Loki - 1x6 For All Time Always - FINALE Reaction

Loki and Sylvie finally make it to the end of the timeline and confront He Who Remains in the exciting finale of LOKI! The Normies review and discuss the episode, including what it means now the KANG is officially revealed in the MCU!
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[@Phanthief95]

WandaVision’s ending: Wanda reads a book to bring back her kids. Falcon & the Winter Soldier’s ending: Sam becomes Cap & Bucky gets invited to the cookout. Loki’s ending: Loki & his female version inadvertently create Kang the Conqueror & started a multiversal war. Well, that escalated quickly.

[@timeless9499]

Yes it did lmao

[@BharathKumar-bf6mi]

Is this the start of secret wars?

[@Mehdz03]

@@BharathKumar-bf6mi no, multiverse of madness. Secret wars is awhile away

[@goat1408]

Facts.....lol

[@BharathKumar-bf6mi]

@@Mehdz03 I mean this will pave way for secret wars I think so maybe Lol

[@pauldavis5665]

"If you think I'm evil, just wait until you meet my variants"...

[@nemuke1854]

they eat pineapple pizzas !

[@dwighthollingsworthjr.6730]

@@nemuke1854 they bite the whole Kit kat bar instead of breaking it apart.

[@nemuke1854]

@@dwighthollingsworthjr.6730 and i love pineapple pizzas

[@nemuke1854]

@@dwighthollingsworthjr.6730 they put milk before cereals

[@dwighthollingsworthjr.6730]

@@nemuke1854 they sleep with their socks on

[@TheKannibalistic]

The delivery of that "I'll see you soon" is so damn chilling.

[@dacovax5808]

No joke

[@kerosine2896]

I love how this Kang was a Kang variant! Jonathan Majors literally ATE this whole episode and I was enraptured with every single thing he said like damn

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

Jonathan Majors and Richard E. Grant stole the whole damn show with one episode each. Most charismatic performances in any of the Disney+ shows thus far.

[@JustKrin]

Doing a Kang/He Who Remains as this chill guy who doesn't give a fuck and has a good time instead of a serious or tyrannical ruler is a nice change and he definitely did great with the role

[@JustKrin]

@@albericponcedeleon2696 I thought they only used Richard for one episode because I assume he wasn't that thrilled with being in the MCU for that role. But seeing how much charisma he showed in his performance and all the bts of him enjoying the role, the ridiculous suit and wanting to do more makes me hopeful that they can bring him back in any form

[@goblintwo]

It's a great have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too way to have him in here but also still be the Big Bad of Phase 4. I honestly love the idea of unique Kang variants being the villains for all of these upcoming Marvel movies.

[@bluesorcerer83]

To be more precise, this Kang was Immortus, a really old variant of himself who was tired of being a dictator of time and wanted to stop his younger counterpart(s) to bring peace.

[@DavidVazquezzz]

So, basically He Who Remains is a "good" variant of Kang. He spent eons protecting the Sacred Timeline from Kang The Conqueror( his most evil variant).

[@ligtningdog6399]

The timeline he protecting was sacred only to himself. It was his home timeline and keep other variants of himself from being created.

[@commentor2614]

@@ligtningdog6399 but he still isn't evil He was still a better version

[@SpartanCarter1]

@@commentor2614 exactly he’s the nice one

[@jessicalukram74]

The other versions of him will be evil

[@homedogoli]

Kind of, each one probably has the same goal but goes about it different ways. The new Kang that comes out victorious will decide the new sacred timeline, which will probably end up being a lot darker this time lol. But the end result is the same, one tyrant Kang left standing after conquering the other timelines. Then he dies at the end time and the process repeats itself infinitely.

[@SolidSnake8295]

You gotta feel for Loki. The first person he ever opened his heart to betrayed him and his best friend doesn’t know who he is. 😢

[@s.c.6989]

I feel for him, I do. But it was necessary for what comes next

[@trini_staple]

It's not a betrayal. She stuck to her plan all the way to the end.

[@thespectaculargamernerd8114]

@@trini_staple Kinda was given she thought he wanted the throne and how hurt he was over that.

[@alucard8433]

@@trini_staple Its kinda funny how the whole series she keeps calling Loki an idiot for trying to "kill" the problem then at the end she "kills" the problem.

[@xetren8979]

Guess that's to be expected of a Loki.

[@mcbadrobotvoice8155]

Miss minutes is the most terrifying mcu villain confirmed

[@ot7biasedmashups]

Absolutely

[@maelpsng]

*CONFIRMED*

[@JeraldMason]

I think Ravonna's line "in search of freewill" meant she was going to find the one who created the TVA, as she said he was the only one who gets freewill.

[@GHanBax]

Yup. Being a TVA loyalist, or the ideology of He Who Remains, she probably was the reason behind the new TVA. She went to a time to find a Kang variant and influenced him to create that TVA but be more transparent with his identity.

