Lolita Petticoats & Bloomers | Supporting Local Business!

[@LovelyLor]

UPDATED: LINKS ON SCREEN IN THE VIDEO ARE NO LONGER CORRECT PLEASE FOLLOW THESE LINKS!! NEW SHOP - cream-and-sugar-lolita.myshopify.com/ Etsy has been having issues over the last few days auto suspending shops for no reason with no warning or explanation. Unfortunately, this also happened to Cream and Sugar Lolita. They are working on the orders that were made through etsy and they can still be messaged through etsy. They are still running the same pre-order just on their new shop. Bloomers - cream-and-sugar-lolita.myshopify.com/products/sweet-sugar-bloomers Shorter Petticoat - cream-and-sugar-lolita.myshopify.com/products/whipped-cream-petticoat-long-length Longer Petticoat - cream-and-sugar-lolita.myshopify.com/products/whipped-cream-petticoat-short-length Contact: If you have any questions, concerns, or need a custom size, please reach out to [e-mail] Holly has also addressed some of the concerns in these comments on her Instagram in a video you can find here: instagram.com/p/CHOTmssjmO-/

[@naurrr]

is the petticoat already sold out? i only see bloomers online now

[@Squiggy8440]

@@naurrr yeah, their petticoat links no longer work, atm they only have cut and sew blouses and bloomers

[@krisbaughman3096]

Hey :) are you still selling petticoats?

[@CaraRowen]

They're back on etsy BUT they don't currently have pre-orders for pettis

[@xXJoeyXxcoooool]

Hey, it’s closed, any other suggestions for petticoats?

[@HalicanDrops]

Hi friends! I did notice some comments that some people feel the shorter petticoat is *too* poofy. If you feel this way the longer petti may actually be right for you! It is less poofy and only 3.5in longer than the short one. The best thing to do is measure your dresses and compare them to the petticoat lengths. It will still fit many sweet dresses :) It also comes in both black and white! We are hoping to offer more poof levels, lengths, and colours in the future. But because we are just starting out we didn't want this too be too overwhelming right off the bat. I appreciate all of the kind comments and the constructive feedback as well. 💖 ** also! If you need a custom size, please send our shop a message. We will absolutely make one for you!!**

[@TheStitchess]

It’s super exciting that you guys are doing this!

[@boots1622fan]

I think it's just that the top tier is too poofy and the bottom isn't poofy enough? shouldn't affect the amount of fabric used at least lol. idk for me i really don't like when my petticoat is too wide at the top because it strains the bodice a lil.

[@HalicanDrops]

@@boots1622fan That's fair! The longer one has less fabric used so perhaps for our next run we can do a less poofy short length 💖💖

[@HalicanDrops]

@@TheStitchess thank you so much! I really love your channel btw 💖💖

[@pleaseignorethisismyoldaccount]

That's great! Really amazing of you guys to make petticoats! 💖🌈

[@rynthorn1551]

This is legit so neat, Lor. It really shows the passion that people in the alternativej-fashion/lolita community have for the fashion.

[@LovelyLor]

It was so cool to film something onsite and see the production! I’m really hoping we can do more or this and I can connect with more local businesses!

[@alienrabbit2905]

@@LovelyLor yes!!! thank you for showcasing this- i LOVE that you’re there in person to film 💜🤍💙

[@PixieRosewood]

I’d love to see floofy adjustable hoop skirts in multiple sizes, you only ever see them in one size

[@HalicanDrops]

👀👀 *takes notes*

[@pasitheathanatosasmr488]

My hoop skirt adjusts but idk if I’d call it floofy per se.. it’s from Devil Inspired. I love it so much it’s all I need

[@PixieRosewood]

@@pasitheathanatosasmr488 I was thinking more something like this GRACEART Lolita petticaot Cosplay Crinoline Bridal Dress Gown Slip Victorian hoop skirt www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07FFKJYGC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_t8dPFbJF7PCXT?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[@bubblefaecosplay]

The one I found on Amazon has a plus-size option. I got regular bc I'm teeny, but there was a larger size available.

