). Lastly, the pedals: They are very similar in styling and feel. Neither set is particularly good or bad and you'll get used to both. In short: In my opinion the T150 feels better while driving, if you don't mind the rubber grips and overall cheaper feel. But if you can score a good deal on either one, go for it. Both are a great way to enter the realms of proper force feedback steering wheels.
@smeghead666
@smeghead666 4 жыл бұрын
@@dertodestoaster1509 I use a T150 with a strip from a microfibre towel wrapped around the wheel and stitched in place, easy to do and if you put a touch of glue on the slippery plastic bits of the wheel (which I didn't) then that along with the rubber will hold everything very firmly in place, feels miles better
@WiscoMTB37
@WiscoMTB37 4 жыл бұрын
@@dertodestoaster1509 maybe the wheel is comparable but the pedals arent even close unles you get the upgraded thrustmaster pedals
@welshy4638
@welshy4638 4 жыл бұрын
@@smeghead666 I wrapped my alcantara covered TSPC open wheel with the replacement tape you get for recovering tennis bat handles. Feels great and it gives the wheel a bit more girth.
@plasticmanc3774
@plasticmanc3774 4 жыл бұрын
Great objective review. Had mine for a few years and I've been really happy. Recently upgraded the pedals to Fanatec V3's and it has made the wheel feel grainy in comparison, but the pedals in fairness are twice as expensive as both the wheel and pedals from Logitech.
@juanmj93
@juanmj93 4 жыл бұрын
Me: Unsuccessfully trying to play Assetto Corsa with a Logitech Wingman GP from like 20 years ago.
@iMrParker
@iMrParker 4 жыл бұрын
Man I had one of those when i was a kid haha
@rootsmanuva82
@rootsmanuva82 4 жыл бұрын
Me: unsuccessfully trying to play Assetto Corsa for the first time using an Xbox controller. I’ve been playing Forza Motorsport for years on a controller and could drive for weeks without crashing using no assists. I couldn’t drive any car for 20 feet in AC without crashing. Adjusted the steering settings in AC and was able to do hot laps with no problems. Went back to play Forza7 and was crashing cars like a rookie because my brain adjusted to the hyper sensitivity of Assetto Corsa 😅
@racingspirit9102
@racingspirit9102 4 жыл бұрын
@@rootsmanuva82 That is unfortunately a reality of racing games and different driving models. I don't play too many racing games at once because of that reason.
@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou
@TheFrogInYourClosetWatchingYou 4 жыл бұрын
@@racingspirit9102 Thats my one issue switching between FH3 and The Crew 2 since they both have entirely different driving mechanics.
@tzershernkhaw
@tzershernkhaw 3 жыл бұрын
instant sub for straight to the point delivery without annoying bgm.
@974OMG
@974OMG 2 жыл бұрын
Lot of people complaining about the price… I find it a great deal, especially considering if you want to get a gear shifter, you can either get the mid tier Logi shifter, or if you want something good the $800 Thrustmaster shifter… one good shifter is more than the wheel, pedals AND if you got the shifter as well
@AvengeanceReloaded
@AvengeanceReloaded 4 жыл бұрын
your channel is amazing. i'd love go see you transition to different topics from just sim racing. of course you can still do it, but i believe a variety of categories will definitely get your channel to be amongst the big boys.
@kratoz_858
@kratoz_858 4 жыл бұрын
5yrs and thousands of hours on my G27. Still works like brand new, just had the brake mod and thats it.
@mbh6473
@mbh6473 4 жыл бұрын
Kris May help? I have the G27 as well but thinking of getting the G29 to use with PS4. Are you running your G27 with a PS4 and how?
@loudoesreviews
@loudoesreviews 4 жыл бұрын
@@mbh6473 Check this peripheral - DriveHub - lets you use your G27 on any platform. Works great with no lag.
