LONG TERM UPDATE WORK SHARP PRECISION ADJUST SHARPENER

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Neeves Knives

Neeves Knives

Күн бұрын

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@jimsheppard910
@jimsheppard910 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review. I bought this machine and have had excellent results with it. After I'm done with a blade I use my strop to get a razors edge. Your reviews are anti BS and I love them. Have a great New Year to you and your wife.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim! Its a great system and about as good as you can get for the $, work sharp hit it out of the park with this system for 50$ i cant wait for the attachments to come out
@deanvalentino2694
@deanvalentino2694 3 жыл бұрын
Instablaster
@RealDivisionTech
@RealDivisionTech 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your precise review of this product. Working with high precision tools for the past 10 years makes me want tools that have next to no wiggle room. So I do appreciate where you show every point you show where there is play with this tool. Thank you!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Its a great value for the money no doubt and the little things can be tuned not to cause issues
@jmichna1
@jmichna1 Жыл бұрын
There are a number of aftermarket "braces" you can get to eliminate that play/movement in the jaw mount... they are specific to to that Work Shop sharpener model, run about $12-17, and are easy to use. They slide between the base and the bottom of the jaws, and prevent the jaws from moving down with pressure. To locate one use search term 'Clamp Arm Brace for Work Sharp Precision Adjust' at the usual places you might buy and or bid on things.
@trevordelarosa3599
@trevordelarosa3599 10 ай бұрын
Do you have a link for something like that
@jmichna1
@jmichna1 10 ай бұрын
@@trevordelarosa3599 My reply keeps getting deleted... I've tried 3 times now. Try search term: clamp arm brace Work Sharp Precision Adjust .
@jmichna1
@jmichna1 10 ай бұрын
@@trevordelarosa3599 YT keeps deleting my direct replies.
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 7 ай бұрын
It ships with something these days.
@Aggressively_Casual
@Aggressively_Casual 13 күн бұрын
Thank you for the tip. Just picked one up after just purchasing this system.
@bond3737
@bond3737 11 ай бұрын
So, dont know if this is something you would ever do. But I read about this on someone else's channel, tried it and man did it work. So The first knife had a relatively good edge so I started at 600. I went probably a few more strokes than suggested at like 12-14. As you say the jump from "600" to the ceramic is huge and it was taking a ton of time. So here's the trick. Instead of just going to the ceramic and spending a year on that grit you get this stuff called "aleens tack it over and over" You apply that to the ceramic with a finger getting a thin coat all over the ceramic. Now before this you have ordered up some automotive sandpaper. You can get 3 sheets of each grit from 120 all the way to 5000 you take all the grits you need and cut out strips which for this is 1/2"x4. This tack it stuff is insane once its "dry" after a couple minutes you can tack on your first strip. You would think it would slide around and not work. False, its rock steady doesnt move a millimeter. But what about the rest of the strips? Literally every strip can be removed and a new one added with no loss in holding power. The tack it stuff is 5 bucks, the auto sandpaper is six bucks for that giant pack so for 11 dollars you get tons of new grits and the ability to dial it in. Now what about the cyramic stone? The tack it shit is water solluble so when you are done you just wash the stone and its like new. Anyway I thought Id share what id discovered. Every edge ive done so far is like mirror. Im not being boastful im just trying to help fellow knife folks! Cheers
@TMthumper
@TMthumper 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
@TMthumper
@TMthumper 4 ай бұрын
But can the sandpaper sharpen high hardness premium powder steels as effectively as diamond?
@bond3737
@bond3737 4 ай бұрын
@@TMthumper I am sure that it for sure can beat the sand paper at speed. So like diamonds obviously going to go faster all the time but the number of packs of car paper I can buy next to the amount ill pay for really premium stones is not even close. Its a bit more of a pain in the butt but its like right where I want it in terms of time. Like this method is not the fastest way to sharpen a knife even with regular stones. but its good for beginners and kind of fool proof. So like if you check the following boxes- kind of a beginner, not doing 100s of knives at a time, not sharpening by hand. Then also- looking for a stupid cheap alternative to expensive stones this could be a best bet. But will other ways be better shmancier and faster? absolutely
@birdlaw1019
@birdlaw1019 4 жыл бұрын
Any guided system that uses diamond plated stones comes with the same warning. Don't press too hard, let the diamonds do their thing. Pressing harder will NOT cut faster, use a softer touch.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely, letting the diamonds do the work is important and helps the stones last longer
@loder6179
@loder6179 3 жыл бұрын
I use only the weight of the stones on the diamonds
@truckerclock1654
@truckerclock1654 3 жыл бұрын
@@loder6179 and it still flexes
@frederikmare9002
@frederikmare9002 2 жыл бұрын
I have this exact same sharpener... That is a design flaw!... It flexes even if you apply no pressure! It's the plastic that's not sturdy enough
@jazrivvaz1282
@jazrivvaz1282 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederikmare9002 I just support it with my off hand, I can't afford an edge pro or anything like that and it keeps my knives paper cutting sharp without even having to think too hard
@alanmccoll6490
@alanmccoll6490 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional information I watched these back to back and I love your guy's video's. I really appreciate and value how real and down to earth you guys are. I doubt you will but please don't ever change when your channel blows up which it will! Your a hard working every man and a free hand sharpener which I can relate, and you actually care about your followers. In the last video I read so so many comments to learn more about this system and you also find the time to read them all and respond to them. I spent so long reading them and didn't even read them all and Im off work right now lol. I love the respect! Awesome channel!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Alan i really appreciate comments like this, you have no idea how much they actually mean and incourage
@alanmccoll6490
@alanmccoll6490 3 жыл бұрын
No problem bro! Everyone needs to hear good shit when they work hard. People just dont say it enough. Just like when someone does something real good for anyone or does right by me I try to let others know even they are not asking for that. Just why not it doesn't hurt anything. Im a very hard worker. I kill myself more than the guy beside me everyday no matter the day or who Im working with. At shit jobs you dont always hear it or at all, but others I did like one job I had. I was plumbing and doing a lot of oil tanks and burners and every customers house I went to told me so this is the young go getter I've been hearing so much about. Ehat a good boss. Really smart because it brightens your day and a happy worker is a good worker. Well usually depending on the person.