[@s.c.6989]

@@GHanBax a reactor said she’s Kaang’s wife in the comics

[@JeraldMason]

@@GHanBax I didn't even think about it that deeply. Good theory...

[@arthurdeniham7934]

@@GHanBax That might be true, we'll know in 2 years from now

[@ShirouBrando]

@@s.c.6989 yes she is

[@TheAbominableDrFaustus]

Does anybody else feel like it’s funny and ironic that on the original Avengers Loki called Captain American “The Man out of Time” and Captain America said “I’m not the one who is out of time.” And now Loki is literally outside of time.?

[@nemuke1854]

Loki is outside of time, and inside of friend zone

[@TheAbominableDrFaustus]

@@nemuke1854 How much would it suck if yourself rejected you?

[@nemuke1854]

@@TheAbominableDrFaustus im not speak english

[@Real_DvD]

@@nemuke1854 your mom then lol

[@TheFilmmakersTimeChamber]

Great catch!

[@Ghost8386]

The Miss Minutes jump scare was creepy as hell.

[@musayt]

Son, I straight hit ten in my chair.

[@unforeseeable2.058]

It’s especially scary since there was no music leading up to it

[@Kjf365]

She had the psycho eyes too lmao.

[@UryuCifer]

Timestamp? i dont remember any jumpscare

[@neomoscoso10]

The Multiverse of Madness has truly commenced this time.

[@jctheebarb4133]

Technically not because nothing happens till January 🙄

[@kinjalroy9407]

And fiege said Loki is not connected to doctor strange 2

[@neomoscoso10]

I'm holding out hope that Loki (as in Laufeyson) may appear in any Multiverse-related flick (either Spidey's No Way Home or Doc and the MoM) so we don't have to wait until Season 2 to see him again.

[@fps8786]

let the games begin

[@prestonfernandes2071]

@@kinjalroy9407 So that was a fucking lie because they confirmed after Episode 6 release that Tom Hiddleston will be in Doctor Strange 2 and i have a feeling that the event of season 2 will happen after doctor strange 2 because Loki season 2 will start production in late 2021 and Doctor strange 2 is coming in early 2022

[@augustb7535]

When Sylvie asks “just what are you afraid of” Kang says “me” let that sink in. A man that knows everything about every timeline in the cosmos, and other versions of himself scare him the most.

[@CasualKing21]

Lol how did I forget that we get "What If" after this? This finale is a PERFECT set up for that show

[@Vekcrazah]

Not to mention that most movies coming out post-loki are all multiversal shit. Like, it just makes perfect sense that they'll free the timeline, but hell. The episode kinda makes you wish it won't happen anyway.

[@Vekcrazah]

Not to mention that most movies coming out post-loki are all multiversal shit. Like, it just makes perfect sense that they'll free the timeline, but hell. The episode kinda makes you wish it won't happen anyway.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

YES

[@SQUAD012]

This combined with multiverse of madness, wanda trying to get back her sons and the info that we got about spiderman no way home. It seems legit phase 5 is the beginning of the multiverse.

[@SQUAD012]

@@justafox0 really ?! i thought it was already phase 5. Huh..well anyway the tv shows is a nice setup for the multiverse

[@mr.moviemafia]

Ravonna Renslayer saying “it can’t all be for nothing” shows what her character is all about. She can’t remember who she was, her “glorious purpose” is devoting herself to what is essentially the TVA religion. She is so devoted to her newfound faith because it provides an answer that someone questioning that faith is her enemy.

[@mausieur]

I am guessing she went to look for Kang... hense setting up the romantic relationship between the two.

[@PolskiProdigy]

She's in the seaorg

[@Gunnhfran2]

I lol so much on “I wasn’t expecting that…. A black guy?”

[@YoureRightIThink]

Lol I like the actor but I still wish we get a blue version of Khang, maybe if the final Khang had that blue tone and the purple helmet

[@thomasmees3953]

@@YoureRightIThink that’s only a suit

[@Linator4]

@@YoureRightIThink The blue face is a mask made from technology & I’m almost certain that’s the Kang we’re getting in Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania. We may get one or two more variants throughout Phase 4 for the Young Avengers, Fantastic 4, or the Thunderbolts to defeat. I think Immortus could be his final form for Avengers 5.

[@hnys7976]

They might show variants with other skin colours.

[@randomuser2409]

@@hnys7976 no they already officially casted this guy in the role. He’s black and his suit with be blue with the purple helmet.

[@SyntheticCK]

It's not predetermined Suraj it's just time travel. He's travelled back (and across) to make sure he wins. Each time Sylvie attacked him, there's a timeline that each attack hit him and he died. He then knew which steps to take to stay 1 step ahead of dying. This would be the less tyrannical version of Kang, that kept only his winning timeline open (the winner writes the truth).