[@MissFashionVT]

Ooooh i agree!! I bought my first lolita dress a couple months ago, cost me $$$, and i have never worn it because I havent found a petticoat and i want to do Lolita justice as i just might be the only one here., id love an adjustable one in plus size so i could wear it with future coords

[@bexthewitch87]

Someone has been hearing my prayers! I have 1 good petti, 2 crap ones that I layer, and a pair of terrible homemade bloomers that on on their last leg. It's so good to see shops in North America that cater to this need and the fact that you are promoting them is wonderful!

[@devinbaggs7542]

Omg Lor this is so exciting and cool! What a fantastic idea. These petticoats look like they are great quality. I've made many petticoats myself and I want everyone to know that this is a very fair price. I truly appreciate the sizing options, especially for the bloomers. Quality foundational garments are key, and I'm so happy to have a local and ethically made source!

[@artist-hime2901]

The US prices: Bloomers: $31.91 Short petticoat: $79.76 Long petticoat: $87.74

[@coolthinghere6853]

oh tysm, those sound much more reasonable to my usd brain!

[@fnjesusfreak]

$32 for the bloomers? That's not bad at all. But the shipping'll prolly get me even though Toronto isn't that far away.

[@kitchensinkchronicles3272]

thank you that's actually really helpful!

[@insertusernamehere3173]

Thanks!

[@insertusernamehere3173]

Thanks!

[@ElAiNelikeswaffles]

I was actually thinking about buying a new petticoat because I have new dresses that require a longer petticoat. I haven't been able to wear them because of that reason. I'm really glad you have a long pre-order sale going so I can get enough funds to buy one ahhhhh!

[@ysodora8030]

I was in the description, filling my cart before I even finished the video! The fact that I get to support a small Canadian business and ethical and sustainable business practices is HUGE selling point for me. I feel one of the obstacles for me to get into Lolita in the first place has been a lack transparent knowledge on the manufacturing and production of big brand dresses. As such I only own a few pieces, one of which I bought from an American indie designer and the other which I made myself. As I know it’s quite difficult for non sewers to participate in alternative fashion communities in a sustainable manner, options like this are absolutely necessary for this fashion to thrive. :) thank you so much for offering this option!

[@kg4862]

Just ordered a petti and bloomer! So glad to support a north america business!

[@LadyDragonbane]

As I'm used to historical costuming where if in doubt add one more petticoat I was surprised to hear about petti injuries. I'm guessing it's because lolitas don't wear corsets (or its predecessors) but it would be interesting to hear actual lolitas' thoughts.

[@Ilsezwarts]

I think historical petticoats might be different? It's just a lot of elastic waistbands all on top of eachother if you layer them.

[@Ilsezwarts]

Depends on what period of historical dress we are talking about

[@devinbaggs7542]

I also come from a place of historical costuming, and I tend to just keep adding petticoats until I'm happy with the shape, but then only one of my petticoats has an elastic waist, and I've made them all myself to my own measurements, so I'm not trying to cram myself into something made for a smaller person.

[@fitzyfitz95]

I think it is because lolita petticoat are not like 1950s fluffy kind of petticoat with elastic waistband. Us costumers are used to thin cotton with skinny waistbands and only frill at the bottom haha

[@hwrencleaveland459]

that's pretty spot on! In historical fashion, petticoats are layered on stays or corsets which help protect the skin and support the body under the weight of the added petticoats. But often, Lolitas are wearing pettis against bare skin which can cause abrasions on the skin and pain in the waist, back and hips as the weight of the tulle pulls downwards!

[@Zullala]

I'm still using my same 2 petticoats from Candy Violet haha. They have become pretty flat over the... Jesus, probably almost 10 years now. But yeah, I just hatted the thought of buying new ones! I'm really out of the loop for what brands make good petticoats. So I'm really thankful for this video!

[@wlk3607]

very cool to see people in alternative fashion caring about where their stuff comes from and keeping the fashion alive. extra cool that it’s also helping a small business!