@ibme4251
@ibme4251 4 жыл бұрын
‘Sweetknives’ has videos on putting sandpaper on the ceramic stone for a mirror polish.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yes im so stupid i seen that video and forgot to mention it
@MrDands
@MrDands 4 жыл бұрын
Just no need to buy the expensive 3M adhesive. Double sided tape works just fine and is way easier to maintain.
@southernshop8424
@southernshop8424 4 жыл бұрын
Just saw this after my long comment
@southernshop8424
@southernshop8424 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrDands do that too and agree, less messy too
@Mackalacka1
@Mackalacka1 3 жыл бұрын
The only shitty thing that he does not seem to mention is they are aluminum oxide lapping films, so you shouldn’t really use them on anything like S30V and up in Vanadium content. He always seems to sharpen cheap knives with his 3M lapping film technique. Anytime he sharpens anything even close to a “super steel” he uses a more expensive sharpening method with diamond stones.
@andy_ceb
@andy_ceb 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought this. Seems like a good entry system. With some adjustments to the stones, namely setting different grits strips on the holder, it can be a very good system.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure they have other attachments available now also
@scottallen6058
@scottallen6058 3 жыл бұрын
I sanded the edge of both sides of my clamp. This created a surprising increase in access to the bevels on narrower height blades. I use adhesive-backed lapping film to provide more grit options.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Im giving one of these away a brand new one just showed up
@scottallen6058
@scottallen6058 3 жыл бұрын
I also superglued a copper stopper at the end of the sharpening rod. This prevents the rubber range limiter from falling off.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottallen6058 so smart! Great idea
@capnmatt41
@capnmatt41 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good review, man, and I came to the same conclusion. Killer price point, that movement is problematic. Love your thumb trick to stabilize the blade. I see this as an awesome tool for someone who wants to give sharpening a try to see if they like it and if they do they can set aside a few more bucks for whatever higher end system catches their eye. This is still a value add tool to the sharpening community and I hope it helps get more people interested in sharpening.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a fantastic sharpener that gets killer edges, and i know its great for the community esp at this price point, lots of people cant afford a wicked edge
@southernshop8424
@southernshop8424 4 жыл бұрын
This looks like a great system priced reasonably, thanks for sharing
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely a great system for the cost, best bang for your buck for sure
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c Жыл бұрын
A perfect mirror finish is cool, but as long as it is sharp that is all I really care about personally. If I can shave with it, i will carry it. I have a few different sharpening systems and I really dig this one. My paper wheels are my all time favorite though lol those things make blades insanely sharp.
@jolebole-yt
@jolebole-yt 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest review. I ordered this sharpened and have yet to try it, bit the cons you found are valid. That little play will not make the edge consistent and smooth like the edge at 13:50 :O omg.. that is a mirror razor edge.. i want that edge on all my knifes .
