Our $16,000 RV Solar Gear -- TESTED IN THE REAL WORLD!

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Long Long Honeymoon

Long Long Honeymoon

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@mgysgtk8835
@mgysgtk8835 2 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks
@rickrichardson5329
@rickrichardson5329 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video it answered alot of questions.
@glennguaraldi1047
@glennguaraldi1047 Жыл бұрын
Great video! We have an Airstream, we have solar, and yes, it is our boat! 760 watts on the roof, 3000 watt inverter, and 4 Battle Born batteries tied into the outlets has made our travels so much less stressful.
@88corinutza
@88corinutza 2 жыл бұрын
im currently doing same but with 8 BB's and 3400 watts solar nice video
@danielames3937
@danielames3937 3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids!
@Northfordtrailcam
@Northfordtrailcam 2 жыл бұрын
I installed 200w rooftop solar and 200ah lithium batteries last season. We spent 6 days under heavy tree cover and rain in Smokey Mountain National Park...getting a max of 35w of solar during peak hours. We ran our furnace a couple of nights and kept our accessories charged. On day 6, we still had 60% of battery capacity remaining. It was back up to full power before we reached our next destination. We didn't use the generator at all, the entire 30 day trip.
@JohnnyLawBMC
@JohnnyLawBMC Жыл бұрын
This why we love you guys. Besides your travel videos and both of you, we love your honest, fair approach to the information you are providing Very nice job. I am a lithium battery person, RV and Boats, and this video will help so many people get a well rounded thought process if they are considering lithium or not. Lithium is great for some people and is definitely not needed for others. Tell me the whole story and we can discuss it lithium is for you. This is still a very nice video Brudda
@97bophack
@97bophack 3 жыл бұрын
Getting ours installed in March and can’t wait.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
You will love it!
@TheDryCampers
@TheDryCampers 3 жыл бұрын
We look forward to it, Bryan!
@Xboomer1
@Xboomer1 3 жыл бұрын
Solar system 16,000 bucks... Bean Burritos.... in an RV.... PRICELESS....
@z50king29
@z50king29 2 жыл бұрын
You should get a 12v fridge... Ours is huge and draws about 36 watts when running
@PJ-gp2hj
@PJ-gp2hj 3 жыл бұрын
Good report. Thanks.
@jellybean7253
@jellybean7253 3 жыл бұрын
I installed the same system in my Arctic Fox 1150 truck camper, but, I went with four Merlin FX48L 220 Watt Flexible Solar Panels. The flexible panels by Merlin are super durable and so much lighter than glass panels. I started with only two panels, but, with the ever inconsistent sunlight I could never stay charged up without running my generator several hours a day. So, now I have 880 Watts of solar potential on my roof. I also carry a 200 Watt portable panel that I can follow the sun with. I will probably add two more batteries this year and that will be spectacular for boondocking. Happy Trails
@krak0n0s
@krak0n0s 3 жыл бұрын
at 17:45 , i see a real highlight of the video when the T@B Trailer with a Jeep zooms buy.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
ha, is that you? that was in Death Valley NP...
@danantes5223
@danantes5223 2 жыл бұрын
Your video is very well done. Are the renogy panel eclipse? If they are why did you pick them? Keep up the great videos
@ultramagapimpernel7992
@ultramagapimpernel7992 3 жыл бұрын
Liked the video, quite informative. Try going to POWER BASTARDS for high output alternators for diesel engines. Found a 300 amp model for my diesel Grand Cherokee. Original is 180. Best place to add weight on your rig is actually amidships, directly over your fresh water tank, over the axle, fwd justified slightly.
@rsuminsby
@rsuminsby 3 жыл бұрын
That color display is pretty sexy. And fortunately, I do have an Electrical Engineering degree! :-)
@camperjack2620
@camperjack2620 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine Ronnie could pick out and install solar panels as window awnings, the old style that fold down over the windows when you travel, then are held up with bracket arms when you set up. If they had decorator side edges on them, maybe they could be made to look attractive and retro. They could face east in the morning and west in the evening on each side of the trailer, assuming your were parked north south- and the tilt would work better.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea!
@robertschulke1596
@robertschulke1596 3 жыл бұрын
$16,000 kind of leaves us in shock. How much of your install was labor?
@joellofton7553
@joellofton7553 3 жыл бұрын
Super clean install for the battle born system!
@edrodrigues3333
@edrodrigues3333 2 жыл бұрын
Two Interstate SRM-24 81 AH batteries. Two Renogy 100w solar suitcases. A Honda 2200i generator. For $1,800 rain or shine I’ve got all I need for my Lance 2185.
@brenchomsky3515
@brenchomsky3515 3 жыл бұрын
What powers your fridge ?
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Propane or AC.
@leeknudson91
@leeknudson91 3 жыл бұрын
You need 300 watt panels 2 more batterys
@ozarkliving7263
@ozarkliving7263 3 жыл бұрын
Do u have a schematic of your new upgraded system?
