LOKI - Episode 1 (My Thoughts)

[@Sarahonwheels]

When loki cried over his timeline, what a powerful moment for him. I have waited for this ever since I met him in 2011. Tom deserves it.

[@spooky_glados8448]

@Parker Voller then why the hell are you watching a Loki - Episode review. Obviously it’s going to have fucking spoilers.

[@Sarahonwheels]

@Parker Voller the video you are watching has spoilers. Maybe don't watch something until you watch the TV series.

[@Therealfakemaxgoldberg]

Definitely, if you’re not going to make a death permanent, this is how you make that death still hold weight

[@kd9749]

Except Loki wouldn’t cry like a douche. You call it powerful, I call it character assassination.

[@ajwaddanwarr3409]

@@Sarahonwheels I love how the comment section is trolling the Spoilerflake. Like God bro its 2021, if you don't want to be spoiled stop going to KZbin and watch the show first.

[@Atheismisareligion]

That moment he first seen Thanos and how his expression faded, so excited Tom gets to show off his talent more throughly as Loki.

[@Hunterese123]

Yes!, seem like all our heroes and villains are going through a lot of pain after Endgame, Wanda, Falcon and Bucky and now Loki

[@chandramohan9801]

Didnt you comment the same thing in other channel ?

[@jaklongshot9056]

I dont think that's the first time he's seen Thanos. Wasn't it Thanos who sent him to get the tessaract?

[@chandramohan9801]

@@jaklongshot9056 yes it wasn't the first time

[@Magguscaster]

Not the the first time Loki is seeing Thanos. It was the reaction of being killed by him after invading NYC only moments ago for Thanos. Loki later laughs & cries from the complete irony of it all.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Nobody, in my eyes, will replace Tom as the perfect Loki, he owns his role like none other

[@trays1503]

Agreed

[@spinny003]

Except for his new variant.

[@merchant_of_kek5697]

You could say that about damn near every character in marvel...

[@hima6287]

dude youre everywhere

[@wasiislam2002]

I know I don’t know you personally but I have been seeing you in a lot of videos comment section for years and now whenever I see your comment in any video I be like yo my man just some guy without a mustache was here😄

[@byronsenior6499]

Imagine being told your life purpose is to fail so that others can succeed.

[@henrietta9206]

i mean like...if you are "letter e" "s" or "r" in Scrabble you get called on, often.. but if you are "z".... or "q" no shame in being an alphabet that is less common..

[@byronsenior6499]

@@henrietta9206 There's a difference between living a generic life and literally knowing you're destined to be an asshole forever just so others can thrive. But I guess of you're humble enough you can still see it for what it is, a purpose nonetheless.

[@lockhart1895]

I know shit that caught me off garde SO FUCKING RUDE

[@depressedbreakfast2614]

Loki watching Odin say “I love you my *sons* “ was really sweet.

[@justinriley]

We jumped headfirst into existentialism and we're only 1 episode in. I love it!

[@spenser9908]

It literally broke the MCU. If we’re to take this seriously, then it ruins any re-watch value for the rest of the series leading up to this.

[@Demigodish4o3]

How does it ruin it?

[@spenser9908]

@@Demigodish4o3 The Loki show literally states free will isn't real. All of your decisions have been mapped out for you. By aliens. It also show a box full of spare infinity stones lying about, with someone using one as a literal paperweight.

[@deanpolinar5858]

@@spenser9908 or they could be lying about some of if not everything about TVA and the supposed "multiversal war" & "merging the multiverse into one sacred timeline".

[@spenser9908]

@@deanpolinar5858 Let’s hope that theory is correct, coz it’s the only way to undo this massive world-breaking writing choice.

[@Liquidruby5]

The moment Loki looked at the infinity stones set the MCU as a whole a new scope. In a human's perspective, the Infinity stones are basically god powers to whoever holds it. And yet, there are people above that power and treat the Stones as paperweights. Really makes you think about the scale of MCU.

[@raniaramadan3819]

Very smart

[@markhendley5559]

You could see his reality fall apart when he saw the stones and realized he really was nobody

[@Cannonfodder0617]

And then you realize: this means Gamora and Black Widow died for paperweights.

[@Liquidruby5]

@@Cannonfodder0617 Holy shit you're right

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Not gonna lie, when the first time I saw those stones, I thought it was just regular rubies or jewelries that you usually seen at jewelry stores because that looks fake. All this time we see the Infinity Stones in MCU, we see it as the big deal but in TVA, they just regular stones. Even you see Loki played The Tesseract like a regular box. Can you imagine if Thanos in TVA, he just be like a regular Titan and he will not take it seriously by The TVA people even no one respect Loki as well as the God of Mischief, they just treat him like a regular guy.

[@ianblackburn75]

A lot of people doing reviews of this show seem to be missing the fact that the TVA is deleting the variant timelines. Jeremy, they don't have to take the tesseract back, they already deleted his timeline. Thats what the device they leave behind does. They literally show it in the animation explaning everything at the start. Those infinity stones are from dead multiverses. Thus paper weights.

[@rottenbass5932]

ooo dead multiverse that sounds interesting id love it if they go deeper explaining it

[@ZacharyFineour]

So say Loki takes 6 of those stones to the main MCU timeline where Thanos destroyed them. Do they remain paperweights? Or do they take the place of the stones destroyed?

[@RebornVengeancex]

No one is missing it. It's called shitty writing.

[@Matt-bg5wg]

@@RebornVengeancex show Mr. Mobius where on the doll the show Loki touched you

[@safarjunaid6828]

@@ZacharyFineour It hasn’t been established yet in the movies because multiverse concept is only starting to gain steam but Infinity Stones only work in the universe where they are from. So if those timelines are erased, then these stones are literally paperweights coz they have no power.

[@shinigami1357]

I saw Loki in the plane, with the glasses and thought to myself "there is no way. There is no freakin way theyre making this guy D.B Cooper" and then they did

[@DR.DisInfect]

Spoilers: Wait til you see what else they show him doing and being responsible for Mandela affect

[@brianmarkley7327]

I think the “showing Loki his timeline” was a clever way of bringing his character up to speed with how we know him. Avengers 1 Loki is fine and all that, but we have grown to love him more through his mother’s death, Ragnarok, and Infinity War. The character development we have watched had to be recreated somehow so that he was closer to that Loki than 2012 Loki.

