Longer Turn Times At CGC?!?

[@cwwheelz]

Great hints. These summer children don't remember the days when we submitted books and left the incoming slabs in our wills.

[@PalmBeachComicPresser]

My initial reaction to the long turn around times at CGC was that CGC will always disappoint us. They transition from scandal to long turnarounds to price increases. I also remember measuring how long it took to get books back in SEASONS instead of months - submit in summer and get them back in the spring of the next year. However, much like you said Bry, longer turnaround times will probably mean a larger price premium for graded books for those of us that invest, submit and are patient! 💰

[@Dragomo-David]

If I send books to CGC by Monday, I want them by the following Monday 😂😂😂 hi Ron

[@leelewis5730]

Bry has recommended you. I'd like to get a small stack of books cleaned and pressed and graded. I've never done it and these books are not big grails or anything. They're for my PC. I don't even know how to start the process. If you clean and press books do you then send them on to CGC?

[@jasonhbush]

I don’t see the price premium hitting for some time. There is a massive supply of graded books out there. Every show and site has the standard spec or it books. I don’t mind the wait but the quality control is just so bad I would rather wait for PSA or try another company. They run their business poorly. Numerous unforced errors and not an ounce of contrition.

[@larrysmith7301]

I can vouch for the turn-around time as I sent in five siler age Avenger books which I believe CGC received August 23rd. It is November 18th and I have heard nothing. As you said, it is what it is.

[@greedygoat71]

Good info the community. Thanks Bry! Keep them coming.

[@rogerfleming1782]

I think you're right. Prices are going to go up. Great video. Thx Bry

[@RCXploits]

The last thing CGC can afford is to raise prices. If you ask me they are circling the drain already 😅😅😅.

[@JK-qg3qj]

I just submitted a bunch of books 2 weeks ago. Your video has lessened my annoyance at the turn-around time. Thank you!

[@geekimusprime]

The CCS pressing fast track is hilarious. You go from 22 days to 19 days for moderns, and 26 days to 24 days for vintage. Not that you ever go with CCS.

[@samuelcatoe1927]

Only with one of their signings, right?

[@BrysComics]

That’s ridiculous lol

[@MintHunterComics]

I've noticed it's mainly the VINTAGE that take a while now. I saw moderns still take 1-2 months (maybe 3 at worst)

[@hieinh]

That's great. i have some sonics and urotsukidoji I'm gonna send in

[@paytonardoin688]

You’re 100% right on the values going up. Not to mention maybe a longer turnaround time means they have more time to actually take their time grading books? I hope so

[@sidneyrivera3578]

Thanks for your efforts Bry. Good information. Keep grinding bro!✌️

[@stacked_shortbox]

People keep neglecting to mention their recent grading sale. They offered for the almost entire month of October a pretty decent discount on grading fees “10/10 Day”. Plus we just had New York comic con so tons of submissions were done there too and then you add on employee layoffs and, boom. Substantially increased turnaround. My previous submission from a few months ago came back to me within less than four weeks.

[@BrysComics]

Truth

[@jeffstanley6013]

Not only the October 10/10 sale but also that vintage sale ($30/book, min 15 books) back in the summer; you know, about 81 days ago. 😁

[@turkeybacon1914]

Fairly new to collecting. I still haven't gotten anything graded. Thanks for your tips and info

[@LG-kw6fn]

Just out of curiosity I gave CGC a call today as the new 81 day wait period was revealed on my books 47 day at their facility. I wanted to know if the new turn around would be compounded. Of course I knew it wouldn't, but I wanted to get a sense of how backed up they are. The customer service agent was amazing as always and we had a nice chat. Would you believe there are some 40,000 books in the arrears!? Welp they are and IMO to no fault of their own (well maybe a little). CGC has an unsurmountable task that manifests by being bombarded by greedy vendors dumping pallet after pallet of BS books in an attempt to get a 9.8/9.9. True there is the collector that submits a 50 book for slabbing but a fool and his money are...... With respect to the PV they are not the cause of CGCs 40+ thousand woes. Wonder who then, I wonder who....? So how does CGC solve this debacle. Easy. RAISE PRICES SUBSTANTIALLY!!! I could go on and on but that last tid but should keep you dastardly vendors busy. Or not. Whatever.

[@jasonhbush]

I don’t see greedy vendors dumping massive amounts of vintage books.

[@LG-kw6fn]

....said the blind man.

