London, England - Glasgow, Scotland by intercity high speed train Avanti West Coast Great Britain

[@imsbvs]

Can I point out, if you buy your tickets from "The Trainline" they charge a handling fee, but if you buy the same tickets direct from the rail company's website the fee will not be charged. Most tickets can be received as a barcode on a PDFdocument for displaying on a mobile telephone (or printing onto paper), but tickets for journeys that cross London and include use of the London Underground will always need to be printed at your nominated station. (London Underground does not use bardoded tickets). Usually you will need to use the same credit card when printing the tickets, I have first hand experience to confirm earlier this week!

[@Trainviking]

I get your point, however I still prefer The Trainline. I think their handling fee should be different based on how much they earn (and maybe increase the handling fee for if I cancel my ticket or so). However why I absolutley LOVE trainline, let's say you book a ticket from anywhere in the UK to a small town in Belgium or The Netherlands, Trainline can do this, linking 3 different booking systems with each other. In countries where there are more companies, you can see the prices for all companies, etc. I know they charge a bit more, but they make it so much easier to book train tickets. I agree the extra fee shouldn't be that high on all tickets, they do receive commission. I'm working in the railway business myself and I know about commissions, in general this is somewhere between 0,5% and 5%. but the average commission is 2 or 3%. Just make the extra price different per country (one example is true but let's say Renfe is giving 0,5% commission in Spain and Iryo 5%, I can imagine 0,5% is not enough to cover all the costs for Trainline, so then I agree on extra costs for Spanish tickets). We just need better booking websites for trains and Trainline is doing, so far at least, the best job in Europe.

[@imsbvs]

@@Trainviking Thanks, earlier this year I travel across Italy and purchased my tickets from the Italian rail operator's website, and have also done likewise using France's, Germany's and Portugal's railways. But, I do see where a benefit might occur having just the one place to look for a multi country trip. Also, paying in my home currency removes the lottery of exchange rates and credit card surcharges for overseas curreny transactions!!

[@harrycoplin8414]

I've also found that requesting a refund via trainline, or changing your ticket to a different time, is much easier than using a train provider's website. They also provide live tracking of trains and splitsave.

[@SeanMidlandstransporthub]

Good to see you back

[@Trainviking]

And a lot of UK video's where recorded this weekend (at least 8), however I won't publish them all in a row. Also my UK video's are doing much better now on KZbin than before, what's a big plus.

[@MattRussell321]

I'm a bit late to this one but really enjoyed it and glad to see it doing well!

[@wedwardes]

1:20 It is "Euston Road" not "Euston Street". There may well be a Euston Street somewhere in the area.

[@Trainviking]

Thanks for letting me know

[@imsbvs]

I picked that up immediately, I grew up in the suburbs of London and part of my time learning to drive was to drive to Euston Road ... those were good days to drive, no roadside cameras, no 20mph nonsense, nowadays London has been made into a hostile place to drive!

[@wedwardes]

there is a "Euston Street" just to the north of Euston Road.

[@AlvinOfficial-UK]

I find the views on the whole route to be good only because:- 1 Out of London, you can do a bit of train spotting and see different stock, 2 Once you leave Preston going towards Scotland, you get all the country side type views.

[@Trainviking]

Agree, especially on the 2nd point, although as a tfain geek I absolutely don't mind the 1st point as well.

[@mariadelmarjimenezarroyo]

Excellent video

[@Trainviking]

Thank you 😊

[@arthurerickson5162]

Nice video. Whenever I’m in the UK I prefer traveling by public transport (trains with the occasional coach/bus). I use a BritRail pass and had the same problem at the ticket barriers that you experienced. However, the Pass QR code did work at the barriers in Scotland!

[@Trainviking]

Yes, I had the same thing 2 years ago with a Britrail pass, somehow it only worked at London Victoria station, hopefully this can be changed and improved, especially for their own product, what are the Britrail passes.

[@imsbvs]

You need to travel back to London from Edinburgh via the East Coast Mainline, either with LNER or with LUMO, both run services on the same route. Lots of great views out the window! this also runs at 125mph, or 200kph. The only trains that run faster are between The Channel Tunnel & London where there are both domestic and international services running.

[@davidsaxon8660]

Lumo trains can be busy and not enough luggage space

[@Trainviking]

I will definetly try that, I planned the trip this time in a way that I can record as much as possible, however when I'm traveling with my gf I'll probably take the LNER or LUMO service.

[@Trainviking]

Lumo is super commercial so I believe t hese trains are pretty often fully occupied. I heard nice stories though but for luggage space I sure believe that. Hopefully I can try it out later on.

[@AymanTravelTransport]

The other slower train to Glasgow goes via Birmingham and the West Midlands, serving more cities and towns on the way, while the fast train bypasses all that on the Trent Valley line running (usually) nonstop to Warrington. Normally, the slow train alternates between Glasgow and Edinburgh each hour while the fast train always goes to Glasgow, although there is the odd occasion where the fast train may go to Edinburgh instead. If you're travelling between London and anywhere between Warrington and Glasgow, ALWAYS go for the fast train, because the slow train is over an hour and a half slower. In fact, when I was travelling to London once from Preston, I bailed a slow train at Crewe to wait 20 minutes a faster train that came from Liverpool and decided to stopover at Milton Keynes. I actually managed to spend a good hour exploring the city centre and having a coffee before I returned to the exact same train that I previously left at Crewe for the remainder of the trip.

[@Trainviking]

Oohhh good to know, well at least you spend your time in a nice way that's the best part exploring new places is always better than just only hang around at the station (basically what I did during the weekend I recorded this hahaha).