[@Jehphg]

Exactly such an easy concept, but you're the first person I've seen that got it. It's like playing the same level in a game after your 5th loss, with each loss you get better because of hindsight and you can have a later savepoint of sorts. Imho this is directly related to the scene of Ravonna taking those documents and getting the hell out of dodge. It's very clear to me that HWR was the one that actually created the multiverse, by giving Ramonna just the right info for her to get into contact with his own 31st century self and give him an advantage in the "Kang race". If she gives him enough info for him to stay one step ahead of the other variants he can both survive and take out the ones that he needs to, plus he can also make the necessary changes in the next cycle so he will come on top again. Like for example not creating the time keepers and hiding himself. He who remains is directly responsible for Kang the Conqueror. He WAS chill af because he had already taken precautions in case the Lokis decided to kill him. Either way he knows he wins. This is also obvious when you stop to notice the timeline was branching way before Sylvie or Loki did anything different. (Probably due to Ramonna doing what she needed to).

[@arnaldovazquez9917]

This is Immortus basically. A version of Kang that only desires peace.

[@drudle]

But by knowing, it becomes predetermined. Immortus there legit had a book of everything they would say and do and they could not veer from that path. It doesn't matter HOW he ended up knowing what they'd do, the simple act of knowing it prior, thus they had no free will to act against it, makes it predetermined.

[@14s0cc3r14]

I don’t think this is true for a couple reasons: 1. His world seems to be out of time completely, literally at the end of it. 2. He can’t have variants, that’s literally the whole point of his plan. 3. If he had died he can’t travel back and avoid it, he’d be dead. To me this implies that it is all predetermined, and as he says he literally knows everything up until the point of crossing the threshold. He is just as much a slave as anyone else.

[@donemu9096]

@@drudle That isn't how determinism works. Knowing doesn't magically change it and make it predetermined. All those TLs with him dying also happened. He just erased them. It's like claiming a species of tree doesn't have branches just because you cut them off before they grow and no one gets to see them. It still has branches. The very fact that Immortus has free will means it isn't predetermined because he himself has free will. For it to be predetermined, even he would need to not have free will.

[@loganbigmo]

Wow you guys filmed the skit _after_ watching this episode & still got it done? Impressive. Even uploaded the reaction before Blind Wave!

[@1771soccerstar]

literally had all the same thoughts. impressive, most impressive.

[@1HiroTheLife1]

Blind Wave are like the Vegeta of the KZbin reaction world

[@Jonathan-ug9yu]

Lazy futks . . jk ofc

[@stevenmark4407]

@@1HiroTheLife1 what?

[@mobiusbelts3607]

@@stevenmark4407 Runners-up

[@dondame6320]

When you realize ms. Minutes was trying to make a deal with them because she and kang knew what was about to happen ….

[@iwillcry]

He said he didn’t know anything from past a certain point? Or are you implying he lied?

[@ot7biasedmashups]

@@iwillcry no they meant it was a test to see if they were worthy of taking the place over but he knew their answer. That's why he made them "change by the journey". In the end their decision to take over or kill him was AFTER his knowledge.

[@jonathanshaw9704]

“Time to show the 21st Century, how I earned the title of CONQUEROR.” -Kang the Conqueror (Avengers Earth’s Mightiest Heroes.)

[@bluesorcerer83]

Perfect reference.

[@ambermess2055]

& to note - this makes the end credit scene of WandaVision make sense, when she's studying that book (can't remember the name right now) and she hears her kids calling to her..... It's because of the timelines branching!!

[@albericponcedeleon2696]

The book is called the Darkhold. Pretty cool surprise to make us think Wanda would set off the multiverse only for it to be a Loki we hadn't even met. Great introduction to Kang.

[@ambermess2055]

@@albericponcedeleon2696 I loved it and I can't wait for what's to come!!

[@s.c.6989]

I knew it was Kaang! The design of the “time keepers” looked familiar, but the multiverse is screwed. Kaang is a different animal, we’re not ready Oh, if anyone is wondering how strong he is: the only person who stopped Kaang before the main timeline was Kaang. And he harnessed the power of an unstoppable monster for his own personal use

[@jamesblaine5517]

Yea but he's not really Kang that's Immortus, the guy in charge after he died is Kang.

[@s.c.6989]

@@jamesblaine5517 they’re basically the same person, just different variations

[@jamesblaine5517]

@@s.c.6989 True but that specific version is not Kang just like Sylvie tells Loki she is not him.

[@freebird6591]

I wonder if loki and sylvie realize that they together can control Alioth... Just like Kang could, getting past alioth was proof they could take over for him. They could eat all branching realities or enemies...

[@s.c.6989]

@@freebird6591 Considering their actions, I thought either of them thought of anything besides what to do with the “one who remains”

[@dungeonmaster16]

Basically the next major mcu event is 100% secret wars. Secret wars is when many realties in marvel universe converge onto one place in the multiverse titled battleworld. There the heroes and villains from different realities fight to secure their reality to stay and exist in the multiverse.