@davidwaddell4550
@davidwaddell4550 3 жыл бұрын
You need a DC to DC charger to limit the current from your alternator. Depending on the output of your alternator you should limit the charge to your batteries to 40 or 60 amps. That will keep you from over heating and burning up your alternator.
@airstreamnutsandbolts
@airstreamnutsandbolts 3 жыл бұрын
They have one. I installed a 40A Renogy DC/DC Charger but poor old Seemore’s alternator just is on its last leg.
@projet2907
@projet2907 3 жыл бұрын
@@airstreamnutsandbolts I was sure you had put it in, I don't know why it was not mentioned, it is a very good addition.
@ozarkliving7263
@ozarkliving7263 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, propane generator looking better and better…. Love that color controller and I’ll be adding it to our 2022 FC 23CB Bunk
@davervatx8814
@davervatx8814 3 жыл бұрын
Sean mentioned how sometimes it is difficult to get a full blast of sun on the solar panels because of shade, how the trailer is parked, etc.....question - is there such as thing as a roof solar panel solution on some type of articulating, motorized arms that can be set to automatically find the sun? In other words, once the trailer is parked, the solar panels sense where the sun is and automatically adjust themselves to the best angle throughout the day?
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen tilting & articulating panels, but I'm not sure about the automatic part. I agree this would be a HUGE upgrade. The ideal scenario would be panels that "awake" in the AM and follow the sun all day to maximize efficiency.
@GaryIman
@GaryIman Ай бұрын
Did you all take advantage of the Federal Solar Tax Credit?
@redfir22
@redfir22 3 жыл бұрын
I chose to not go with roof mounted solar due to expense and when parked in the shade to be able to place portable solar panels in the sun. The downside is inconvenience, no solar gain while driving and theft potential. I installed 4 Battleborn batteries, an 80 amp Progressive Dynamics LiFePO4 charger, a Go Power GP-ISW1500 inverter and have (3) Renogy 200 watt portable suitcase solar panels for a total cost of ~$6000. When I park my 5th Wheel, I run a 30 amp cable from the inverter to the RV shore power connection which powers all my 120 vac receptacles in the RV and position the solar panels for maximum solar gain (solar panels on top of RV are less efficient due to poor sun angle). The 1500 watt inverter will power anything except the Air Conditioners. If I want to run one or both A/C units I do have an onboard 5.5KW Onan generator (seldom used). 90% of the time we Boondock or dry camp in Forest Service campgrounds. We are very happy with this setup, it not only powers the RV, but works great for keeping our electric bicycles charged (the inverter easily charges both bikes in 3 hours).
@ib516
@ib516 3 жыл бұрын
That serpentine belt needs to be replaced @ 5:41 (if the footage is current (
@ptcclatlptcclatl1683
@ptcclatlptcclatl1683 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have your RV plugged into shore power when you’re not using it?
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
We do.
@maxrr2609
@maxrr2609 3 жыл бұрын
As always well done!
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@rogerstillwater6800
@rogerstillwater6800 3 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual you two
@jimg2894
@jimg2894 3 жыл бұрын
I've got the same truck. I just installed an automatic battery isolator switch to protect my starter batteries while charging the house batteries in the Airstream. Works great. Redarc SSBI12.
@paulbram2
@paulbram2 3 жыл бұрын
Trying to figure out how you get that "DC Power" on your display. I have a Cerbo GX with the touch display, and it looks identical to yours, but it doesn't specifically call out the DC power loads. Do you have a separate device to monitor that? Or does your Mulitplus just do that? Maybe there's a setting on mine I need to tweak?
@paulbram2
@paulbram2 3 жыл бұрын
Nevermind, I figured it out! I had to go into settings and flip on the "Has DC Power" toggle.
@openskies4245
@openskies4245 3 жыл бұрын
We have 600 watt panels on roof and installed them so they can lift to angle, but it wouldn't be practical if moving often. We also have 4 batteries (built a cabinet beside the bed for them (hubby uses it as a step into the bed) and a 3500 watt inverter under the bed. Still, we watch the usage and may need more panels when we become more than weekend warriors.
@PeeWeeHenson
@PeeWeeHenson 3 жыл бұрын
LET ME GET THIS RIGHT, I HOPE. INSTALLING LITHIUM BATTERIES AND AN INVERTER WILL NEGATE THE NEED FOR SHORE POWER TO RUN THE ELECTRICAL OUTLETS, MICROWAVE, A/C ? HOW LONG WILL THE BATTERIES LAST BEFORE THEY NEED A CHARGE UP?
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
The batteries are 100 Amp hour batteries and we have four - so we have 400 Amp hours of electricity. We can use about 95% of that power, so let's call it 380 Amp hours is actually accessible before needing a recharge. The batts are constantly recharged by sunlight, but the rate of recharge is between 100 and 600 Watts.
@rfleming7883
@rfleming7883 3 жыл бұрын
Well, what can I say? A finely detailed explanation of a full-on lithium system. This is of amazing help to those considering lithium. Thanks!
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your kind words.