[@AymanTravelTransport]

@Trainviking 100% - when I'm using a flexible off-peak ticket, I always like to take advantage of being able to break my journey to stopover somewhere on the way to explore another city. Once, when travelling to Edinburgh, my train was cancelled when it got to Carlisle so I had to wait an hour for the next train; as Carlisle Station had no ticket gates, I could easily explore the lovely centre of this historic city and even grab some supplies at the local B&M. Always beats hanging around the station. The slow train is essentially two routes in one: London to Birmingham and then Birmingham to Edinburgh or Glasgow, all merged into a single service. Birmingham to Scotland via the WCML was historically a CrossCountry route, but transferred to the West Coast franchise and merged with one of the London to Birmingham diagrams when Virgin lost CrossCountry to Arriva in 2007.

[@Brrunoc1]

You do really good videos. I find your environmental points very important. More people need to take this into account when travelling. The busy road that runs past Euston is Euston road, not Euston street. You might be interested to walk down Drummond street just north of Euston square which has a few vegetarian Indian restaurants. Last year I travelled up to Carlisle with a Bicycle. The seat allocation does not automatically assign seats near the bike compartment especially is you use a split save ticket within the Trainline app. This can be awkward if you only have a few minutes to board and the bike carriage is at the front.Bike tickets can be reserved separately from the main ticket purchase (unlike in France) at any manned rail station. The trains out of Euston can be very busy especially at Weekends.

[@Trainviking]

Ooohh sounds like I'm going to try some good food next time when I'm around. Somehow I pretty much always go to the same Indian place when I'm in London, I forgot the name. It's really good and super affordable. I can imagine the spot for the bikes isn't the best spot, actually I haven't thought of it that way. I guess I was lucky during my journey, because it wasn't too busy (the next day it's different though and I have some UK videos coming up in very, very, very busy trains).

[@ivy_lee03]

I’ll be travelling to Carlisle very soon on the Avanti West Coast. I’m wondering if there are luggage lockers or places where you can store your luggage at London Euston if you want to explore the city for a bit? Thank you for the informative video!

[@Andrewjg_89]

Have you seen the new Class 805 and Class 807 Evero that are now in service.

[@Trainviking]

Oh really, I haven’t seen them. I guess I’ll be back in the UK soon haha. I still have another video on exactly the same trains, London to Manchester, however I still need to edit that video.

[@thisis_mudchute]

most people will already know this, but check your platform before the journey, rather than waiting for it to be announced in the station, and just head straight there when you like and it should be much emptier. im not entirely sure if they let you through the barrier before the platform, but if they dont, im sure its possible to wait on 'the ramp' and anyone who has ever heard of euston station should know what i mean. of course, the longer you wait, the more reliable existing info is, but dont leave it too late

[@Trainviking]

Aahhh I didn't know, so thank you for sharing (also good to know for the next time I'm traveling).

[@askefant3053]

The Interrail app can be misleading about seat reservations in the UK. In reality, the UK is a great place to be an Interrailer! Many domestic trains do not require seat reservations at all, except for night trains and certain international routes.

[@Trainviking]

I found out later. Also I had some trains where I didn't even had an assigned seat. Also for Norway the app is very misleading and there the consequences are even bigger, because for most long distance trains you really need a reservation. Actually I'm thinking about making a special "how to" Interrail video, because it's great but there are some thing you need to know (the question is..., where to start, I just need a script for that I guess).

[@Roadent1241]

Can I ask what the song is during the viewing at 22 mins in? Thanks.

[@Trainviking]

Of course, actually I had some rimes in my mind and I asked AI to make a song with these words (it added some more words though), so it's an AI based song. Even though I have very mixed feelings about using AI for my video's when it comes to music I'm every now and then okay with it as long as my video's are true and don't show a different reality

[@Roadent1241]

@@Trainviking ah, fair enough, explains why I couldn't Google the lyrics I heard.

[@peterwhitaker4038]

it is a pity that London Euston is such a Dull station compared to the wonderful ornate Glasgow Central. some Rail stations are wonderful like Glasgow, Liverpool Lime street, York, Bristol Temple Meads and others. but Euston and Birmingham New street are just modern concrete & plastic sad places where you just want to get on your train and go!

[@Trainviking]

Agree, of course it's nice to see investments in railway stations however older stations can be upgraded in a nice way. Also new stations can be nice, look at Rotterdam Centraal of Liège for example.

[@colinreidcr]

first class seems kind of pointless to me even though the seats and service might be better

[@jfmezei]

i enjoy your comments butbplease donaway with background. noise/beat/music while you narrate.

[@Trainviking]

Thank you for you feedback, I'll take this in consideration.

[@jfmezei]

200kmh is just a fast train. Tilting trains are desighed for conventional tracka so by definition not high speed.

[@Sereneplace-628]

How long does traveling from London to Edinburgh take

[@Trainviking]

Agree it's fast, however the way people define high-speed and higher speed... well I don't know, it's just a fast tfain to me. The average soeed is more important than the highest speed.

[@AymanTravelTransport]

​@Trainviking true, the ICE 3 in Germany, for example, may be capable of 300km/h (320 for the newer variants) compared to our measly 200km/h, but they rarely hit that speed and only for short sections the few times they do make it to 300. Thus, the average speeds on most ICE corridors (even with ICE 3) are not much better than the our domestic Intercity corridors (ECML and WCML) which never exceed 200km/h. Hence, London to Glasgow and Berlin to Frankfurt (comparable distances) take a similar amount of time. One is a consistent 200km/h most of the route, while the other has long sections of 160km/h to balance out the short 300km/h section between Halle and Erfurt. The only time ICE 3 reaches its true potential is in France, with continuous 300-320km/h running from Strasbourg to Paris once across the border.

[@chrisrogers5989]

Shouldn’t video staff.

[@Trainviking]

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