[@ChildOfTheWilderness]

Doom controls Battleworld

[@dungeonmaster16]

@@ChildOfTheWilderness in the 2015(?) secret wars yeah but many secret wars started since the 80s with later on hulks intelligent evil persona of himself meastro later controls battleworld. which after that event one of the major arcs to happen is spiderman having the symbiote which would become venom. which should be a possible hint for mcu when peter gets involved with the universe war and battleworld high chance he may get the symbiote if by then disney/marvel makes a deal with sony to allow venom and symbiotes exist in mcu.

[@nukiesduke6868]

The purpose of a loki is to bring chaos and suffering. They did exactly that. LOL.

[@valentinruiz3828]

9:44 that's Johnatan majors, actor who was confirmed to play Kang the conqueror (in Ant man 3), it seems that here is a variant of Kang, it is probably "immortus" (a calmer version of Kang and that he repents of everything he did)

[@hulkie1016]

And Mobius never got his Jet Ski.

[@jherrenor]

or said 'wow'

[@093_]

Yet

[@Anonymous-rc7kq]

There's still hope

[@spideyharper618]

I hope season 2 opens with a montage of Mobius' variants from different time lines enjoying life saying "Woooow, what a time to be alive"

[@mksongbird]

Natalie Holt's score throughout the entire series is phenomenal. one step closer to having Agents of SHIELD be recognized in the MCU.

[@loganbigmo]

How so? I mean i guess they could say AoS is a branched timeline

[@malcolmflex7997]

Agents of Sheild is mediocre abc television

[@dgh96000]

Oh they won't still recognise, don't you worry. The most (even by slight luck) they would do is just bring a character or two from the AOS and reboot them to fit into the canon. Feige would do things in a very clever way and it's definitely not the way the typical theories and wants of audiences go.

[@AstroRocket]

@@malcolmflex7997 Agents of SHIELD is an massively underrated show that may start a little slow and procedural, but builds to something incredible by the end of the first season. Season 4 is absolutely peak television. I love watching reactors start watching it with preconceptions formed by people like you, and then usually around season 2-3 start saying "holy shit, why didn't anyone tell us this show was this good?!" Happens like clockwork, including on this channel

[@Phanthief95]

@@malcolmflex7997 Not even close because none of the movies or MCU shows have even gotten close to the level of character development Agents of SHIELD has.

[@EternalDensity]

I wouldn't classify that ending as a 'cliffhanger'. That was a 'gamechanger'. A cliffhanger has someone left in certain peril. This was just setup for the next plot, after having resolved the main conflict of the season. Leaving some details open doesn't make it a cliffhanger.

[@WyattoonsComics]

I loved how Loki and Sylvie were like the audience at this point. “Just tell us the name!!! Quit being vague!!”

[@arianaveinte9685]

i really liked this episode. my favorite was probab- “HEY YALL”

[@asiaroberson3442]

I'm still scarred from that

[@ANTIStraussian]

My favorite part was finding out Rana doesn't take deep notes. - loki kiss - loki fight

[@llamalianna]

The worst jumpscare I actually screamed

[@IIgoru1]

@@ANTIStraussian there's this one episode of Naruto where she writes down "Kakashi sweats" and later Suraj reads it and teases her with Chris, I love her hahahaha

[@anoven7008]

Why is that one guy so set on Thanos being the most powerful, he’s dead

[@wisdomomoruyi6362]

That's funny

[@pamoweiberezi5315]

Snapped out if existence,he can be snapped back

[@toyanthaog5109]

Thanos was badass as fuck, but his time is up

[@Mausar17]

Dude's on the spectrum

[@theavatar9191]

Right, we saw him die twice in the same movie. Like he’s literally not the most powerful being

[@shortstuff780]

Love how he never said his name.. But we know. We all know. Kaang is here

[@evansyhevu9021]

Kinda like how we always knew wanda was scarlet which buh they never used that name

[@shortstuff780]

@@evansyhevu9021 exactly it was perfect. This finale was amazing

[@songwright]

The writing in this series is truly metatextual. The characters talk about how they want to find the man behind the curtain. When Loki sees the fate he was supposed meet at the hands of Thanos, he finds out that he was a character in a larger story. Mobius tells him that rather than a hero who becomes a king, he is a villain whose purpose is to allow heroic characters to become their best selves. He admits to playing a role as a villain when Mobius calls him on his cruel behavior. He sees himself as the monster that people warn their children about. In the finale, Sylvie and Loki refuse the devil's deal that Miss Minutes offers them. Loki tells her that they write their own destiny. Renslayer scoffs at Mobius in his appeal to free will, but then leaves him in search of it. Later, when it becomes possible for He Who Remains to be killed, Loki refuses to kill him because he senses that doing so will start a new cycle of predetermined timelines spawning an infinite number of Kangs. Sylvie is so bent on revenge that she ignores this warning and kills He Who Remains. When she kills him, she is playing the role that he had already written for her.

[@Raidanzoup]

"They did Rick and Morty" and R&M did Fantastic 4's Council of Reeds.