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
The system works great especially for the price you can definitely rig things to make it even better very easily
@bamafaninky861
@bamafaninky861 4 жыл бұрын
I do own the WSPA and consider it the best sharpener I've seen. It is not made to polish a blade. It does do an outstanding job of knife sharpening. My point has been it was judged against systems of a much higher cost for performance it was not designed for.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, and i think thats the beauty of this system its very affordable and gets you an incredibly sharp knife definitely the best bang for your buck
@gmull79
@gmull79 4 жыл бұрын
as a complete noob i feel like i learned alot and accomplished some "decent" results on my first few knives using the WSPA. where as i struggled to make any gains using the spyderco sharpmaker.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i get that, i personally would never reccomend the sharp maker, but i would heavily reccomend this system, especially for someone that cant spend hundreds on a system
@fixedbladejunkie9532
@fixedbladejunkie9532 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought one yesterday. I re profiled my esee 3 from 20deg to 15deg. The 600 grit doesn't remove enough material like I feel it should. I would definitely like to see a more coarse stone for that issue. It took me quite along time to get a burr with that 600. Would also like to see a leather strop add on too. I have a small turnbuckle with plastic feet on both ends and used that under where the knife clamps on to keep it from sagging down when sharpening. Seemed to work very well for me. Overall it's a great system. Has room for improvements though and I'm sure Work Sharp will bring us some additions for it soon
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely I'm happy to see other companies starting to make more and more attachments for it, I just posted a. Attachment to help get a mirror edge, and gritomatic has a 4" stone holder coming for it that will take it to a whole other level because there's so many different stones you could use
@mattnielsen7639
@mattnielsen7639 Жыл бұрын
You should gotten the elite if comes with more grits and a strop
@jimholliman2822
@jimholliman2822 3 жыл бұрын
Kara & Jerad, I just found your channel since I only became interested in knives enough to chase videos on KZbin. I like it! Thanks for your first Precision Adjust video and the Long Term Update Work Sharp Precision Adjust Sharpener. I was thinking about buying that or Work Sharp’s Guided Sharpening System. I realized it was a mater of continuing freehand sharpening, which I was never very good at, or trying a controlled angle system. Your comments convinced me to get the Precision Adjust Sharpener. Thank you.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Id love to know how it works out for you after youve gotten to use it a bit, like everything your results will get better every time you use it
@MrMojo271
@MrMojo271 5 ай бұрын
I sprung for the pro precision adjust $250. I like it, mostly. For kitchen knives, they need more clamp space on the knives. Without it, there is too much movement. My knife gets pretty sharp, but you have to be very light on the touch.
@scottallen6058
@scottallen6058 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve already sharpened over 50 knives. No obvious change in wear or sharpening capabilities.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!! Thats amazing! Were any super steels, i sharpen mostly super steels s90v. M390, k390 s30v, s110v, s35, m4, and many many others, but i also do a lot of mid range steels not to often do i do budget steels compared to the others
@ChainsawUsers
@ChainsawUsers 4 ай бұрын
Every mechanical device will have some float, play. You can adjust the a gle for any play. But with this system you are meant to apply only very light pressure only. I have the same unit. The more expensive unit also had some play in the clamp also.
@markwarren3535
@markwarren3535 2 жыл бұрын
So, I bought both the tower and the upgrade stones. I see about the fine finishing issue. I also have an Onion belt sharper and got some abrasive loops up to 4000. Gonna try gluing a section onto one of the finishing stones, see if that helps.
@mickeydavis4204
@mickeydavis4204 Жыл бұрын
Can use my old Lansky stones on my Work Sharp....drill 2 small holes through the finger grips of the Lansky stone...1 at each end...insert 2 small zip ties to caress the guide rod on Work Sharp...not too tight...use my Klein angle finder to get the rod angle right...works great...easy to swap stones.
@boscojoe987
@boscojoe987 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Work Sharp and what works well for me to get a mirror polish with the ceramic stone is to polish with a Right to Left motion instead of Up and Down. I also use a little soap and water in a little spray bottle to help irrigate the blade by removing the metal dust.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly how i showed to use it in my review for best results, if you have stropping progression is can really help to get a mirror
@webderek
@webderek 3 жыл бұрын
Wiping the ceramic with a wet finger occasionally will take off the steel buildup that appears to be on it. Conditioning the ceramic, lightly, against a diamond plate helps keep it cutting, too.
@johnbalogna803
@johnbalogna803 3 жыл бұрын
What about adding a small block of wood cut to exactly the height between the base and the clamp that would solve the "movement deflection" also use light and consistent pressure on the rod.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely theres many things that people have come up with to improve it for them and regardless its awesome alone but with minor adjustments it can be incredible
@johnbalogna803
@johnbalogna803 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Just received mine unit the other day. Tried it out today there doesn't seem to be too much flex in my clamp as there was in yours. perhaps its comes with wear and use but I will keep an eye out for it. Quickly put a good but not outstanding edge on my Kershaw which I believe is AUS 8 steel. at 23 degrees
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnbalogna803 mine was that way from the box they might have tightened the tolerance a little
@maczke
@maczke 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for honest review 🙏
@jeremyspaulding7735
@jeremyspaulding7735 4 жыл бұрын
Great update! Still seems to be really good for the price. Great video 👍
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Most definitely! Best system for the price that ive found
@jasonlarsen7747
@jasonlarsen7747 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pulling back the curtain for us Jarrod
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
👍
@KenGerathsDuck
@KenGerathsDuck 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I have one of these ordered, this week help me out a good edge on my knife. I also ordered some micron strips that I can put on the ceramic stone.
@BeefGold
@BeefGold 3 жыл бұрын
2nd comment, I know, but Amazon will tell you these are on back order like everywhere else. I ordered one anyway and they literally had it to me the next day. What a nice surprise.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing i just got my second one as well for a give away
@marckimberly6919
@marckimberly6919 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that when you were talking about the knife moving if you push to hard that you didn't have the kinfe in the clamp all the way, you had it on the edge of the clamp where as you should have it to where the spine of the knife rests in the v notch of the clamp
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thats not what is moving its the entire clamp, ive used it in many ways the small knife wont go all the way in and get the angle i want the big knife is all the way in, but thats not whats moving its the clamp itself
@mattadler4710
@mattadler4710 4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much for these videos Jared. I have wanted a sharpening system like this but havent really had the money to spend.
