Longest range yet in our Mini Electric Cooper SE 170 miles! (273km)

[@elbowsout6301]

Wow great video. I have been eyeballing this car for my next one the low range has me worried but this is great. Thanks for doing this!

[@EVPuzzle]

You're very welcome. Remember this shows the potential not the norm

[@NaturMehr]

Well done👍 Your video let me be even more excited about receiving my Cooper SE which I ordered last week. Thanks and greetings from Germany, Bernd 👋🙂

[@EVPuzzle]

Welcome to the channel and I'm glad I've helped fill the gap waiting for your Mini 👍

[@kalak211]

heya, congrats for your order ! When are you going to be delivered ? I ordered back in August and they told me Feb '22. Well worth the wait though, I think :)

[@NaturMehr]

@@kalak211 Well, I was told sometime in Jan... Let's see! Cheers, Bernd 👋🙂

[@kalak211]

@@NaturMehr totally unfair 😂 Or maybe it is because of some option I ordered. Back in July they could not order the Harman Kardon sound system. Maybe a tiny chip in there forces me to wait more .. Cheers

[@NaturMehr]

@@kalak211 Well, let's see once mine 'll be delivered finally 😉

[@colinwilkinson2811]

Great video Nigel, this will give me confidence to do a 100 miles on a charge in my mini se. I must give the trip computer a try and zero the miles/kW as I must be on an average since I got the car. I wonder why you did not try the Green + mode, I know you switched of the aircon off but there might be other battery savings to be had. Looking forward to your next video.

[@nowkent]

Wow, this is so cool! Way to go!

[@paulo3564]

Fantastic City car.

[@EVPuzzle]

Great in the countryside too, great anywhere to be honest so comfortable

[@johntisbury]

Thanks Nigel, you did go quiet when you hit 0 miles left! :-) Interesting experiment which I know you love to do.

[@EVPuzzle]

I guess the camera doesn't lie. Think I was watching the gauge more that the road 🤣

[@TheJane73]

Nice real world range experiment 👍

[@EVPuzzle]

Real world for Norfolk perhaps, definitely not for those who love motorways

[@Gonza1000]

Nice fun video. I can also just get 170 miles out of my 33kWh battery in my i3. I have never driven it below 3% though. I am not THAT brave :)

[@EVPuzzle]

Thanks and glad I'm not the only one seeing great range from these smaller battery cars.

[@sergigorchs7329]

At the end of the video it was like starring myself in front of a mirror, Never gone below 20 % in my Mii. I should try it ;-)

[@paulclapton7803]

Thanks nigel for the video 😀 I think BMW don't want you to know the real range of the car ,so people don't run out of power on the road giving them bad publicity 😉. Enjoy all your vid's

[@EVPuzzle]

Sounds about right. One day I'll invest in a portable generator(battery of course) so I can run it out completely and see what's real and what's not bit regardless, I'm happy seeing 170 miles. Won't be doing that again for a while

[@Christopher-sj2sc]

Wow your videos are brilliant, can't believe I've only just discovered. Now duly subscribed!!!!! I wonder if you'd used green plus and the best possible route you'd have got 200 miles???

[@EVPuzzle]

Very kind mate thank you. KZbin hides me away sadly and only shows my channel to a limited number of people. Their algorithms limit channel growth for no reason then explode for no reason too. Glad you found the channel eventually. More Mini adventures ahead 👍

[@wendellb.6798]

Great info! We are looking at getting the Mini Electric for our daughter but the 114 mile est. EPA advertised range concerns me. Even though this is sort of a "hypermile" trip because of the low speeds (I'll look through your previous videos to find a highway/freeway trip) that's great that it went 170 miles on a single charge!

[@EVPuzzle]

Our local area is slower traffic mostly so we average 5.1 miles per kwh. Theres a faster trip I've filmed but not edited on its way. Efficiency more like 4.4 miles per kwh so 130 mile range

[@wendellb.6798]

@@EVPuzzle I still think that the Mini EV would be a great car for my daughter. We live in Southern California so everything is freeway driving (ugh) but she really doesn't go anywhere but college (38 miles from home) so this would work great.