@murari7552
@murari7552 4 жыл бұрын
I have been playing GT sport on my Thrustmaster T80 for almost a year and the product I have now is a replacement cus the first one did not shift up or did not accelerate fully or both. I would've bought the G29 but it was too pricey compared to the T80 and I realized why it costed so less later on. The T80's all plastic design was just disappointing with a bit of low quality rubber at the places u normally hold the wheel i.e, 3 o clock and 9 o clock. And, no force feedback and all the fancy shmansy buttons and the list would go on. Point is, buy the right sim wheel, not the cheapest one. Hope u learnt something!
@SS454LS6
@SS454LS6 4 жыл бұрын
I still have a G25 too. I had to replace the shifter. I sometimes get a double shift on the paddles, not sure if it's the wheel. At this point I think an upgrade would be go next step above the G29.
@elcobra98
@elcobra98 4 жыл бұрын
Try keeping the shifter tho. Otherwise you gonna be stick with an H-Shifter gearstick only, aside from the paddles.
@andrewstephenson9083
@andrewstephenson9083 2 жыл бұрын
This definitely sold me on a G29 while they are still available (February 2022) just before the release of Gran Turismo 7, which I suspect will drive up demand significantly in the coming months. Thanks so much!
@alec7568
@alec7568 4 жыл бұрын
I remember a time when logitech setups were pretty much the best you could get, oh how times have changed.
@ignaciorosales6040
@ignaciorosales6040 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the best/lowcost now?
@alec7568
@alec7568 4 жыл бұрын
@@ignaciorosales6040 you seriously can't go wrong with the Logitech setups but in my opinion I would recommend a thrust master t300, one of their cheaper belt driven ones.
@smack7401
@smack7401 4 жыл бұрын
Overall, this is genuinely one of the best videos on youtube. So helpfully, well put together and a man that actually spits facts, not rubbish.
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude :)
@deviljes666
@deviljes666 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. A rare gem on youtube. Insta sub
@puerkito9893
@puerkito9893 4 жыл бұрын
Same dude, if I had any doubts about my purchase, this mauled them with a maze and did *things* to their corpse
@patbl61
@patbl61 4 жыл бұрын
First time watcher. There's something about your voice that makes it mezmerizing.. .anyway, great video! Subsribed!
@kristypolymath1359
@kristypolymath1359 4 жыл бұрын
He's the new Slob Ross.
@CaptainCrunch99
@CaptainCrunch99 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. been waiting for 5 years for my G920 to break, but it just keeps going. Added the Ricmotech load cell and it turned it into a whole new wheel and pedal set. If your paddle switches start failing, just take the wheel off and soak the switches in alcohol for two hours. No need to take the switch apart. If you do the wheel Check and set this wheel up correctly, it will be good enough for just about anyone.
@MrInternFTL
@MrInternFTL 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tops
@Jindujun
@Jindujun 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for being calm and using a reasonable paced video style without annoying music and getting straight to the point!
@tommason485
@tommason485 4 жыл бұрын
I had this set for a year and it was absolutely amazing still go back to it from time to time
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I was expecting a shock when I swapped out the OSW for it after a year away from non-direct-drive. But it was really refreshing how quick it was to adapt :)
@ezroller2k11
@ezroller2k11 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, your cat looks amazing... Great video as per, some great subtle laughs in there
@nathanschroeder4846
@nathanschroeder4846 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my g29 for 2 years now and I love it it’s fantastic
@4040chocolate
@4040chocolate 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking at getting it good to know it is worth it.
@nathanschroeder4846
@nathanschroeder4846 4 жыл бұрын
4040chocolate it’s fantastic but I will say it’s a bit loud, still so much fun
@Noah-Lach
@Noah-Lach 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I have such fond memories of my G25. It finally bit the bullet after almost 15 years of loyal service from the time I was a boy to a real adult with a life and responsibilities. It's amazing that the same fundamental design (with slightly better gearing) still being sold and appreciated to this day.