@dbroedlow
@dbroedlow 2 жыл бұрын
I know lots of people use this system or similar ones but I don't understand how they can possibly work correctly to produce proper angles. Geometrically this is a triangle where you can adjust the height of the "opposite side" to pick the desired angle (15-30 degrees). The "hypotenuse" would be the sharpening rod. The "adjacent side" would be essentially the knife blade... But since knives vary in blade size (spine to cutting edge) the geometry changes from blade to blade making the adjustment scale inaccurate.
@punkish7
@punkish7 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good balanced review. System would probably be more than adequate for me.
@charliebaker1427
@charliebaker1427 2 жыл бұрын
I generally dont go back and forth using the system,as counting times feels harder. I generally slide it along the length sideways as individuals strokes
@andrewlasure7828
@andrewlasure7828 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video great review I agree this will work great for a lot of people.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@RKLS90
@RKLS90 Жыл бұрын
Im as beginner as it gets for sharpening, the only thing I’ve used is a pull through. I was planning on buying this same model but the Elite model that comes with 7 abrasives(220, 320, 400, 600, 800, ceramic, leather strop & ceramic rod). In your opinion is there a better option for my skill level of sharpening or is the Work Sharp model I mentioned the best bet?
@Practical3DP
@Practical3DP 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one. I plan to 3D print a brace that slides between the base and arm.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! 3d printer must be awesome to have
@czwest7845
@czwest7845 4 жыл бұрын
I bought aTSPROF manual knife sharpener and love it . Money i spend on my knife collection no brainer for me just saying!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Awsome!! Having a knife collection some how or however you need to have your edges done, even if you send it out as long as your edges are sharp, who wants a dull knife
@to2s134
@to2s134 4 жыл бұрын
Those TSPROF systems, seems to be real sturdy and the best option money can buy. But that's also the problem. They are very pricey. After wranglerstar reviewed it, the popularity and the price, skyrocket. I wish I could afford it. And wish I could learn to freehand sharpen.
@czwest7845
@czwest7845 4 жыл бұрын
@@to2s134 They have a few models other that the pricy K03. They will be coming out with a new smaller model this year! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eGernJpuqL55oaM&feature=emb_logo
@patdud1979
@patdud1979 4 жыл бұрын
Best review so far on this thing 👍. I saw those small flex in there video and I was disappointed ☹️ I already wish for a pro model that Is made out of aluminum and remove the flex !!! Now I can’t wait for a video comparing this to a KME or Wicked Edge 🤙
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think its fair to compare, because a wicked edge is like 500$ more and a kme is hundreds more as well, it should be compared to the lansky and ssystems alike, for the $ its an amazing system but no system comes without issues, id love to see an aluminum version
@davyboy1379
@davyboy1379 3 жыл бұрын
Would using oil help when using this system?
@photopete7903
@photopete7903 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t the depth of the blade alter the angle on this system? A larger knife sharpened with the setting on 20 degrees will end up sharpened to a shallower angle than a small knife sharpened with the setting on 20 degrees? Isn’t that a problem?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a problem but yes angles can change you can always get an angle finder if it's a really big deal, and you can see and adjust to the appropriate angle you want, but yes angles can differ
@echosierra9990
@echosierra9990 6 ай бұрын
It’s a decent system for the price, for most people. If all you want to do is to sharpen your EDC, and get a decent, sharp, useable edge, it’s fine. If you are sharpening several blades every day, and you want that mirror polished edge, and you’re a super perfectionist, you probably won’t like it. Also, it’s not for “regular” pocket knives, as those blades are too narrow.
@richarcm
@richarcm 3 жыл бұрын
I had one deliver last night. I’ve been using the Sharp Maker. Which I have kind of gotten okay at using. But these type of systems are just so much easier to use. I probably should have gotten a more premium system. Just spend the money and be done. Because now I’m feeling like I’ll never be completely happy with this. I always want a system that is better than I am. So I can grow into it. And I’m not sure this is that.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah for the money its amazing, and ive got one on the way to give away, but its not going to compare to a much more expensive system but its not supposed to
@simonnizerontheroad
@simonnizerontheroad 2 жыл бұрын
At what angle would you sharpen a Civivi Lumi with this thing? I just ordered this very same sharpening system, and as much as I love the Lumi, I was quite disappointed how unsharp it came out of the box. With a proper edge though, it would be my preferred size/style for a little edc, probably in my personal top 5.