[@EVPuzzle]

Warmer climate, you'll get excellent efficiency although Aircon saps it a bit. Get the sunroof version and turn AC off 😂

[@MrAmtrak207]

That EPA estimate, like the one for my 2010 Cooper S, is mostly worthless. It assumes everyone uses full heat/AC and everyone hits 70 MPH on an expressway. The only time I got 114 miles on a charge was when it was -15 Fahrenheit. In the deep freeze through last winter he would only go around 95 miles on a charge due to the cold weather. On a long trip last October on an expressway, I averaged 2.8 miles/kWh. That was in colder temperatures, only slightly over freezing. I got the sense that this type of use is not what the car is intended to do. Now that things are above around 45 Fahrenheit, I am back to averaging 4.5-5.2 miles per kWh, which calculates to a range of 130 to 150 miles. That's a mix of downtown and 55-MPH territory. The car's onboard computer, referred to here as the Guess-O-Meter (love the term), is set up to be very conservative. The same applies to the battery; there is a cushion of 3.7 kWh built in, which will make it appear that the battery still fully charges, even after a few years of use. Green+ shuts down the air con and leaves the cabin fan on its lowest setting. It also cuts out the seat heating. I wonder why you used the lower regen setting; that reduces the amount of power you are recharging into the battery while/whilst decelerating. If you limit the car's speed, the range extends by a substantial amount. I am trying to avoid deep-discharging my batteries; done routinely this will damage them. I've been down to four miles twice now; you will notice the accelerating power on the power/brake meter will be limited during deep discharge. Over the next few weeks I would like to completely avoid high-speed driving and really see what this car can do. This should be an interesting weekend.

[@johnv9854]

I saw another channel squeak out 25 miles more once it hit 0 miles of range. but the last 10-12 miles were at 25mph or slower.....

[@EVPuzzle]

Might depend on the efficiency you got previously as to how much is left below zero, I don't think its an apple's for apples comparison

[@johnv9854]

@@EVPuzzle it was a hyper mile test.. trying to see what the limits were.

[@EVPuzzle]

Oh OK, that's really good to know, I've only seen the Carwow one where they only sort of show you what happens. As soon as I get a bigger portable battery generator I'm going to do this again and go until it stops. They drove normally then when it was low, hypermiled. So long as the numbers add up, Mile per kwh x kwhs usable = miles driven. Any more must be using reserve kwhs

[@johnv9854]

@@EVPuzzle I have a car on order that has just hit the port. So I’ve been trying to gather all the info I can as to what to expect. I live 120 miles from the beach and would love to be able to get there without stopping half way.. the drive is 50/50 highway and country roads.. this video makes me think it’s possible. I can charge in town without issue…

[@EVPuzzle]

120 is realistic in decent weather going steady but you'll be low for sure. Do a splash and dash on your first attempt just to be safe?

[@jeffreycooper8408]

You don't see an abbey for years, and then two come along at once !!

[@EVPuzzle]

Very religious place Norfolk

[@enyaq_gorm]

Very impressive economy. I don't need to faff about with the regen levels as my new Enyaq has auto regen so it reads the road ahead and lets the car coast if the road is clear of junctions and traffic.

[@EVPuzzle]

Ah Enyak, now there's a car I'm curious about. Attractive, better than VW and a nice looking interior. £50k though for top. Spec seems a bit rich. I need to go and look in more detail. What spec have you got and how are you finding it comfort, drivability, range, efficiency?

[@theotherstevesteve]

I'd be interested to know how the Enyaq regen works in practice. It sounds like you're saying if you were driving down a section of road and there happens to be a junction nearby and you lift off it hammers on full regen and yet a few hundred yards down the same road away from the junction and you lift off it wont apply regen at all. Sounds terrifying, unless the engineers dialed out the variability by doing very little regen at all.

[@EVPuzzle]

Kona auto regen was excellent, it braked when it needed to otherwise kept lower regen mode

[@enyaq_gorm]

@@theotherstevesteve not like that at all, if you're approaching a roundabout or a t junction or a speed limit then ut recognises that, it tells you to lift off the power and it coasts yp to the junction with the right amount of regen. It's brilliant

[@enyaq_gorm]

@@EVPuzzle I've got a 60 in lounge spec, added 120 kW charging, heat pump, autopilot, HUD, etc and it was £37k. Very pleased with it. Much better quality than my model 3 was

[@stvnbln1964]

Impressive results

[@pcfarrar]

Nigel are you going to test one of the new Mini Electric LCI models? Some owners who have upgraded from the original claim there are differences in performance and efficiency.