[@magicalgirlme]

How wonderful! I am very excited to support this inspiring project. It was so nice to hear from the owner, see the studio, and see the petticoats when worn! That short cupcake petti will be perfect for some of my shorter dresses! I love that this is a North American company and that they accommodate such a wide size range. Thanks so much for sharing this project with us!

[@jamesjoy4636]

I GASPED seeing you wear the dress with the petticoat for the first time! That shape is incredible and they look like they've been genuinely so well made with lolita in mind.

[@wishtopublish]

These are super nice!!! I'm so glad that they're good quality AND the owners are so caring and supportive of their staff. They have a new customer!

[@bairowe8723]

I'm so excited! I've been waiting for Lor specifically to make a video on pettis before I forgo my mess of stacked ones and this is so much better than I had hoped for! Like Lor said my biggest issue was how far away any reputable brand is from me but being just outside of Toronto and someone who always prioritizes buying from small/local ethical brands I think it's time for me to finally retire my five pacific mall/party store pettis. I'm sure my waist is excited to no longer be put through so much pain for the sake of my fashion lol

[@rubykay7485]

the fact that lolita fashion is spreading and becoming accessible from different locations all over the world is so amazing!!

[@elizabetha3936]

I feel like this is the petticoat I have been waiting for. The drive to start my lolita fashion journey might be starting to take affect.

[@SenLightyear]

This is excellent! Lor it's thanks to you that I have had so many resources while trying to dip into the Lolita waters, but the petticoat has been worrying me and now here you are again with another fantastic resource! I am almost done building my first coordinate and was side-eying the petti I got on Amazon so this will be a great help. To Ghost Girl and Holly: thanks for keeping us plus size girls in mind! Y'all are great.

[@purikiss9912]

YES ❤️ I CANNOT WAIT. When this was coming to fruition... I was thinking that I've managed to be in the fashion for 10 years and still don't have One Good Petticoat. I kept telling myself I would prioritize it someday and make an order from overseas, but I never did because it was a big investment that I was worried wouldn't pay off. So FOR 10 YEARS I've been wearing a square dance petticoat that's super heavy and the completely wrong silhouette, a tutu from a ballet recital costume, a non-adjustable hoop skirt, and a bunch of one-layer crinolines cut from thrifted dresses... in every possible combination and all FULL of safety pins to try to achieve the bell shape. Why do I do this to myself? I also have chronic pain in my abdomen and deal with pretty intense discomfort with this ridiculous set-up 😣 Anyway, I am SO READY to trade it all in for the One Good Petticoat I've been waiting for 😭 I'm really pumped about the lycra waistband so my tender tummy doesn't have to be smooshed anymore, and ESPECIALLY excited about the silk lining - I'm hoping it will keep the poof from ending up in between my legs when I walk! (Cause it deflates the dress, feels yucky and is extremely awkward to fix in public.) This is the beginning of a new era in my lolita life 😍 and I'm so excited to support people I love and ethical lolita fashion 💞 #onegoodpetticoat

[@Theprincesssbear]

Sustainability is so important to me, so this is amazing. Can't wait to order

[@PastelGamesUcchu]

Ok but not all gothic coordinates require minimum poof some need the cupcake shape...thats not exclusive to sweet lolita Other than that this is really sweet and im really happy to see you guys helping out a company that needs it! The fact you're using your platform to help a company struggling with covid is absolutely amazing

[@Aurora81689]

I really hope this goes well. I don't have this money rn due to covid bills/reduced work. But I know I would invest in this once I had money. I have sewing skills, and was going to be making my own petticoat following stichess design, but with the cost of materials and time (plus sewing with these different materials is beyond my current skill level) this amount is definitely justified.

[@HalicanDrops]

Thank you so much 💖💖 I totally understand struggling due to covid at the moment. We are hoping these are something we can offer long term! I appreciate your kind words.

[@sa2rtdl]

oh my god this is so amazing 2 hear!! while i am not a lolita myself (i love the fashion but i wear more gothic and punk jfashion styles and etc), i have been looking for bloomers that aren't from some random sketchy site or a place miles away that im not confident in the stock images and sizing... im very excited abt this!