@liamclancy9955
@liamclancy9955 4 жыл бұрын
Just in case anybody needs this, if your wheel won't attach to the table because the table is too thick, you can remove the top of the clamps so it will fit. Just from my personal experience, because I spent months before realising that I could use a normal table that had previously been to thick.
@liamclancy9955
@liamclancy9955 4 жыл бұрын
"thicc"
@bean3243
@bean3243 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought it the other day, can't wait for it to come in
@gordonjeffrey231076
@gordonjeffrey231076 4 жыл бұрын
I love my G29. Forza on PC, GT on PS4. It's a great entry level wheel.
@lukeduale1403
@lukeduale1403 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, amazed by how little subscribers you have compared to what you should have. This review was absolutely perfect, your speech patterns and humour is top notch, and just overall so well thought out. New subscriber and hopefully many more in the future
@Curratum
@Curratum 4 жыл бұрын
Subscribed merely because of the quality of this video. So much useful information and such a great, cool, laid-back host!
@pearsekeown8159
@pearsekeown8159 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a g920 and have been watching these videos non stop while waiting for delivery
@HarinderSingh1994
@HarinderSingh1994 4 жыл бұрын
Me: searches for Logitech G29/920, goes on to Logitech G29/920 page. Price Rs 36955 only. It might be cheap for first world country folks certainly not for the rest. Pretty good review.
@sunny666k
@sunny666k 4 жыл бұрын
Harinder Singh it’s around 19-23k in India on a regular day. If you wanna know.
@xxslayer255xx
@xxslayer255xx 4 жыл бұрын
It's $500-600 USD in America from sketch 3rd party sellers
@prashanthpn1704
@prashanthpn1704 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! I was able to get a quote for it last week. It is Rs.17.5k without the shifter in Bangalore.
@lasagneman5586
@lasagneman5586 4 жыл бұрын
Don't buy it from the official site. I got mine for 200€ new.
@xxslayer255xx
@xxslayer255xx 4 жыл бұрын
@@lasagneman5586 where are you buying it from?
@steerj07
@steerj07 4 жыл бұрын
Spirited away tattoos? If so, legend.
@ctWOOOO
@ctWOOOO 4 жыл бұрын
this thing looks so much like a Logitech Driving Force Pro it is shocking, the desk clamps look exactly the same as the model from 2003
@superferrariman
@superferrariman 3 жыл бұрын
Just upgraded from a g25 to a csl dd last week and have to be honest and say that i thought the jump would be higher. Still a big jump, don't get me wrong, but i am surprised to the level of detail that my 12 year knackered little girl could go!!! Best beginner gear ever!!!!
@ajunta2270
@ajunta2270 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at buying a sim racing set up for the first time... Happened upon this review. Wow, I have to say this is an incredibly good review. Did not expect it. Well done sir.
@robertmitchell87
@robertmitchell87 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the time when the G25 was considered to be the top of the line force feedback wheel (back about 2007 or so)
@eduardofreitas8336
@eduardofreitas8336 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Brazil g27 is still comsidered king hahah
@robertmitchell87
@robertmitchell87 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gandalf721 I don't recall seeing other force feedback wheels from that time that were top shelf, so I am sorry
@zodspeed
@zodspeed 4 жыл бұрын
can't even buy a wheel and pedal set these days... nobody has them in stock
@eggnogwhale3672
@eggnogwhale3672 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought this exact wheel from Dell in Canada, and the wheel won't show up for another month because of the Corona Virus
@18pluskiddo
@18pluskiddo 4 жыл бұрын
Dell in Canada still offers the Logitechs for a reasonable price (just bought the G920 for $400 CAD, aka $270-300 USD), but it takes a month to deliver.