@machfive916
@machfive916 3 жыл бұрын
I think "lifestyle choice" is the perfect description. For Loloho's style of camping, it seems like a perfect fit. Thank you for showing the good and "bad" aspects.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a lot of money... in theory it will save some money over time (fewer campground fees, gasoline, etc) but it's hard to justify purely on that basis. It is a great enhancement to RV travel though. We may be in New Orleans soon. If so, we'll give you a shout!
@machfive916
@machfive916 3 жыл бұрын
@@LongLongHoneymoon That sounds awesome!!!
@hopekegebein1311
@hopekegebein1311 3 жыл бұрын
My husband thinks he’s got to buy a 1600.00 charger for these batteries and we will be stationary most the time! Is that correct?
@danterry6328
@danterry6328 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always good information.
@airstreamnutsandbolts
@airstreamnutsandbolts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys!
@EverythingRVbyPat
@EverythingRVbyPat 3 жыл бұрын
Do you work on other brands or are you exclusive to Airstream? Just curious. Pat
@bevvaughn7898
@bevvaughn7898 3 жыл бұрын
Like you have 6.0 power stroke Ford. One of the options that came on my truck was 2 alternators. Seems to be factory and is speculated it might be associated with a ambulance option?? Just FYI for more power.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! I did not realize that was an option. Will be installing the 370 Amp Mechman on Wednesday. Will let you know how it goes!
@sparkenwolf7683
@sparkenwolf7683 3 жыл бұрын
@@LongLongHoneymoon Usually the 2nd alternator is the "snow plow" option
@lorilust6150
@lorilust6150 3 жыл бұрын
We feel that alternator pain. We had to upgrade ours. Game changer. Yes we have solar and love it!! Hardly use the generator anymore.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we are doing the alternator Wednesday! I hope this solves our issues. Cheers!
@SteveH98264
@SteveH98264 3 жыл бұрын
@@LongLongHoneymoon You still need the ability to isolate your truck from the trailer at the flick of a switch.
@chefnic71
@chefnic71 3 жыл бұрын
watch costco for lion energy barriers for 2 of 1300 ish
@kennethwers
@kennethwers 3 жыл бұрын
If you can DIY and order the cell direct you can build a couple 200 amp Lifepo4 batteries for about $1600
@chefnic71
@chefnic71 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethwers so buy for 1300 or buld for 1600 cheapest to buy them
@Hilmi12
@Hilmi12 3 жыл бұрын
I installed a 150 Watts with 100 Ah Gel battery on my off-roader camper, all my lights are low power LED. This system runs my fridge and lights non stop even in winter. However I do have a tilt open roof that I can point to the sun for optimal efficiency. I also make sure to wash the solar panel with window cleaner every once in a while. Also I opted to go without air-conditioning, I just pick cooler temperature camp sites so I don't have to worry about heat. Don't even bring my generator with me any more
@Yukonjackman1
@Yukonjackman1 3 жыл бұрын
I have solar, a simple system wife and I do fine with it, some times a remote startup generator is a good thing lol for ac
@herb7877
@herb7877 3 жыл бұрын
Good presentation of your system. I too have told people that our RV is my golf, boat or antique car. 4+ years ago I "studied" solar for too long. I was getting paralysis by analysis ; so i jumped in with a simple Renogy 100W panel & PWM I Bought some connectors and away I went. We do most of our camping in the Pacific N.W. in wooded areas. Panel's are not mounted. We are NOT full timers but are out every month 4-5 days at a time & a 2 month snowbird trip to AZ. We boondock about 75% of the time. I learned that if panels are not in direct sun they do little to no charging. So I "chase the sun". I bought a new Champion 2000 Inverter generator for backup and occasional 110V. Doubtful I've burned 5 gals of fuel in 3+ years. Last year I added a 2nd 100w panel (in parallel) + a 400W portable inverter. We use the inverter to charge the phones, iPads, cameras and laptops. The 2nd panel was a real game changer. Not only much quicker charge times but we often take off in the truck to explore or we take a hike and are gone 1/2 the day. We point each panel about 45 degrees apart from each other to allow for the moving sun. Works like a dream. All in for
@trippingtommy3691
@trippingtommy3691 3 жыл бұрын
I run solo, in a 20 foot jayco that I have highly modified for my tastes. I have 580 watts of solar panels and one battle born battery. I use a 1200 watt inverter and it's integrated using an automatic transfer switch. I built my ATS so it also takes care of the converter issue. I love my carefree system. I do nothing and it always works. Life with battle born battries is nice. One button system, super simple
@bobstellmaker3816
@bobstellmaker3816 3 жыл бұрын
Great article.I have 2 lithium batteries with 300ah. 480 watts of solar and a 2000 watt inverter, I still use the converter that came with my 5th wheel. I also have a 2000 watt generator for backup. he system works perfectly, I love it,would never go back to AGM batteries.I very rarely use my generator!