[@InLoveWithMango]

I’ve been meaning to get a black petti for my darker dresses so the timing is great! I’ve also been looking around for some good bloomers, so I think now might be the right time 🤩

[@NinjaWieldingLimes]

This is so fantastic!!! I've been looking for a shorter petti for a while now, and I'm so glad that there's now a Canadian source for them!

[@rebeccaborland4030]

Yay I was looking for bloomers I’m just starting in Lolita so it’s nice to know I can get quality ones since I had no idea what brands would be good for them

[@Squiggy8440]

I love this, i hope the next project is a line of cotton based blouses as blouses are the thing i’m having the MOST trouble with. I have fairly wide shoulders, medium bust and an annoying tummy. Its always one of these three areas that screws with the measurements and wont fit T^T

[@flanncakes]

Bloomers that can actually fit!! Amazing!!!

[@hannahsmith3830]

I clicked the link for the bloomers before actually watching the video, and to see my measurements listed as a large makes me happy for some reason. I'm so used to being plus sized that it threw me in a good way.

[@Littleladyduck]

Ok yes need to try these petticoats, I've want another petticoat but havent been able to since I had to move short notice last month... as soon as I can I will buy a petticoat, and help support this dance shop 😊

[@hwrencleaveland459]

this is so exciting. I love seeing mutual aid like this among local communities!

[@sta._rina]

*sees ethical in the thumbnail* IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE TURN IT UP

[@_captainmagic]

Omagosh I'm in the USA and I havent bought bloomers yet because I'm an American XL/2XL. I see Cream and Sugar sells some plus sized bloomers, I might just buy 1 in each color!! q.q Also, for anyone in the USA:The Black Ribbon sells some very nice petticoats as well!! They're based in San Francisco with a warehouse in Georgia as well. They try to source local labor and fabrics too.

[@xAlecto]

oh! thanks for that!

[@flamebloom4659]

This is such a cool project! I hope it goes well and is beneficial to the small business you work with and lolitas who want a good petti!

[@tamkingshorts]

I just ordered some bloomers, and I'm super excited. What a cool project to support a local business! Also, ordering a lolita item without having to worry about duty fees for the first time ever WAS SUCH A RUSH LET ME TELL YOU

[@BlackSasaki123]

This make me so happy! I always prefer buy Local and it's difficult to buy lolita in canada... I was looking for a black petticoat and I'll go with the longer one for sure! Thanks to keep a local business alive

[@HalicanDrops]

Thank you so much!! 💖💖💖

[@BlackSasaki123]

@@HalicanDrops I hope you'll be able to keep this small business alive!

[@ramen3799]

So happy that it’s ethically made and everyone Is paid fairly!💓💕

[@redonyx5428]

I hope everything goes well as I would def be interested in longer, more a-line petticoats and tea length options.

[@HalicanDrops]

Definitely noted, our goal is to have more shapes and lengths for our next release! 💖

[@Marillawen]

This is a great initiative, I really hope it will be a tremendous success!

[@missalphabet87]

THIS IS AWESOME! Best of luck on this venture!

[@heidimichel]

Really nice content for lolitas living in north america ^^ their studio/place for sewing is really adorable too.

[@jamesjoy4636]

This is such a beautiful, wholesome initiative and I LOVE 💖💖💖

[@obvsaprincess8141]

Wow! How awesome that you're filling a need in so many areas with this project! I'd love to see some additional accessibility in future pettis. Personally I'm able but I know many lolitas come from all levels of ability. A request I see often is for a petti that isn't tight around the waist. I think with your current design you could really easily offer a drawstring waistband petti that has adjustable straps similar to suspenders. That way someone with a sensitivity to tight things around their waist could loosen the petti waistband to a comfortable circumference and use the straps to keep it in place! :) You could probably do the same with the bloomers :) This is just my idea. Love your content and love this project!!!

[@HalicanDrops]

I love this idea! 💖 Our finished pettis are actually going to have a drawstring (our sample garments did not have them, but in our listing we've indicated that the final product does)! But I love the idea of suspenders 🤔 Maybe they could be made in lycra like the waistband and be made as an add on.