[@BiggestWolf1]

I mean in the comics there’s a council of Kangs

[@bart82464]

^^ what he said lol it’s like people forget that Rick and Morty copied a lot from the comics

[@093_]

I can already smell the Secret Wars movie coming baby

[@danishhamdan2837]

Comin 2025

[@b4194]

It's a series

[@RampageCreeper]

@@b4194 you're thinking of secret invasion buddy😂

[@093_]

@@b4194 you thinking about secret invasions my man, secret wars is bascially the multiverse war

[@babykosh5415]

Phase 4 is going to mess with peoples minds and I'm here for it!

[@biglion4631]

I swear if we don’t get the fucking No Way Home trailer before “What If?” I’m gonna lose my shit

[@bobtheraccoon318]

I think we all will. But that just means that if we don't get a trailer for "No Way Home" before the show "What If?" starts, then it will be likely that the movie has been delayed to a later date.

[@biglion4631]

@@bobtheraccoon318 I swear lol, I don’t wanna fear the worst. But if they don’t release a trailer this month or early August, I think you might be right. Cause the movie comes out in December, so they usually have either the teaser or the first trailer out by now.

[@artsysabs]

A what if trailer is already out tho? 🤔

[@biglion4631]

@@artsysabs No Way Home, not What If

[@artsysabs]

@@biglion4631 yeah ik but the comment is about the what if trailer coming out before the no way home trailer 😅 So did you lose your shit?

[@marmaladevenus3230]

I'm actually surprised none of yall noticed it was Jonathon Majors, or I guess knew that he had been cast as Kang (in Ant Man 3) already. I was so hyped when that elevator opened up haha Edit to add the Ant Man 3 part, because his appearance here was still a surprise to me.

[@graystark240]

Same, it seemed like Suraj new but he doesn’t have the balls to start a convo like that (no offense but that’s just his personality

[@asiaroberson3442]

TBH I didn't know who that was

[@marmaladevenus3230]

@@asiaroberson3442 totally fair haha! I had heard about his casting in Ant Man 3 a while back, but I also have no life and love to deep dive into the MCU (now the MCM?)

[@Merilirem]

This is why i don't keep up with castings and stuff. It ruins so much of the story if you know this stuff.

[@appal5052]

It took me a couple of seconds to realize he was the same guy who was casted as Kang for Ant Man 3. Not too familiar with his work that’s why.

[@charlesjames5059]

I can't believe so many viewers were expecting to see Kang in this show as this big, towering, god-like being, with a booming voice and lighting cracking behind him. We got little drips and drabs of Thanos over the course of 6 years. This was just a soupçon, a hint, a trace of what we can expect from Jonathan Majors as Kang the Conqueror.

[@TooCooFoYou]

We got more set up with Kang than we did with Thanos when he first appeared in Avengers (and even in Guardians).

[@watashiwa_oak]

At the end B-15 says does he wants to let the timelines branch. She was referring to that version of Kang or Kang the conqueror we know from the comics wanting to defeat all the variants of himself to rule over the entire multiverse. I think that’s the version of Kang we’re going to see in the upcoming Ant man movie

[@donemu9096]

We are not going to see the comic Kang just like every single character we've gotten in the MCU isn't their comic version. They're their own version.

[@devinsingleton5242]

"Kang" sent Miss Minutes to Judge Renslayer with more 'relevant' information. So whatever, whenever, wherever the Judge is going, Kang sent her

[@metallicnole4514]

I didn’t actually expect kang or at least a version of him but they made it work. Going forward I was more in awe of this reveal than Luke at the end of mandalorian.

[@user-fq2kj1sw1j]

In Russian, we have a saying: «We wanted to do the best, but it turned out as always (means in a bad way)». So, now when I’m thinking about Selvie she reminds me Ferro Maljin from Abercrombies book-cycle. As Loki said, he is the one, who cannot be trusted. But, as we saw in the end, he’s not. He became something bigger than that, something different from that envious trickster we all known. Now his allies can trust him. And what about Selvie? She is the Loki, that «couldn’t trust anyone else». And she didn’t changed. She faced the pure love of Loki and trusted him, but has no inner strength to handle that feeling of trust that he put at her. And that’s why she destroys their relationship. Because it’s still to scary to trust somebody, even if she knows that he’s not lying to her.

[@hugham]

Thats a good comparison, of sylvie to ferro. Also thats kind of how her relationship with logen went. Almost could have been nice but ended as things always do.

[@DToomer]

"The Road To Hell Was Paved With The Best Of Intentions."

[@andressotil4671]

My country has a similar saying: We fought like never before, and we lost like always

[@user-fq2kj1sw1j]

@@hugham Yeah, same thoughts.