[@EVPuzzle]

Yes I'll test drive the new one soon I hope but rest assured the changes are cosmetic. 99% sure

[@AllElectricLiving]

You looked like you had range anxiety towards the end Nigel

[@EVPuzzle]

First comment. Awesome especially so early 👍 Driving to zero for the first IS a little tense with anticipation. I need an obd reader to check what's really left but it's manufacturer of course. I drove a good 15 miles when I could've been home charging just to test it out

[@js-hl5hv]

So the GOM doesn't even get 0 correct :) It is the only thing I really don't like about my SE. It is basically useless and just contributes to range anxiety for those who can't calculate the real range. I have never gone down to 1% - I think my best is about 5%. On that day I had a (calculated) range of 270km on the nose (168 miles). Pipped me by two miles :)

[@EVPuzzle]

Bet if you'd have driven those 2 miles it would be turned into 4. Its the not knowing that's annoying with the GOM. I reported to to my dealer yesterday telling him its the worst thing about the car setting off almost every trip witouth enough range but then magically having enough. It's too fake and contrived and could lead to people presuming there's another 10 miles in reserve. There may not be. But it's still a blooming good car and has a decent range when you want the range

[@uktechie8013]

You need a friend with Ionic 5 to save you if you do the ultimate test and run out but I wouldn’t that was good enough

[@greghao]

How much do you get from the max regen vs low regen? Or do you not worry about it at all and just look at mile per kw * battery size?

[@nigelweir3852]

You did have to dump the wife , hope my doesn’t dump me from her mini haha, great car

[@whocares264]

170 miles you must be missing that kona.

[@EVPuzzle]

Bought a soul for the longer trips , Mini is great around Norfolk and to be honest charging isn't a hassle once you slow down and enjoy the ride

[@whocares264]

@@EVPuzzle good choice, range is everything ....saves you time money and hassle, it is also future proof and more reliable.... the long warranty slows depreciation .

[@brianrussell6988]

Did you eventually top back up to 100% before using the car again? If so how many KWh did it take? Brian

[@EVPuzzle]

No, I topped up and used the car over the week all from solar. Typically it takes 20% more energy to refill

[@potatochobit]

when you go over 110 miles dont you get scared it will suddenly plummet to zero?

[@EVPuzzle]

No,there's lots of BMS software checking it's state continuously. The miles left and percentage of battery are reliable (at the lower end) at this point . First time you do it might feel nervy but you build trust . I now think nothing of it

[@blobstrom]

If you really wanted to flatten the battery leave it switched on and put the car in de-mist mode 😁

[@EVPuzzle]

Thought if that but the SOC will go to zero but miles travelled wouldn't increase. No measure of energy used after zero

[@blobstrom]

@@EVPuzzle I was thinking if you completely flattened the battery then you could see on the Zappi how many kWh it would take to fully charge it, therefore the usable amount your mini will allow, but then saying that if you did that after your journey then of course you could see how much you used.

[@EVPuzzle]

Charge losses complicate that by up to 20% but yes I see what you mean

[@erolcoulson9194]

Zero miles I know your panicking, thats why you're quiet 😂

[@EricOnYouTube]

What is the official range of this car?

[@EVPuzzle]

144wltp

[@martinhorvath181]

What are these wheels and tyres please?

[@EVPuzzle]

MSW72 from Memory. Made by oz running on Dunlop. Sport maxx

[@martinhorvath181]

@@EVPuzzle thank you very much, these are not the lightest, even not the most aerodynamic wheels, have you had 17 or 18 inch? Could you let me know how does it compare to the original electric power wheels, I would expect with these ones to have even better range.

[@EVPuzzle]

Didn't notice any difference 17"

[@martinhorvath181]

@@EVPuzzle Is the handling better on Dunlop comparing to the stock Hankook or whatever it was?

[@martinhorvath181]

@@EVPuzzle thank you for answer, amazing, would expect a difference...

[@cadriver2570]

So you drove 170 miles and the car still estimated 129 miles from a 100% charge? lol

[@richardh6756]

Your mini e can you get a wheelchair in the boot with the seats down. I was going for a Corsa e not now. when I saw on KZbin a Corsa e go up in flames under the bonnet. Mini is in a different class.