[@mirabellegoldapfel6256]

@@HalicanDrops Yes to the suspenders Idea! Some buttons on the waistband like on grandpas trousers and straps with a slider so you can chang the lenght, like on a bra. I have a Larp skirt I wear for a week straight every year in the hottest days in summer, and I can verify that sewing on shoulder straps made it so.much.more.comfortable.

[@glitterandnaps]

I am SO excited to see this! If at any point you decide to expand to another product, I would *really* love to see an adjustable hoop petticoat that would work for people with plus size waists. There’s the Tulutulu petticoat, but from what I understand, though the waistband in the plus size works for plus sizes, the hoops often don’t for those in larger sizes like mine. But oh, I’m so excited to see this, very cool.

[@alexandriacritch3292]

Looks they are all sold out! Any idea when and if they will restock??

[@pleaseignorethisismyoldaccount]

12:02 Yesssss the rainbow circus print!! My dream dress!

[@brennanewbert1449]

I’m so happy, this sounds so sustainable!

[@XouMuse]

Oh that's so neat! And the fact it's supporting a small business is so incredibly sweet. I don't even a main piece yet, but I might have to look at the measurement of the dress I'm eyeing online to see what better length of petti I should get

[@magiccatstudios]

I gasped when I saw the sizes I’ll fit!! So excited

[@sarahelster6835]

I'm so happy that you made this video. Thank you lor for all your content

[@Kimbuucha]

One of my petticoats is in its last days so this video is pretty timely. I’ll definitely check this company out. Thanks for sharing 😊

[@Jilo-Star]

Lor your coord today is so cute! I'm loving the pink!💖💖💖

[@boots1622fan]

i wish i could work in a place like that ;; i feel like sewing is a lost art or maybe they just do so much outsourcing now

[@chanytell]

Out sourcing really has made it hard to be a seamstress it’s really sad

[@xAlecto]

And then when sewing is outsourced, the seamstresses aren't treated ethically ;; It's really sad.

[@AnnaWaytray]

hopefully you guys can make less poofy ones, and smooth them out as well. they look lumpy! good luck

[@kitty..f]

No USA shipping 🥺

[@rocketkitty3357]

This is so great! I hope it will continue and maybe they can branch out to some underskirts in the future as well!

[@thekamiakai]

I would suggest getting a A line petti as well. There are a few dresses that aren't designed for a cupcake petti.

[@nalopennings]

What a beautiful way to help this business ❤❤ Your all so wonderful

[@xAlecto]

Can't wait till next paycheck to help support this sewing house

[@chasewighton4064]

Hi, I'm not specifically into lolita myself though I do really appreciate the style and I love seeing folks who are into alternative fashion lifting up local shops and designers who are committed to ethical fashion! I'm from the Vancouver area, and while they're not a lolita shop per se, Venus and Mars in Vancouver is a local alternative fashion shop that carries a lot of pieces that might appeal to folks who are into lolita, particularly classic or gothic lolita (I don't think you'll find a lot of pieces that will work with the sweet lolita cupcake silhouette, unfortunately, but I could be wrong). Venus and Mars leans more towards steampunk, but they make a lot of corsets, skirts, dresses, blouses, waistcoats and coats in house, while also carrying stock from other brands. I know they've carried petticoats in the past but I'm not sure if they had ones that were made by Venus and Mars (the one I bought from them which is a longer petticoat that works well for A-line below the knee dresses and skirts is from another brand). I'm sure that if they got a bunch of requests for them to make petticoats and bloomers in-house they would probably be open to trying it out if they haven't made ones already. I have a pair of shorts from them, made in house, that aren't quite bloomers but provide that additional modesty when wearing tights and they have some cute lace around the edges. And they're pretty inclusive with their sizing as well, I'm often in the lower range of plus sizes and have always found garments larger than my size there. Anyways, thank you for supporting local businesses who are dedicated to ethical clothing production and labour practices!