[@h0197]

nah, its entertaining as you re familar with consistency but didnt the avengers cause so much damage to the timeline. Nebula killing her past self. Technically isnt gamora a variant? Why didnt the time people intevene when nebula or thanos went to somewhere they shouldnt of been? It applies to all of em. It contradicts their rules. Nothing really seems deeply smart. Also the time court system is dumb again because Loki had no intent to break the time stream, as tony himself, broke it by messing up, accidently. Didnt thanos have that intent, wtf? But apparently, its meant to be. How do they come to that conclusion? Because they cheated other timelines, to get half the universe back? so other timelines are not restored Its a 5 year old grade skler answer of tying in inconsistent, lazy, bad writing of oh its 1 in 14 million, its meant to be. Lmfao Again its like a stack.of cards. Well made but Its not smart.

[@turbosoggy5412]

@@h0197 bro I agree but you didn’t need to pull out the 5 page collage essay on us 😂

[@sloth8632]

@@turbosoggy5412 I enjoyed reading it.

[@TheDarkbluerock]

I hope he still will be a different version of himself. Seeing the events sure must have some kind of effect on him, but it's not the same as living through them.

[@s.5242]

@@h0197 The sacred timeline is what the TVA maintain not the others. So as long as the main timeline is ok they don't care, right?

[@MattSaysHello]

Kid: Points at image of the devil Me: “Ah, here we go again”

[@masterstumpy3583]

MEPHISTO! lmao 🤣

[@vickie_g]

My first thought too...

[@GhostRydr1172]

I think they're memeing us at this point. 🤣

[@Serprizebuttsecks]

Loki and the Winter Mephisto

[@maven12LA]

my thoughts exactly

[@lennonladroma593]

"You are a support character in your life" That's fucked up bro, hahahaha this is why we can't blame loki to ruined this timelines😂

[@lizard81288]

You are living so somebody else can be stronger than you. So they can push past their limits and become a greater person, all while you are being used and die a pitiful death.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Deadpool’s whole character revolves around addressing BS forces of nature lol.

[@lizard81288]

@@rubydancer4241 I wonder if so I trust that in this TV show. That would be interesting.

[@killebee6183]

Um then there are no good guys or bad guys they litteraly ruined every significant moment in marvel in under 10 minutes

[@M0no]

I loved the part where Loki talked about how he doesn’t like hurting people and I already enjoy how he’s being dived into as a character so far. (For people saying he’s lying about not enjoying it I know he might be lying I just thought Tom Huddleston gave such a great performance in that part and that’s why it’s my favorite)

[@makasete30]

I loved the part where got a little revenge back at the guard woman who captured him. He reset her over and over. She begged him to stop, and you can clearly see he liked hurting her!

[@coreyb1295]

I too loved how be being dived into

[@godzilla101188]

@@makasete30 reverse time is not hurting her though….he was memeing her LOL

[@Souchi-ito]

@@makasete30 it wasn't hurting her, just making her skip places and she was about to hurt him.

[@Bluargh02]

@@makasete30 to be honest they abused that machine on him. It didn't hurt him. It resets time. So its not really that bad.

[@vishalthefirst4140]

The best part was Loki contemplating if he was a Robot or not Immediately triggered my existential anxiety

[@turbosoggy5412]

Lmao same

[@smarti1144]

@@turbosoggy5412 same. But we have to have one once a week, right?

[@turbosoggy5412]

@@smarti1144 depends on wether I’m awake past 1:00 cause that’s when they come rolling in 💀

[@freshboyfab]

That was a great illustration of his regression from fearless Pompous God to feeling true mortal danger. This show is brilliant lol

[@alexanderulv3886]

@@turbosoggy5412 yeh but going to bed before 1 just doesnt feel right..

[@QuinnF97]

I'm gonna come clean: Prior to watching _Loki,_ I had absolutely no idea whatsoever who D.B. Cooper was. After doing a bit of research on him after the fact, man... hell of a fascinating story!

[@nathandrake9129]

Take it you haven't watch prison break?

[@jamesbacon1776]

D.B. Cooper is quite interesting.

[@RiseOfTheKumquat67]

Making Loki explain his "freedom is a lie" philosophy for ruling and then letting his hypocrisy via the TCA sink in was another clever little bit. It's not as fun to have someone else tell you that you only have one good choice in life.

[@glendarjj3991]

The Owen Wilson line 'so you're apart of the group that's allowed freedom right?" Made me laugh

[@boygenius538_8]

It was a bit obvious, like you literally just accused them of that

[@dubbingsync]

Wasn’t it implied that Loki now exists outside of the timeline? As in the agency reset the timeline and now he can’t go back, at least I think that what the little animated bit implied since as the variant was dragged away I thought I saw a version of him keep on walking with the crowd.

[@derekhofstetler3998]

Yes

[@blademahfudz575]

I think that after this Loki series ended, Loki will be 'reset' and TVA will put him back in the original timeline.

[@bobbyking1738]

@@blademahfudz575 ah man so he has to die😭😭

[@Paradise2003]

You are correct. The Loki from the maintime line is where he's supposed to be. The timeline this Loki created has been deleted and he now exists outside of time.

[@GangstaStan010]

Yep. They were eventually going to kill him. As explained off handily by Owen's Mobius.

[@ChuckD008]

Confirmed that every MCU show will have at least 1 therapy-type scene

[@samboghini]

Marvel has always been (to me) the more therapizing (for lack of a better word, lol), introspective, relatable (?) side of the big brand comics. Exploring the humanity of the super-powered individuals, starting with teenage angst Peter Parker. Won't be surprised if the trend continues, and I don't mind it.

[@Rollercoastr13]

@@samboghini word you’re looking for might be “therapeutic” my friend 😊

[@FULANODETAL]

lucky that not happened with MCU THE PUNISHER

[@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09]

And every show will ignore said scene and never bring it up again.

[@jchanel04]

If you break it down, every MCU movie since Ironman 1 has at least 1 scene where the protagonist expresses his internal struggle to someone, a mentor, father figure, etc. It's one of the reasons people connect to these characters.

