LONG TAIL TORSION SPRINGS FOR POLARIS TRAIL SLEDS | WHAT ARE THEY AND HOW DO THEY WORK?!

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[@gordonmckay914]

Very good cutting edge information. It looks like you and Bruce enjoy the fruits of your labour. Thanks to you and Bruce for doing the heavey lifting when it comes to improving these sleds to the best you can with the parts you have to work with. We have applied some of your hard work to our sleds here in the prairies of Canada.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thanks of that! we are doing our best and doing all we can to get you guys all set up and sleds working as you guys want them! thanks for following along and showing support!

[@kevindust2712]

Hey Jesse, I want to thank you and Bruce for this excellent series of videos! You guys are very informative while keeping it fun to watch. I really appreciate it, you helped me a lot while shopping for a used machine. Last week I picked up a 2022 XCR 850 136" and the original owner also watches your channel, so much that he had already installed C&A XPT skis and had the suspension well set up! Cheers from Carp, Ontario, Canada

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thank you for watching and congrats on the the new ride. Glad the videos help and got you pointed in the right direction! any questions ever just reach out!!

[@danrevering]

Nice recap guys! Yes the 16# torsions are literally like pillows and the 18# make the sled turn noticeably better in the woods but take a little pillow feel away on the little chop but still amazing. I've been about 3/8 inch further out on my limiter with these new torsions so far(one 16#, one - 18# on m/m).

[@JESSEJAMES322]

Thanks Dan! Definitely a huge improvement over stock springs. We know how angry the consumers get if they feel any bit of rigidness so we’re testing the light duty for now. I think if I was on a short track this year (took a year to test assault things) I’d be on one and one like you said. Would probably a perfect middle of the road! Throwing my hat in the ring this weekend for some cross country ice racing. Up At Bruce’s now getting the ol girl ready

[@danrevering]

Nice. Yeah two 16# long tails make the chatter bumps basically disappear and isn't rigid for me at 190lbs, its wild. I've been calling them the old man springs. Sweet! Good luck to you! @@JESSEJAMES322

[@fredbishop9434]

Awesome work guys, can’t wait for the Hygear update also. Really appreciate the info, already planning on putting your hard work to use on my next sled! Also, since I’ve been unable to even ride my sled once this year due to no snow in northern MN, I really enjoy at least watching you guys have some fun! Thanks!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thanks for following the channel and appreciating what were doing!

[@jimmywoller7320]

Enjoy that snow! Still nothing here in the Midwest

[@JESSEJAMES322]

we are trying too! little by little going away

[@FalvyPollard]

Great! Thanks for these awesome videos

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thanks for watching! we are trying!

[@Traildude193]

Another wonderful video.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thanks for watching!

[@craigevans7228]

Sick makes so much sense.

[@JESSEJAMES322]

it does!

[@albertsolt5200]

awesome content .thanks guys. i don,t get to comment every time . i,m usually watching on my roku tv. keep the video,s coming !

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thank you for the support!

[@mcalhoun87]

Hi Jesse great video! I also watched the one with the hygear rear suspension kit. Did you do a video of them both installed (long tail and hygear)? Would love to hear about the combination and if they are even better together!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

did not do a video together as we ran out of snow. Bruce did have someone on that combo as we said in the video and it was relayed back to us that its absolutely amazing!

[@alexandermacbeth6707]

Another awesome video

[@JESSEJAMES322]

Thank you! were trying!!

[@stevecote8088]

nice test !!!! 🤘🤘

[@JESSEJAMES322]

thank you!

[@kenguyer1897]

Are you using the stock slide block from the normal spring just re-located?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

correct

[@mobilewintercamp7515]

Great job guys, damn in-depth. So basically it’s more progressive? Sucks up small bumps nice and soft and doesn’t bottom on big hits? The best of both worlds?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

correct but also because its mounted in front of the front torque arm the front and rear of the skid work together which is the big differnece in my eyes. either way they just WORK

[@user-vr1wk9rq4z]

Great info! Have you tried this with the Switchback model? Super excited about this for my wife's '22 Indy 137!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

they do not fit the 146 models as they take a different spring. hopefully in the near future they will make them!

[@shamrockinfitz10]

How would it affect off trail riding. Can you get up above snow in the deep powder?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

im sure it would be good off trail also. will keep the rear skid very flat

[@randymusser8368]

Nice work was wondering if the long torsion spring will work on my 2023 xcr 850 136 if they would be a good fit have do I get a part number an order need them some

[@JESSEJAMES322]

They absolutely will. Can call southside tomorrow and they can get you all set up with whatever you need!

[@paulmollise1856]

With this setup is their a template offered to drill the rail in the exact spot on each side for the longer spring mount location ?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

bruce has the dimensions and if you buy from him he will have all that info for you!

[@scottytechNmore1]

When you and Bruce reviewed all the springs last year did you install any long travel springs because I do not remember any discussion about re locating the block

[@JESSEJAMES322]

These just came out this year so these were not in that video. These springs just came out in the 24 cross country sled

[@matts5308]

Another great video! Is that the "option 16/87" trap springs off the 2024 cross country? Part # 7046150-329 and 7046151-329?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

so they actually make two differnet options. a 16 and 18 pound per degree. i would give southside a call. they have both options and they will tell you what ones will work for your weight etc

[@johnrautenberg205]

Do you think these springs will work on the 128s?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

yes they will! either of the short track 128/129 or 136/137 these will work on. Just not the assaults

[@keithbeaurivage1269]

Have you tried this setup out on a 146 track yet?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

146 takes different springs and there is no option for a long tail spring for the 146 so no. hoping they come out with them at some point!

[@flyin427ford]

Does the Speedometer work on this one? 😛

[@JESSEJAMES322]

yes. that was fixed last year on the original one

[@jeremyflasch4079]

PRO CC best kept secret , well was lol

[@JESSEJAMES322]

no secret! we all know it worked well, were just making it work better!

[@marklinzel5672]

Why doesn't Polaris install these from factory. Are they that much better than the HD springs that you guys rave about?

[@JESSEJAMES322]

this is a brand new spring that was put on the race sleds. takes time to work these into the consumer side. and yes they are much better then any of the standard springs. we dont rave about HD springs we try and express that different weights need different springs. which we had a few options up until now and now we have these as options which come in two different spring rates

[@lichevyil9546]

Yoooo I’m the guy in the black Jeep on 287 the other day

[@JESSEJAMES322]

yoo!! that was awesome. i saw you coming and im like this guy is cruising in this jeep and then you rolled up next to me! glad you said hey!

[@lichevyil9546]

@@JESSEJAMES322 dam right I was cruisin put new shocks on it that day lol she’s planted now lol

[@lichevyil9546]

@@JESSEJAMES322 just remember I’m in the first 10k now that makes me an og when you blow up lol

[@JESSEJAMES322]

ill remember! The Jeep Guy!

[@PatriotBrad]

I really wanted to do this but I couldnt find the part number for the spring in heavy duty equivalent to the standard hd spring for the pro cc skid. I guess I misunderstood the spring rate and preload so normal long tail cross country torsion springs would have worked. I would suggest to help push more customers to south side, post the parts you use in a link to their website so people can buy direct!

[@JESSEJAMES322]

they are not available to the punblic. Have to call South Side and get them through them

[@PatriotBrad]

Thats why I cant find the part number! Thanks for the help! @@JESSEJAMES322

[@Urbansnowmobiler]

What a beast of a sled. I hope Polaris puts you two on the RND Team! Nice job! @polarissnowmobiles

[@JESSEJAMES322]

shes a monster and i wouldnt mind that!!