@darshankumardave7485
@darshankumardave7485 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you a detailed review. In one of the video manufacturer states that the knife spine should fit snug in outside V grooves of the clamp so that knife wobble can be minimised. I don't know how effective it would be though. Also it may not be easy for knives that are not too wide.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it benifits larger knives a bit, but the entire clamp moves slightly, so wedging something or holding it helps a lot
@Keith_the_knife_freak
@Keith_the_knife_freak 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update 👍👍👍👍👍
@samnorris7693
@samnorris7693 3 жыл бұрын
I'm getting one of these and going to check out double-sided tape with the finer grit sandpapers...I got a Lansky with the diamond stones but I'm not so happy with the thing.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the base? And you will probably like this system a lot better, i reccomend it over lansky for sure especially now that they have more attachments
@thomaschainey3230
@thomaschainey3230 4 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks. Thanks for the things to keep in mind when I use mine once it arrives. I was think if I clamp the sharpener down to the table I may be able to add a block of wood that was the exact size to fit just under and back out of the way the prevented is from moving down when I press the stone down to hard by accident stopping any movement so it doesn't have the problems of uneven sharpening resulting in the splotchy finish. Also maybe putting something under the sharpening stone to shim up any play so it doesn't move in and out when you apply pressure.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely theres many ways to set it up for success, its already fantastic so little adjustments when setting up can definitely improve and is very easy
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
So how will I know exactly when the Burr will be ready to remove and start the sharpening process ..
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
You can feel it and if you watch the grt you can see it, i have an entire sharpening playlist answering tons of sharpening questions, but a burr is steel that folds over to the opposite side, so you can feel it like a wire on the entire edge, but you want to watch the grt also so that you hit the entire bevel, you should check out my playlist because a lot of sharpening things relate with all ways of sharpening
@russell32579
@russell32579 3 жыл бұрын
I glued a 10lb barbell weight to the bottom and painted it black to match....also I took off the stone guard. I filled up the back with acoustic foam to get rid of that plastic hollow sound.. then lastly I glued the rotating piece to the base to keep it sturdy Do those fixes and this thing is seriously bad ass * Correction I glued clamp piece to inside of rotator
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Everything sounds great aside from gluing the blade clamp, because then you can't flip it without taking it out of the clamp, I personally don't like it to come out until finished because the angle changes, I know I can trace it and replace it very close but seems like it might be more frustrating trying to match it up the same Everything I'd had to flip it
@russell32579
@russell32579 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnivesforgive me I ment to say I glued the clamp piece to the rotator.. the outside of the clamp piece is glued to the inside of the rotator..so you can still flip it
@russell32579
@russell32579 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives the weight turned this thing from a " ah. Its ok" item to a " fuuuck ya this is the shit now" seriously made a huge difference
@chriswalls6667
@chriswalls6667 3 жыл бұрын
I’m probably going to buy this, but will drill holes in the front so I can mount to a board so I can clamp to a table or counter.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@stevestory8483
@stevestory8483 3 жыл бұрын
If you just need to touch a knife up would you use the 600 grit and the ceramic or just the ceramic?trying to figure out in what situations you use all the parts of the sharpening system versus just the finer grits? Thanks for any help
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
If I'm only honing I just use the Ceramic atleast as far as this system goes
@stevestory8483
@stevestory8483 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives thanks. So when just touching up use the ceramic in what cases would you just use the 600 grit? Trying to figure things out so your help is greatly appreciated
@stevederjones7340
@stevederjones7340 4 жыл бұрын
I want one that’s for sure. I think it is going to give the Lansky system a run for it’s money . Lansky being the leader of affordable angle guide system.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
It for sure gives lansky a run
@CharlieMikeNS
@CharlieMikeNS 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Which would you recommend if you had to recommend one in this price range?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
@@CharlieMikeNS this one
@CharlieMikeNS
@CharlieMikeNS 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives awesome, thanks!
@tallywhacker5137
@tallywhacker5137 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you 👍🏻
@stoneblue1795
@stoneblue1795 2 жыл бұрын
I am adding up the cost of all the aftermarket Etsy farkles to make one of these somewhat more stable, etc., and it seems by the time a guy gets all the hotrod parts to de-bug this thing you are nearing a basic KME system that is going to perform better without all the flexing and plastic.
@jasonmiller9495
@jasonmiller9495 3 жыл бұрын
I have this machine and the KME. I also bought an adapter and films from Gritomatic that fits the Worksharp. I get a better mirror polish with the extras from Gritomatic on the Worksharp then the KME. For some reason the KME gives me a hard time on maintaining a consistent angle then the Worksharp. I’m sure I’m doing something wrong. I’m using the upgraded Worksharp not the one being advertised
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've done a few videos on attachments and how great this system is with attachments and different stones like venev I also have another video coming with even more
@jasonmiller9495
@jasonmiller9495 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives they are great videos . That’s where I got my info from. Keep up the good work on your videos. You and Metal Complex got me into this hobby and I absolutely am hooked. Lmao I have to slow my roll down a bit though Ive been buying way too much lately. 🤣
@baileymoto
@baileymoto 2 жыл бұрын
You mention the difference between stone grits. Any idea what workshop rating the are? For example, wicked edge are ansi rated stones, which is different from a typical Japanese whet stone rating. A 1500 grit ansi stone is, if I recall, somewhere similar to about a 4000 grit Japanese whet stone.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
The rating on the work sharp are similar to American grit rating, as most diamond plates are, which are going to be more coarse than wet stone at similar grit, I do notice they are finer than my other diamond stones like dmt or ultra sharp. Tsprof or venev use an f rating which is different and are from a russia,, they are basically 3× finer so a 200 would be like a 600. But as far as the work sharp go they are similar to dmt or ultra sharp grit ratings. A Japanese or other wet stones are very different even the scratch pattern than diamond
@geoffconner6783
@geoffconner6783 2 жыл бұрын
i have a problem with chef knives that have a tapered spine, narrows from handle to tip. Blade rocks, as the fatter portion of the blade gets clamped better.