@thomassmith4999
@thomassmith4999 4 жыл бұрын
The prices have gone demented in Australia the last few months. They were 150 dollars less a couple years ago
@mannyplayz2402
@mannyplayz2402 4 жыл бұрын
i feel your pain I'm stuck here with Keyboard and Mouse
@animalm4st3r
@animalm4st3r 4 жыл бұрын
if u want to use it on the PC then get the G29 (PS4 variant) as it has more buttons u can customize then the G920(Xbox variant)
@carloscastro5081
@carloscastro5081 4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing wheel, is is reliable, I’ve had it for 1 year and a half, and no problems yet, one thing you shoud know, it is loud
@Drummerboykhari12
@Drummerboykhari12 4 жыл бұрын
Mine is supposed to arrive in the mail either today or tomorrow, the G29, this video got me really stoked. I never actually have used a decent force feed back wheel, so I'm way excited. Great vid!
@Porsalin
@Porsalin 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis and helped make my mind up as a novice sim racer about what to buy. Did some hot laps in PC2 in VR and am having an absolute blast.
@diwasparajuli4983
@diwasparajuli4983 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even skip a second when I found this channel video The channel is so good
@jgvbadv
@jgvbadv 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna high end production like yours from my funeral.
@matthewpearce8388
@matthewpearce8388 4 жыл бұрын
7:33 yeah Logitech didn’t leave to get milk
@GGamersUnited
@GGamersUnited 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought it yesterday. Did not notice the carpet thingy at all lol thank you, great review!
@zaheedhasib
@zaheedhasib 4 жыл бұрын
I was watching the video on my phone and thought this guy has maybe around 2 mil subscribers at the least. Little did I know that I was predicting a near future. Amazing video and you are going to make it big, sir; just keep up the great work.
@GlycerinZ
@GlycerinZ 4 жыл бұрын
I started with the Logi Driving Force GT in 2011. I moved to the G27 in 2015, and that is when I realized what a real wheel is; I saw that this wheel needed a mount setup. I then bought a G29 in 2019 and got a mount for it. It's friggin awesome
@wotever99ninynine
@wotever99ninynine 4 жыл бұрын
6:05 i built a full wheel stand with diy handbrake, and yet i have never gotten around to making a plywood platform for the bottom. would be easy. and i have a router so i could make slides/ slots for adjustment. but i have never felt the need because the carpet gripper has worked so well for me so far. for years. and thats playing lots and lots of dirt rally, aggressive foot action, lol
@antonesbjornsson
@antonesbjornsson 4 жыл бұрын
How did you do the hanndbrake?
@armaga144
@armaga144 4 жыл бұрын
@@antonesbjornsson I think you could just make a button, then make a stick push it when pulled and then get it back using a spring
@wotever99ninynine
@wotever99ninynine 4 жыл бұрын
@@antonesbjornsson pretty much as the1flame said. But instead of an arduino circuit or something to connect the button to the pc (or wiring through my g29 to one of those buttons) I hooked the button up to the terminals for the space bar of an old keyboard. And used rubber bands instead of a spring, lol. Rubber bands need replacing occasionally, otherwise it's worked fine for years 👍😁
@armaga144
@armaga144 4 жыл бұрын
@@wotever99ninynine whatever comes in handy 😁
@wotever99ninynine
@wotever99ninynine 4 жыл бұрын
@@armaga144 haha yeah 😁
@sanderheijselaar5687
@sanderheijselaar5687 4 жыл бұрын
Nice review. The feeling of the cogs fade in time. I don't feel it anymore with mine. I had the Logitech Driving Force GT for years, even on the PS4 and the G29 is a great weel to begin with.
@Rotary787B
@Rotary787B 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still rocking my G27 wheel which i bought back during the PS3 Gran Turismo days and it still works. Been using it on the new PC I built. I recently got a Sim Rig setup with a full aluminum profile rig and a full assortment of Fanatec DD gear with the 3 pedals shifter and handbrake for my living room for use primarily on consoles. Though the immersion factor is much greater with the new setup the old G27 is still quite fun to use on my PC and can be stored away when i'm not using it. I could still highly recommend the Logitech brand I've used their products for many years and they have held up thru years without issue.
@ThomasNewman1
@ThomasNewman1 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been struggling trying to figure out which wheel to buy, and this one locked me in. Thank you for the great review!