[@jasonhbush]

@@LG-kw6fn the only books I’ve seen massive dumps are what are considered modern. Hulk 181 and similar titles Wolverine. CGC ran discount specials and took on too much work. Nobody is finding massive stashes of 1960’s and older for a 9.8. Most of that stuff already went through during the boom of ‘22.

[@LG-kw6fn]

Pallets and Pallets... I just assumed it would be understood that the involvement was Modern era. Should have taken Benny Hills advice. Beam me up.

[@jasonhbush]

@@LG-kw6fn CGC has different teams that grade vintage books. They’ve been slowing down vintage for some time which is why it was odd for them offer a massive discount. Poor management and corporate overlords.

[@MichaelHeavilon-x7i]

The QC department at CGC needs more people. I had 125 slabs come back and 50 needed to be submitted for ME because of contaminates encased with the books.

[@xigencystudios]

This is correct. Right now, it does seem to be taking longer to get books back. Right now, I have a modern book sitting for about a month. No worries on that. But I have a magazine that has been sitting with them (CCS to be exact) since August. I'm still hoping for the best on turn around. These to submissions are for other people who I submitted for. Been keeping them updates as the process go along.

[@dbulls33]

Always appreciate the content here man! Always learn something here! Keep up the good work!

[@justinreddick2615]

I really like the idea of value going back up on some books. But I really don’t like the idea of it taking forever to get books back from CGC.Great video man. Keep killing it!!!

[@SIRCEO11]

I recently submitted at NYCC*24 and there already scheduled for grading, but let’s see how long they sit there for hopefully not too much longer lol.

[@cowbelltv4865]

Thx for this video. I am one of those people who like the slab but hate that the comics can’t go inside the books.

[@breakbeatz309]

Great info. The hate for grading companies baffles me. If you don’t like graded books, just don’t use them.

[@bestcore1214]

I've been waiting 7 years to submit. There comes a time when you just need to go for it!

[@Rhett-Christopher]

I wouldn't unless you want your books damaged or bent books in the inner Wells. And if they damage your books doesn't matter. They won't replace them or give you fair market value for those books that they damaged.

[@bestcore1214]

@Rhett-Christopher it's ok, I wasn't planning on it..I'm all talk and no action when it comes to grading

[@hotzonecomics8941]

I took advantage of the 10/10 sale along with my tier discount

[@AnthonyLamarca-w4c]

I have a submission of vintage that was received 8/12/24. It’s gonna take as long as it’s gonna take. The part that kills me though is that I’ve lost out on some really nice trades because of the delay. That’s how it is though. There will always be another book that comes around.

[@echoraider2467]

Just sent off a submission, will see how long it takes real-time. Will update you when I get em back👍

[@samaritanx]

The weird thing is that CGC ran that big sale in October and then laid off a large portion of employees. Logic would suggest that they should have kept those employees to handle the flood of incoming comics.

[@gregparks1785]

Good video and good information! I think too many books are getting graded these days anyway. There needs to be a correction, there’s going to be a ton of useless, unwanted slabs lying around in a few years.

[@leelewis5730]

I've never sent books into CGC or any other service. I have a small stack of books that I would like to have graded for my PC. But I want to have a professional clean and press them first and I don't even know where to start so ..........

[@BrysComics]

Ron from palm beach pressing in this comment section is great

[@JSSBrooklyn]

Thanks Bry - interesting video but agree with the insight on more times is more submissions so more market….maybe. We will see. Thanks for the information

[@nemogriffen]

Anything good, is worth waiting for. Hopefully the employees won't feel like they are more rushed than normal and end up grading lower to be on the safe side.

[@JimChurchSr-lu2pq]

Thanks for all the helpful tips

[@adamleitman8116]

I have not graded in awhile as i've been on a kick to buy some keys for the "big" auction im doing in my store. Dont wanna dip into the ol' p.c. yet

[@franciscomarquez3678]

Awesome video Bry, keep up the good work buddy.

[@SBAVoltronProdt]

I think if I submit soon I’m just going to go for a modern 9.8 prescreen for my more valuable PC books that way whatever I get back slabbed it’s in the grade I want.

[@nuctech99m]

Good video I haven't sent any books to be graded but I definitely purchased graded books maybe one day I'll send some of my PC books

[@saleens330]

Due to prices, wait times and their issues…why I will never submit my books. If I want one slabbed I’ll just buy it.