@brucebugbee6604
@brucebugbee6604 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Titan "solar generator" (3000 watt inverter, 4 kwh of battery capacity and two solar charge controllers) and installed it under the bed in our RV. I wired the AC output from the Titan into a transfer switch which utilizes shore power if it's available, otherwise the camper runs off of the Titan. I installed 8 x 100 watt solar panels on the roof and also have extra ground based panels if the roof is in the shade. If you do everything yourself, you can save a substantial amount of money. I've got about $5,500 into my setup (including the cost of the Titan) and I am very happy with the outcome. The nice thing is that if/when I sell my RV in the future, it is very easy to remove the Titan and use it at home or in my next rig. The only thing I can't do is monitor status without lifting the bed to see the meter on the front of the Titan since it doesn't have Bluetooth or external monitoring capability.
@garycook1205
@garycook1205 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic setup, not for everyone but if you are on the road frequently then it is a game changer. It was for us and sure opened up much more of the country to boondock or dry camp without losing all the amenities in your RV. Keep up the great work and excellent content.
@kristymichael
@kristymichael 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! It really does open up so many amazing campsites! Previously we would have skipped them, only been able to stay a day or two, or would've needed to run the generator for hours.
@richardbradfield7437
@richardbradfield7437 3 жыл бұрын
Could you ceramic the solar panels without and degradation in their efficiency? Would make them much easier to clean.
@timf6916
@timf6916 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, good information. It doesn’t matter what you spend, if you are satisfied that’s all it matters.
@michaelsullivan1262
@michaelsullivan1262 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautyful rig! The ceramic coating is the icing on the cake!
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, we are excited about it!
@vrbricksaunderson7384
@vrbricksaunderson7384 3 жыл бұрын
Generally we do not need AC using just DC meets our need - thus we run 200w solar on the roof of our International 25 CCD + additional 160w suitcase when shade is an issue. This then powers 2x100 lithium batteries . We also carry a Champion 3400 which we run on LP. Basically all we do is boondock, usually 14 days at a time throughout the Summer June-September. So far so good. Needless to say our system was no where near 16k - never the less I am happy for you and thank you for sharing your Lithium upgrade journey.
@kevinbarry71
@kevinbarry71 3 жыл бұрын
That truck was available with a factory option for two alternators. Even so, you are putting a much more significant strain on the electrical system of that truck than it was designed to handle. Particularly true of the wiring and the connectors going to the back
@Skaters713
@Skaters713 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent assessment, personal use/choice the best part of decision. We have 180W portable suitcase for Airstream Nest with AGM batteries. Boondock most often. Does solar meet our needs, as you say it depends. Out west more than enough generate about 60aH a day in summer (our electric needs are about 35ah per day we are frugal), in midwest or east with tree shade, about 25 aH/day-10 aH/day. Suitcase is advantage as it can be moved for sun angle and surface can be dusted off. We do like the quiet compared to generator. As for cost a suitcase is inexpensive option $750 for smaller trailer
@edwardbenedict4961
@edwardbenedict4961 3 жыл бұрын
I am working on wiring my tow vehicle to charge my trailer batteries. How did they wire it and what parts did they use? thanks for the info.
@Planedude60
@Planedude60 3 жыл бұрын
We've installed eight of the same Renogy Eclipse 100W panels (800W total) on top of our 18ft Coleman 1805RB trailer. At install time, the panels were for their size, spec'ed out as about the most efficient panels on the market. The 160-200W panels that many people say you should have installed are larger and don't always equate to the eight of the 100W panels, depending on the room on the roof. Roof real estate does drive how many panels, and also the wattage/size. Going larger, doesn't always equate to max wattage per square foot of available roof area. Small trailers like theirs and mine, limit the number AND size of the panels on the roof. Also, interior space limits number of LiFe batteries. We could really install only four 100AH batteries. Our 800W panel system almost always keeps the batteries 100% charged. We quite easily run our 11,000 BTU A/C on solar alone, without running down the batteries. Don't forget to install a high quality soft starter on the A/C system. We installed the same soft starter as LoLoHo's trailer. That soft starter allows us to start and run our A/C on a Champion 2000W generator. Generally, we carry only the 2000W generator to charge the batteries, and power our separate 20A service. In two years, we've only had to run the generator to charge the batteries twice because of a shaded camp spot. The five separate 20A outlets installed in our trailer are NOT powered through the 3000W Renogy inverter. So, when traveling in colder weather, we connect both our 30A power and separate 20A system to the 50/30/20A power pedestal. We installed the system when we dropped the trailer bottom to add insulation, insulate pipes and install fresh/grey/black tank heaters. When on shore power, we can connect to the 30A service, and the separate 20A service. We then run a space heater, hair dryer, etc on the 20A outlets without maxing out the 3000W inverter. Sure, you can get a larger inverter, but at 3-4 times the cost of the 3000W inverter, and those inverters are HUGE! When boon docking, we can also connect the 20A system to our generator for a total of approximately a total of 5000W. When on shore power, our small trailer easily stays warm (depending on outside temp) on the separate 20A space heater without running the propane furnace. Running both heaters significantly reduces the frequency of propane tank refills. Cheaper, and less wear on the 3000W inverter. Works for us. Sorry for the long comment. Honestly, Sean and Kristy have an elegant, superb, small and efficient system for the size and demands of their trailer.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great insights!