@Nomad.552
@Nomad.552 4 жыл бұрын
So Level 1 - Logitech Level 2 - Thrustmaster Level 3 - Fanatec Level 4 - Direct Arm Broke and Drive Wheel :D
@chrisc7706
@chrisc7706 4 жыл бұрын
I have the thrustmaster T80
@TaylorJAW
@TaylorJAW 4 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from a thrustmaster t80 to g920 with shifter and let me tell ya, WHAT A DIFFERENCE love the g920
@snowcune9342
@snowcune9342 4 жыл бұрын
I still use a G25 wheel that is 10 years old and still works perfectly!
@skodalaskoda8754
@skodalaskoda8754 4 жыл бұрын
I still use a logitech momo wheel
@ZVINTAO
@ZVINTAO 4 жыл бұрын
I still use a wheel mouse as a wheel and it works fine!
@enze5419
@enze5419 4 жыл бұрын
*begginer sim racing wheel* see's teh price: OOOOOFFF
@W--ko9ms
@W--ko9ms 3 жыл бұрын
Bougtt a g920 for 100 euro's. Prices aren't that bad in the 2nd hand market tbh.
@kingmatai8662
@kingmatai8662 3 жыл бұрын
It’s $200 new now
@Albireo8
@Albireo8 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative, humorous and professional. Great clear delivery. Just bought this set up so awaiting results!
@fosstheboss31
@fosstheboss31 3 жыл бұрын
You are the absolute best channel for this info. Props.
@ehyouman
@ehyouman 4 жыл бұрын
I used my G29 for 3 years extensively on my Play-seat, recently to upgrade to the thrustmaster t300 and went through 3 sets of bad pedals within the first 2 months of owning...... My Logitechs? have been issue free since day 1
@slowmotionbetterthannomotion.
@slowmotionbetterthannomotion. 4 жыл бұрын
ehyoumon ur not using it right 🤣
@simonk5571
@simonk5571 3 жыл бұрын
How was the belt drove compared to the gear drive of the g29 though? What if I can find a T300 used for a same price as g29?
@Nedas-ef9ft
@Nedas-ef9ft 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonk5571 get a t300 even if it's used the belt driven system is much better than the gear driven system from the g29 or g920 also I'm guessing you worked it out since it's been 4 months
@b9bot148
@b9bot148 3 жыл бұрын
Love my G29 wheel and pedals, I did do a mod for the paddle shifters that adds a magnet for a much more responsive feel and click to the shifters. Less than $10 us dollars.
@aaronfleming5233
@aaronfleming5233 3 жыл бұрын
Don't suppose you have a link to them fancy doodads?
@ScreamDeafProject
@ScreamDeafProject 3 жыл бұрын
@@aaronfleming5233 you can find them on eBay or Amazon or smthn, I got mine and their pretty good
@118Shadow118
@118Shadow118 4 жыл бұрын
What about the Thrustmaster T150 Pro as a beginner wheel? They're both about the same price, both have 3 pedals, but TM is belt driven
@Toutvids
@Toutvids 4 жыл бұрын
The Thrustmaster setup is superior, I owned it and the G920 by Logitech. Thrustmaster easily better.
@donstott9757
@donstott9757 4 жыл бұрын
@@Toutvids Thrustmaster Brake is teribble. I own the T300 and there is no FFB after 1 Round Nordschleife, that Problem has the G29 not
@Evo247.
@Evo247. 4 жыл бұрын
Don Stott Turn on Forced Cooling mode
@maxpwr_fpv4987
@maxpwr_fpv4987 4 жыл бұрын
TM is apparently famous for dying belts, which Logitech doesn't use. Unless you're lashing out on direct drive, the G29 is a great pace to start.
@Evo247.