[@SonOfCrom-1932]

BRO! I am so stoked right now; just pulled the switch on one of your "Big Boy" books (look mommy, I'm a big boy now)! 😂 Can't wait to hold that beautiful book in my hands, Thank you again for having such Fair Prices! You're the best! The CGC return thing doesn't affect me as much because I just want to buy books where people already went through all the trouble of doing that work. I am not good at "Wait times", Anything over a week would stress this old guy the heck out! 😆 Loved the video though; I really enjoy learning about all this "New stuff" that we never even dreamed of back in the 70's. I for sure will keep commenting until you turn comments off; gotta love the chance at free Spidey Slabs! LOL PS - can you explain what the "you received points" email that buyers get please.

[@BrysComics]

Congrats on that one she’s a beauty! If you log in by clicking the rewards icon you can redeem points for a discount, 3% back I believe it is

[@SonOfCrom-1932]

@@BrysComics Cool! TY again! May buy some more later tonight. Depends on if my auction bids win or not LOL

[@eddyfeddystacks]

I sent in 50 books before COVID. Finally received them. They damaged a couple books sadly. 😅

[@JO-qt5fq]

Thanks for the great insight into grading

[@terrygillard1672]

thanks for sharing Bry.

[@pentakacle]

I haven't submitted any books in a couple years. I'm considering submitting more soon.

[@zachbrobst9473]

The only books ive been sending out lately have been for signature series. Starting to think its time for a good old fashioned blue label 25 book submission

[@kush2.061]

another helpful video thanks bry!!!!

[@CedRed]

I have a New Mutants 98 newsstand and I have been contemplating getting it graded.

[@Hupspring]

I'm sending a few in to get graded for my personal collection so I don't mind the wait so much.

[@peterkalos6271]

Yea times have definitely got longer. I submitted in person at Baltimore comic con in early September. My books didn’t even get logged til mid October and they came like a week ago. Where as my last submission had like a 3 week turnover no fast track. Still have a JSC signature series “scheduled to be graded” for like 2 months.

[@stormshadowctf]

Yup...my vintage is taking FOREVER

[@JekLongwalker]

Good stuff. Maybe one day I’ll actually submit to CGC. 😂

[@drbones77]

I have a good stack of books I want to submit for grading. This just makes me want to wait for PSA to start their comic grading services. Especially if a price increase will be in the future.

[@nicholaspreston4417]

I’ve had my four vintage books gone since June. Still no communication and when I’ll get those back.

[@RobRVA]

It's one scandal after another after another at CGC and people are sick of it.

[@MichaelHeavilon-x7i]

CGC’s 10/10 promotion increased the number of books submitted. I sent 10 orders of 25 and saved $1,000 from the promotion.

[@shawnsturgis4553]

Just sent some for the first time, hope it doesn’t take too long😂

[@tatobroth]

all of the JSA books being sent in now contributed. However, I don't want to wait 6 months to get my books back ever again. Its so super frustrating so I'm just not submitting anymore right now. I'll prob hold back and give JSA a shot (but I'm sure they'll be crushed too.)

[@efexlegend9682]

I got 5 waiting to send off now for my personal collection. Wait time doesn’t really bother me

[@rickt5255]

Signatures are taking forever now days but I blame the signers and not CGC. Been waiting 6 months for my Jeremy Renner signing.

[@enchman008]

Bry is always helpful

[@Record_store_kids]

Another great video with awesome information 🔥👍🏽

[@philipmikulas5217]

Great tips, killing it bro

[@linalleybri]

I keep thinking that as soon as I submit a book they will come out with new slabs so i don't send anything in but they never come out with a new slab design. It is like I'm stuck in a Microsoft excel circular reference error.

[@jd_warlock_]

I collect raw books, but see the value in grading certain books.

[@hieinh]

Yeah some of the hype movie books are definitely worth paying $100 for a quick flip

[@brucecree9170]

CGC grew too quickly thinking the comic book would never end. Now, with interesting in the hobby waning, plus all the scandals (banana-gate, beholder-gate, etc) there have got to be far fewer submissions and, a need to cut costs. All those folks who are comic enthusiasts who moved to Sarasota to work the grading floor are out of jobs. Say what one will about CGC but I feel for those graders who got to live the dream for a little while and are now back to working the check out stand at Walmart.