@carloscervantes836
@carloscervantes836 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe they can make a pro model so the budget can allow them to use better materials with tighter tolerance and add some extra stones. This looks very nice for the price, I would imagine one for twice the price would still be a nice buy.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing!
@michaelvoorhees5978
@michaelvoorhees5978 2 жыл бұрын
Well I have small stones and they still work after 47 years.....
@gblan
@gblan 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Gonna shop around for something a bit sturdier. Too much slop in that system for me.
@1130jawz
@1130jawz 4 жыл бұрын
I put a sliver of a strong tape in each channel/groove in where the clamp slides in, it removed a majority almost 90% of the vertical play and all the lateral play!! And I use the PSA lapping films on the ceramic and it’s great and removing it leaves no residue!! Getting mirrors 😄
@Jerome.Du.Quartier
@Jerome.Du.Quartier 4 жыл бұрын
do you mind sending me a picture? mail2jvw@gmail.com Thanks !
@1130jawz
@1130jawz 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jerome.Du.Quartier gotcha! Use good electrical tape, not the cheap stuff. It will stick well, just make sure it’s thin enough to the clamp with still come out. Or wedge it in there good and don’t really take the clamp out, upon think I don’t pull it out that much anyway! I even insert the knife with the clamp still in it. It’s really easy and useful. Can’t really go wrong, trial and error. I’m liking the system, after that easy fix, and some lapping films, loving it!!
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing Josh and great ideas
@GG-ml3vr
@GG-ml3vr 3 жыл бұрын
Great advise,this realy works well.Thanks
@jameswmallory6634
@jameswmallory6634 Жыл бұрын
Just had the head flip out with my knife in it hit my ankle had to go to the ER to get dura banded, made me miss two 12 hr shifts. But even though I like the design but magnets need to grip harder.
@larrysutton2001
@larrysutton2001 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend their upgrade kit or just move along to one of the universal stone holders?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket parts but there's value in the upgrade as well
@chefknifeworks1885
@chefknifeworks1885 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job and thank you for the follow-up video. Side note: WS is coming out with additional stones for this system sometime in February - I believe...
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
That will be awesome cant wait, they definitely knocked it out of the park with this system for the cost that they did
@greghalter934
@greghalter934 3 жыл бұрын
On Ebay check out 3M lapping paper. A guy has 3D printed another slide to stick the lapping paper to and it goes up to 60k grit. Mirror finish.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I reviewed that, and I also recently reviewed a 4" stone holder attachment that turns this system into a much better system all around
@humbllbug
@humbllbug 3 жыл бұрын
will this sharpen to an arm-hair shaving sharpness?
@biggznet77
@biggznet77 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it will
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@AlirezaMoeini
@AlirezaMoeini 11 ай бұрын
Hi Thank you for your good video, how long does this knife sharpener usually work?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 11 ай бұрын
It depends on how thick the edge is and what angle you sharpen at, it's not a fast one this would be on the much slower end of Sharpening, if you want speed then you want a system that uses 1x6 inch stones and get a very low grit starting diamond plate, the professional is a good one from work sharp
@AlirezaMoeini
@AlirezaMoeini 11 ай бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Hi Very thanks my friend
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
So trying to find this sharpening system has been a pain in the Rear.. Places are still sold out. So as a quick solution I am thinking about just getting the lansky Deluxe 5 stone system.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
If you get a lansky get the one with the diamond stones, and the ceramic and saphire stones, also make sure it has the base, just suggestions
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives oh the one with the regular stones is not a good choice
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 its ok but not great since the stones are small and thin, you want them to cut fast and diamonds cut fast especially if your wanting to sharpen steels like s30v and up, it makes the system far better with atleast the coarse and medium grt diamond, then the other stones will work fine
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives so if i get the regular 5 stone but make sure to get the coarse diamond and medium diamond stones I'll be good . I'll be sharpening mostly 1095 AUS8 AUS10 and 1055 not any super steel
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 yes you definitely should still get the those two diamond stones and it will make things so much easier, and make sure you get oil for the other stones, or mix dish soap and water, but which ever one you start using stick with it dont switch
@arnemariusholter5903
@arnemariusholter5903 4 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this for kitchen knives? Or should i bit the apple and learn hos to sharpen on whet/diamondstones instead?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
You absolutely can use this on Kitchen knives, I personally would rather freehand but most people would most likely rather use the system
@southernshop8424
@southernshop8424 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 25 dollar generic all steel fixed angle sharpener off amazon like this and for higher grits i use the cheap harbor freight diamond sharpeners with a red, blue and yellow plastic that i use for rough reprofiling, then the stones that came with it up to 1500 grit that feels like 900 grit, then i go to automotive sandpaper spray glued to the back of the plastic hf diamond sharpeners up to 3000 grit and put a mirror polish razor edge on a budget. Have less than 40 dollars in the whole system. Also strop the burrs off with saddle leather and green compound. And time. I learned to sharpen my wood chisels with automotive sanpaper to a mirror finish using a jig that i made from hardwood from a fine woodworking magazine b4 internet came along. Sandpaper spray glued to a hard flat surface like glass or mdf.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Sounds like you have put time and effort into perfecting a system to work for you, wish more people would, theres so many more benifits to knives when you get into sharpening and different finishes and edges
@southernshop8424
@southernshop8424 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives thank you , enjoy your channel and appreciate you and your wifes hard work
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
What about double edged Daggers like for instance the Cold steel Drop forged wasp ?