[@r520jr8]

I love how these shows are letting the characters actually feel more human and vulnerable. Wanda having to say Goodbye to Vision, Bucky discovering the Winter Solider codewords no longer work on him, Loki watching his growth and redemption to his eventual death in the real timeline. They're all great moments

[@bassicallyraul5256]

AHHHHHHH

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I wonder of What If show is gonna be.

[@appal5052]

I can’t wait for Moon Knight, She Hulk and Ms Marvel. Moon Knight because of his character, She Hulk because of more Banner and maybe Hulk, and Ms Marvel because the Avengers game made me like her character even though the game itself sucked lol

[@r520jr8]

@@appal5052 Ms Marvel was one of the only good things in that absolute shit show of a game

[@h0197]

didnt the avengers cause so much damage to the timeline. Nebula killing her past self. Technically isnt gamora a variant? Why didnt the time people intevene when nebula or thanos went to somewhere they shouldnt of been? It applies to all of em. It contradicts their rules. Nothing really seems deeply smart. Also the time court system is dumb again because Loki had no intent to break the time stream, as tony himself, broke it by messing up, accidently. Didnt thanos have that intent, wtf? But apparently, its meant to be. How do they come to that conclusion? Because they cheated other timelines, to get half the universe back? so other timelines are not restored Its a 5 year old grade skler answer of tying in inconsistent, lazy, bad writing of oh its 1 in 14 million, its meant to be. Lmfao Again its like a stack.of cards. Well made but Its not smart.

[@007Julie]

Tom Hiddleston is such an epic actor, what a treat to see his talent on display. Also, the production design and set design of Loki are off the charts! Can’t wait for episode 2.

[@otakumaster4169]

Bro the emotion in his face he's a fucking amazing actor

[@jildert.]

I think they used the mandolorian LED screens...

[@lightdarksoul2097]

This Loki isn't going back to his timeline. They reset that scene in endgame so he never escaped. This Loki has to be erased or agree to work for the TVA for good. He had seen too much and it doesn't matter how good you are, if you know something is coming you will try to change it. That's the whole lesson Strange taught Tony by not telling him about his death.

[@Robert-wx8lq]

If wandavision taught us anything, it’s that we can’t predict what’s gonna happen

[@austinmj64]

@@Robert-wx8lq yeah bc let's be honest he's prob gonna be in Love and Thunder and if the goal of the TVA is to avoid the creation of a new multiverse but phase 4 is bringing about one and exploring it, safe to say he'll be back

[@tekkblade82]

If the TVA forces a non-branching timeline what was Dr Strange looking at with 14ish million "futures"?

[@Robert-wx8lq]

@@tekkblade82 he was going throw different outcomes. And looking at what worked. Doesn’t mean those timelines exist.

[@Robert-wx8lq]

@@austinmj64 he won’t be in Thor 4

[@destructo6t942]

I liked the first episode more than any other MCU Disney+ show. I've always liked Loki and it'd be fun to see how his story plays out now.

[@h0197]

@Scooter McDingleberry nah, didnt the avengers cause so much damage to the timeline. Nebula killing her past self. Technically isnt gamora a variant? Why didnt the time people intevene when nebula or thanos went to somewhere they shouldnt of been? It applies to all of em. It contradicts their rules. Nothing really seems deeply smart. Also the time court system is dumb again because Loki had no intent to break the time stream, as tony himself, broke it by messing up, accidently. Didnt thanos have that intent, wtf? But apparently, its meant to be. How do they come to that conclusion? Because they cheated other timelines, to get half the universe back? so other timelines are not restored Its a 5 year old grade skler answer of tying in inconsistent, lazy, bad writing of oh its 1 in 14 million, its meant to be. Lmfao Again its like a stack.of cards. Well made but Its not smart.

[@smharyanto4660]

@@h0197 agree, people always overhype disney+ so far, and always feel disapointed later. They never learn...

[@exzyyd392]

@@smharyanto4660 Literally all of his points are explained in the show. He just doesn't like it and for some reason doesn't want anyone else to. He's been posting this exact comment on any positive comment

[@dr.stephenstrange6738]

You could never really get Loki to respect the TVA until he discovered that infinity stones didn't work there.

[@arthand7672]

The DB cooper thing was awesome. Alot of money and effort for a throwaway joke

[@asdkotable]

I hope they keep them coming, reveal a historical mystery in each episode that ends up being Loki's doing.

[@sean_mccadden]

Also still waiting for Owen Wilsons “wow” moment 😂 he already did the “charmingly talking quietly” bit

[@mychaeljones7526]

And the sardonic complement bit.

[@slaplist8377]

It could happen. Nick Fury almost said “MothaFucka” at the end credits of infinity war

[@sean_mccadden]

@@slaplist8377 I absolutely lost it at that scene 😂 it was great

[@jamesshepard3]

I’m sure it will be at an important scene. Disney knows enough about fan service to not waste that opportunity, plus Loki (the show) seems to be pretty meta. Like the time keepers are an allegory for Fiege and the MCU, and Loki existing to cause suffering to make others better is basically a nod how Loki functions as a fictional character in the MCU. They tested the waters of meta-commentary with WandaVision and I think they’ll increase the momentum with Loki as they build toward multiverse of madness.

[@verzadus5716]

@@jamesshepard3 great analysis

[@kemzal]

I was really hoping and PRAYING that when they showed Coulson's death they would at least give a hint that he survived.

[@christianbrown7438]

I know right, would've made sense and would have both been a big fuck you to Loki and also suggest Agents of SHIELD is canon, like when they got Jarvis in Endgame from Agent Carter.

[@djdubc09271]

It's no longer canon. Been confirmed. And even if they wanna say it is, like really? It would be very stupid considering everything that has happened in the mcu and w agents of shield. It wouldn't even make sense so better to keep them separate.

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

@@djdubc09271 i love agents of shield but it has not been cannon. I think feige doesn't want it to be cannon

[@penguinshifu09]

Bruh I was actually hoping for that when I watched it 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Moreinius]

It's not canon anymore because it's too complicated to tie in a 7 seasons TV series, plus it was before Disney created Disney+ and shows like Daredevil and Punisher were also a thing of their own. The Inhumans was supposed to be tied in with Agents of Shields, but then Disney also reacquired Fox, so X-Men is on the menu again. Ironically, it's kinda like this episode, they are resetting their own timeline to reunify all their IPs (intellectual properties).