[@Minsooky]

I’ll need to check that shop out 👀

[@redfeatheredgirl]

I absolutely love this idea but I wish the structure layer wasn't tulle :(

[@sherrythebirthdayclown3634]

I hope they keep doing more Lolita stuff because it'll be nice to finally have something made in Canada in the Harajuku Style because the more people that want to get in to wearing Lolita they don't have to go overseas to get it thank you for sharing this video

[@wendyharris1121]

Congratulations on the new business venture~! Blessings for all you, and may your efforts see abundance ^o^

[@angelanice]

I absolutely love that you are doing this! I have been getting by on a short non-lolita petticoat so I will definitely go pre-order one right now 😁

[@CopiaPerson]

I love your videos, they are very interesting and well made! Even though I don't wear Lolita, it's still so good to learn about it. Go get that bread!

[@saraeli7687]

Congratulations 👏 good luck with your launch! I love your videos so much ♡ amazing sweet adorable canadian content ♡

[@feegritapan9680]

This is super cool, such a nice initiative! Already ordered mine :D !

[@Tenareful]

Wow this actually.migjt be accessible to me in New Zealand are you going to be shipping internationally?

[@LovelyLor]

Yes they are!

[@JustBeeps]

Just ordered some bloomers!!!! Its so so so hard to find bloomers in my size!!!!!

[@LemnaTrisulca]

Awesome idea! I don't dress lolita but I'm still rooting for the business! All the best to you all

[@kgcat]

Thank you guys so much!! So glad I have until the end of the month to order. Just spent all my money on Honey Cake 😭 worth it

[@FennecFool]

Bloomers that fit me? WHAT. I think I'm gonna hold out to see if you make some longer ones because I want them to peak under my lady sloth JSK but YOU HAVE MY ATTENTION. 👀👀👀

[@threadsandpurrs]

This is great. Do they ship to the US?

[@TreScotts1Fan]

I will buy my next paycheck. Thanks Holly and friends. I eventually want to do rockabilly lolita so there is an idea for another type of petticoat if you care.

[@phantasmagoria217]

Just as I was literally thinking I need a new petticoat! I'll have to check them out!

[@APCLolita]

Uhh the store is gone!?

[@cutepotatoes208]

ooooooooooooooooooh your lashes! I love them! You are a true inspiration :3

[@butterbun7033]

Honestly I always recommend aurora and ariel, I bought mine from their taobao store directly but there are a bunch of taobao resellers that also sell them. It was I wanna say $30 (counting shipping, $16 without shipping). They feel really nice and well made for the price too

[@TheLovelyMudkip]

My good petti got lost in my move after college, I'm happy to support a North American company for some FLUFF in my life

[@lami2279]

thank you for this video! I've been recently into lolita fashion and want to make sure where I'm getting my stuff from is ethically sourced. Are there any boutiques in Toronto that sell lolita esque items?

[@SekaiNoYume20]

I was actually thinking about buying bloomers ! I think I'll get one of these !

[@DetectiveNyx]

i've been pretty desperate to find some good bloomers (my waist-hip measurement is basically cartoonish, and below that even more so lmao) so i'll be keeping this in mind! it's also good to support local businesses (even tho this is closer to my girlfriend's local business than mine lol)

[@psychotophatcat]

I feel you on the cartoonish proportions, lol. Most bloomers that fit my waist would be too tight for my hips and the ones that fit my hips will be too loose for my waist. These look pretty promising though and a good alternative to custom sizing.

[@77noctiluca]

Oh i love this, when my paycheck comes in i am gonna buy one ❤

[@ZombieOwl12]

This is so cool! I can't wait to see where this goes 💖

[@avaconey6939]

Yea I need the petty coats for cosplay and bloomer to lol

[@niceguy4441]

I've been sewing for about a year and a half and coincidentally I'm working on my first petticoat this week lol mine is just two layers though.

[@niceguy4441]

I guess the bottom there is technically four layers cuz I'm caging in some hand dyed rainbow tule

[@theolrazzledazzle2682]

i live in europe and finding petticoats are a NIGHTMARE 😭😭

[@papkinn]

I feel you, only place i can buy petticoat from is taobao and while i really love A&A pettis i wish to have something in cupcake shape...