[@ozeramo]

Everything was answered, the multiverse has been open, literally everything is canon This takes us to What if?, spider-verse and then Multiverse of Madness Bet you it won't end there, probably in Thor 4 more Thors and one dies giving Mjolnir to Jane, eventually leading to Secret Wars, this was huge, extremely huge

[@Kaptain13x]

Wow wat… I think you just wrote the next ten years of MCU…

[@ozeramo]

@@Kaptain13x Maybe 2, they are moving fast brother 🔥

[@Kaptain13x]

@@ozeramo lmao you’re right. But really I wouldn’t be surprised if you just nailed the Thor movie. Sounds about right

[@ozeramo]

@@Kaptain13x Yeah I don’t think they are killing Chris Hemsworth or making him unworthy, and they just opened the multiverse so 🤷🏻‍♂️ And bro, they just opened the multiverse, introduce many characters and they have only released Black Widow, the series are speeding things up 🙌🏼

[@Starsaber222]

@@ozeramo I think a lot of the "speed up" is to catch up with where they would have been pre-Covid. And really, we have 3 major plots building right now: the Multiverse, Skrulls becoming more prominent, and whatever is happening Earth-side with Val (and the Power Broker). I'm sure all these plots will interact in a variety of ways

[@MrNathansdad]

I'm gonna chalk it up to how much everyone dislikes Renslayer that you would suggest her character isn't developed well. By the end we know exactly what she is. A company man, she's drunk all the Kool aid, someone who will sacrifice even a friend to what they believe to be "the greater good", a true glorious purpose. She's an antagonist, but definitely not evil. Now that little animated clock, that's evil!

[@TheOnlyHawkeye666]

After watching many reactions I believe the the "Threshold" was as far as Kang knew and he hated that. His power comes from knowing what happens and uses it to win, and the scared timeline was what he knew worked to always win and the beaches where deviating from his "script" and would let him be "He who remains". The TVA is just his way of making it easier to remaining in the shadows. Whatever path the take going forward......is going to be amazing

[@jaanaiasbjrn7929]

I'm fine with the MCU being "predetermined" as it always was. Peter Parker was always going to be spiderman, Tony Stark was always going to be Ironman and Thanos was always going to lose in Endgame. It's the basic heros journey that's been copied a million times.

[@theavatar9191]

It’s really not predetermined though, it’s just all been mapped out.

[@ot7biasedmashups]

@@theavatar9191 exactly! It's not necessarily *meant* to happen but Kaang just paved that way.

[@donemu9096]

@@ot7biasedmashups Yeah, people don't seem to understand what determinism is.

[@JeM130177]

"Are you crying?" "NO i am infatuated as fuuuckkk" Rana speaks the truth tbf I wasn't even a fan of their relationship being romantic but I'll take soft pretty Loki any day

[@Nekotaku_TV]

"kkk" o.o

[@victoriaalmtroberg4681]

Soft Loki can take me whenever

[@JeM130177]

@@Nekotaku_TV I'm just elongating the fuck that'll happen 🤣🤣

[@matthewriley2178]

You guys do realize with the multiverse that the predeterminism is now out the window now right. Time is complex concept and with the multiverse being a thing now, it means that it is a thing in the past as well. All the branches are branching off from all on the timeline, not just from now in the story to the future, in the past as well.

[@matthewriley2178]

@@gerardlacroix6015 My understanding from how they laid it out is that multiverse=free will, I could be wrong but that's how I viewed it

[@bigeent.5160]

I can tell by the reaction to Jonathan majors that u guys have no clue what this means or what’s coming😂😂😂

[@sigh6889]

ong bro that shit was anticlimactic 💀

[@isaiahd2123]

Basically a Variant of Kang traveled back in time and took over the TVA

[@HighLordBlazeReborn]

Chris hit the mark the closest, i think- in Sylvie's frame of reference, she hadn't already killed Kang. In Loki and everyone else's frame of reference, that benevolent Kang was always/already dead. Time, esp in a scenario like this, is tough to get your mind around.

[@sethkiel]

i don't think there'es only one TVA since we were shown a version of Hunter B-15 and Mobius who were both aware of Loki's plan saying "no turning back now". the b-15 and mobius loki talked to at the end seemed confused about the branching timelines compared to the versions showed to us watching the monitor.

[@AtlantaGuns]

Tony and Natasha: we sacrificed ourselves to defeat Thanos Kang: you still don’t know how the game is played... Claudia: hey that’s my line!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ericleavitt749]

Love the dark reference

[@AtlantaGuns]

@@ericleavitt749 thanks Dark is my fav show ❤️

[@pedromrod3]

Jonathan Majors has been confirmed as Kang for a while now, he will be the main villain in Antman and the Wasp: Quantumania Jonathan Majors (Kang the Conqueror) and Wunmi Mosaku(Hunter B-15) are both in Lovecraft Country btw, such a trippy show.