[@RawbeardX]

when the kid pointed to the stain glass window I was like "it's Loki". not big brain, simply "economy of characters". forgot about Mephisto entirely until Jeremy brought him up... so I guess I know what the discourse for the next month is going to be.

[@carlitoswayp.r.1920]

So they said it at the end so everyone knows numbnuts. Maybe he's different because they didn't show him at the end. So it will be a reveal nonetheless

[@RawbeardX]

@@carlitoswayp.r.1920 did you have a stroke?

[@Nope2479]

@@RawbeardX did you? They revealed its Loki, no ones gonna be debating that in discourse of the show.

[@RawbeardX]

@@Nope2479 is this your first day on the internet? "it's Mephisto disguised as Loki (or Owen Wilson is wrong about it being Loki and it's Mephisto), because in the scene where they showed him... THEY DIDN'T SHOW HIM!" fuck, man. like... wow. to be as innocent as you are.

[@a.r.m.ymoaengene6250]

The director already said it was loki so hopefully people don't get disappointed again

[@haljordan5245]

This is how I picture the underground lower levels of Disney World look, where all the workers are when not fake smiling in your face in the park.

[@demonsluger]

Its even more mysterious than that.

[@sciencecafe1543]

@@demonsluger The TVA is based on the watered down version of Disney World lol

[@da_pikmin_coder8367]

Wandavision: "I'm not supposed to be alive." Falcon and Winter Soldier: "I'm not supposed to be Captain America." Loki: "I'm not supposed to escape the Avengers." Black Widow: "I'm not supposed to be a 2021 release." Shang Chi: "I'm not supposed to become the Mandarin." The Eternals: "I'm not supposed to be this boring."

[@benm5970]

The scene where he’s watching the events of his life was great because it was the first time we’ve ever seen the character of Loki ever express sadness, all the other times where something tragic has happened to him he’s always been able to still maintain a cool head but this was the first time something truly got to him, and I think that’s gonna be a major part of this show, us finally getting to see the emotional vulnerability of Loki

[@SavvyToli]

Yeah that scene was really the scene that made the show super intriguing. It definitely draws you in to wanting to explore more of what is going on. The overall scope of the next big arc is definitely a lot bigger than Thanos. Loki has now found himself to be the puny mortal, the same way he judged humans in Midgard lol. Love it.

[@AtomicoMacaco]

In Thor 2 he actually had a breakdown after his mother's death. I'd argue he looks worse in there than he did in the series.

[@edima]

@@AtomicoMacaco was just about to say that. Plus he had an illusion and all to hide how bad his mom's death hurt him. I really liked how they tied that movie here by saying loki is the reason his mom died.

[@AtomicoMacaco]

@@kp1x what does this have to do with anything tho

[@AtomicoMacaco]

@@kp1x I did play it and I do know... Pretty sure almost everyone does know norse mythology characters aren't originally Marvel's creation, at this point. Thing is no one in this comment chain was even talking about God of War. There's really no need to randomly bring it up here just to sound smart. Both are "Loki", yes, but are very different characters living different lives in different worlds in different medias nonetheless. What you're doing is like coming up in a comment that says "damn iron man is cool" to suddenly reply "sure but kratos is better, have you even played gow? lmao get good"

[@kxvdawg]

Most hyped for this series out of the three! Waiting on them extra Mephisto jokes..

[@derekhofstetler3998]

Loki was mephisto all along.

[@randomcharacter6501]

The real Mephisto was the friends we made along the way...

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Did you see the red devil in the stain glass window on the church when Mobhius talked to the kid? What if it's Mephisto?

[@a.r.m.ymoaengene6250]

@@margarethmichelina5146 its loki the director said so

[@sebinsolomon3276]

@@a.r.m.ymoaengene6250 Did you notice the dialogue of Owen during that scene? after the girl points to the picture Owen says, ''Don't worry, that devil's afraid of us''. 'That Devil' - isn't it specifying a certain entity? rather than just saying 'The devil'?

[@makasete30]

Loved it when Loki got his own back on the guard woman and started resetting her over and over again. After all the punishment he took that felt So good.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I can't stop laughing at that part! That part is funny as hell!

[@cloudnein8114]

Weirdo

[@medicinally]

Yup! Hilarious seeing her get her comeuppance.

[@sloth8632]

Reminded me of, "I've been falling for 30 minutes!"

[@avishek7839]

Tom Hiddleston finally getting his own spotlight to shine🙌

[@gwynzynoodles2553]

Ye! :D

[@jaleel2415]

😭 he's literally the most loved character in the entire mcu and every movie he is in. Literally

[@Tre-vor]

I literally know a few women who are madly in love with him. They post about him on Twitter enough, so this show will definitely sate their thirst lol

[@RebornVengeancex]

He already had his spot line this is just a cash grab

[@bigkmoviesandgames]

I'd like Tom Hiddleston or Henry Cavill to be the next James Bond.

[@dolphin8815]

Ima be real. When Tony died i didnt imagine id care about any Marvel anymore? But my brain seen Loki and immediately got memberberries and i watched it. And im so happy i did? Its super aesthetically pleasing.

[@headsgrowback1]

As soon as the stewardess said "Mr Cooper" I lost it. I couldn't stop laughing. It's such a fun idea, also the fact that Hiddleston looks really damn close to the police sketches of D.B. Cooper makes it even better.

[@issy785]

the theme of the series will basically be free will vs fate, i’m hyped

[@kevinblake6072]

Yes. That's what I love in the episode

[@x.MaverickHunter.x]

I’m surprised Jeremy didn’t say that. As it reminds me of Raziel from soul reaver.

[@FULANODETAL]

im guess than the TVA is the bad guys,,they literaly are breaking the free will of the universe..with some sacred timelime,,

[@simos6jipros154]

@@FULANODETAL Then boom TVA gets destroyed leading to multiverse of Madness

[@suicune2001]

So the plot to the Legacy of Kain video game series. lol. I wonder if they can do as well as Amy Hennig.

[@kingsleycy3450]

Glad to see Loki being an actual character again. Loki was a great character in movie one, but ever since that he's been a massive caricature of himself, doing bad things for the sake of doing bad things. It's not until Infinity War do we see the tragic side of the character again. It's great to have him back in form.