[@TammyJerkChicken]

Cream and Sugar EU!! I found a place on Etsy like 5 years ago T.T

[@arialarsen4543]

I found a petticoat in a wedding gowns boutique for about 17-20 dolars

[@theolrazzledazzle2682]

@@TammyJerkChicken omg thank you so much you’re a god i’m checking them out ASAP

[@rx500android]

I find some good ones on depop! I'm too broke to buy them, but they're there! There are many lolita sellers on there~

[@whiteegretorchids8234]

Did they stop selling them or are they sold out?

[@69Yolo69Yolo]

Me new in Lolita: i need a good petticoat Lor: well...

[@underwateredplants7396]

Just a note for new lolitas: 0:55 the petticoat is either over stuffed or the wrong shape. I think it’s spose to be A-line not cupcake. Make sure to get the right shape for your dresses y’all!

[@psychotophatcat]

That's always the hardest thing. I got a cupcake/bell shape after being told by a whole mess of people that the dress I wasn't sure about needed a cupcake/bell shape, but lo and behold, it actually needs a particularly poofy A line. (Pleated vs gathered waistlines... pleated looks crazy with cupcake.)

[@mirabellegoldapfel6256]

Well, it is a brand new poofmonster petti and Lor did not pat down the skirt and has a body underneath it, so... I think she has the right form. To differentiate between A-line or cupcake shape, you have to look at the cut of the skirt. If it is a long, gathered at the waist rectangle, like a lot of full printed skirts are, you are mostly a cupcake/bellshape. If it is a circle skirt or a 3/4 skirt, go for an A-line. Tiered skirts are trickier, depending on the length of the pieces of fabric in the tiers- but the have quite a bit of volume from their cut alone, so I wear them without petti sometimes. If the uppermost tiers are rather short, meaning the skirt has not much volume on top, a cupcake might not fit or you need to pull it down. The big tired skirts are also known as petticoat eaters XD. And now the exeptions: If you are an apple shaped lolita, so you have a larger belly, a cupcake shape can be unflattering - the volume to fill out the top of the skirt is already there, yo know. Happens to me with dresses that are natural waist high. So if I am lazy I take my A-line petti, if I want the extra poof, I pin away the poofy layers of the cupcake to the sides.

[@underwateredplants7396]

@@mirabellegoldapfel6256 check out lors insta. There are perfectly normal silhouettes she has that aren’t literal lines going down or in. She knows what a proper silhouette is for the most part. I was bored and spent 10 minutes tracing and making arrows of direction comparing her normal petticoat photos with these. There is a big difference.

[@underwateredplants7396]

@@psychotophatcat aw man, sorry that happend to you :/

[@mirabellegoldapfel6256]

@@psychotophatcat Oh pleated waistlines, good example for an exeption. Did you buy a poofy A-Line or are you stuck with the cupcake one? Wouldnt it be great to have a kinda built-a-bear petticoat? Like a small A-Line petti where you could button on a top layer to a big, soft waistband to make it cupcake- like stacking petticoats, but only 1 waistband and nicer. The historical dress wearing commenters mentioned it kinda, they stack simple drawstring waist pettis on top of their corsets with no problem. I mean lolita fashion has so removable sleeves, bows, collars etc, why not removable petticoat layers.

[@angelahughes1939]

I tried to get to the shop today and none of the links are working. :( I hope this doesn't mean that the experiment was a failure!

[@amberember5761]

I bet its like so hard switching into different outfits to test these out so props to you Lor lol

[@pinkwyvern]

OMG 😍😍😍😍 finally my floofy needs are met!!! also lol i used to layer the leg avenue pettis as well....glad i dont do that anymore. i still have them but im thinking of cannibalizing them into one petticoat for cosplay instead of lolita.

[@rat5725]

I tried going to the website but nothings listed?

[@princessrena1726]

YES

[@amihayashi8651]

W...Where's that adorable Taobao dress from?

[@LacedWithOreos]

Ffffff CHRISTMAS CAME EARLY THIS YEAR! I'd LOVE to support a small, local business and snag a new pair of bloomers AND a more lightweight petti than my MeLikesTea one for hotter days. Yesssss, I didn't even know I wanted this! 💖💖💖