@rickkerans8485
@rickkerans8485 4 жыл бұрын
The review was excellent. Now I am second guessing getting one. I think they need a smaller clamp for smaller knives. Would you think it would be better if you used the blade grinder if you have it to start the reprofile then use that to finish it??
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
I think its far worth it, i think you will still be very happy getting one
@nunyabusiness4026
@nunyabusiness4026 3 жыл бұрын
I see what your saying about the blade flexing, but, it appears that your not seating the back of the blade right into the V at the back of the holder as (I believe) the instructions say you should. I think if the blade were properly seated that would help with the amount of movement and give your thumb a rest.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter I've had this for a while but now I have other attachments that help it, watch some of my aftermarket attachment videos if your interested I have another one coming up soon as well
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
So this vs the Lansky system with the Diamond hones ? Which would be the better One to Buy ..
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
This
@RippSnortin
@RippSnortin 2 жыл бұрын
Lansky vs Work Sharp. Which one?
@gspam154
@gspam154 3 жыл бұрын
Great value for the money, but the clamp won't really hold my small knives (Manbugs, Ladybugs, Dragonfly, pen knives). 3" or larger blades work well. I also use the Sweet Knives lapping films and extra stone holders.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Why not
@gspam154
@gspam154 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives The blades aren't deep enough to get into the v-notch on the clamp evenly and the clamp width is too wide to find an even purchase on the short blades. Try a small Spyderco.
@Hungrybird474
@Hungrybird474 2 жыл бұрын
They should sell another 3 sided stone with 1000 2000 and 3000 ceramic right ?
@Reviews-Tidbits
@Reviews-Tidbits 2 жыл бұрын
Why not use lapping 3M (TM) 7 Sheet 4-1/4 inch x 11 inch PSA Lapping Microfinishing Film On your ceramic mirrors up nicely
@eastsider5199
@eastsider5199 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to use oil or lubricant thanks
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
You can but don't have to with diamonds the Ceramic I think you should mix water and dish soap but you can use it with just water or oil, there's attachments available now for this that allow you to use any kinds of stones including the exotic ones, check out my work sharp 4" stone holder attachment video
@nandayane
@nandayane 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the review. my experience with the system is similar I like the benchstone kit better. If I am understanding the review correctly: the KME sharpening system may be a better value in terms of cost per sharpen. as their diamond stones can do something like 300 sharpenings a piece.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I recently posted a new attachment for this device that makes it as good as a kme and allows you to use any stones even the high end ones, work sharp 4" stone attachment check out my video
@mikeborrelli193
@mikeborrelli193 3 жыл бұрын
Are the 300 and 600 grit both diamond 💎 impregnated metal plates ? I won't even attempt reprofiling blades or even getting an apex with softer stones anymore..
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they are metal plates with diamonds on the surface
@mikeborrelli193
@mikeborrelli193 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Hey man, Thanks for the reply back.. Ive been looking at this but no one has mentioned the type of abrasive used until I watched your video..
@todivetoday
@todivetoday 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good video, very informative
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
I know this might sound like a silly question .. But can someone actually over sharpen a knife to where it actually Becomes dull again ?
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262
@harveybeekerthegreysquirre8262 4 жыл бұрын
@@colesullivan7204 I believe I've actually done that because I thought it wasn't sharp enough lol..
@mityjoeyoung8855
@mityjoeyoung8855 3 жыл бұрын
They have a kit you can order for 30 bucks with the other grits you are talking about and it comes with a leather strop that you can put in place of one of the stones.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t out when I made this video
@nsmturbo5902
@nsmturbo5902 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link? The only replacement stones I see are the same ones that it comes with.
@mityjoeyoung8855
@mityjoeyoung8855 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsmturbo5902 DLT trading has or had it. Or goto work sharps website.
@nsmturbo5902
@nsmturbo5902 3 жыл бұрын
@@mityjoeyoung8855 I'll keep looking but the only upgrade I'm seeing is for the "guided" system that uses 6" x 1.5" stones.
@mityjoeyoung8855
@mityjoeyoung8855 3 жыл бұрын
@@nsmturbo5902 wow ! My bad. You are correct. I purchased the precision sharpening system and I thought this accessory upgrade kit was for the precision sharpening system. It's not. It's for the guided sharpening system. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
@panchovilla939
@panchovilla939 3 жыл бұрын
Would a thin knife like a 940 be able to be clamped and sharpened on this?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely ive clamped thinner
@panchovilla939
@panchovilla939 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Great thanks!