[@byronsenior6499]

It's nice to see someone appreciate Thor 1.

[@veiihe666]

I'd say ragnorok gave Loki some stuff to work with, but it wasn't his story so he wasn't developed much in it. I think these ideas were all there in the movies but he never had enough screen time to demonstrate those ideas

[@hollandscottthomas]

Shout out to the production design on this series as well -- that 60s retro-futurist vibe is just A+++

[@elysemeyers1256]

16 year old me (who was firmly in “Loki’s Army” after Avengers came out) would have lost her DAMN MIND if she knew this series was coming

[@normalgirlcvco]

Same sis

[@elysemeyers1256]

@Daniel Jaramillo we were ALL cringe when we were 16. And if you don’t think you were, it means you’re still cringe.

[@onizuka255]

The fact that we're gonna see loki interacting with other lokis is making me hyped up.

[@ChallHatt]

Finally we all get to see the real side of Loki's personality. He has been described by a lot of Marvel characters as mischievous, badass, evil, trickster, etc. Well most of it is true but that's not the complete picture. The first episode truely reveals what Loki really is and we have waited to see that for a long time. It was all worth it.

[@FULANODETAL]

um i guess he desires the absolute power when he saw the timeline monitor..

[@h0197]

I dont buy it, that he doesnt.enjoy it. So that it only inspires fear or whatever that means. Why was he sinister and happy, when he was eyeballing a guy in avengers Its a unconvincing way to add layers. I wish they.put the same.effort of production to the writing

[@lexinelson1805]

@@h0197 he doesn’t. He wasn’t looking at the guy with the eyeball, he was looking at the crowd. He was smiling Bc of the crowd’s fear. He didn’t like the torture. He enjoys the fear and control over others. But it seems you made up your mind about this character and decide to nitpick on tiny details instead of being willing to see the big picture, so whatever

[@h0197]

@@lexinelson1805 So he enjoys it. I think you re the one who made their mind up

[@h0197]

@@lexinelson1805 Also find my other comment, by clicking on my name, if u assume i just nitpick. This premise of the series has issues. Like gamora being a variant, time people contradicting, why didnt.they intevene when thanos had a intent to disturb a timeline whereas loki just escaped

[@sethcarnius3548]

the potential!!!! I'm so hyped for the next episode! it feels like being a kid again and going to school, talking about the latest episode of your favorite show to pass by time, till the next episode airs.

[@casualfanatic4217]

This is probably the deepest, complex and most horrifying Marvel has been. Loki having an existential crisis and learning that free will and choice doesn’t exist was hard to watch. Keep them coming

[@noremacuchiha]

One reason why I like this show that I haven’t seen mentioned is that it rewards true fans. There’s no way you would understand what’s going on without watching a good chunk of the movies. In a time where everyone whines and complains when they don’t get their way, it’s nice to have a show that actually requires a bit of commitment to watch. This one is for the fans and I’m here for it.

[@FinancialShinanigan]

This confirms The Adjustment Bureau is a part of the MCU. Matt Damon was in AB and also Thor Ragnarok. So was John Slattery who played Howard Stark. They are variants messing up the timeline!

[@mv4770]

Also Hawkeye ;)

[@misspriss2482]

My God the Adjustment Bureau was an excellent movie. Now I'm waiting on Emily Blunt to show up. :)

[@garypoisson2733]

The TVA predates "The Adjustment Bureau" by literal decades.

[@patricksullivan6988]

My theory: Antagonist Loki (the one for which Mobius is hiring him to confront) is the future of the Protagonist variant Loki. He sees that there's no path to power/actualization in his own timeline and he has seen the power of the TVA. He'll seek to master the powers of the TVA and betray them.

[@jamesshepard3]

I like this! So much. I don’t know if I’m sure that the MCU has the guts to do something that nuanced though, tbh.

[@chukwusomebianwunah5766]

Very Tenet

[@lizard81288]

Lol, I also love how people thought in wandavision that Mephisto would come in, and then in Falcon and the Winter Solider, the fans joked about Mephisto. Now, 3 shows in, we get more Mephisto teases, lol. It's like a running gag in the MCU TV show universe.

[@JPPSrules]

But will we see the ghost rider???

[@eccentricorbiter1390]

Those timelines with missing stones were pruned, presumably. So those stones have no home anymore, really.

[@mavsuper]

Loki said it himself. There’s no salvation from this, he’s a variant that knows too much and thus he’s going to be erased, but he can do some good before hand

[@samfrito]

Tom Hiddleston is so great. How did they luck out to cast him so many years ago and still has more to develop?

[@Shade1703]

I think the stones being removed would've created variant timelines which would've caused them to be pruned by the TVA. They just never destroyed the stones so they have all the extras from the removed timelines.

[@rottenbass5932]

Im not sure how they have them, but the infinity stones in the TVA are just stones, nothing more. Since they keep up the flow of time in the sacred timeline, outside of it they have no effect, they are paperweight as they said, because the TVA is outside of the timelines and no magic or anything works there, correct me if im wrong

[@Shade1703]

@@rottenbass5932 yeah I agree, I was just responding to what Jeremy said about all the stoneless timelines being predestined to be ruined. Instead I think timelines where the stones got removed were variant timelines and not a part of the sacred timeline

[@kevinblake6072]

Those timelines are most likely already destroyed with that device they plant.

[@Clydedonovn2424]

Im confused! So tsa doesn't take back the infinity stones to the original time ? Like loki took the teseract, iff they prune that timeline, what about the tesract In original timeline ?

[@rottenbass5932]

@@Clydedonovn2424 I think the timeline where loki took the teseract, they erased it with that device, so theres no place to bring that tesseract back. In short, if someone creates an alternate timeline, like loki did, they get the guy who did it, then erase that timeline. But they keep the stones from these, hence paperweight, cuz they have no power in the tva

[@Ne0MT]

this loki is not going back into his timline lol, i think you missed how they "reseted" the 2012 timeline, thats why they kept the tesseract and were about to kill him since there would be 2 lokies and 2 tesseracts in said timeline

[@Asghaad]

i wonder how long it will take for the "grand reveal" that "reset" means "erase" ...