[@Nyarlahotep]

I sent in 6 books about 2 months ago, still waiting for 3 of them 😖

[@rabbitquesada5837]

I’ve had that same issue and had more than a few come back messed up . I quit messing with them as a company

[@Nyarlahotep]

@rabbitquesada5837 One of my signed, absolutely pristine books came back a 9.2 and the graders notes didn't even match 🤬

[@Forza_Juventus_48]

Great video Bry!

[@andrelazaro4563]

Just gotta submit and forget about it lol

[@rederik99]

The whole process makes me nervous, lol

[@scottwilliams5100]

I see what your saying about fewer people sending

[@wolfblitz6530]

Thanks for the info.

[@heckatron2586]

Interesting. Wonder if the buyers market means more people submit?

[@shytweedabone2663]

Great info!

[@Toeasy1234-r4x]

I'll still submit, even with the turn around times, is what it is 🤷‍♂️

[@dandelatorre1870]

With all the problems with CGC I lost trust in this company and have sent nothing to BlackStone Grading aka CGC. I went to a much smaller company called EGS. I know, I know, there’s no resale market for EGS but I trust this company and I’m strictly a collector and never sell my comics.

[@ronaldbourgeois1255]

very helpful info.

[@joshblankenship9665]

I'm still waiting on 2 of my books

[@rickvanhoose3312]

Always Love your videos

[@CosmicRobb]

Agreed. On all levels

[@Jaylog1000]

Been Collecting snice the late 80's In I still haven't sent any Comics to CGC. I have alot of Early AMS that I would love to send to CGC. I'm afraid if I do I might sell them. I don't want to sell none of my Spider-Man. But everything else I don't care about at all....

[@matondo0]

Great advice

[@austmick]

Thx!

[@collectplayandenjoy2800]

If grading a book cost about $25 you would then have to also include about $15 for cleaning and pressing and another $20 for shipping, how is that worth the grading fee if the book is only worth $50?

[@adrvar01]

It's about more money for them. Im not a reseller. Why would I spend an extra 15 just to get them 1 or 2 weeks faster. Now 3 to 4 months faster, that might change my mind.

[@albertocardenas6565]

I believe the slab demand decreased, which only certain books will demand for slabbed and value in price.

[@albertocardenas6565]

Not everything needs to be slabbed.

[@15soundwave]

I’ve got submissions stuff ready for after GalaxyCon Columbus. Please don’t increase prices until after that!!

[@louben987]

I'm still not convinced CGC is worth it anymore.

[@pulp420]

I’m so glad that I don’t submit comics anymore.

[@garywoods3196]

CGC can get rough at times too

[@DarrenCarman]

Great video

[@nicholaspreston4417]

Yes

[@joelb1]

This take makes me trust you less - to be honest.

[@waynet463]

where's my books CGC?

[@GymLeaderRay]

Nice video

[@Rhett-Christopher]

I'm boycotting cgc. Seven moderns. I got back in early September - All had the bends - All graded at 9.8. Three books had dimpled spine on the cover from the bend. Two out of those three books had color breaking spine tick where the spine dimple was. All graded at 9.8. They ruined two out of seven books for sure. I cannot sell those books at a 9.8 with that color breaking spine tick on the cover. And I took detailed pictures of the books before and they did not have a spine tick otherwise I would not have sent them in. And CGC won't do a darn thing about it. They won't replace the books that they damage with the same book at the same grade nor will they give me the fair market value for the book graded at a 9.8. It's a bad look for CGC.

[@RBaker-s2k]

I have had the same problem, you are not alone!

[@BrysComics]

It’s crazy how they can just deny that…

[@Rhett-Christopher]

​@@BrysComics why don't you talk about it on your channel?

[@DavidS-b8f]

Sorry I don't remember unsubscribing to your channel sorry about that I love your channel

[@leveragecomics5067]

I thought it was due to people getting laid off

[@jeffstanley6013]

The layoffs were far too recent to have caused an 81-day delay in the Vintage tier. I think it's more likely that they got inundated with Vintage submissions when they did their sale on Vintage over the summer ($30/book, min 15 books).

[@Dragomo-David]

I think you work for CGC 😂I don’t send book to CGC for sell I’ve been following you since you started the show, but I don’t agree with you it gonna back up so bad that they’re gonna keep making it longer and longer.

[@everydaychallenges2282]

Not a fan of grading any more

[@juanayon9713]

Seems like a good thing.

[@bookemdano]

I think a big part of the turn around times is the layoffs at CGC.