@ClintCoon1976
@ClintCoon1976 10 ай бұрын
For anyone watching in 2024, there are 3D printed clamps, braces, stone holders. 😊
@breezeratchford6527
@breezeratchford6527 4 жыл бұрын
I like that knife you said BANG with.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Yyyeeeaaahh
@gant8408
@gant8408 5 ай бұрын
get the upgrade that includes 1 more tristone and a strop boom problem solved i have the one with the strop mirror finish every time
@oldfart9287
@oldfart9287 4 жыл бұрын
I have not seen this system in real life but would it not be possible to make a small block of plastic or wood that fits under the clamp to stop the wobble? I think I will buy one ( they are not available in England at the moment) I am sure that when I buy one I will devise some stability, anyway good video from a guy who knows his stuff thankyou I was gonna spend much more money for something else
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Im sure you could come up with something others have said the have wedged and made ways to make it better, but even as is its a great system thats highly recommended
@robertdewalt8711
@robertdewalt8711 4 жыл бұрын
Would making a custom made block to put under clamp to keep it from moving work?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
No honestly, holding it works because you have to hold it anyway to stop it from falling forward, the only real way to deal with it is the same pressure, but all in all its a great system and its only 50$
@robertdewalt8711
@robertdewalt8711 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives , thank you. I am hoping this one becomes available in new year in my region so that I can order. I recently ordered Worksharp Benchtop Whetstone Sharpener, and Worksharp Benchtop Benchstone Sharpener and would like the one in your video as it is portable to take car camping. The reason I ordered the two other ones Is because in my region precision adjust sharpener not in stock yet and I wanted option for car camping. At home I use Blade grinding attachment with my Ken onion system and I recently re-profiled 2 blades to 17.5 degrees and did final honing and polishing with cloth belts.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertdewalt8711 thats awesome im going to do a video soon on regrinding a blade with the worksharp grinder, and i want to get one of those bench stones from work sharp and test it out.
@sinill17
@sinill17 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome~!!!!!^^:: Between this product and Lansky4, Would you like to recommend????
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
This one especially since gritomatic is offering an attachment that will make this system a game changer
@fobranator4.636
@fobranator4.636 3 жыл бұрын
What benchmade knife is in the sharpener in the beginning of the video?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
NAKAMURU SAIBU
@Thesilentwolf7610
@Thesilentwolf7610 3 жыл бұрын
How to replace the stones ? any links please ! thank you.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Check on worksharps website, but you should just get an aftermarket stone holder attachment, I have a video for it, thar way you can use any stones you want that are way better. I've got another video going up soon on a ton of amazing attachments even more than my last attachment video
@Thesilentwolf7610
@Thesilentwolf7610 3 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives Thank you my friend :) Will do ! this will be my next knife sharpening tool.
@Jay_Michael
@Jay_Michael 3 жыл бұрын
What angle does a Benchmade come with from the factory?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the knife normally around 22.5° sometimes 25°
@USCGCoasttoast
@USCGCoasttoast 2 жыл бұрын
can it do 12 inch knives
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 2 жыл бұрын
As long as they are not to thick, there's aftermarket parts the can help
@BeefGold
@BeefGold 3 жыл бұрын
Springs (or rubber grommets) against the bumpstops!!! The lightest of firm bumps will shake the whole assembly even while holding it. You'll get going. You'll go a little faster and a little harder than you meant to. Pretty stiff springs (or rubber grommets) will last long and give just enough and push just enough to help keep thinks flat.
@thump3r
@thump3r 3 жыл бұрын
I seen a video where they do not go up down motion and only in clean pressure swipes from base to tip. id imagine this take 10x longer for a good edge though.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 3 жыл бұрын
I do that as well, there's different ways to sharpen depending on your desired finish
@Shambley1
@Shambley1 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid as usual. I got a kizer t1 the other day and Im having issues with it. The detent is weird on it. It doesn't suck the blade in smoothly like all my other knives. It's either out of the detent or in it. There is no in-between. It doesn't come out of the detent smoothly either. It's like it's stuck and has to really break free. On all my other knives there is resistance and then you can feel it smoothly coming out of the detent. This one feels like it's stuck then roughly breaks out of it. I'm not sure what to do to fix it. I don't want to send it back but I am not happy with the action. You also have to have the pivot tightened all the way super tight or there is jiggle in the blade anytime it's not locked in the open position. Any tips on what I could do?
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Check and see if theres something in the detent hole, also make sure your not holding the lockbar when opening this knife does have death lock wich is when you putting pressure on the lock bar it wont open
@Shambley1
@Shambley1 4 жыл бұрын
@@NeevesKnives yeah I'm going to take it apart tomorrow. It's not me holding the lock bar. Even when I hold it without my hand on the lockbar and do a two hand open it sticks. It's like the detent ball is stuck in the hole and it has to pop free. It feels absolutely horrible for a knife that expensive. I'm very disappointed in how it feels. My $25 tangram Santa Fe has an action that is 100x smoother. For $140 I expect much better.
@NeevesKnives
@NeevesKnives 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shambley1 maybe you should return it and have them send you another, i know it has a strong detent, but yours sounds like its beyond that
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