@hobie18m
@hobie18m 3 жыл бұрын
I have nearly the same rig up front (couch with storage drawer and two big exterior-access black battery boxes). Wondering why you modified the drawer instead of taking out the now-empty black battery boxes? I'm about to embark on a solar upgrade and will emulate this. I'm looking for ways to remove the black boxes and water-proof the access doors.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if memory serves we kept one black box and removed another. You could of course remove both boxes, but you will still have the doors on front of your trailer. So we have one side sealed shut, and the other box serves as an outside storage compartment. Really the location of that particular storage space is most easily accessed from the outside. It's so far back beneath the couch it would be hard to reach from inside the trailer. On the removed box side, we now have solar gear consuming that space. Currently we are keeping citronella candles and that sort of thing in the other outside storage box. We were forced to modify the couch drawer due to the size of the 4 lithium batts. Overall I have found this solution works pretty well. We have retained a decent amount of storage in the couch drawer. Hope this helps! I could possibly do a video about it in the future.
@Banagal
@Banagal 3 жыл бұрын
We usually use shore power though have 2 Battleborne batteries and 6 solar panels. We also have a Bluetti 2000 portable generator to be delivered soon w/it's own flexible solar panels designed to be portable. We have a generator for emergencies though have never used it.
@matthewwiemken7293
@matthewwiemken7293 3 жыл бұрын
replace ac and heater with mini split. seemed to work well for some
@k2mslskier
@k2mslskier 3 жыл бұрын
Good seeing you guys in Tucson at the Chevron.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, appreciate the shout out!
@samanthapowell5882
@samanthapowell5882 3 жыл бұрын
Get the new F150 hybrid!
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
It does look cool. I would love to get one, just a little unsure it can handle our trailer.
@samanthapowell5882
@samanthapowell5882 3 жыл бұрын
@@LongLongHoneymoon it can pull that and it would be perfect for you. And you will be first KZbinr to have one !
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I will take a close look. We really are due for a new truck (shhhh, don't tell SEEMORE). I would enjoy the greater maneuverability of the F150.
@michaellopour7409
@michaellopour7409 3 жыл бұрын
@@samanthapowell5882 will depend on actual payload. 7.2kwh generator is awesome though.
@roberthunter6927
@roberthunter6927 3 жыл бұрын
We had a home PV solar system [no batteries] . It was 5kW, and cost around AUS $5500. On neat rick was to use mini-inverters ganged to only 2 solar panels each. And with the panels mounted at different angles around the roof, we got solar all day long. Lithium batteries were absurdly expensive then. Now at only $1000 each they are better value. The government run, semi-privatised power company purchased our exports to the grid at 6 cents a unit [during the day we exported quite a lot] , but of course without batteries we had to import units from the grid for 24 cents a unit. And we had to pay a grid rental charge. Even so, our power bills dropped dramatically, and at least in summer, we had to pay nothing or about $30 dollars if our use was very high [air conditioning] or environmental conditions like clouds reduced our input from PV solar. In OZ we can know get a 6kW system [with batteries] for about $8000 [Oz, not Uncle Sam dollars]. With that we can go totally "off-grid" in our home. Our folding electric bikes with "fatty tyres" [good for on or off-road] are going well. And we can go a really long way using only about a quarter of a charge or less. [Over three hours on a bike is enough, because one's butt tends to get a bit tender, at least at our age].
@bobmccaslin2040
@bobmccaslin2040 3 жыл бұрын
Well done- you guys are always the GO TO source for great RV info! Blessings, Bob
@miked5728
@miked5728 3 жыл бұрын
How strong is the glass on the solar panels?? I ask because we've run into some wicked hail storms out west, in the SUMMER... We've had vehicle damage done by hail, so I wonder how well a solar panel would stand up to that...
@stevecolby6505
@stevecolby6505 3 жыл бұрын
A $16K turnkey RV solar system is one way to go, but if you are at all handy you can build a similar solar/battery/inverter system yourself for about 1/4 that price. The main way to save money is that LiFePO4 battery can be built from cells/BMS for about $500 for each 280 Amp hr battery instead of paying $1000 for a each pre-built 100 Amp hr battery. There are many KZbin videos on how to do this. However I do feel that Victron equipment, although pricey, is the best out there and is worth splurging on. Just my 2 cents....
@sued115
@sued115 3 жыл бұрын
***** Hi Sean & Christy, You may want to reconsider not getting that large alternator and install either a DC to DC charger or check to see if Seymour is capable of a dual alternator. DH has read where those large alternators has a tenacity of overheating. Just a thought. We have been AGM batteries and have used the DC to DC charger and have not had an issue at all. When we get to our CG it is fully charged (no solar yet). Please check the youtube video on "How to not blow up your alternator when charging lithium". It is by Victron Energy.*****
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sue, e will check it out!