@Evo247. 4 жыл бұрын
MaxPwr_FPV Considering I’ve used my T300RS for drifting for over 3 years and haven’t experienced an issue after turning on Forced Cooling mode, I find that hard to believe. I also use it for hours straight, so it all depends on your room’s ventilation and how strong you set your FFB at. Mind you, I usually use decent FFB
@talon1706
@talon1706 4 жыл бұрын
The G29 has served me well for years. My G27 is still in use on my Son's machine. I don't see any need to upgrade to a more expensive wheel. For casual racing and Trucking sims it does the job very well.
@sicmic
@sicmic 4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. So in depth yet easy to understand. I'm looking to get back into driving games after around 10 years off. This video has been hugely helpful to me. Thanks!
@LouisTheSEGANerd
@LouisTheSEGANerd 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using a £40 DFGT for the past 2 and a half years and think it's brilliant. I'll probably upgrade at some point though as I kinda want a clutch pedal and h-shifter
@foulplay99
@foulplay99 4 жыл бұрын
The difference in noise levels and FFB strength is great when you upgrade to the G29 from the DFGT, the G29 is a really noticeable improvement, and the pedals feel much better. The DFGT for me was an an absolute bargain and amazing re-entry though (my first wheel was the old Microsoft FFB wheel which cost me about £200).
@ptownfernando
@ptownfernando 4 жыл бұрын
4:14 HAHA!! Cracked me up outta nowhere.
@TonyTurbo78
@TonyTurbo78 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still sim racing with my G29 and pedal combo Chris. It does the job, just ;) Although it's letting the look of my rig down haha. Nice review though as standard from you.
@artisfun441
@artisfun441 3 жыл бұрын
you're delivery, pace, energy , is great. Thanks for the help m8. I bought one :)
@FragrantOffice
@FragrantOffice 4 жыл бұрын
I’m even into sim racing and came here to decide on this as an addition to Forza Horizon 4. Subbed anyway as this was one of the best reviews I have seen, informative and humorous - keep up the good work!
@jackgarland28
@jackgarland28 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on the next best wheel to upgrade to afterwards?
@after_midnight
@after_midnight 4 жыл бұрын
The G29 is a great beginner wheel for sure and it comes with good pedals. The best entry combination for me is the T300RS with the pedals of the G29. Plus the load cell mod by AP electric :)
@salzstreuer8065
@salzstreuer8065 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried Shuto Revival Project in Assetto Corsa? Probably one of my favourite maps of all time...
@leonkek3674
@leonkek3674 4 жыл бұрын
The RX7 on that server is just borderline insane I love it.
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 4 жыл бұрын
You're the second person that's mentioned that this week. I need to get on it!
@ChrisHaye
@ChrisHaye 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, my neighbour has an RX7, and just sitting in the driveway it's borderline insane. And, by that I mean, I've never seen it move ;)
@salzstreuer8065
@salzstreuer8065 4 жыл бұрын
@@leonkek3674 Yeah that 3 rotor is just absolute Mozart for my ears!
@smudge0356
@smudge0356 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisHaye Offer him/her a reasonable(ish) but VERY cheap price. If they're really NOT using it then, a cash offer is ALWAYS tempting. I reckon £5,000 to £6,000 might be a good place to start A quick search reveals about 15 cars for sale in the UK, from about £13,500 for a low mileage 1997 Mazda RX-7 RZ Special Edition. Through a 1999, 55K, T-Reg for about £19,000. Then a poss great motor 1993, Mazda Rx7 26b 4 rotor, 500HP (one and only road legal, & running, 4 rotor in the country). at £25,000 [www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/mazda/rx-7/mazda-rx7-26b-4-rotor/10306595] Sounds awesome! Then you're into a couple that are over £50,000, but they're based o/seas (Hong Kong/Germany).
@oteupai.2841
@oteupai.2841 4 жыл бұрын
just got mine for 200, brand new. i'm really happy with it. coming from Hori Apex to G29 was a BIG change, it's better than what i expected.
@cbehm19
@cbehm19 3 жыл бұрын
You're very calming and I appreciate your input
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