[@merrytunes8697]

Truly enjoyed Lovecraft Country and the cast. Glad to see a couple of the actors in the MCU

[@jayventerrell3578]

9:47 Rana: “not what I was expecting ngl” Spidey: “black guy?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@spideyharper618]

Lol, I crack myself up

[@ot7biasedmashups]

I love the fact that when Kaang is first introduced it's Immortus. And we had the chance to not meet his evil version but then this hope got destroyed. When Mobius didn't recognize Loki I first thought it was just another one but then I saw the statue.... Heartbreaking

[@hellowhat890]

One of the best intros ever... of all time. Pun intended. XD

[@biashacker]

Love the philosophical discussion. Love how Marvel created a show that encourages such a discussion.

[@jerrancebowman965]

This Citadel is in the Nexus of all realities 😵😵😵 this is where Apocalypse steals time RIP Immortus/Kang

[@TheHeroOfMobius]

Yeah, there was a one-shot called “Hail to the King” that came out a bit after Iron Man 3. In that, it was revealed that the Mandarin was a real figure that AIM appropriated for their whole thing, and it gave Ben Kingsley more screen time as Trevor Slattery in the process.

[@RippanCSGO]

This version/variant of "Kang" is most likely based on Immortus. It's not Kang the Conqueror. It will be fun to see Jonathan Majors try out some different versions of Kang in the future of the MCU (including Kang the Conqueror)

[@Rida-il8nq]

Wait....You guys didnt know about Jonathon Majors casted as Kang the Conqueror in Ant man and the Wasp 3?

[@jin-hyepark4252]

I'm sure everyone knows! But thank you for the heads up!

[@bigeent.5160]

@@jin-hyepark4252 they didn’t. U can tel by their reaction to him. They had no clue who he was

[@shortstuff780]

Yeah. Halfway through the episode i remembered that Kinda wish they didn't reveal it until this episode. But all good

[@arthurdeniham7934]

@@bigeent.5160 Yeah

[@jin-hyepark4252]

@@bigeent.5160 I mean the rest of people but them sure!

[@jalenbrown6235]

I have to agree with Sylvie, because in the beginning of the show we knew that the TVA was the only thing keeping the multiverse from existing, and destroying them would create the multiverse and the multiverse war, so Kang telling him that more will come with war doesn't change anything, there would still be free will and that was always the end goal. ❤️ 🖤 🖤 🖤

[@communitygamer117]

There are multiple TVAs. The TVA isn't actually outside of time.

[@k9commander]

In the comics, yes. In the MCU, we don't know.

[@mannylugz5872]

There's probably only 1 TVA when He Who Remains was still alive. But when he died, the TVA also started branching out.

[@simpayshenaides]

@@k9commander yes it would be so messy if theres a lot of TVA, it would be better if the TVA(our TVA) just got reset

[@nemuke1854]

@@simpayshenaides multiversal problems

[@mrhappy3032]

I REALLY think that Each branch has their own TVA!!! This is awesome and the show and the MCU have an infinite number options now available. Phase 4 could be beyond AMAZING 🤩

[@Vipzter88]

Stan Lee? I forgot how freaking funny Pat is. And the intro was the best I've heard yet.

[@chad63]

so that's why there are multiple stan lee's with different jobs they are variants

[@slime_roy]

Lmfaooo that beginning skit was amazing! I AUTOMATICALLY pruned that like button 👍🏾😁

[@ApolosaCakau]

The multiverse of madness has begun Dr. Strange: Great

[@amoil6537]

This season's cliffhanger was literally the embodiment of "I can't sleep, I need *answers* "

[@NitroOfficiel]

One point that you seemed to have miss is about "what make this timeline the one to use": It's the timeline of the one who remains. He said that the war forced people to defend their timeline.

[@isolatedmic]

"Vis-a-vis! Concordantly!" I bet no one got that reference. Will Ferrell, as Larry the Architect, for the MTV movie awards Matrix sketch. DEEP CUTS 🤣

[@lunaticfringe2763]

Also yes, The TVA is now completely opened to a multiverse. For every Kang variant there is, there will be a TVA since he controls it. Whether there's two or two million or is undetermined. Loki wound up in The Conquerors TVA/timeline.

[@josegiron7008]

these lovecraft country actors keep showing up lol its a shame hbo cancelled one of their best show

[@TheKannibalistic]

Now they're getting that *Marvel Money*

[@Matisaro]

"Who said anything about turning back....For all time, always" Marvel about the new phase of the MCU ^

[@Thesms226]

Kang’s real name is Nathaniel Richards a descendant of Reed Richards (Mr. Fantastic), he is a scientist from the 40th century who used future tech to conquer a lot of times except the times where the Avengers where around

[@TheKannibalistic]

Bro the scene transition at 19:41 is so good, it looks just like the cutscene-to-fight transitions in Mortal Kombat/Injustice

[@BharathKumar-bf6mi]

Sylvie betrayed loki feelings For not believing him. She kept asking him "Will you betray me, will you betray me" In the end she betrayed him. And this will change loki (Tom) And she started secret wars.

[@kanyecole8673]

Skit was awesome Lmaoo

[@Growzy101]

Priceless look of confusion right about on the right side of the couch xD just before, "we got answers..and boom!"