[@derickmiller6875]

I would love to see Thanos in the TCA being tried. Him finding out that his power is literally nothing there.

[@normansmith9009]

it's not even "his" power

[@lillyrey5727]

Thanks Jeremy 😊 for giving this episode a deeper meaning. I'll go in the corner and cry now😭😭😭

[@tdwendangered7384]

This pilot episode was a “what if” any antagonist ever was told what they were and what they were made to be, everything they did was planned and the result was planned, all the evil and death and destruction you cause was only to make the MC and the heroes around him be the best he can be by overcoming you”. I just kept getting those vibes from it, you can’t tell me Loki just realized he was just a side character who was a villain and got a small redemption arc which ended with him dying 😔

[@glcspoon5802]

I Heard Nexus Event, Multiverse War And Some Other Cool Shit And Went Crazy 😂😂😂🔥

[@kamrrunntv6635]

Bro I know right

[@glcspoon5802]

@@kamrrunntv6635 I’m So Geeked

[@gunther268]

Im assuming this "phase 4 -6" is going to end with a secret war type event and Kang the conquerer or Dr doom is trying to trigger a second one. And the new antman movie is where either the f4 or a younger version of Kang is introduced.

[@mychaeljones7526]

Kang?!

[@gunther268]

@@mychaeljones7526 Kangs a time traveling villan who (from what I recall) conqueres the multiverse but in the MCU case, timelines. Kangs supposed to show up in the antman quantimania movie and be he supposed to be the husband of the judge in loki ep 1. I guess instead of inifinity stones these next couple phases is more about the multiverse

[@thiago4santos]

When he saw the stones on the drawer and realised that he was just a little grain of stardust, that was a powerful moment.

[@akadojaz]

I watch your reviews all the time and never really post a reply but this time I must say your description of this episode was spot on. Everything you conveyed I felt while watching this episode and in my opinion this was the first Marvel series where episode one was an instant rewatch.

[@dadsleftfoot]

My one issue with this so far is that with Endgames explanation of timelines, they’ve broken it about 10 times already

[@flashfreak62]

I don't think so personally. No living beings inside the timelines are aware of the existence of the TVA. So as far as the ancient one knew there's no greater force of order in the universe to prune those branching timelines.

[@dadsleftfoot]

@@flashfreak62 my thoughts behind my comment mostly alluded to the whole idea of Loki escaping. His escape changed the course of the Avengers time heist entirely. Since he escaped with the Tesseract, they had to go back further to get the space stone. So technically with the TVA stepping in, everything that happened in Endgame after his escape is invalidated. With Strange saying that this was the one future that they win, that means that they only win in the timeline where Loki escapes during the time heist. If the TVA stop that then technically that’s a different future. Therefore, according the Infinity War and Endgame, the only future that they can win the battle with Thanos is the future that the TVA inevitably erases because it doesn’t follow the main time line. It’d be an easy excuse to say that Stramge just didn’t see that future but surely he would’ve checked to see if there was a future where the can beat Thanos without Loki escaping. Especially if he checked nearly 14 million possible futures

[@gabesoto9301]

Can we just acknowledge how much of a success the MCU shows on Disney+ have been? WV, good. TFATWS, good. Loki looks to be really interesting. The concept is crazy

[@marballtron7687]

Were they good tho...?

[@diode_wow]

@@marballtron7687 Yes

[@georgeo309]

TFATWS was 80% ass

[@kavehteimory6413]

@@marballtron7687 yes

[@gabesoto9301]

@@marballtron7687 Yes. You can overanalyze them if you want but they were good for what they are.

[@GiraffeGuy631]

Can we just appreciate that we got a web series all because Hulk had to take the stairs.

[@maxim196]

Umm no...What changed the timeline was alternative Tony interfering and stealing the tessaract

[@GiraffeGuy631]

@@maxim196 you realize that I’m joking, right?

[@byronsenior6499]

Not a webseries but yeah.

[@rylewx]

The subtitles spell WandaVision as “Juan Division”.

[@BradTheAmerican]

The Juan Division is a powerful branch and is not to be messed with.

[@crocbattle07]

My cousin used to work at the Juan Division but transferred to Jorge to be closer to his family.

[@lolajaramillo4620]

This whole thread-😂

[@greygowder5558]

The thing I love about this show is that the show's premise is an allegory for when a character hijacks the storytelling process from the writer or storyteller. By being true to his/her true nature, a character can sometimes dictate the direction that the plot goes which may be different than the writer's original plan. In the case of the multiverse, this is referring to when in comics or other mythology, versions of stories are told so many times in so many contexts that they form alternate histories or realities for the characters living in these story worlds. When you bring things like time travel into a story like Endgame, all of the character and plot rules apply to whenever the time jump travels. The TVA is essentially the guardians of the story or "the sacred timeline", or potentially the team of creatives and other workers responsible for carrying a show or movie franchise forward. What happens when one of these characters escapes the pages of the story and enters the world of the storytellers? What happens when a character gains new agency through sentience? And what happens when that character is the god of mischief? The animated clip from the first episode also serves as a fantastic multi-layered meta-commentary on how overlapping and conflicting timelines can lead to chaos in the storyline and in the "canon" of the story universe. This is referring to the in-world continuity problems that lead to reset events like Secret Wars, real-world canon shifts in the comics as Marvel rewrites their own in-universe history, and to the conflicting timelines with regards to split ownership of the film properties. Just like how WandaVision dabbled with a meta-commentary of the history of sitcom television and Falcon & the Winter Soldier dissected the meaning behind nationalist iconography, Loki seems set to be an in-universe version of Marvel showing us how the sausage is made as they prepare for universe reshaping events like Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness.

[@ted.3602]

You could really see the hurt in Loki's eyes when he saw that he got to fight side-by-side with Thor in the original timeline

[@YSO992]

Loki: "I'm a bad bitch." TVA: "Bruh, you're not even the side bitch." This episode in a nutshell. Lmao

[@benwasserman8223]

So i have to wonder: if the TVA is this powerful, does their omnipotence outrank even the Eternals?

[@conormurphy4328]

They outrank whatever the writers need them to in each show/film.