@headdown1
@headdown1 3 жыл бұрын
Hello from the Mojave desert. I have been enjoying your videos for years! I have been full timing for 3 1/2 years with a 38 ft 5th wheel. I had Starlight Solar in Yuma install my solar setup. Total cost was $15,000 US. I have 4 Panasonic 325 watt panels on the roof for a total of 1300 watts, and 3 - 303 amp hour LifeBlue lithium iron phosphate batteries for a total of 909 amp hours of storage. I have a 2000 watt inverter/charger. By far my biggest power draw is my huge Samsung home 120v ac fridge with ice maker. It uses more than half of my daily power. But having a home - sized refrigerator that actually works well was worth the cost of the solar installation to me. I can of course also run the microwave, coffee maker, deep fryer, and toaster no problem. Oh and my electric mattress pad! Most of the time I use a Big Buddy propane space heater so I rarely have the power drain of a furnace fan running. I'm an astrophotographer, and spend 6 months of the year in Arizona and California, and 6 months in Quebec. I get as far from other people and lights as I can while still having internet. And next year when Starlink internet from SpaceX is up and running, my desert winter playground triples in size as high speed internet will be available everywhere. At this time of year, late December, I still have to run the generator for about 5 hours once a week. My panels don't tilt, as they are too big and would eventually get ripped off the roof by gusts. But by April, I will be able to meet not only all my power needs, but have enough left over to power another RV as well. I know because I did it two years ago. In Quebec I am surrounded on most sides by 80 foot tall pine trees, and only get about 5 of 6 hours of direct sun a day at best. By fall I get much less than that, and have to run the generator every few days. I couldn't be happier with the system. The batteries have lost zero capacity in the 3 years that I have had them. I don't usually take them below about 50%, simply because 1 tank of gas for my generator will take them from about 50% to full. When I am driving from Quebec to Arizona and back, I will run them lower if it is cloudy rather than drag out the generator before I have to. If I have no sun at all, I can still go about 3 days before having to use the generator. Most of the time from about early April until fall I rarely need to use the generator. And if I were not in heavy trees, I likely wouldn't need it at all from early spring to late fall.
@neidaheusinkvelt9346
@neidaheusinkvelt9346 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video explanation of how and why you upgraded your solar system. As a weekender with a Winnebago 10 VJ with no solar I have been toying with a cost benefit analysis of what upgrade is logical for my needs. The reality is I need a cooler temperature during the day for the veteran dogs left behind in the RV when I hike with the younger retriever plus I like it cooler during sleeping hours at night. Thanks for the info.
@timaz1066
@timaz1066 3 жыл бұрын
I will be there 1-16...fun times. You also need to put a charge limiter in so you don't burn up your new alternator. I just use my BMV-712 though my phone app. You can run any of your Victron equipment with your phone App. You really want AGM or lead acid batteries at float for 8 hours. I was just in QS with 700W but didn't get more then 350 at peak sun.
@airstreamnutsandbolts
@airstreamnutsandbolts 3 жыл бұрын
They have a Dc/Dc Charger. We think Seemore’s alternator is on its last leg.
@clydewilliams6574
@clydewilliams6574 3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video.
@timaz1066
@timaz1066 3 жыл бұрын
@@airstreamnutsandbolts that's good.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
We are currently in a campground with hookups... I'll resynch again after being at float for 8 hours...
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Clyde, hope you are well!
@enriquelaroche5370
@enriquelaroche5370 3 жыл бұрын
Invest in more panels. and adjustable mounts. I see room for at least 3 300 watt panels. 50% more panel with adjustable mounts gets you another 50% Yield. half the batteries and half the expense . You can get a device to limit demand on alternator. a Predator 3kw inverter generator costs less than one battery. Can top off your batteries during the day for silent nights.
@phonedude58
@phonedude58 3 жыл бұрын
You said during your video that a lot people go to Quartzsite for winter....my question is why? No power, no water, no sewer and desert. I understand going to the desert for a week or two...but for longer than that, not sure what there is to do. What do you do in the desert for weeks at a time? Just asking, thx. Perhaps could a talk on what you do in the desert.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
LOL that is a question my wife has been asking. Personally, I understand the basic appeal.... it's a huge desert region where you can just camp anywhere for free. But the town of Quartzsite isn't exactly Paris, France if you know what I mean.... Hmmm, maybe we will do a video about this topic. :)
@ericstevenson2474
@ericstevenson2474 3 жыл бұрын
We also enjoy the convenience of having lithium batteries and 3000 wt inverter that powers all your outlets. We have 300 amp hour Lithium battery and 400 wt solar panels. It is great turn on that inverter any time you want to use the microwave or brew a cup of coffee.
@cartersmith1654
@cartersmith1654 3 жыл бұрын
Very Nice system. I have a similar set up with 720 watts of panels on the roof and all the same batteries and other Victron components. My system was considerably less because I did a good deal of the work myself. I do have a background in electronics and I'm a member of my RV owners site, where I got some great advice. Note: Battleborn offers great discounts around Cyber Monday. I saved on many components at that time. After installing the panels on the roof and batteries, Multi Plus and Charger controller, under the couch in the Lance travel trailer, I had a professional connect it to the coach electrical system. Part of that process involved getting under the rig and drilling up into through the floor. Anyway, my total investment for the same system that you have is about $10,000. Money well spent - we love our system!