[@adinicic4259]

Dude in the middle got it figured out soon as he said that he has been a conqueror.👍

[@notprosperBEATS]

it's weird how they didn't know he was kang already

[@Cbricklyne]

Because they don't know who he is (The actor or the character). they haven't watched Lovecraft Country.

[@notprosperBEATS]

@@Cbricklyne no it's probably because they didn't know he was casted as kang in ant man quantumania

[@gabriellee235]

It’s not Kang. The one who remains is Immortus, who is one of the many versions of Nathaniel Richards, including Kang, Rama-Tut, Iron Lad and the Scarlet Centurion. In the comics Kang was at war with the Time Keepers and Immortus worked for the Time Keepers but not the TVA.

[@Rose-bc3ll]

Many people new Jonathan Majors was casted as Kang, and thus new he was Kang (or a variant of Nathanial Richards) as soon as the elevator opened. Interesting perspective to see a group that had to piece it together. It's also not completely pre-determinism. When we see the CGI of the sacred timeline, it's not just one straight line. It's a thick-tangled mess of lines that weave together, but stick close enough that the proper flow of time continues. It's only for large nexus events that the TVA prunes it, like the branches we see spurting out. One of the things this explains is why Steve Rogers was allowed to live in another timeline with Peggy, it's clear him doing so did not alter the course of events enough to risk multiversal war.

[@JoaoPedro-ol7sl]

The summary on the beginning of the video was hilarious!

[@SSaldanha]

That was he who remains\ Immortus. A good variant of Kang.

[@KoolMB]

season 2 will likely be Loki's perspective during Multiverse of Madness

[@TheAnswerWillleaveyou]

No Tom Middleton is in Doctor Strange 2

[@dovahpiolo]

@@TheAnswerWillleaveyou The Olympic Rower? The Canadian Singer? The British DJ?

[@TheAnswerWillleaveyou]

@@dovahpiolo lol 😆😂 I was using talk to text 😂 but Tom Hiddleston

[@quinnkaplan172]

@@TheAnswerWillleaveyou i think what they meant is that Loki season two will be taking place at the same "time" and over the course of the same event but wont intercross directly.

[@TheAnswerWillleaveyou]

@@quinnkaplan172 but the t.v shows and movies are connected

[@grassygrass1798]

When I saw the timeline branching I was like: OMG the mutants could be in one of those branches!!

[@reachcole514]

The skit was pog, very much enjoy.

[@Choppete]

The only reactors that didn’t jump at the sight of Kang, wow. So, kang in the mcu is (was) “he who remains” and in antman 3 we will see the variant “kang the conqueror, cool. And by the way sylvie kinda fucked un everything, a true loki.

[@evolicious]

Jonathan Majors casting as Kang will be as historic as RDJ-ironman, what a phenomenal actor for this part, he's gonna be terrifying with all the different personalities.

[@jamesfoster9613]

Apparently also if you sync the finales of Wanda and Loki when Kang says "we crossed the threshold" is the same time code of Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch.

[@RyomenCloud]

I usually don’t stay for discussions in reaction videos but this one was fire 🔥

[@paulhewes7333]

that skit was pretty good...

[@syl0_0o03]

i would say that slyvie let her emotions run her judgment

[@alexachipman]

I think that's my favorite skit! I was dying!

[@orangeslice20]

I love these guys skits 😂😂

[@Incog2k6]

Starlord: "Welp, my stupidity caused a lot of damage to the universe." Sylvie: "Hold my Multiverse."

[@yogo8617]

Starlord messed up the plan, Sylvie had a plan the whole show and accomplished it

[@kristovx7]

@@yogo8617 Starlord messing up the plan was Dr Strange's plan. Or else he wouldn't have let it happen.

[@nemuke1854]

@@kristovx7 Starlord messing up the plan was Dr. Strange's plan was Kaang's plan Or he wouldn't have let her.

[@kristovx7]

@@nemuke1854 Mind = Blown

[@briancampbell2346]

I can not believe I just got this. There are multiple TVAs that are staffed with the same variants. That's why they don't remember Loki. He's in a different TVA. It also explains the rings on the table and why Mobius didn't remember the alligator Loki. All of the items in Renslayer's office are all from variants of Mobius.

[@technopirate304]

🤯🤯🤯

[@JupiterChild96]

Sylvie indeed started What If😍😍😍 I was very impressed with this episode, mainly due to Johnathan Majors… he CARRIED

[@charlesjames5059]

Another thought I had: we have expanded SO MUCH since Phase 1. The movies were already pretty cosmic with Thor 1-3 and Guardians 1 & 2. But that was just different planets across galaxies. And then Infinity War happened and we saw a war over the Infinity Stones, stones that controlled nothing less than time itself and the very building blocks of reality. Then with Endgame, we were introduced to time travel. And now, with this, we have been given the MULTIVERSE ITSELF. Like, literally anything is possible now. This is how we get Fantastic Four. This is how we get X-Men. This is how that Spider-Man meme literally comes to life.