[@jacksonwells2181]

@@conormurphy4328 fair enough

[@taoriq3632]

The eternal are just mutants on steroid

[@lolll3360]

The eternals never die (untill the heat death of the universe they reside in occurs ) so they are probably just floating around untill they just bleep out of existence along with all the other immortal superheroes and villains lol 😂,but I think the tva in the mcu is in a pocket dimension not at the end of time .

[@TheNewsDepot]

I would love it if the alternate Loki was actually an alternate Sif raised by Odin and Frigga as their daughter, Loki. Because, lets face it, if you tell any version of Sif she is not permitted to exist, the terminator like assault on your organization that we saw at the end of ep1 would just be the natural result of your horrible mistake.

[@MatrixMayyhem]

Been waiting for this forever!!! Gotta love Loki!! And him seeing his original timeline was really moving

[@Zorro3k6]

I loved the episode. It's really interesting seeing them follow up from that moment in Endgame. As I'm sure we all knew was going to happen long before they announced the show. Still pretty cool. As much as I like your idea of Loki eventually going back to the timeline to fulfill his role, I don't think that's going to happen. At first I thought they left behind a duplicate Loki in that timeline to get taken to Asgard. But upon reflection, I think what happened after they took him is reset that timeline. So Loki never actually left there and the branch he caused by teleporting away with the space stone is gone. Basically this version of Loki exists outside of time as they said during the episode. And I'm looking forward to him helping the TVA stop other versions of himself. Sounds pretty cool to me and it is a very solid first episode.

[@ambiguousparadox]

Also the soundtrack and general atmosphere of this show is amazing thus far

[@redmint4894]

"it might just be about the multiverse and timelines and possibly destroying all of that..." - yeah, i think the big thing we're heading for is the next multiverse war. aka secret wars.

[@Darkness1984]

Just one Episode in and I can already tell that this is gonna be the best mcu Show yet. And I loved wandavision and falcon/Winter soldier.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Daredevil is the best MCU show.

[@h0197]

nah, didnt the avengers cause so much damage to the timeline. Nebula killing her past self. Technically isnt gamora a variant? Why didnt the time people intevene when nebula or thanos went to somewhere they shouldnt of been? It applies to all of em. It contradicts their rules. Nothing really seems deeply smart. Also the time court system is dumb again because Loki had no intent to break the time stream, as tony himself, broke it by messing up, accidently. Didnt thanos have that intent, wtf? But apparently, its meant to be. How do they come to that conclusion? Because they cheated other timelines, to get half the universe back? so other timelines are not restored Its a 5 year old grade skler answer of tying in inconsistent, lazy, bad writing of oh its 1 in 14 million, its meant to be. Lmfao Again its like a stack.of cards. Well made but Its not smart.

[@NelsonStJames]

Watching reviews of this (or pretty much anything nowadays) it's amazing to realize that the people you thought were going to dislike it and find something wrong with it did exactly that, and the people who took a "I'll wait and see" attitude actually liked it.

[@Eboshis_right_arm]

The moment he watched his death scene was a master class in acting by Tom. The fear of Thanos, then traces of pride and satisfaction at his defiant words, to shock and disgust at his actual death.

[@telltellyn]

My impression was the TVA was destroying all the realities that split from the sacred timeline. That was the bomb they left behind.

[@Puggapillar]

Probably one of the best opening episodes to any of the MCU shows currently, I loved it.

[@giovannigiovanni.7220]

Daredevil >

[@bruce1577]

I was literally just thinking when is someone gonna do a review 😂😂

[@masterstumpy3583]

Sean Chandler has done a spoiler free review already and Tyler Calvert has posted a review already lol

[@bruce1577]

@@masterstumpy3583 ahh I don’t follow them

[@bruce1577]

@@masterstumpy3583 I follow like emergency awesome news, everything always and some others like that

[@masterstumpy3583]

@@bruce1577 funny, I don't follow them. Haha. Well I recommend checking those 2 out. Sean has a schedule and Tyler posts right at midnight lmao 😂

[@bruce1577]

@@masterstumpy3583 ohh ok I’ll have W look thanks mate. I highly recommend emergency awesome news. He’s really good and very good with his community

[@yenmusic56]

If Loki gets “reset” then the avengers don’t lose the tesseract and so…. Endgame is only 2 and a 1/2 hours now?

[@DespairMisery]

They already reset the timeline.

[@Setep2k]

@@DespairMisery yeh because they can do that and basically anything, but they need weakling loki for some reason

[@DespairMisery]

@@Setep2k his show.

[@raprap3096]

Dude

[@Ro-3103]

But doesn't that mean that they changed the so called sacred timeline? Endgame is what was supposed to happen, so by changing it, they change the timeline. (I know I'm late, I just couldn't watch the series sooner)

[@solvemproblerstudios5889]

I’m guessing by the End, maybe post S2 if it happens, Loki will escape back to the original timeline- but potentially in season 1, something will screw up the TVA, bringing the multiverse back into it’s natural, chaotic state- which will lead into Doctor Strange 2 and eventually to Secret Wars- which will be the massive war of timelines- hopefully with Kang and Doom as frontline villains.

[@gautamgupta8215]

I think you forgot about that part when tva first arrives in Mongolia, after taking loki with them they set a time resetting bomb or...something that erased that time line....I suppose. At least that's what the soldier said.And hence loki cannot get back to where he left...

[@h0197]

didnt the avengers cause so much damage to the timeline. Nebula killing her past self. Technically isnt gamora a variant? Why didnt the time people intevene when nebula or thanos went to somewhere they shouldnt of been? It applies to all of em. It contradicts their rules. Nothing really seems deeply smart. Also the time court system is dumb again because Loki had no intent to break the time stream, as tony himself, broke it by messing up, accidently. Didnt thanos have that intent, wtf? But apparently, its meant to be. How do they come to that conclusion? Because they cheated other timelines, to get half the universe back? so other timelines are not restored Its a 5 year old grade skler answer of tying in inconsistent, lazy, bad writing of oh its 1 in 14 million, its meant to be. Lmfao Again its like a stack.of cards. Well made but Its not smart.