@golite7127
@golite7127 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned your truck needs a replacement alternator. What are you upgrading to? We have a new 2019 Ram 2500 and it has a 220 Amp alternator. We opted not to have the second one installed. Thoughts?
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
We are getting a Mechman 370-Amp. Installing this week and we will make a video!
@joecool509
@joecool509 3 жыл бұрын
Costco has lion energy batteries for 2 for 1400. Another great option.
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@waynehogue2499
@waynehogue2499 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean for a honest review of the good and bad of solar! Safe travels into 2021. When are you guys coming through Virginia?
@tsmofeire
@tsmofeire 3 жыл бұрын
We went with a slight variant of your Victron setup. 1200 watts on the roof and 3 Lithium batteries. After daylight and Overnight and breakfast we get down to about 65% battery life. System starts charging around 8 am and by around 11 am we are back to 100% . During the day (short of running the air conditioner and electric water heater) We have plenty of energy to run anything without concern. Note we have not run into cloudy days yet. We do have a backup generator but haven’t used it or shore power since we installed the system.
@johnelliott8971
@johnelliott8971 3 жыл бұрын
If you're going to use your truck alternator to charge the lithium batteries, a dc to dc charger will eliminate many problems.
@BearUkulele
@BearUkulele 3 жыл бұрын
Consider the Victron Energy Orion-Tr DC-DC Isolated Converter instead of (or in addition to) the larger alternator.
@royrobbins2214
@royrobbins2214 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY I have replaced my batteries in my motor home with 2 BattleBorns. Someone warned me that I may burn my alternator up.The first time I started my motor home, my Victron 712 was reading 139 amps to the battery. The lithium batteries will take ALL the power the alternator can put out and it did. Lithium batteries have little resistance, unlike lead acid. there are a few videos on KZbin to prove this point.
@royrobbins2214
@royrobbins2214 3 жыл бұрын
On my truck, I added a 12v - 48v / 32 amp in & 8 amps out, transformer which instead of running a #6 wire to the rear, I could use one 1/4 the size. In the trailer, I had to convert the power to 16v anyway so I just used a solar charge controller and programmed it to my lithium batteries. I limited my alternator output to 32 amps (12v) while running small wires and 24 amps (16) to my batteries. Try it Dennis, works great.
@dmeyer8937
@dmeyer8937 3 жыл бұрын
If you look closely at the setup you will see a Renogy 40 amp dc/dc charger. It is already in the system! I don't know why you need a 370 amp alternator when you will only be adding a 40 amp load.
@johnnylightning1491
@johnnylightning1491 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know how much of what you bought was for hardware and how much was for installation. Inquiring minds want to know. Keep the good stuff coming.
@ScubaSteveCanada
@ScubaSteveCanada 3 жыл бұрын
I have dual LiFEPO4 75AH batteries installed inside my Class B RV, 100 W panel on the roof, with an additional 200W suitcase (to point directly at the sun as it moves across the sky), plus an additional 100W suitcase solar panel. On multiple cloudy days, with minimal sun, I can idle my RV engine for about 30 mins to recharge my batteries. 99% of my system uses 12VDC. The only thing that uses AC is my battery charger for my electric bike and have a portable, 300W inverter for that. On travel days, the RV's alternator is more than enough to fully recharge my two batteries. For those Death Valley days, I have a built-in 4000W generator that can run the A/C or microwave (rarely use any of them). All fans are efficient ,12VDC. Furnace / water heater is propane (Truma Combi Eco-Plus) and uses minimal 12VDC power to run the blower fan. They also run via AC but need the noisy generator or shore power. Solar panels, 2 x LiFEPO4 batteries, solar controller upgrade, converter upgrade plus installation was roughly $3,000.00 (installation was done by myself). The purpose of the solar controller & converter upgrades was to have ones compatible for Lithium charging. Yes, you can use the standard ones but Lithium specific will charge the batteries in a manner specific to them, as opposed to lead acid ones.
@douglaspayne8065
@douglaspayne8065 3 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you just put new batteries where the acid based ones were
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
We were installing four instead of two, and the lithium prefers to be inside...
@daveroe8612
@daveroe8612 3 жыл бұрын
Being able to fire up the A/C or the furnace as you said 30 minutes before arrival would be amazing in a trailer! Motorhomes already enjoy that from running the onboard generator, but that uses up fuel. As always thanks for the great perspective and sharing it with the Lo Lo Ho Nation .
@ADefenestrator
@ADefenestrator 3 жыл бұрын
If you find the battery capacity meter continues to drift over time, you can go into the BMV app and lower the charge efficiency factor or raise the Peukert exponent. I think BB suggests 99% and 1.05 respectively, but I ended up dropping it to 98%. I haven't done a deep discharge test to be sure, though.