[@Asghaad]

@@h0197 1. not unless those changes are the part of "approved" timeline. 2. same as above 3. they didnt say no changes to the timeline are permitted they sayd the timeline was already set and they are preventing BRANCHING out of that timeline 4. they dont care, they casually WIPE OUT any branch timeline created, whether its by intention or accident it doesnt matter to them. 5. because those events are the part of "approved" timeline, any branch out of that stream is eradicated by them 6. this time there are three being that "decided" what apropriate timeline is and are genociding anything that doesnt fit ... its perfect villain setup, because on the surface level they are looking like the good guys but in reality they are infinitely worse than even Thanos

[@h0197]

@@Asghaad Okay, great to hear your thoughts. 1 to 5, you are just stating whats happening but my comment above shows the inconsistencies. 6 is speculation so we ll see if the time keepers are villains? Huh okay cant wait to find out in the series then!!

[@h0197]

@@Asghaad although with 6, the same can be said of the avengers, relating to my 1st reply

[@themarveldcfan3463]

Really love Loki so far. I'm hoping this series sticks the landing, since both WandaVision and Falcon and the Winter Soldier both stumbled on that point.

[@chriswyatt9869]

@therealDale they're not wrong. I also found wandavision and falcon and winter soldiers having lacklustre second halves. Too much squandered potential

[@TJBeyonder2814]

It’s only been the first episodes and I’m already loving this show

[@armhelc7501]

Really feels like a step above the other two. TFATWS and Wandavision were good, but this show really feels deeper and more MCU-like (in large part thanks to Hiddleston of course.)

[@TJBeyonder2814]

@@armhelc7501 You’re totally right this show is such a big step up from the other Two.

[@h0197]

@@TJBeyonder2814 didnt the avengers cause so much damage to the timeline. Nebula killing her past self. Technically isnt gamora a variant? Why didnt the time people intevene when nebula or thanos went to somewhere they shouldnt of been? It applies to all of em. It contradicts their rules. Nothing really seems deeply smart. Also the time court system is dumb again because Loki had no intent to break the time stream, as tony himself, broke it by messing up, accidently. Didnt thanos have that intent, wtf? But apparently, its meant to be. How do they come to that conclusion? Because they cheated other timelines, to get half the universe back? so other timelines are not restored Its a 5 year old grade skler answer of tying in inconsistent, lazy, bad writing of oh its 1 in 14 million, its meant to be. Lmfao Again its like a stack.of cards. Well made but Its not smart.

[@TJBeyonder2814]

@@h0197 TBF I’m more of a DC fan , I see what you are saying and that was one of my problems with endgame too was the use time travel and how poorly explained it was and kinda lazy but was still a good movie.

[@h0197]

@@TJBeyonder2814 I can respect that. Im on the same boat. Theres also plot issues in civil war, winter soldier, i hear from hardcore mcu fans

[@Toadalinakong]

This was actually my introduction to the whole DB Cooper case...pretty neat

[@xedalpha1]

I loved that little extra of the bills flying about since some were indeed found down below. Nice attention to detail

[@_JustEx_]

When the girl pointed at the devil, Morbius said, “That Devil is scared of us”.

[@LBEfication]

I think in the end they will send the "other" Loki back to the original timeline and "our" Loki will continue working for the TVA because of higher purpose or something like that.

[@bigz2008]

that moment when you find out you're a npc in someone else' story

[@rosssapp6990]

This was an amazing first episode. I can tell that this series is going to lead us into the multiverse setting up doctor strange and no way home.

[@patricksullivan6988]

For "timeline fuckery" and determinism, you should really watch Dark. It's so good!

[@hamzahyasin3786]

So the Timekeepers got rid of the multiverse and made one sacred timeline, so that means currently in the mcu there is no multiverse? So is Wanda about to create a multiverse in Doctor Strange in the Mutiverse of Madness?

[@superbobomario8849]

My dumb brain is telling me that there are alot of universes, but they all have the one sacred timeline, and lady Loki is from one of those universes (different from the one we know, because we have a male Loki)

[@cclairewaterr]

There has to be multiple because of the Steve Rogers who lives happily ever after with Peggy.

[@joshuajoe1419]

Since Loki is supposed to build to those movies, I’d say there probably gonna explain that by the end of the series.

[@Chris-gw2xg]

They didnt got rid of the multiverse. They just deleted loki‘s timeline from where he escaped from

[@documentariesoftheworld6201]

or by the end of loki, He ended up destroying the TVA allowing wanda to freely create another multiverse. I mean she is chaos after all and loki being the god of mischieft would stop at nothing to destroy this predetermined fate

[@Foxman955]

tbh as soon as they said the first timekeppers were killed by daggers, cmon there was no surprise when you found out it was loki

[@kainoaman12345]

When the girl pointed at the devil… I was like “Here we go again😂”

[@dezrow4329]

The quick/subtle nod to Soul Reaver made my day!!!! You the GOAT for that! lol

[@HorusHeresy1982]

I knew straight away when they mentioned hunting a killer with knives it was another variant Loki. In fact I basically had the entire script figured out in my head as soon as I figured out the villain which was disappointing. As well as the Outer Limits it reminded me of Clara's end from Doctor Who. She's dead but out of sync with time to faff around as long as she likes until she goes back to the moment of her death.

[@veiihe666]

I think the loki reveal was supposed to be obvious and personally I don't think that's what they're doing here. I think Loki will find a way to return to the original timeline where his future self is dead. Perhaps as a way to repent for his sins. Or they'll do something else honestly they can be really creative here.

[@Asghaad]

if you think the Loki variant is the "villain here" then you have not been paying attention ... hint: he (or she) isnt going around wiping out universes ...

[@wabanunu2]

Was waiting for your thoughts on this Jeremy. :)

[@adderz8619]

Can't wait to see where this show goes and how big the influence is! I'll watch it later then no doubt theorise for another week 😅😁

[@adrianfoster7387]

"Next level intrigue with some timeline fuckery" Oh, you sold me with that line

[@shaizahmedshariff]

6:02 great review! However the tesserract and loki don't have any timeline to go back to because when the TVA captured loki, they reset the timeline or in other words, completely destroyed that timeline.

[@dylan54945]

I wasn’t looking forward too much to this series. Leading up I thought it seemed weird, but I’m so happy they quickly addressed the timeline and time travel aspect becasue Endgame seemed to have introduced so many questions. That really got me intrigued and loving it so far.