@sidneylandry1076
@sidneylandry1076 3 жыл бұрын
We installed solar last year in our 5th wheel. Almost the same as you have, we just added a 4th battle Born 100 ah battery. I decided to install a total of 4-210 watt solar panels. The Addition of the 4th battery was to give us more time. We have a residential refrigerator. I also installed a Renogy DC/DC Charger while traveling it’s a 60 amp. Where ever we stop our batteries are usually fully charged. We are usually good using all appliances except air conditioning fo about three days with partly cloudy sky’s. Now with the 4th battery we’ll see our duration at certain sun conditions.
@royalpools
@royalpools 3 жыл бұрын
Great video love all the solar info! hey i also love the drone footage. what drone would you recommend today? Do you have a drone video?
@michaelclausen5227
@michaelclausen5227 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your videos. They gave me great ideas and suggestions. Happy Holidays
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@jeffownbey6073
@jeffownbey6073 3 жыл бұрын
We have 190 watts on the roof and 300 watts that we can deploy on the ground. We boondocks camp at some races and it is nice to not have to start a generator unless we need air conditioning. Just need to get an investor and lithium batteries to be ready to boondocks more. The ground units are nice because you can tilt them towards the sun.
@bobhewlett3633
@bobhewlett3633 3 жыл бұрын
VERY informative video that was easy to understand. Thank you for sharing. Travel safe.
@AvengerRVAdventure
@AvengerRVAdventure 3 жыл бұрын
Wishing thinking for me. Maybe someday... Thanks for sharing! Steve
@AngelTorres-se9zf
@AngelTorres-se9zf 3 жыл бұрын
Hello LoLoHo, Have you guys looked into or have thought of possibly getting one of those new 12v refrigerator. I think with that new solar upgrade it would be a awesome addition to conserving fuel. Thank you for sharing, stay safe and happy camping.
@camperjack2620
@camperjack2620 3 жыл бұрын
How about a propane Air Conditioner?
@AlaninPHX
@AlaninPHX 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Thanks for the info. Hope you’re enjoying AZ! Safe travels.
@djohnson542
@djohnson542 3 жыл бұрын
Are you able to use the solar to charge batteries while driving down the road?
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@dmeyer8937
@dmeyer8937 3 жыл бұрын
Having this setup which will START and run your AC - you should be able to use a 2000 watt generator (1/2 the weight) when you need a generator instead of that 100 pound + unit you carry in the back of your truck. Just set the maximum input current from the generator to be around 13 -15 amps. When your ac starts the inverter will assist with the start and the smaller generator should be able to keep up with the load after start and have some extra for battery charging. Maybe another video on this? All those generators you tested that wouldn't start your AC probably would now with the help of your new inverter.
@jamesjoelsumpter7710
@jamesjoelsumpter7710 3 жыл бұрын
Just keeps getting better ! To start off my favorite video’s have been the upgrades You’all have been making to the airstream, no doubt You’all have the nicest pull trailer we’ve ever seen, and until this video the two solar videos were my personal favorite, now Shirey’s was the Big trees park and Yosemite along with Glacier NP, this one was over the top with information on the equipment and the absolutely incredible things this system can do for people who do enjoy dry camping. For anyone who is remotely interested in something that will absolutely be a game changer in joys of being “off the grid “ so to speak. It just has a good ring to be able to say that doesn’t it ! Thank You for the information you are a truly gifted sales person! And I say that in the best sense of someone who only wishes to inform you of the equipment your interested in purchasing ! We pray You’all have the Happy Trails you deserve... Good By and God Bless All
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks so much for your kind message! I will definitely be talking more about solar in the months to come. Overall we are loving our system. We have had a couple of issues (as mentioned in the video) but it has been a great asset and has enhanced our travels this year. The technology is really exciting. Cheers and God Bless to you also!
@michaelcanto6175
@michaelcanto6175 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sean, We have the 2003 F350 with a 6.0 and want to know more info about the alternator you are choosing. Our truck has two alternators and dual 12v batteries.
@karenpolansky9097
@karenpolansky9097 3 жыл бұрын
As a fulltimer who loves to boondock as much as possible I love my solar and Battleborn batteries. You were wise to keep everything upfront and all together. My system needed to be completely moved around because my inverter was too far away from my batteries. 💵 💵 💵 I’m a little concerned with being plugged in for the most part since Covid hit and I am much more stationary. I noticed my batteries depleting a little more quickly despite having the truck hooked up and driving all day, plus the sun. I have a 2015 F150, so I don’t think I need a new alternator. I’m wondering if my batteries have been spoiled with being constantly plugged in. On the side of schlepping, I sold my heavy generator and bought a Car Generator. Very cool, light system!
@LongLongHoneymoon
@LongLongHoneymoon 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karen, car generator looks great but no one would want to hear our noisy truck idling :D I will give a report on the alternator soon... installing it this week!
@LDhusky
@LDhusky 3 жыл бұрын
You and gone with the wynns are really good at teaching these things
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